BRUTALLY HONEST | Economy Class on Air France's AIRBUS A350-900 from Toronto to Paris CDG!

[@andrewhosfeld]

Not that I don’t like business class/first seat class reviews/experiences but there’s certainly no dearth of them on KZbin. If anything more of these videos about economy class are needed on KZbin since that’s what most people will/would travel.

[@rmramirezc]

It's true.

[@jxnathanmark7661]

Completely agreed

[@sideshow00]

Indeed

[@officialwowow]

So many / 🤣

[@volantee]

I 100% agree, but I also think that first/business class reviews are entertains for me. Not that economy class reviews are boring, though.

[@AussieAvgeek98]

I flew on this exact same route in December except from Paris to Toronto, honestly I found the whole experience rather pleasant and significantly better than say Lufthansa or KLM.

[@stevens1041]

Appreciate that comment. Will choose Air France.

[@8_planes]

Ngl Air France was ok the seat was fine but the food I got it at practically 5 hours in the flight and before that I only had a small breakfast no lunch and that was the only hot meal service and I didn’t even get chicken I had the other option which I forgot but that killed the trip I mean I think there’s room to improve

[@malinithirumurugananthan1592]

This is the best KZbin channel to watch on a Friday morning

[@thomast6851]

Or afternoon i suppose......

[@Andrew-Wong]

Why is not every friday night?🤔🤔 Maybe I think is time reversal!

[@phantomjosh2148]

It’s Saturday morning 12:59 am so technically Friday night for me

[@jetaddicted]

A few precisions that may answer some questions: The USB port will maintain the charge but not actually charge power, sadly, so this absence of a power outlet is indeed a problem, the good news is that the Y cabin is currently being refitted; AF normally does have a pre dinner drinks service, for any flight taking off before 10pm, with salty snacks, but this has been removed during COVID and is soon to be reintroduced, in addition to tea and coffee AF also provides a VERY GOOD hot choc, you can also have cappuccinos or camomille and verbena. Thanks for your honest report!

[@samsobkov5553]

@jetaddicted going in Feb '23, now i cannot WAIT for the hot chocolate omg hahaha

[@saheel1850]

I've been on AF's A350 several times and I'm pretty sure they all had power outlets

[@etiennesebag4087]

Great Video as always! However, the "coat-hook" isn't meant to be a coat hook actually, it's a thing to hang the provided headphones they give so that they don't get lost somewhere deep in the seatback pocket when you sleep.

[@monicamccarthy3932]

Excellent review. Yes, CDG is very frustrating, always long lines. Unbelievable that they don't have charging ports on the economy seats. That's unacceptable in today's world.

[@Andrew-Wong]

When I saw this Air France A350-900, I saw the area super comfortable, keep it up @Simply Aviation.

[@louiscy]

Air France's economy meal was the best 20-30 years ago, two rounds of cocktails before dinner was a norm. Champagne through out the whole flight even in economy class, the meal tray was so big, it covered the whole folding table. There was appetizer/salad/main/fruit or desert/cheese and warm baguette, not those tiny pieces of pigeon feed in this video. Those were the days. Thanks for refreshing my memories of Air France.

[@bankerdave888]

I flew Air France in 2018 from Paris to LAX on their A380. Even though the plane was older at the time, but the service was very good and the food was excellent. They even had ice cream for snacks!

[@herrhornbuckele5227]

I flew FRA-CDG-SIN on Air France two weeks ago and SIN-AMS-STR on the way back with KLM. I agree with 99% of what you said, the food was great, presentation was awesome, cabin product was fairly well thought through and all in all it was a pleasant experience but there was that something missing that makes a good flight great. Most importantly for me I'd have liked the crew be more attentive (like offer more than only one drink service aside from the meals on 13 hrs of flying), I really hope that's just a COVID thing because now that Lufthansa slashed their service AFKLM looks like my most likely replacement for a Full Service Carrier.

[@jetaddicted]

It is indeed a COVID thing, the service is now almost back to normal, with water passages, and a free service soft drinks bar at the galley. Wine and Champagne also remain free. Regards from an AF cabin crew 😄🤚

[@HarryPotter-pl2xu]

@@jetaddicted Hey i have a question, for the self-service snack bar, can we get the snacks anytime we want?

[@Fff-tz5ik]

Yeah never enough to drink, I always ask for water in addition to the drink so a bit better

[@ranch1112]

Is CDG - SIN a 15 hour flight?

[@herrhornbuckele5227]

@@ranch1112 13 hours as written above

[@puddin6260]

I have been flying with Air France since I was a child, and I have experience it for like 6 years and it’s honestly such an amazing airline I love it

[@Victoriousaustrohungary8743]

I flew Air France long time ago which was a very good flight.

[@kozk6013]

I began to like this guy’s review. It is to the point and efficient. Thank you for the great work!

[@gogabego]

Great video. Same thoughts here. Would be great to fly AF more - and economy service looks very good. But since it means dealing with CDG, most of the time I'll take another airline. Some have said this is due to Covid-era staff shortages but sorry to say, CDG has always been a nightmare to transit through for years. Under-staffing immigration is the norm, and seems almost intentional. And the fact that most or all of the e-gates are broken every time you pass through there says a lot about the operation they're running there. I'd say "hopefully they get their act together" but I know they never will 😂

[@marcevrad9896]

Agreed about CDG's nightmare passport control between 2E and the rest: even I, being French, try to take longer layovers in order to avoid a missed flight ! I usually do YUL-CDG-MRS with Air France, unless there's a direct YUL-MRS flight with Air Transat !

[@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD]

Air France has improved so much recently. Like you it's an airline that makes me very enthusiastic to fly with, while just five years ago I would be indifferent. The lack of power outlet is a huge disadvantage I agree. And as for CDG, while it is true that its border control is truly awful sometimes, I feel a lot of people are unfair. Apart from Terminal 1 maybe, I find it alright, or even an enjoyable experience for Terminals 2F and 2E (K, L, M). Can't wait to try their A350s!!

[@joebloggs7425]

Terminal 1 is currently closed. Possibly renovating?

[@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD]

@@joebloggs7425 Yes it is under renovation at the moment, it should start reopening by the end of the year

[@ehrenkylo837]

I flew Air france on a 11 hour flight to Cancun. They offered a Snack Service, but the french touch was increadible

[@jxnathanmark7661]

I love that Air France jump right into the service. I think more airlines should do it. Get the service out the way and everyone can relax. The breakfast bag was the cutest thing.

[@thomast6851]

I'd like to inform you: When I flew Air France on their A350 from SCL to CDG, they had a sandwich with melted cheese and tomato, and it was HOT. Probably because it the flight to around 12-14 hours, but not all have cold snack boxes. Anyway, ive been waiting for this video for almost half a year and its finally here! Im looking forward to next week's video already!

[@tripple7W]

Hey, on long hauls, meals are cooked by local food chains. The food is always better when you leave from Paris ! (no offence)

[@thomast6851]

@@tripple7W I know, but I didnt say it was bad, im saying it was nice and hot, and not cold like in the tripreport. And it was from the breakfast box before landing, so they had a hot meal earlier.

[@thomaskettunen3699]

CDG is as close as you can get to hell on earth... I will avoid AF in the future because of CDG and their poor catering on intra-european flights (when compared to KLM)

[@thewalfly]

For my opinion, a snack service prior the main meal service on a night flight is not necessary, considering that most of the passengers would like to get a quick meal service and then a couple of hours of sleep. I flew with Emirates from Hamburg to Dubai and they handeled it that way, serving the salty snack around two hours before landing

[@joebloggs7425]

thewalfly - I suspect people don't mean a 'snack'' service prior to the main meal but a drinks service with a small bag of nuts before the main meal. Most companies do this, and Air France used to when we've flown with them before.

[@robbiemorrison7085]

Flew out of of Lyon Saint Euxpiery recently, had a very similar experience when leaving the airport back to london, only had 2 passport control officers, literally everyone was late before boarding the plane which they kept back luckily

[@Nicolaseab19]

Great video! It's quite surprising that they didn't go for the universal power outlet though I'm assuming most people simply recharge their phone with USB port and won't mind. For CDG, while the jetbridge is unlucky, the customs is infuriating. I'm French and go through CDG and Orly customs a lot, and systematically the egates are not open, and they put minimum staff to control passports. Even in T2B which has been newly refurbished, some of the gates were marked as "out of order", how does that happen when they have never been "in order" and used in the first place? ... According to Air France and Aéroports de Paris the blame is on the interior ministry which I wouldn't be surprised about. Imo it's just the most annoying single thing that happens every time and gets everyone mad.

[@b.w.9244]

We flew Air France from Boston to CDG in May 2023. Heinous. When guy in front of me reclined, I couldnt even itch my ankle or get anything from bag without rolling out into aisle first. Upgraded to United business class returning from Nice. Super excellent!

[@romaindappe4139]

We'll be on the 350-900 from Singapore to Paris next week with 2 toddlers and I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as that

[@vigodrakken7916]

Air France is the 1st Airline I check.whenever I flew to Europe from LAX, their food is usually better than US carriers, flight attendants are not bubbly or look excited, but never rude to me. CDG is a pain but ive gotten used to it.

[@marioweinhold]

Thx for this again awesome brutally honest trip report. What a nice aircraft. Only one thing I am not convinced of totally is the breakfast bag: in terms of size of the breadroll and the effect on the environment (so much plastic ... ). Even if the Lufthansa breaktfast might look poor, they at least try reusable boxes! Keep on the good work...

[@Gyle.3559]

The pillow is very catchy

[@zawmyonaing7471]

from myanmar

[@highflyer3362]

I really like the Economy Product from Air France. Had a good flight with them last year from Paris to Montreal (flightreport on my channel). From the Crew to the Food very good! :)

[@LBFlightSim]

There is staff shortages at a lot of airports in Europe lately. That's the reason they had so little passport control open. Doesn't have to do anything with the airport itself

[@jannebrija9879]

I really just want to voice this out to all the platforms available. . . We booked a flight from Munich to Paris with Air france. . . They had technical problems with their plain so our flight was delayed for 2hrs and they where cannot load our baggage on our plane. . . The only option they gave us was either to fly without our luggage and it will be sent to our hotel the next day or we rebook our flight the next day in hopes that our luggage will come with it. . . We waited for the entire day and our luggage didn’t arrive. . . We wen’t to the airport to claim it personally but they said they can’t release our luggages. . . We are only on vacation in Paris for 4 days, 1 day is already lost while waiting for the luggage. . . And all they can answer is “I’m sorry” and “I understand but we can’t do anything about it”. . . Our whole vacation that we planned for months was ruined and that’s the best they got. . . It really enrages me that they ruined someones vacation and the best answer they got is we can’t do anything about it? Just a side note, it was my first time to experience an airplane do a wrong parking. . .

[@gimus3]

Thank you for helpful information, especially about transfers in CDG! 😉 Video was nice. Frequency of releasing videos perfect, last few months. Have a nice day, guys!

[@mikeflytr]

i flew airfrance in dec 2023, a long-haul 13hr flight, scl-cdg and i was impressed that there was no ammenity kit for economy.

[@vucko3494]

Layovers in Paris are the worst, almost missed a flight home a few years ago mainly because we had no idea where we going and also because our inbound was delayed. It was the first time that we ever had to run to a gate but somehow we made the flight.

[@pranavjain1212]

Including the review about the airports passport control was the dealbreaker for me! Thank you so much for this review! IT ACTUALLY HELPED❤

[@a-man233]

Nice review. I wish you gave your opinion on the comfort (or discomfort) of your seat. Did you find it narrow or too hard or too soft? Was the recline sufficient? If the person in front of you reclined, was there still adequate room for you without feeling trapped? Also what was the quality of the service of the flight attendants? These additional commentaries would make this a great review! Thank you!

[@dernieredanse.590]

la meilleure securite de moi 🎶🎶🎵🎵j'aime cette compagnie d'avion

[@puddin6260]

Hi, i fly with airfrance a lot, so i will answer to your questions if youre still curious. The seats are comfortable, but even for me that im a quite petite person ( 1.62 cm and 56 kg) i found them a bit narrow and that makes it a bit hard to go to the bathroom if youre in a window or middle seat, because there isnt a lot of space between your legs(still enough to not touch eachother), but still okay. I dont like reclining my seat, but the time i tried it, its efficient and easy to do, not like in other planes when its a bit harder, they also recline kind of a lot, thankfully you can move your screen so that you can still watch comfortably, and there is enough space to stand up and go to the bathroom for example if your an average sized person. Lastly, i find the flight attendants to be incredibly nice, great service, they can even give you a chat if they find you distressed for like turbulence or other things (they did it to me), and i have only heard great comments about them. Overall the seats are comfortable and the service is great, 10/10.

[@094340]

That's not a coat holder on the screen, it's a holder for your headphones when they are not in use. Duh.

[@samim9029]

Air France, the worst air company ever , very rude personal , bad service. Never I will use it again even for free .

[@shanegermany5803]

I can understand your complaint about universal outlets as I think Virgin have done the same in Eco in thier A350s and as you’ve say, people do actually work whilst flying, as for the complaints about the food, it’s only a 7hr or so flight and so I can think a lot people just want to get some sleep before arrival in Paris and you can only do so much in that relative short time. I’m afraid French never been most organised, surprised more people didn’t complain.

[@lrg3834]

Nice to see that some legacy European airlines still care about their passenger experience. It's unfortunate there was no universal power outlet on this aircraft. Also, given the high quality snacks offered throughout the flight, the initial cold snack/drink omission before the mail meal is hardly a deal breaker. That said, really enjoyed your presentation. Thanks.

[@رياضياتانجلش]

france to niamey 2021

[@lucassuar5106]

Historically transfer in CDG are super long, not efficient in passport controls at all, not just now, pre-pandemic was exactly the same. Good airline bad airport. Thanks for Your nice videos!

[@moviewatcher1239]

I've never flown on Air France before but I would love to try it out someday when I do I'm going to sit in business class

[@suzowan_edit5295]

Bonjour, i'm french thank you so much for this video on our national company !!!

[@clems33fr]

No Universal power !!! OMG and I Can Say CDG and ORY airport are both hawful but the 2E terminal of air France in CDG look modern and nice

[@siyanaganeva8236]

Best video ever, continue doing other videos! 😊

[@phillipmaguire4671]

Quite a good standard overall, but still have some room for improvement. They still fall a bit short compared to some Middle Eastern and Asian carriers for the same flight duration. Having no universal power port is unforgivable on a long-haul flight in this day and age. The pillow cushion covers very nice. Some nice french touches. Overall, I would be happy with the service on this flight.

[@LiverpoolFan24]

Traveled this route in 2011 and 2015. changed a lot it seems

[@gaviota6663]

Hi, great video! I am curious to know if the snack bar for economy class at the back still provides free champagne? I travelled with them on a 13 hour flight (pre pandemic) and was very pleasantly surprised to note that they did. ;)

[@top5betterfact477]

Is this your first time talking ? Wow love it.

[@lorinreid1019]

Thats not a coat hook fyi, its to hang your earphone cord out of the way if youre stepping out to use the restroom or just moving them out of the way..

[@Raisunrelbed]

Wow David So cool! I love All Airlines I hope keep safe From COVID-19!

[@SirAranLuis]

'Yes, I'm looking at you Lufthansa.' 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@beefbrisket168]

this gives me decent idea on what to expect on a flight I will be taking later this year with AF's newest Canadian Destination the CDG.

[@RigoStar]

8:40 Are you kidding me? 😩 Very generic Canadian food items you find in a school cafeteria. I wish they were actually French snacks..

[@HopperLou]

I flew 2 weeks ago through CDG and passport control was still a mess. More than 1 hour to go through it to get the next connection flight. Take enough time when buying the tickets.

[@PlaneGeekTravels]

Will be taking this same flight in 2 weeks! So excited.

[@davidlazarus67]

The flight experience was let down by the transit experience.

[@Amanda-mandi]

I fly transatlantic about two times a year to visit my Husband's family in Morocco from Toronto or Montreal. I am 176 cm and a size 12 women, mostly carrying my weight in my bum so you if you know then you know for planes, but I tend to fit fine in all the seats, just Air France is better. Honestly, compared to Air Portugal, Air Canada and Royal Air Maroc, I find that Air France is the best experience for this route. I fly standard Economy. Overall the flights from Air France are on average 200$ CAD more compared to the other three airlines with the same destination, but the food and comfort and costumer service is by far worth it. The seats are way more comfier on the bum. The only other comparable with seats are Air Canada, and unfortunately TAP Air Portugal flights are light sitting on cardboard for 7 hours, but it's hard to refuse TAP with all their wonderful quick connecting flights and cheap costs. As for leg room and seat size, they say standard but for some reason there is more leg room and the seats are wider, and my bum fits comfortably in the seat without touching the person next too see, unless its another round bottom women and in that case we equally do not mind the mutual cushion. :) The seats also go recline further and you don't seem to be impeding too much space on the person behind you when you do because of their design. It is easier to get a hold of costumer service for AIR FRANCE and they have an amazing messaging system that sends you real people to communicate to via Facebook messenger. They are always so nice and polite when communicating with you. I generally sleep on most of my flights listening to some Moroccan music, so the lack of a plug does not bother me. I agree Air France is the way to go for long haul flights and prefer it even at the slightly average higher costs. I am leaving again on February 19th 2024 with layover in Pairs en route to Rabat, Morocco. So wish me luck for another pleasant experience!

[@Cambodianavgreeks]

Can fly from Singapore to Cambodia pls

[@aldinramadani5852]

How about a trip report from pristina to Paris cdg And another one from Budapest to skopje

[@rabinwatuwa8527]

Love your video ❤

[@Alek2005]

Классный самолёт Airbus A350-900. авиакомпания Аэрофлот Airbus A350-900 с ноября 2019 года, начала работы эксплуатации. Приветствую из России 🇷🇺

[@duaneowens7777]

Great video. Are they strict with the checked bag and carry on weight. Would they allow 1-2kg over. How was the customer service?

[@fabriziom]

CDG is a nightmare for border control. I spent 1h10 queuing on a Saturday morning with only 2 lines out of 5 open for parafe system. They should go to Heathrow and take example.... Probably 40 lines all open, super easy and fast.... CDG is bad for Europe. However, if you travel to the US, it's quite short vs border control in the US....

[@chromebomb]

You guys are killing it with content as aways!!! Best av channel on YT!!!

[@Cervarius_K]

Would love to see a more recent Brutally Honest on Air Canada's economy class! Absolutely love your content!

[@shakilansari6957]

3rd

[@mini-land]

6:09 piece of c h e e s e

[@eclectic_musafir]

I flew AF Economy from CDG-MIA last month on the 777. I stayed at the Hilton CDG hotel, so I only had two stops on the transit train to check in for my flight. I was already at the airport, checked in through the app, and it still took nearly TWO hours from bag drop to the gate, and arrived just as they were boarding Group 3. They are seriously short-staffed at the customs and security screening checkpoints, and didn't seem to be in much of a hurry to process passengers. I would *STRONGLY* recommend that you allow at least 2.5 hours curbside-boarding if you don't plan on going to a lounge, and even more than that otherwise. This review pretty much summarizes the same experience on the 777, except that we had the power ports. I didn't use them as the USB plugs were sufficient, but they were there. This was my first trip flying AF (going and coming), and it made me a fan of the airline. A lot more character and panache than US airlines, and the food quality/presentation is actually something to appreciate.

[@onlyonegirl34]

How long was your flight? I am considering this airline to fly to maldives economy one way and I wanted to be comfortable

[@ashishpoonia4047]

I wouldn’t agree to their selection of movies cuz it is really shitty. There wasn’t anything worth watching. But I did love the camera view and live map.

[@bboyjunyor]

Air France is OK and tahnk you for your review! I do agree on the cr***y CDG service. I can use sky priority and the border control had 1 agent for the entire Skypriority queue but 3 and then 5 for the normal queue. I noticed that when I got closer to it. When I asked why it works like that the personnel guiding us said it's a strike but when I pointed out the obvious (why only 1 for priority and 3-5 for normal queue when the priority queue was getting as big as the normal queue) and other passengers were waiting for this answer or at least some action.. she just pretended she didn't hear us and walked away! Thank you, Air France and CDG and continous French strikes! Only Schiphol - here we come from now on! Keep up the good job!

[@RealBigheadshot]

Would you land at ORLY ?

[@mayankambasana1052]

Thank you for this video :)

[@yohiengelsberg]

Love KLM and Air France ❤

[@jeboyjay2608]

10 July Im flying from Amsterdam to Paris with klm Boeing 737 and from Paris with airfrance to Lagos Nigeria with the a350

[@TripReportaviation]

Surprisingly, AF don’t have power outlets on their new A350-900s while manh airlines decided to do so one their new aircrafts… Airport experience at Cdg at that time was confusing

[@Suursaadik]

Nice video! 👌

[@Shyobe]

I flew on one of air Frances first A350 in 2021 I will never forger this flight. 10/10 I deffinetly recomend

[@Pajtim2023]

Turkish airlines breakfast food the best in europe economy class You You get scrambled eggs with mushrooms and cheese and fresh oven roll,and sweets 😊

[@kollegahsterin]

*How are you supposed to eat that breakfast box? No plate, no cutlery??? Just dump the bread into the tiny jam container I guess? I rather have Lufthansa's ready to eat sandwich than mess around with a fancy packaged but unedible breakfast box.*

[@kennethchongweithart7905]

The cutlery was in the little orange pouch...it was the first thing he took out...

[@royalnrt7413]

Come for Biman Bangladesh Airlines Boeing 787-9

[@donr.wetter186]

Nothing worse than wooden cutlery. I’m all for avoiding plastic but please stop this wood trend. Just use real metal cutlery. It’s so much nicer

[@rakshith1994]

The audio is more louder on right AirPod than left one. It’s irritating. Could you please check with the audio? Thanks

[@hanj31]

Air France also serves champagne in economy class which would be an expectation exceeded

[@toronrocarao4206]

As if "The honest review" was not enough. I do not get the point why brutally. Sounds theatrical.

[@GS345650]

No way that's a breakfast box. A single piece of bread!?!?!? That's a joke

[@mikeflytr]

2:46 thats the headphone holder for when you go to the bathroom or when you are eating btw

[@jerwinpaula.batiles9841]

Hey David I thought your flight was Tahiti to Paris

[@thomasconway95]

Are the self-service snacks free? I have never flown transatlantic before

[@HelloOnepiece]

Good to know im not the only one who basically has PTSD from CDG, that airport is a nightmare for transferring

[@shilchanel4195]

Saya suka Naik Pesawat Air France Airbus A350-900 Terbang dari Paris CDG ke Toronto YYZ.

[@DimitryDeFacto]

Air France will offer you only stealing of you baggage & stupid service.

[@wl03bu]

I have ridden over night and prefer they give me the food as fast as possible so I can sleep. I like that they skip the drink cart.

[@kidsassistant5657]

I would like to see so much Toronto

[@jefdepijper4550]

Nothing special in economy, catering seems poor, no aperitif or digestif, seating is bad too ...

[@sophiawei4073]

Thank you for the video! Australia border finally opened this year I am looking forward to fly again soon. With the help yourself snack bar while its wonderful idea, I wonder isn't it bit contradiction with the covid rules ( ie as u mention no inflight magazine and duty free booklet ) but I gotta say the food looks amazing. The border control wonder if it's again because of covid isolation causing staff shortage? My Partner flew out of Sydney this morning and coincide with Easter school holiday and short staff he said the line was 1km long for the xray security and so many ppl miss their flights.

[@thedpstraveller]

That Air France meal looked so good ahaha

[@emilePadja]

Great video. Thanks for sharing. What were you seat?