Since We Have AI Are Teachers Obsolete?

Do we still need teachers if we have AI that can teach us and help us learn anything? Are teachers now obsolete since OpenAI, Microsoft Copilot, and Google Gemini keep improving so rapidly? I look into this issue and give you some important things to consider.
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[@sovorel-EDU]

I am very interested in everyone's thoughts about this issue. Please comment and be sure to express why you feel that way about teachers, professors, or any other type of instructor. All the books I used for this video are available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/stores/author/B06XG2TLKL/allbooks

[@middle-agedmacdonald2965]

Thank you for the video, I have no idea how you got in my feed, but thanks. Now for the part where I have to be a jerk and argue. As a misfit, who has low emotional intelligence 49, M. I just don't see it that way at all. I do see classrooms staying, and social interactions maybe guided by counselor type people educated more in social interaction, than knowledge based education if that makes sense. I was very shy, and was embarrassed to ask questions growing up, and I'd guess that didn't help me any. If I had an a.i. teacher/life coach/buddy that I could ask anything 24/7, that would just be really ideal for someone like me. Ideally it would be ONE a.i. teacher from birth until death, but we seem to be a ways from that. We're certainly capable of having 24/7 a.i. with distinct personalities (as seen by the recent a.i. voice demo) and is capable of matching emotions based on how you sound and look. That's now. Open a.i. is way beyond that in house, so who knows where we really are. Oh that's why you came up in my feed. I confess I watch a lot of a.i. Born and raised in Silicon Valley for 35 years. Now I live in UT,I grow a garden, raise chickens for eggs, and rabbits for meat. I wasn't smart enough to live in Silicon Valley. blah, blah, blah. Thanks again. I had a.i. rewrite the poem "First They Came" in the style of a.i. being the one who came. They're both really sad.

[@sovorel-EDU]

Hi Middle-agedmacdonald2965. Thank your for your insightful comments. It totally understand where you are coming from. I just don't see it as an all or nothing. I think a combined approach will occur. We need good teachers that can help to develop all students, even shy students. But that takes a good teacher who is much more than just a subject matter expert. I really like your idea of being able to also have 24/7 AI teacher/life-coach/buddy. I think this would be great and would enhanced even more if they also had some educational experience in a class with other students in many different learning situations. I think a mixture would be best. I've only been to Utah once, to Salt Lake City. I really liked it there (I was there for an 82nd Airborne Convention). I found the city quite beautiful and friendly. I use to have a little ranch with chickens and a big garden too, now I live in a big city. I miss the quiet. Please share the poem as well. - and share your thoughts on it.

[@commentarytalk1446]

The classroom system is a poor environment for learning in many schools for many reasons. It should be stated first of all because it is very broad but the single item that is constant is 1 -> Many teaching which is borderline lecturing which is very poor quality teaching compared to say 1-on-1 direct tuition. Secondly the curriculum is a very poor fit for many/most children being too heavily academic information heavy only. Those are 2 very clear places to start: Classroom and Curriculum. AI will be an enormous benefit in moving beyond these limitations.

[@sovorel-EDU]

Yes, I also think there are a multiple of areas for improvement. one on one direct instruction is very powerful and beneficial at times to really help students learn. I think there are many ways that AI can be strategically used to enhance instruction. It is a delicate balance that needs to be worked on so that the teachers at all levels can learn to work with the AI to make the best educational experience for both students and instructors.

[@lionshearthealth5235]

I don't think teachers will be obsolete. I do see, though, a huge need for global high-level education and a mismatch to the cost it would entail to have that many high-level teachers teach every single person in the world. I know many people would be averse to this, but I have no problem with a universal education platform that is done by AI allowing K-12 college and continuous adult learning all through robust AI, always being updated as AI continues to update itself, available to the entire world. And then each level of progression requires going to an actual high-level testing center. Just like if you CLEP a class, meaning you exhibit that you have all the knowledge to skip that class, that at each step, if one is taking an AI and autodidactic approach, that they are tested and monitored by humans. And they would, of course, have to pay for this unless there's some scholarship for this testing as well or some subsidy. But I don't have any problem, And I actually encourage the establishment of a global university of K-through-adult education with high testing standards to validate AI and autodidactic Proficiency and fluency, in each completed module What are your thoughts, do you have any emotions in the risk reward of this?

[@sovorel-EDU]

Hi Lionshearthealth5235. I like your idea to address some aspects of the educational issue. I don't think there is a one size fits all for everything. We have many different types of learners with many different preferences. I think your idea could be very beneficial for a lot of people. I also think there are a lot of people that need more social mechanisms for learning. A good instructor that can best harness the power of the AI can be super effective. A mixed approach to all of this is what I think will be needed. I do a lot of self-directed learning but I also want some real people/group learning as well. Thank you very much for your comment. Great info.

[@tearlelee34]

Good teachers could use this tool to level the playing field in education. Open AI just lowered the cost of access to children across the globe. Ironically this comes at a time during the era of the great replacement. I keep thinking GTP 5 is in training. Why are we not discussing this.?

[@middle-agedmacdonald2965]

I watch a lot of a.i. stuff, and a lot of people are GUESSING/speculating that Ilya, and the "alignment" team left. They infer that to mean it's finished, as in agi has been achieved internally, but they need way more compute to scale it up to the masses.

[@tearlelee34]

@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 Developers continue to move the bar for AGI publicly. The new metric now is where are the models on the curve. Four years ago Chat GPT 4 would be considered AGI it's multimodal. The safety team's departures should generate more discussion. Her understood sarcasm, emotions, practicality, tone, reasoning I believe the team is not opposed to this model delving deeper into the full range of human expression.

[@sovorel-EDU]

I agree, there is a lot going on here and teachers can use this AI tool for so much to help students in many different ways. I really question OpenAI's release of this "new" LLM, GPT-4.o. It is is a different model than GPT-4, it is their next model and much more advanced and capable. So why didn't they call it GPT-5? My thought is that this is actually a scaled back version of GPT-5 that is extremely powerful. Sam Altman has discussed/indicated the need to push out incremental improvements so as not to overwhelm the public. - You are very right though, Tearle Lee, this should be discussed more.

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 Very interesting Middle Aged MacDonald. That is a very reasonable possibility and goes along with my thoughts that OpenAI has already created GPT-5 and is way more powerful than GPT-4. With the ongoing improvements in dedicated AI computer chips, improved efficiencies, and the possibility of quantum computing, being able to scale up for the masses might not be that far off.

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@tearlelee34 Agreed Tearle Lee, a major computer science/AI group with help from other groups should come out with a direct standard. That would greatly simplify things and make things easier to understand. A unified definition would also help us when we talk about this and discuss ethical issues and how to help society deal with inevitable changes. Right now I see AGI as very different than saying AI has a consciousness. Regarding the "Her" comparison/idea, aspects of short and long-term memory, processing, intent, beliefs, attitudes, desires, and motivations, would all need to be developed and understood within an AI for considering the idea of consciousness as a reality within an AI. What are your thoughts @tearlelee34 and @middle-agedmacdonald2965?

[@unclejoe8279]

Deep fakes need to sit and dress in a atmosphere that projects what they want to be and keep them from being homeless by making YT videos.

[@sovorel-EDU]

Could you explain that a bit more unclejoe8279? What do you mean by deep fakes regarding this video? Do you mean deepfake instructors? Please expand on your thoughts/comments.

[@Reishira-ln73ks]

No. I say. Artificial intelligence can not be a teacher a teacher is an instructor. Artificial intelligence does not instruct. Or supervise

[@sovorel-EDU]

Right, but it can instruct if I ask it to. It doesn't supervise, but it can be programmed to observe (it is multimodal now) and then react and report. It continues to develop in its capability in many different ways. Yet it still greatly lacks with full emotional understanding, real motivation, and authentic enthusiasm. It lacks the human element that is important for some aspects and educational situations.

[@timkilpatrick.1167]

I believe it is. I have been able to have ChatGTP 4o answer questions with a screen shot and aswer the questions correctly and why the answer was correct. I never got that type of help as child from any teacher.

[@sovorel-EDU]

Thank you for commenting Tim. I agree that it is awesome to have a 1 on 1 instructor/tutor, but I think that teaching and learning is more that just that type of help. You are right that a teacher in a normal setting could never be standing for each and every student for every single step, but I think the answer lies in having teachers work with the AI. A great teacher can really enhanced the learning, especially they were to have a tool such as this that could help in just the same way you described.

[@billkemp9315]

Yes, eventually.

[@sovorel-EDU]

See I just don't see that. I mean I do think a good real human teacher will always greatly enhance the learning experience. I totally acknowledge that there are many times when I want to learn on my own and using an AI will be great. But I still see a future where good teachers will always be wanted. Many will simply prefer a real human presence as well. What are you thoughts though Bill? Why do you feel that it is an eventuality?

[@keksz6799]

​@@sovorel-EDU That's absolutely and utterly hands down true, and what's amazing to me is that the lower bracket of teachers will be decimated. The upper level, as you said the good teachers will of course still remain, and perhaps incorporate and integrate AI into their teaching accordingly if they want to compete with teachers who do exactly that. But you know, my ethos towards the entire thing is as follows: The lower bracket will be done, the average high school teacher can't compete with AI. The upper echelon should remain to a degree, but... ...who the hell knows anymore. There is an entity which can teach basically anything, and if you don't understand that particular thing that the AI taught you, you can quickly ask followup questions, you don't have to worry about the human emotionality side of things E.G: Asking too many stupid questions and worrying if you're annoying the teacher. You can ask it to simplify it in a way that you'd understand You can ask the AI to become someone who you can better understand You can ask the AI: figure out why can't I understand this, ask me some questions, what's the best possible incarnation of answer that we can come to a consensus on regarding ME getting better at learning WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO LEARN, TEACH ME HOW TO LEARN STEP BY STEP HOW DO I APPLY THIS CONCEPT TO.... ....NEARLY ANYTHING EVER AND IT ANSWERING AS QUICK AS A HUMAN CAN, FASTER EVEN IN SOME CASES The more I write the more I realize good teachers are this. This is a good teacher. GPT4o sounds like a human, talks and thinks like a human, learns and memorizes things like a human, your argument that AI cannot replace human teachers because AI cannot establish connections with the students and cannot facilitate human interaction is completely and utterly farcical and is behind the guise of emotionality! Tell the AI to be emotional then. Tell the AI to establish an emotional connection then, if it can't, then ask it why it can't, tell the mistakes the AI is making, improve this because of this, talk in this way, you can totally establish an emotional connection if you super want to. And as for human interaction, I mean... ...discussions and group activities are a direct prerequisite to a femcentric educational system. I'll state this with absolute certainty: These 2 are not requisites to learning. I really, genuinely hold the belief that if you write out what the concept is, why the concept is important, and how you can apply this concept, and then ask chatgpt questions, and find out more about this concept, and the different various concoctions of little nuances that are in regards to this particular concept... ...You can learn anything. Teachers are obsolete. Effects will ensue. It seems to me that the attack vector these AI OVERLORDS have chosen is directed not at the physical endeavours but rather the teachers, the programmers, and such. How unexpected! I mean would it not make sense to take care of the slave-esque jobs first? Wouldn't that be easier? Clearly not. Perhaps the paradigms they purport are corrolated with the fact that they want to exert more control over the populus via decimating the creative thinking jobs with THE ALL SEEING, ALL KNOWING, EYE, CHATGPT. Only the ones that adapt and can also remain strong by proxy will remain in this AI takeover. Teachers are done. When I first started writing this I was actually super optimistic, I likened it with other fields that are being taken over by AI, and that they are not completely replaced but rather enhanced with AI. But this cannot be the case with teachers. Almost every teacher is done. You'd have to be some super special teacher to not get removed completely. The only question is... ...What will humanity do with this ability to learn anything, ever? Perhaps the tiktok brain, and doom scrolling phenomenon will become more apparent than ever, "too hard!" for they cannot outsource learning anymore. It is all on the individual now! You know, the more AI videos I watch, the more I hear the words scared, and afraid, and I understand completely. The average man can be replaced now. The average man can't speak and think as good as a free AI chatbot. WHAT A PIVOTAL TIME IN HISTORY INDEED, 2024. I wonder if this is how the people in the industrial revolution felt like. Super cool! I'm very much like : "I can't wait to see what's going to happen in the next episode!" But anyways if you read this, that's cool, I'd be interested in what you think about AI replacing the average man and such, and by extension regarding the video, certainly replacing the average teacher, and in my opinion the higher echelon teachers also.

[@CameraOnTheMove]

The passages from your books are very lengthy and difficult to understand. Were these written by ChatGPT?

[@sovorel-EDU]

No CameraonTheMove, I didn't use ChatGPT or another AI to write it for me. It is more of an academic book though. I put it on the screen but also read it to make it easier. I realize that much shorter sentences and paragraphs can help with readability, but I was try to stress a specific concept there. Thank you though. I will take it all into consideration. I am working on a new book that also deals with AI and education. I have started using AI more to help me with organization and for some brain storming, but I still like to do the writing myself. - Sometimes I will use Grammarly as a second pair of eyes to catch any grammar errors.

[@CameraOnTheMove]

@@sovorel-EDU Thank you. I get it. The points you have raised are very important. I agree with your analysis and it will not be easy to replace a classroom teacher anytime soon. I eagerly look forward to your new books and I am also subscribing to your channel. It has good, meaningful, and thought-provoking content. Thank you.

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@CameraOnTheMove You are very welcome CameraOnTheMove. I liked several of your videos on your channel. The flower park in Mumbai was very calming. I greatly appreciate you subscribing and thank you for commenting. The more we can develop a community of inquiry and practice the better.

[@lionshearthealth5235]

I didn't personally find them difficult to read. I do read a lot of Plato, Aristotle, and the Epistles of Paul, which all have very long sentences because they're such large ideas, so I'm somewhat used to big thoughts with lots of moving pieces. It is wise, though, for public-facing media to be broken down into smaller bits, but I do think maintaining authenticity to your thoughts, as long as they are coherent and logical, is important.

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@lionshearthealth5235 Agreed. I appreciate the comment and suggestions.

[@CowboyOdie]

The short answer is yes, and very soon. The long answer: "Teachers" (with 24 stidents per year) will become "Facilitators" (with 300 students per year). That meams every 12 teaches will be replaced with one Facilitators. Facilitators will get progress reports from the "AI teacher." They will meet with each student two or three times a month. But those meetings will not be educational. They will be counseling and coaching sessions.

[@sovorel-EDU]

I could see some implementations of that, just like already exists with some educational institutions through the use of online education. It would be very cost effective but would lose a lot of the social/humanity aspect. Personally, I don't think wide implementation like that will take place. We shall see. Thank you very much for the comment and possibility, CowboyOdie.

[@user-cv9cd4sq2n]

Teachers have been obsolete for decades

[@sovorel-EDU]

What do you mean? Can you explain a bit more so that we know where you are coming from and in what context? How is a teacher obsolete? We need teachers to help us learn. A person could always learn by themselves but that is usually much less effective than learning from a good teacher.

[@user-cv9cd4sq2n]

@@sovorel-EDU simple analogy….did the man who invented college go to college ? Ok then

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@user-cv9cd4sq2n No he didn't go to college since it didn't exist yet. One can be fully educated without college or without a teacher. I'm not arguing for that. What I am saying is that a good teacher is very valuable and will always be needed, Perhaps you are very educated and never needed a teacher, that is great. I think a majority of people are not fully self-motived and very much need a good teacher to help them excel. I personally would not have achieved the levels I have reached if I did not have excellent teachers along the way. By that I mean great teachers in elementary school, high school, and college. They all inspired me and helped me excel, much more than I would have had I just been trying to learn on my own.

[@user-cv9cd4sq2n]

@@sovorel-EDU you are correct. The problem with society is that we keep trying to advance people who are not fully self-motivated. Therefore, we use up all of our resources trying to educate and to make the lives of people who don’t deserve it and who are lazy better. We should be rewarding and giving opportunities to people that are fully self motivated and are striving to be the best humans they can be. But teachers have the exact opposite.

[@sovorel-EDU]

@@user-cv9cd4sq2n Interesting perspective. I would say I didn't become at least partially self-motivated until my junior year in high school. Even now I can be much more motivated in certain courses based on the instructor. I also don't think that someone that isn't fully self-motivated is simply lazy. I think there are a multiple of factors. Again, I express the importance of needing "good" teachers to help develop students to become more self-motivated. We would lose out on the value of a lot of good people if we simply relied on only people that are fully self-motivated. That is my view and experience at least.

[@vikasrai338]

It's obsolete.

[@sovorel-EDU]

Vikasrai338, tell me more. It is one thing to say it, but I want to better understands for why you feel that. Please explain.

[@vikasrai338]

@@sovorel-EDU hmm...well there are all the reasons - 1. Good teachers are totally missing, and it's almost impossible to find near you at right time. 2. Udemy etc. is picking up like anything. Best part is that all teaching is verified. It can't be true with every teacher. 3. Cost-big factor, online, especially in AI age, knowledge is free 4. Value of knowledge-it might as well become worthless for most part, because AI brain will do it so cheaply. 5. AI and then with VR/AR can provide completely immersive experience of customised learning. 6. AI is killing every job. Robo-AI combo with machine learning with scalability and being digital, human is already no match in any way. 7. We are going away from the topic, you see human relationship with dog. Perhaps dog can think, that we are very good servant of it, we work, feed, protect. Very soon, our situation may be soon like the dogs, where We may think, AI is doing service to us and we will be as lethargic and useless like a dog. AI will be next super-human who can do everything better and awesome and will be in full control. Our situation could just be like totally ignorant what's coming in every 3 months. Learning is anyway not worth when what you learn will very soon become obsolete. Please don't think I am negative. I am just keeping my eyes open. I am also as afraid as anyone.

[@jmcampbell05]

YOU ARE TEDIOUS

[@sovorel-EDU]

Sorry you feel that way, please explain. Lets have a conversation.