Hi there - Id like to answer the issue with the oil cap: Whilst we recognise this is due the the high rise exhaust, you can actually remove the oil cap without issue and as long as you use a jug with flexi end, or indeed oil container with flexible end (such as Motorex 1L oils) there is no problems with clearance. Its not as simple as many other bikes, we agree but it is easily "doable" with the correct container. The Triumph Scrambler has a similar issue with clearance. Great video Mr Flyer, and glad you loved the bike so much.
@omontanhista6 жыл бұрын
Hello Sinnis, is there any way to put a top case and side cases?
@MrHarleyoldfart5 жыл бұрын
It Clearly looks like the oil cap doesn't have enough room to unscrew.
@davemurphy20205 жыл бұрын
Turn it upsidown and fill it through the drain plug
@hollyhillrc4 жыл бұрын
@@davemurphy2020 😄😄😄
@Vernon2406 жыл бұрын
Is there nowhere the intrepid TMF won't go to test bikes? I almost spilt my tea when the winter wonderland came on! Outstanding!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Vernon!
@berniemitchell94406 жыл бұрын
I'm showing my age now but I can remember when people said the same thing about Japanese bikes , but like you mentioned a bit of maintenance does go a long way.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@pikeywyatt6 жыл бұрын
we must be of the same age.
@Lee-70ish4 жыл бұрын
Agreed Bernie my first Japanese bike was in 1973 and I was very sceptical but it proved to be bullet proof however the higher performance bikes did have a limited life my brothers Honda CB K1 was shot after 39000 . However he rode it hard. Nowadays they are so much better
@xxxAtpe3 жыл бұрын
Yes maintance very very easy same like Suzuki gn 125 or 250.
@specialcircs6 жыл бұрын
Sinnis should allow buyers to choose their own number, that'd be a nice personalised touch
@SinnisMotorcyclesOfficial6 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea - We thought of this when we released it, but we would have to supply dealers with lots of vinyl numbers. They didnt like that idea
@filthymcnastyazz6 жыл бұрын
Contact SC spray paint it and buy a decal
@michaelfennelly64116 жыл бұрын
Sinnis Motorcycles any reason for 71 ?
@robertmorley91494 жыл бұрын
I had a sinnis trackstar 125 when I came back in to motorcycling after 30 year out, to learn to ride again . I loved it and had no issues with the bike or build . great little bikes for a great price. love your reviews .
@spetersonmusic6 жыл бұрын
It's been an interesting process to see and this video lays it out pretty plainly. Value bike, check. Fun, check. Nuff' said.
@archer80966 жыл бұрын
What really stands out for me is the point you make about maintenance/care. Some folks give Chinese bikes a lot of stick due to fit and finish quickly going off with corrosion showing on bolts/surfaces etc. I think if you are realistic with your initial expectations and always clean and apply ACF-50 etc you really can keep the bikes looking good. Another great review 👍🏼
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I think you've hit the nail on the head Tom, you have to look after these bikes like any other, not just treat them as a "disposable" machine...
@AustinArto11 ай бұрын
Sinnis used this rolling chassis (with different forks) for a 250 cc variant called the Retrostar. The power-to-weight ratio is even more impressive, and my example is still going strong after five years with few issues. Yes, ACF50 will preserve a bike.
@jessedavis78195 жыл бұрын
I'm a massive fan of your video reviews. You go the extra mile (such as riding in the snow) to give us the best possible information. Nicely done.
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesse - I aim to please!
@pinkiewerewolf6 жыл бұрын
The bike certainly looks the part. This is the first I've heard of Sinnis. If I were a young college student (and if these were available in California USA) I'd pop for one in a heartbeat. Cheers from Far-Nor-Cal.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
@pikeywyatt6 жыл бұрын
thay do a 250 witch i have and a very nice bike..pikey wyatt
@lunayconsuela6 жыл бұрын
There’s quite a few people here with channels giving advice on motorbikes with only a few years of experience which is sad because new bikers follow that advice. But you have got ample experience and it shows. I’ve been riding for 35 years of which 2 years on a 50cc and about 15 years during winter as well and I find your reviews interesting and informative. Keep it up!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@camerongeater54046 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review for a while, because I've needed something to validate my desire to come to the UK and get a Mutt! There's a seemingly huge market, with a ton of manufacturers, for these "small" Chinese-sourced bikes. In the US, there just aren't many bike in this category.
@jamesm93126 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Would be Interested to know how many miles you covered over the seven month period to put the usage into a wider context. Also as a point of reference the scrambler with the same spec as your demo is listed on the Sinnis website for £2349.00 a whopping 30% + difference over your suggested price of £1695.00 which might be enough to make it look less of a bargain for many.
@motogroover27896 жыл бұрын
WOW! Your energy levels are Phenomenal Mr Flyer! All this time watching your vlogs, as you ride hundreds of bikes, & in the background you had this for 7 months! I take my hat off to you sir! Remarkable! These are the vids that slaughter the professional bike reviewers. They go on with technical jargon & how it works, & no negativity as no other manufacturer will let them review their bikes. Then you get a bloke that loves bikes, combined with the energy of a nuclear power plant, & you get this true down to earth view through another persons eyes on how the bike will be. You then jump on the bike at a dealership, start riding, & wham! Look at that, just like MrFlyer said it would. Luv it!!! Good onya groover! Luv ya work! ;-)
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks MG - you're becoming my number 1 fan!
@owl775 жыл бұрын
I like a long term review but hope you include a rear seat review too as we most likely to bring someone along for a ride. Thanks.
@DaveDayve6 жыл бұрын
It's a blast, I've a 1290, 500, and this to ride with the missus as she can only ride 125s for now. It's a fun do it all little runner. Light, flickable, fun in all conditions and cheap as chips. I retroed mine a bit more, brown seat black tank pads to cover the grey and tail tidy enduro style. If only I could post a pic here :-)
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes they are a lot of fun for the money aren't they Dave, love the lightness of these....
@SinnisMotorcyclesOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Send a picture to us at SInnis - we would love to see it. Check out our owners group on Facebook. @sinnismotorcycles
@churcher83345 жыл бұрын
13 front sprocket and 42 rear sprocket. You will go much better and will accelerate upto 65mph easily. Even up hill. You will also get a sweet spot around the 40 mph area, ideal for overtaking. And the first gear becomes really short, but you will always pull away at the front of traffic lights.
@barnbersonol5 жыл бұрын
I have a Sinnis retrostar 250 which is essentially the same as one of these with twice the power therefor as pokey as hell. 70 on the flat, easy. And 75mpg. I love it!
@splodge57146 жыл бұрын
Great honest review on a nice bike. The exhaust burning your leg and having to remove it to take the oil filler cap off shows lack of development. I would also change the nylon tyres for branded road tyres. In 10 years we' all be buying Chinese bikes... or electric.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yep - ignore them at your peril!
@MoroMagrew6 жыл бұрын
Or Chinese built electric bikes. There are so many manufacturers churning out electric bikes in China, they have taken over! The Soco is a great example of a Chinese built electric bike.
@JLOSTAFF16 жыл бұрын
You deserve a mention in despatches for just riding it and you deserve a medal for riding it in the snow - the heavy breathing was amusing. :-0 Well done.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir...
@cloggsy19716 жыл бұрын
Have been looking forward to this video for a while - it didn’t disappoint 👍🏻 Great value cheap bike if you’re looking for one 👍🏻
@David40S6 жыл бұрын
I've always been prepared to look down my nose at these Chinese bikes, but Sinnis have come up with some nice little machines including a 125 'Adventure bike complete with hard luggage. At these prices, what's not to like? The purchase price is more than the depreciation on some second hand bikes used for urban commuting.
@SinnisMotorcyclesOfficial6 жыл бұрын
The Sinnis Terrain - thank you for your kind comments :)
@Mtthwpez6 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with Chinese bikes. Nearly every problem is usually down to owner negligence. Pretty much every other bike manufacturer has their bikes made in China, so that is a lot of bikes to lose out on if you do have a problem with them! Great review!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Matt
@mikeymike32406 жыл бұрын
Hi there, a couple of wee tips for riding in the snow............ Let some air out of the both tyres, probably around 15/20 psi. Ride in the fresh snow if you can, way better tyre grip and better braking. .hope this helps. 😀👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I’ll bear it in mind for next time, thanks!
@ArtyVanHoming3 жыл бұрын
decent honest review ,in all weathers not just a sunny day like most would do .
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Daryl - I try and make my reviews as "real world" as possible, it's one of the reasons I never go to bike launches....
@ThreeGeees6 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review. Owned sinnis scooters/motorcycles for 6 years now and have to say they are very good. My apache is 5 years old and still runs and looks like new. It's always kept clean and protected with acf50. Problem is the bike is cheap so people tend to cheap out maintenance.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point - you do have to look after these bikes....
@davesharratt4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank you for testing the sinnis bikes as it helped me to decide to buy one for my wife,she has recently passed her cbt and i said i would buy her a bike and these certainly don't break the bank, so her first ever bike is a sinnis Hoodlum (her choice)... So now she is always pestering me to go out with her ,shes got the bug finally along with my son who started on a sinnis 125 and now has a cbr 650f.. Many thanks for the great vids and help deciding Dave
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@pastie31316 жыл бұрын
What a great review TMF, you covered everything. Anyone thinking about getting a small commuter bike will really appreciate your work here. I agree about the maintenance points you make. I ACF 50 my bike and my wife’s bike even after summer washes because I am sure Road salt sticks around long after winter. Keep up the great work!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pastie - and agreed, these things don’t look after themselves!
@helmhurst5 жыл бұрын
I've used a Ducati Scrambler throughout this winter gone. No problems and still going well.
@joevanwyk3816 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! You have done new and second time bikers a great service here to get into motorcycling on the cheap. As ever a great honest review of owning and maintaining a motorcycle. Thanks TMF!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
@tigerick72916 жыл бұрын
I wish they had affordable and cool bikes like this when I was a lad. I ran an MZ TS 125 because that was all could afford then and it wasn't cool. Thankfully things have improved.😊
@SigmaJAD6 жыл бұрын
What a bloody good idea to review this bike over the shit weather season 👏. You both came out the other side in a fine state
@peted72956 жыл бұрын
love the little thing, if I could justify it i'd have one as a second bike just for running around locally and maybe some green lanes.
@chris53small2 жыл бұрын
well done for what i consider a great review loved the riding in the snow bit especially
@TheMissendenFlyer2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@davidgibbon89273 жыл бұрын
In snow/ice/mud lower the tyre pressures to 12psi ish which will increase grip as it also increases the contact area. Obviously your speed needs to be much slower and use body to a) keep bike upright and b) move weight fore/aft to put weight over back wheel or as needed... Then it is a much more pleasant ride and you'll get through surprisingly difficult conditions. Good luck!
@mickeypopa6 жыл бұрын
People generally knock Chinese bikes and scooters, but honestly you get what you put in. That goes for every bike. If you use premium brand oil (bike is cheap so you can afford it) and keep it clean and lubed, it won't give out on you and will serve you well for quite a long time. I know for a fact Chinese scooters are big in Britain and people ride them for tens of thousands of miles.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
...well I'm not sure how you're defining "big" but certainly I am starting to see one or two on the roads....
@mickeypopa6 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer Scooters, not motorcycles.
@Desmo9044 жыл бұрын
Just catching up on this video in 2020. I have to say it's probably a nicer bike than my first bike! A Kawasaki KE100. The build quality is probably better too. I had Cheng-Shin's finest tyres on mine and they could skid in the dry! I was 19 at the time and skint but it was great transport. This bike looks perfectly acceptable and you certainly kept it looking remarkably clean throughout your 7 months!
@specialcircs6 жыл бұрын
I realise you're a cool as cucumber pilot, so probably not easily fazed but riding in snow like that THEN in the dark and snow. You're a champion!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
..fear not, that was a different day - no snow on the night bit....
@XV2504 жыл бұрын
Great detailed review. Very informative. My hat is off to you regarding riding in the snow - LOL. I would never attempt riding in that kind of snow myself!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ....and I probably shan’t be trying it again!!!
@JonathanCox946 жыл бұрын
Having a full bike licence I bought one of these bikes (or be it a different manufacturer, same bike underneath) and it’s been a blast to ride, modified it looks stunning and so comfortable to ride compared to my CBR F4i,
@bikky6086 жыл бұрын
great review thank you you never disappoint . Keep thinking about a 125 for work and back but no ommph no garage and not enough money puts me off every time i will stick with my triumph
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob!
@Jooeffoh5 жыл бұрын
Suzuki derived GS125 engine, so should be reliable enough and seems like great value for someone starting out biking.
@axeman65606 жыл бұрын
Looks hard work in the snow , good on you for bringing us that! People will buy this bike on your thorough review, nice one TMF.
@MoroMagrew6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I have been looking forward to this review! I have always thought this was a fantastic looking bike, but the oil cap being covered by the exhaust issue was a surprise for me! Seems like a real oversight of such a key feature of the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes bit of a silly one that, I'd be tempted to change the exhaust if it was mine anyway, to reroute it and get some more noise out....
@mr_mon-eye6 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you doing a long term review on the Sinnis terrain
@quas3923 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this thorough review! I've been eyeing up these bikes to get as my first as I'm due to do my CBT in June (really excited). I think the engine's a Suzuki GN125 unit copy, I recognise the frame is pretty universal across many manufacturers.
@jamesgoodwin24506 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a couple of Chinese quad bikes,and the bushes on the swing arm and front suspension just fell apart,but as you say if you keep the maintenance up your be ok,and they did get a hard life,just depends what you want and how much money you’ve got to spend,great long term review
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers James....
@simonb46666 жыл бұрын
God your reviews are good! Literally everything I've ever wondered about this bike was covered! As a new rider, as much as I love your high-end bike reviews, I really enjoy hearing your thoughts on more entry-level bikes. Looking forward to looking at what else you have in store this year before I make a decision on my first post-125 bike!
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Simon, I love ALL bikes regardless of size, type or country of origin!
@Bowlin016 жыл бұрын
LOL! Couldn't believe you went out in the snow...Nutter!! Excellent fun for us though! Glad the light at night was good for you in 'real life' , it looked awful in the video. Another great video, keep 'em coming.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yeah the GoPro is useless in low light.....
@SteveInskip6 жыл бұрын
Sinnis have made a reasonable point about the oil filler and a lot of new products, bikes included, sometimes need a bit of development, but that exhaust ‘run’ is definitely something they should work on in the future. You can defend it on a new product but you couldn’t defend it in five years time!
@DaveDayve6 жыл бұрын
It's a genuine GN 125 Suzuki engine in a Chinese frame and components. So got a good heart in it. Great review. Thanks for that :-)
@shaunheath45844 жыл бұрын
Excellent review,have been contemplating buying one,now i definitely will. Thanks for a great unbiased review👍👍
@tw25rw4 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about bikes, but my first thought was that it was a ridiculous design of exhaust pipe. Asking for a bad injury.
@Radioactive_Slime6 жыл бұрын
I think riding the Sinnis in the snow proved a great success. Admit it, the little Scrambler did something that your mighty GS would never do. 🏍👍❄️💪. Look at what Ed March achieves on his C90. Sure sacrificing a little comfort perhaps, but competent nonetheless. Fabulous review Missenden Flyer.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I admit it - I wouldn't dare take my big heavy GS in the snow like that.......you're leaning on an open door!
@davidbowering98206 жыл бұрын
The Sinnis website has the Euro 4 EFI model priced at £2349+OTR . The price of £1695+OTR is for the older carb model with rear drum brake.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification (I'd take the carb model!)...
@disekjoumoer6 жыл бұрын
The read brake lever looks like it could quite easily catch on something, including the road in a right hand corner.
@Banditmanuk6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see value for money bikes, hopefully if they are good it will put a bit of pressure on the mainstream manufactures to keep their prices in check.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
That would be nice!
@SteveInskip6 жыл бұрын
Great video and a very well balanced opinion. For that price you can afford to ‘rat’ it a bit and make it ‘work’ bit better and the exhaust definitely needs a bit of work. Great vid as always although missed MrsF on the drum-roll for ‘the top thing you’d change’.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
She’ll be starring in a future video soon Steve - stay tuned!
@Bongo46116 жыл бұрын
It is a very good looking bike. I'll be looking at one of these for my girlfriend while she learns to ride a big one!
@Off-Road-4x43 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that, very useful. It looks very similar to the AJS 71 desert scrambler. I do like them both. Must have a look if there is a dealer near me. Cheers.
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it of interest!
@AfricaTwin-Stuff6 жыл бұрын
Great review. It’s a pity “professional” reviewers can’t do well balanced reviews like this one. Too much vested interest I guess. I suspect the days of the professional reviewer are numbered. No one in their right mind would buy a bike based on their reviews (generally speaking).
@martind3496 жыл бұрын
Honda NC750X Stuff fortnine good egg
@martinfrost35966 жыл бұрын
TMF Yet another great review. Nice looking bike (apart from exhaust system) But no, no, no DO NOT SAW OFF THE FRONT MUDGUARD
@thra5herxb12s Жыл бұрын
Hundreds of miles in 7 months is very little use. I wonder how it would fare after Thousands of miles in the same period. It still looks very good though, and apart from the brake pedal that looks like it would be getting tangled up on all sorts of undergrowth, I still fancy one.
@tomrayner81024 жыл бұрын
An absolutely terrific Review; really comprehensive, well done!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@simonzundapp24256 жыл бұрын
Current price is now £2300 (I've never seen it @ £1699) but I'm getting one next week....can Sinnis tell me where I can get the chrome exhaust leg protector from or is it an aftermarket one ? Great videos , good reviews👍
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I got it from Sinnis themselves after having burnt my leg a few times....I have a feeling they fabricated it specially....
@paramidge89353 жыл бұрын
Some (silly) people used to slag off the old MZ 125's years ago. Used one for three winter's of dispatch in london and home counties as a lad and it was superb - this is a similar issue I expect but I doubt it pulls away as quick as the little 2 stroke which saw off CG 125's up to 60mph then they had about 5mph more than me. I've got several bikes including a1200 cafe racer and an 800 adventure but would consider this as a jump on commuter and local runaround. Sinnis should get someone to take one to Mongolia or something (I am volunteering!).
@tinks436 жыл бұрын
Damn that snow ride looked like hard work 😡
@andyblackburn20686 жыл бұрын
Loved the bit in the snow . Awesome . Be fine to see you do the panagale and be beemer (another “scrambler” just for comparison lol ) My snow days riding ended when I 18 and past my car test 1979 lol
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes riding in snow is not something I recommend having tried it a few times now....
@poisonmans6 жыл бұрын
Has to be said TMF you certainly go to great lengths for your viewers. Nice review, great little bike and the old fuel gauge gripe again.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
@henrya35306 жыл бұрын
An excellent review. Well done! Kudos for actually testing the bike in the snow! If you were keeping the bike you might want to fit Cheng Shin tyres - I've been using them for over 25 years - which came as standard on my Sinnis Terrain and give great handling on snow and ice :-)
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Wow 25 years! I assume not on the same bike! Great feedback thanks....
@henrya35306 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! No, but I usually get around 10,000 miles from them on commuters, tourers, and cruisers. Maybe the nice people at Sinnis will be kind enough to loan you a Terrain to play with. It's not the fastest 125 but it does perform well on less-than-ideal surfaces where a high top speed is irrelevant :-)
@BatterseaBill6 жыл бұрын
The best review yet, good fun in the snow.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John....
@fastlanediaries65936 жыл бұрын
I was gripping onto the sofa watching this in the wet 😊
@darrenstone3693 Жыл бұрын
Pretty late to see this video. You are a brave man riding in snow Andy👍
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Thank you Darren, I’m not sure I do it again!
@darrenstone3693 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I honestly don't blame you Andy. Keep up the great work with the videos. I really enjoy watching them😊👍
@suetaylor51865 жыл бұрын
TMF you deserve a medal. Above and beyond you went for us. But a big thank you. You did sound a little like the Crumble in snow.... (It was the breathing lol) Maybe ride in a tsunami next time? Only kidding! But keep the 125 reviews coming!
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Sue - of course that was the old, unfit me....
@suetaylor51865 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Undoubtedly as you are now svelte TMF x😙
@gomertron63296 жыл бұрын
A really interesting review, it has gone a long in changing my opinion on Chinese built bikes. Cheers
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it of interest Tiny Tim...cheers!
@lemmontree16 жыл бұрын
Tried riding my 125 in the snow once. Dropped it after 5 meters and never drove in the snow again. ^^
@iamtherealzombie6 жыл бұрын
Best of luck finding a replacement exhaust for this bike, outside of buying one from Sinnis (assuming this motor is used in their other 125cc bikes) It's so small I don't see how it could take up enough room in your garage to not make an offer on it :) Great video as always.
@DaveTucker-vv4co6 жыл бұрын
I would take the bike to the local steel fabricators or even a decent exhaust shop. They would sort out new pipe arrangement, use the existing exhaust flange and weld on new pipe section. It's a slip on silencer, quite easy job. Lot of bike for the money
@malcolmmathers26905 жыл бұрын
swm silver vase would be interesting there retro style scrambler shineray engine and the gran Milano and a couple other variants all shareing same motor I believe
@scottmclennan61146 жыл бұрын
It’s quite a pretty little bike. Probably a good one to start out on.
@geoffozevans45006 жыл бұрын
Looks in great nick after our winter,a really good subjective review 😎👍
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers as ever Geoff
@davemurphy20205 жыл бұрын
Nice vid thanks. Now then, I have 40 + years of riding British, Jap, American and European bikes, Have recently owned and ridden 2 Chinese bikes. 1 liffan 6 years old 100km on the clock and 1 pioneer 10 year old 3,000km on the clock both had same problems, Head stock bearings crushed and wiring not protected from damp or abrasion also front brake shoes were made of marmite and the welding on both frames was terrible allowing rust to form under the paint. Also the chrome on the forks was so thin that rust blisters had formed within an inch of the seals, So there's £1000 worth of problems to fix if you appreciate your bike mechanic. Exhaust on both bikes were rusted through and the chains were almost shredded. So if you have a new one, check the nuts and bolts if you have an older one, like 10 years assume the worse. I currently ride a Japanese 83 Virago I would be very surprised to find a 20 year old Chinese bike still on the road. They are rust buckets and require knowledge beyond today's youngsters to keep them safe for longer than the warranty.
@Miata8226 жыл бұрын
It may be different in the UK, but here in the US where we've imported a lot of Chinese scooters it has been very difficult or impossible to bet replacement parts for some brands.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I’d not heard that here, thanks for the comment...
@sharpbends6 жыл бұрын
Excellent and comprehensive review. Glad Sinnis chimed in on the oil cap issue, not as bad as it first seems perhaps. But do note as someone else commented here that the RRP is currently listed on the website at around £2350 not £1695... maybe they can offer a TMF discount ;-)
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes the £1695 was for the pre Euro 4 carb'd model - apologies, my bad....
@sharpbends6 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer That's fine, doesn't matter in the slightest prices will always change regardless. Main point was that this was an excellent review, big congrats !
@canturgan6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Fin or a Norwegian ride one in the snow. They can do snow.
@meddlecho2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would be nice if you did a similar one for the Brat. 👍👌
@shaunbarclay13096 жыл бұрын
One thing I would have mentioned is fuel consumption. My MT125 can get 120mpg and normally costs less than a tenner to fill unless I’m proper running on fumes. 125cc’s in general are great wee fuel munchers.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes should have mentioned that - I was pretty much ragging it everywhere and got around 90mpg....I'm sure it would do better with less of a heavy throttle hand....
@darren_k84015 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your videos. One of the best reviewers of bikes I've come across and I've been looking at a lot recently. I'm planning to purchase my very first bike beginning of spring. I'm looking at the Mutt Hilts 125. I love the style of their bikes. Out of curiosity, what would you advise to be the best 125cc scrambler on the market for a first bike? Thanks again for your videos 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Well they’re all pretty much based on the same thing so go for whichever you like the looks of most...
@cctv52776 жыл бұрын
Decent little motor. I agree, if you look after your bike/s they’ll serve you better. By the way, watching you in the snow was a hoot. The part where you had to put your feet down and the bike going from left to right as you walked it along was so funny. And no-one can say you’re a fair weather biker, it looked pretty nasty. Cheers
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the kind words - much appreciated!
@mitchellnix52746 жыл бұрын
An excellent review as always. Most Chinese bikes I have seen do tend to look tatty quickly but I agree this is almost certainly due to lack of care. Some of the more expensive Japanese 125s are only rebadged versions anyway ( Yamaha 125 is the same as the Honley for example but several hundred pounds more). I have ridden a Chinese 125 as a commuter for 2 years and they make for very cheap transport. I've also ridden in much worse snow than that though I wouldn't recommend it. 😀
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
I don't recommend it either - this was done for entirely experimental reasons!
@springy-21126 жыл бұрын
Good honest review cracking little bike I think we shouldn't be so snooty about Chinese bikes unless we've owned one and know first hand...this wee sinis looks fine and of course so many big name bikes are built in China now anyway..👍👍👍👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@-DC-6 жыл бұрын
Exhaust removal to fill oil lol , absolute insanity!
@SinnisMotorcyclesOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Whilst we recognise this is due the the high rise exhaust, you can actually remove the oil cap without issue and as long as you use a jug with flexi end, or indeed oil container with flexible end (such as Motorex 1L oils) there is no problems with clearance.
@gertvanpeet31205 жыл бұрын
Nobody sees that it has no overhead cam. It has pushrods! It can not rev to 10000 rpm. Engine is a Honda copy from the sg 125. No chain, no tensioner , very reliable. Greetings!
@SweatyThumbsticks6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting all winter for this. Also, in regards to sitting on the bike whilst filling: I used to work in a petrol station many moons ago and if you sit on the bike with your helmet on, it looks like you're looking to make a quick exit, ie without paying. Some petrol stations won't activate the pump if you're on the bike or wearing a helmet for this reason.
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes good point (although I've never had that happen)...
@SweatyThumbsticks6 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer It's unlikely to be enforced as most petrol station workers don't want to be there and don't really care enough. At least that's how I saw it! Also doesn't apply to pay at the pump, as that's all automated and doesn't require any authorisation from the staff.
@rzu71206 жыл бұрын
Sweaty Thumbsticks Almost all pumps in the US are prepay. You can go inside and prepay, or use your credit card at the pump.
@jonathanwilde53376 жыл бұрын
Really glad you made this video. I'm gettin a 2016 Herald Classic which is pretty much the same bike as this sinnis just aesthetically different. Good to know I've not bought a shit bike haha Thank you!
@prasannamishra68186 жыл бұрын
Respect. You kept it like your GS.
@gringoanon45505 жыл бұрын
Those GN Suzukis will be good for sixty thousand miles if it gets a regular oil change. Then A valve grind, and maybe rings. But a trick I learnt on my 400 Honda twin, was add a capful of Wynns in with the oil. after sixty thousand their was not even a hint of a ring ridge and the bore was measured up at standard with no wear. If I put two capfuls in I would get clutch slip, but it might be less in these as theirs only a litre of oil, a lot less than the Honda.
@bristol89206 жыл бұрын
I think I will trade in my Busa for one, after all a bike you can ride in the snow is a must have....LOL....................... A nice all round review TMF......
@garya30566 жыл бұрын
Great gentlemanly review, TMF. Despite the pros you’ve delineated, the oil filler location inaccessibility behind the exhaust is a showstopper I suppose. Any idea of their sales in the UK? I’m not sure if they’ve made it to the US. Bravo to you on the snow ride! Cheers. 🏍👍🏍
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Gary - and no I'm afraid I don't have any sales figures....
@sussexbikerpillion6 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this is it looks great and with a push bike price tag on the bars. Ideal for Newbies, short haul, town. Would be more tempted with a few more horses under the bonnet. A fuel injected 250 unit out of the Retrostar model ? (Suzuki Unit) in the scrambler guise would be very interesting. Loved your ski Sunday part of the video :) So as to corrosion on fixings and bolts all good?
@TheMissendenFlyer6 жыл бұрын
All good - no sign of any deterioration - mind you I did ACF50 it regularly and kept it in a dry garage...which I'm sure helps...