Simulated Reality and Misogyny: An Analysis of Don't Worry Darling

[@kayleegunderson1994]

I totally agree about the ending, it sort of felt like an easy way out. Like when you write a story in elementary school and you don't know how to end it so you just say "it was all a dream" at the end

[@jaredbessette6751]

This is exactly how I felt because the ending is quite literally the “and then I woke up” cliché

[@ms.x1669]

🤣 So perfect

[@iNDERUdmg]

I'm pretty sure that Jack and Alice weren't actually married in the real world. I believe they were dating and had broken up - they had different last names, and when he showed up to kidnap her he came with flowers - as if they hadn't seen each other for a while and he was trying to get back together. Not to mention the whole "chosen wife, preexisting relationship - yes" had some extremely creepy implications - that probably most of the other "wives" were just kidnapped by their incel stalkers. The way Violet's husband (I think his name was Bill) reacted at the end reminded me of a spoilt child that had his toy taken away. Coupled with the fact that Violet constantly looked like "a deer in headlights" (they even said so in the movie) makes me believe they didn't have a preexisting relationship and she was just kidnapped...

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Lol incel stalkers really why is This a thing in this film?? Thats cringe & not interesting Incels are the most beta & Pathetic feminine men To ever exist.

[@the.blue.raven7777]

In the alternative original ending, they were married, even divorced

[@R.I.P.truelove]

I wouldn’t say the meaning of the movie is “misogyny bad”, but rather an analysis of misogyny with some nuanced takes. I think that it is a detailed observation of the mind control within the patriarchy and the real world sanism that women dealt with as a result. This how it really was.. a man decided she was making things up, a man decided that what she saw wasn’t real… and then treated her for insanity as just another way to gaslight her. This film is a super realistic take on misogyny, mind control, gaslighting and sanism when it comes to dialogue… it echoed the real world so chillingly because I’ve heard these things all my life, the common phrases that gaslight woman that are so pervasive to the point that it’s normalized.. especially when sterotypes are laid over her every time she tries to confront something. This movie shows what it’s like to be a woman in a relationship with a man who is a misogynist and simultaneously in a social environment that is influenced by misogyny.. it’s so alienating emotionally.

[@cheryl5667]

I felt that the B&W dancers were intended to represent maniacal perfection, grace and synchronicity that women and girls are expected to display at all costs that end up driving us mad, ironically. I enjoyed it because I felt it was a grounding, overall commentary about men's desire to subjugate us to rigid or idyllic forms of femininity that will always exist (like the guys from the Daily Wire and manosphere in general), especially where women don't have the freedom to tell the truth.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

The movie was pretty much Women good men bad Theres no nuance or Anything & all the men Are painted as the same In reality thats far ftom True most men dont want To subjugate women thats For Psychopaths & fetishists.

[@slytherinlady3907]

i also loved how almost all the women in the movie never spoke up, even the ones who knew, because it’s why we still have the patriarchy and all, we are billions of women, but we love to silence each other and uphold this system because we are convinced that nothing is wrong. women around the world are still assaulted and even killed with no laws to protect them, and even in my country in the us there are still laws made against women, even very recently. and the social suppression of women will never end no matter how hard we try. even the girl who recommended me this movie, the girl who watched it with me and considers it her favorite subconsciously defends the actions of men who don’t deserve forgiveness for what they do to girls. even i, while writing this comment, noticed that i was writing it in a way that would be inoffensive and vague so as to not be deemed “hysterical,” as were the women in this movie. i really liked this movie.

[@cheryl5667]

@@slytherinlady3907 yeah which is why I don't even blame women who don't speak up. It's not their fault ultimately and they know that they will just be punished so it's pointless anyway

[@cheryl5667]

@@slytherinlady3907 PS I'm Slytherin too! lol. since Tom Felton was the first to speak up for JK :)

[@slytherinlady3907]

@@cheryl5667 nice but i dont fw jk rowling too much 😔

[@kendramckay2225]

Did Jack really do it to make Alice happy though? I took it as him gaslighting her by saying that right before she killed him. He trapped her and took away all of her autonomy after she had been supporting both of them while he was jobless and doing nothing around the house! At least that’s how I interpreted it. I don’t mean to come off as rude and I hope it doesn’t sound like that!

[@mimsmims5882]

I think it was his justification why it was acceptable to make that choice without Alices knowledge. I think it's difficult to say if he really believed that she would be happier in the Project or if he's evil and didn't care about her happiness and just says it to her to gaslight/manipulate her. And I feel like the movie did a poor job showing that she was less happy in the simulation idk

[@Chinni_C888]

I agree, he wanted to be a provider but was too weak to do it in reality so his insecurity drove him to do this. That is not driven by love, taking away autonomy of a perfectly healthy capable person is never made out of love. Alice said it herself that she loved her job.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@Chinni_C888 Thats dumb, being insecure Isnt a excuse to do that sh*t His podcast was telling him To be better, he could of Done that the dead is a shitty character just Lame.

[@Chinni_C888]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 It's not an excuse, it is a reason.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@Chinni_C888 How is that a reason & why Is jack even the way he is?? Dudes not a character hes a caricature set up to be a loser compared to alice Even his pocast is nonsensical Because its just frank as Jordan peterson this movie Is lame.

[@Chinni_C888]

The most infuriating part about the movie was when Jack acted like he did a favour for Alice by robbing her of reality and choice. Oh and how Frank ridicules her for seeing through the BS but being 'challenging' enough or whatever he wanted from her.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Thats because jack is a bad Character he has no reason To do these thinvs & does It because a podcast told Him too?? Utter nonsense What makes this rheoteric More infuriating is that Frank is supposed to be Jordan peterson.

[@slawbrina]

I ALSO interpreted the men as working for victory OUTSIDE of the simulation, like they are working some horrible job for Frank. You're the first commentary video I've found who has called that out.

[@chrissyb6647]

in the movie they mentioned how that new husband had been recruited by one of the men, so i think the implication is that when the men leave the simulation for the day they go out into the world to recruit men to join the victory project

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​​@@chrissyb6647 How come nobody found Out about it or tried to stop It?? Is this movie saying All the men are in on it??

[@Ribbitplease]

In the movie, Jack says so himself where he tells Alice "I work so hard so I can give this to you. I have to leave this place, you don’t! " So it’s pretty obvious they pay to put their chosen wives and themselves in the simulation. Their jobs as either working for frank or a normal job in real life.

[@Ribbitplease]

@@elongatedmanforever1252yes, its implied obviously

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@Ribbitplease That's why this movie is just bad and has nothing to say about Men then, "muh men bad".

[@lollydolly4590]

You were right, covering this movie would drive traffic to your channel, and I’m glad I was driven here 😂

[@grantgilbert2822]

There were a few things I liked about this movie. The cinematography and some of the performances, particularly Pugh, were outstanding. The twist kinda ruined all the good will I had for it though.

[@MakedaPhillips]

Good video! Would like to clarify some things. The black and white dancers are the loading screen into the game. When the men go to work, they leave the simulation to go into the real work to work (maybe for Frank, maybe just their own jobs) and return for a few hours later.

[@sunrise8811]

Keep going, we need more quality film analysis on KZbin!

[@aelfwynn6562]

Great analysis! And I love your small moments of humour!

[@jerpica.d6735]

The idealization of the 1950s society where women are dominated by men has influenced modern day incel communities, alpha males and politics. Holy shit man that blew me away, I’m floored by that connection. You are very succinct with your words, I’m super impressed. Keep it up, I love this.

[@heathergittens3223]

Yes. One example is MAGA.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Are you joking?

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@heathergittens3223 Dude women vote for Trump too.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Well this movie does nothing But vilify the 1950's society & men making them all incels In this movie.

[@katikyte]

I'm not the smartest critic, but I felt like this film raised more questions than it answered. Any sort of medium should make one think (at least to a certain degree), but it feels like some things were introduced or even established only to be brushed over. It left me thinking …is that all? I had fun but i’m not sure if it was worth watching in the cinema anddd It was predictable.. “Not everything is what it seems” with undertones of “men are bad” As a simple viewer, it was fun for a movie, but it could have easily served as a long episode in some kind of show.

[@kaylawilloughby8562]

Man this video is absolutely brilliant.

[@kaylawilloughby8562]

Also I know Shia is an absolute piece of shit but man he would’ve made that role soooo much better

[@addieadaaddition]

I think the concept of masculinity and simulated reality is a really interesting one. I’d be really interested to see a video that focuses more on comparing how different films interact with those two concepts.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Too bad it vilifies it.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It would be empty because The characters have no Depth & no intrigue.

[@georgeserrano1805]

I think that what the writing got wrong with its comparisons with the "real world" in the movie and the fantasy world and the actual real world is that the influencers that Frank is supposed to be modeled off of are usually marketing themselves as self-help gurus who preach the message of self-improvement and that yes, the world is unfair, but you cannot change that the only thing you can change is yourself. Even in the movie, the advice that Frank is giving in his podcast is inherently self-motivating but the message and the results (with the men trying to control their women) are inherently different things with conflating messages. Like how does what Frank is saying in the real world even correlate to weak men trying to suppress women? The message is "gain confidence and become a stronger person" not "women are getting stronger therefore you have to control them and not change yourself"

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Its f-menist propaganda that hates men, of course woke f-menists Would see that as evil & wrong The truth is they want men To mistreat women its the Victimology mindset where They gain power by making All women as victims, i swear We should have a film where Men are in a simulation & women control it that Seems more like reality Imo.

[@mick_gl853]

how does this only have 24 views? this great! loved the video. I Went out of town to see this movie already knowing some of the plot but still left the theater confused and upset I spent money and out of town to see it. I was even more disappointed in the movie after see snips of the og screenplay and the movie couldve been. eh I'll give it a second go around when it makes it way into streaming to see if i missed anything.

[@alexatregoning1431]

Amazing video, I feel like you completely covered every fundamental point

[@emilyc9623]

Not you coming up with a better ending than the literal director

[@Nazgolthesilvertongue]

Hey, great video !! I totally get your frustration about making videos (I'm trying too haha).Best of luck! your videos definitely deserve more views, keep them coming.

[@dr0pk1x]

Philosopher King is totally mentally stable, well adjusted and intellectually advanced. Bow to Philosopher King. Bow to him.

[@dr0pk1x]

Ooop, sorry about that. I just slipped into the simulated reality he tries to create for a second. I'm back now though.

[@GizmoMaltese]

So this is basically The Stepford Wives but in a simulated reality? But do stay-at-home wives even exist anymore? Can anyone afford that today?

[@Hippidippimahm]

You’re in my recommended feed! Please don’t stop making videos, I’m subscribed already 👍🏻

[@ciscokid3430]

Cool video, your channel seems really underrated

[@ramirod0895]

Really cool video! I don't know if is a good movie, but it cerntanly kept in my mind for a few days, so if a movie does that, i think is something ha. I was left wanting to see something else after the credits ran. Great analysis!

[@christianaconner6537]

Great video keep making them !!! Wonderfully crafted

[@Elijah-yq8sm]

Keep going this is a great analysis!!!

[@jasmineturgeon]

Do more single movie analysis! I really liked this one!

[@oliveirasingson7592]

I gotta say the director really knows how to promote her movies

[@TheCinematicReviewer]

I didn’t watch Don’t Worry Darling, but this was a very interesting analysis. Nice job!

[@awill3454]

Shia Labeouf had text messages from Olivia Wilde that rebuffs Wilde’s claims that he was fired. Funny how with all the drama that came with the production and promotion of this film, Wilde seemed to be the common denominator in all of it.

[@lgpanessa]

O algorithmic gods please accept my humble sacrifice of one like, one comment, and one subscribe. Edit: thank you for the reddit gold kind stranger

[@aidanserviss]

this man ate my son

[@Rachael87254]

The Stepford Wives was a lot like this except they were almost like robots.

[@eugeruss]

omg what!! I thought this video would have like 400k views, this is so well done!! i really enjoyed it, definitely will keep an eye on you!! also, great choice on the undertale music :)

[@Arthur-ii8yk]

you deserve more views

[@annajansen6945]

I love this video, I think you will grow on KZbin fast :)

[@xzelta]

The castelia city theme coming in omg 😅 totally caught me off guard

[@edzim10]

I think ignoring that the character that is breaking is Black and kinda ignoring this movie is rooted in white feminism is kinda ignoring a huge issue with the film

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It is but f-menism in general Is just a evil ideology.

[@aidanserviss]

Hey everyone! I wanted to address the issue with the volume because numerous people have pointed it out to me. I have made a note that the background music is loud and distracting. I will improve on this when editing my next video, and future videos. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, and I'll do better next time!

[@ShinyGolduck5]

Random Pokemon gen 5 music appeared, agreed with your overall points for this movie.

[@Erlynbebe]

i realize not everyone might've seen it but harry did confess he spit at chris at one of his concerts soon after the premiere for the movie lol so

[@h20ellipsis]

I really liked this, however, I found the background music really loud and distracting - would love to watch more videos by you without the loud background music in the future!

[@hilo6487]

I subscribed. Home that give you motivation!💕 great breakdown.

[@irestar6]

Subscriber 291! YAY! Please keep making more content

[@jujubih9343]

Great analysis, got a subscriber outta me ✌🏽

[@basedbean6348]

You seems like a nice guy. Hopefully a girl talks to you someday.

[@aidanserviss]

good one.

[@wink7907]

That wasn’t necessary, the dude made a great video

[@payt00n]

Did u watch the video?...

[@singing115]

Jordan P is the real G

[@kenz1448]

Great analysis!

[@Rachael87254]

Please keep making videos! Encouragement Encouragement Encouragement!

[@alexatregoning1431]

you should post more analysis videos in popular movies

[@grantgilbert2822]

Was really looking forward to DWD after Booksmart. It did not live up to the hype. If they’d had 40 mins instead of 20 mins to sit with the twist and explore the themes of its message, I think it COULD have been really good. As it was, big disappointment.

[@whyreweherejust2317]

fall fit check!! lookit them there pumpkins

[@meowbarambio1477]

Agree! The ending DOESNT pays off AT ALL

[@AlienZizi]

how do we feel about the movie poster? i think it does a terrible job of representing the movie, it looks like every poster from the after trilogy.

[@stevenecarrier]

How fantastic would Shia have been in that role tho?!

[@imaniamaya1511]

Sophia Stewart actually came up with matrix she actually won a lawsuit against Wachowskis for plagiarism cool video though

[@lolagrace143]

i love this analysis

[@kimmie__kim]

The movie is giving “girlboss feminism “ and “white woman feminism.” None of us like Olivia very much either, so I’m not surprised at the quality of the movie and the way it was received. Loved the video! 🥰

[@user-hl1ct3yh1r]

Yes it can be privileged feminism but it’s still feminism. It’s still a woman expressing how some women suffer. I believe it still requieres our support. Just because it doesn’t describe your struggles doesn’t mean you gotta dismiss it altogether.

[@edzim10]

@@user-hl1ct3yh1r privilege white feminism is still rooted in white supremacy.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@user-hl1ct3yh1r Yes some women suffer But so do men, i wish Media would be progessive For once & stop making It seem like men r superior & are never victims because That attitude is rooted in Sexism that f-menists promote.

[@GizmoMaltese]

Don't forget Dark City!

[@adrianaxoxlol]

They ending was sucky I remember just saying “oh” and then going to do something else

[@lisalavrishcheva1417]

thank you for the video

[@user-hl1ct3yh1r]

At first glance it reminded me of Stepford Wives, it deals with similar concepts but in a more witty way. Still very good and relevant.

[@evylynvega]

The background music is too loud and distracted me from you talking, apart from that... Great video my dude!! 💖

[@natc2940]

Well done video thank you

[@Coolblog2010]

Chill with the music pls

[@bliglum]

Misandry the Movie.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I agree 100%

[@LI-vt2kf]

Loved your video! Haven’t seen the movie yet but I definitely need to see it.. Just a small critique: The music playing in the background while you were speaking was a bit too loud and distracting. For me, as someone who is learning English as a foreign language and has tendencies of adhd, it was so difficult to concentrate on what you were saying. Maybe others have felt this way,too? Still thumbs up for the great analysis 👍🏼

[@the.blue.raven7777]

Wilde took a good idea and make it bad woke

[@Martyred_Artist]

I like movies.

[@sieleeb]

Your take on Jordan Peterson, who is by the way not a philosopher, is totally biased. Did you see and hear his emotional reaction to Olivia Wide‘s perspective of single lonesome men? I don’t support everything he says, but the way Olivia Wilde modeled the creator of “Victory”on him says more about her simplistic perspective than his, which is way more nuanced.

[@victoryv116]

Philosopher king is funny take

[@khazermashkes2316]

I am wondering how/if the movie discusses 1950s racism, or if the simulation is less racist in order to appeal to Black men.

[@MarcusTheJR]

Good point

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Lol wut??

[@1994masja]

Olivia Wilde misunderstand JP, just like the male comments in his lectures, who want to hear the messege “women be dependent on your husbands”. JP thinks that women who are married and have children are on avarage more happy then woman who dont have children. Not that women should not work. His own daughter is financinal independent while being married and has a child. Truman show, the city of women, a special day and sephord wives are much better films with the same messege.

[@maheenm.k1015]

It's funny it's actually single and childless women that are the happiest demographic. Single Women live longer than married women, while married men live longer than single men. Jordan Peterson could not give a fuck what makes the average woman happy, that's why he once said that if women stopped getting married and dating men, men would revolt out of sexual desperation.

[@Tehstampede]

@@maheenm.k1015 care to provide your sources for that metric?

[@gabrielafolabi3327]

For someone who has no respect for people in your reporting, verify that you don't have a ounce of respect for yourself.

[@aidanserviss]

Jokes on you, I never had any respect for myself.

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

White women White men Race is important in this discussion, along with gender

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

This obsession with race & gender is whats created Division for the longest time.

[@MylezNevison]

For a situation to be called misogynistic, there has to be a #hatred and/or contempt for women. Everything your video classifies as misogyny lacks the hatred of women sir... "Miso" means "hate" + "gyn" means woman. l employ that when you use the word please establish the hatred otherwise you are misusing the word & unfairly painting men as women haters of which most aren't hence why women have equal/more human rights. The compelling idea you raised is that of men in the 50s seeing women as objects. HOWEVER you don't point out that women too in the 50s saw (and today still see) men as success objects. Trying to sell objectification as misogyny is a stretch and to only point out the objectification of women by men but leave out the objectification of men buy women is #disingenuous... Ultimately Humans objectify each other, it's not normally a function of hatred but rather a consequence of biological and sociological programming. Male's reptilian brains cannot help but to see women as sexual objects because biologically it is etched in their DNA to spread their seed, so this animalistic objectification is nature not hatred. The a large part of the most male objectification/gaze comes from biological testosterone enduced urges, NOT out hatred of women. Male objectification it's actually lust, desire & admiration NOT contempt. Also women like to be admired by men🤷🏾‍♂️ so it's a none issue especially when women too objectify men... Nevertheless in all the aforementioned objectification, l still see no hatred of women to justifiably qualify that male behaviour as misogyny. That word is getting overused now to bolster feminist talking points and men are evil narratives. The irony though is the misandry inherent in the movie, feminist rhetoric and society today goes by without anyone calling it out. What is the female equivalent of incels that society calls out with disdain? There is none, because women are a protected vlass but incels(men) are not and it's okay to use hateful language towards incels... Case and point: here we have a KZbinr reading misogyny where there is none in a world where women like Olivia Wilde are free to make feminist movies with female stars killing men and whispering "its their turn" to tun things... all whilst simultaneously sleeping with their younger male co-stars of said movie about patriarchy... What misogynistic patriarchy would allow a woman that much room to paint men as evil? NONE. What woman in the middle east can make such a movie as this and live to see the next day? None... Modern 1st world feminists and their supporters who yell misogyny are so privileged they abuse their platforms by creating boogie men where there are none whilst women without a voice in the middle east and third world watch western women squander their privilege on virtue signalling and male bashing. But what do l know right, l'm just some evil patriarchal man on the internet😂. Anyway time will reveal the truth.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I agree this movie is ironically The one pushimg hate, also Vilifing men & incels imo Is not gonna change anything The male bashing has to Stop its making society Worse.

[@maxdelossantos5533]

Jack wasn't mysgonist at all

[@lilchaos9212]

What? He was very misogynistic. He took his well-educated, accomplished girlfriend who enjoyed and worked hard to be a successful surgeon and made her a housewife because he wanted to be the breadwinner. He claims it was because HE thought she was unhappy, but never considered giving her the option, taking away her free will and making her into what he wanted. He wanted control over her and to be the dominant, breadwinner to a doting housewife and took her life from her.

[@maxdelossantos5533]

@@lilchaos9212 well frank was and his wife was the villain and jack wanted something better for his wife and their life out the dark depressed real world that they were in

[@steamyvegetables1445]

@@maxdelossantos5533 He didn't considered his wife's feelings, taking away his wife's free will. Mans was just insecure of his surgeon wife, and listening to Frank's Alpha Man podcast.

[@itsmainelyyou5541]

Oh, he was one of the worst kinds. The insidious weakling. He was a fear driven, spoiled, jealous man who wanted to hide rather than expend a modicum of effort. He stewed in hubris instead of introspection. Too afraid to ask the question and too afraid to accept the answer.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@steamyvegetables1445 Male vilification at its finest I hate the way they wrote His character, inept & weak to make alice Look superoor its Disgusting.

[@sam_aws8748]

great video!!! gained a sub (:

[@hairscrunchieltd]

i still find it really weird how easy people pile on jordan peterson. wilde constantly mentioned that the pine's character was based on him because of his "king of incels" status which is not the case? jordan peterson has been very openly outspoken against incels. he's not wrong for calling out wilde as a bully for piling on him. like fine if you don't like it but it doesn't sound like you actually know him, it just sounds like you hate him and think yourself above him because of hearsay in social media. also pardon if i didn't talk about the movie. i found it boring

[@reaceness]

Sorry, this is such a bulls**t analysis. Jack didn't do it for Alice, he did it for himself.

[@kat8559]

The fact that you think the movie is okay is bad enough, but what you wrote about feminism needed some serious tightening up. Misogyny didnt "work its way" into politics, politics was always misogynistic. WOMEN worked their way into POLITICS, which has been undermined by the backlash against us doing so.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

By politics being misogynistic Dont you mean f-menism itself?? because that is a Political ideology thats Rooted in the backwards Thinking that women can Only be victims.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Thats bs a lot of politics actually are made for & To push for women getting Special treatment & priveledges & to be at The benefit of women At the expense of men.

[@travisbaggett6645]

I’m disappointed to say that your analysis of the sexism women faced in the 1950s is incredibly superficial. You failed to provide even a cursory look at the systemic inequalities that women faced, which in the decades since the federal government has continued to take steps through administrative and legislative action to remedy.

[@user-hl1ct3yh1r]

Go make your own video then. Seriously, he’s talking about the lore of this movie in particular not of the entire feminism movement in general.

[@AlbertoSteinigeweg]

I have to give you a comment because Jordan Peterson is a much more intelligent person than you are and please speak but be respectful .Y our Ironie is something that no one needs . You enjoy making videos like this and i can tell i dont like your video because there are untrue things that you have said.