Sirui: Saturn or Venus? The Difference Explained

[@connornyhan]

The Venus' design is synchro focus, the anamorphic elements are moving. That means its a 1.6x squeeze at infinity, but like 1.45 or 1.5 at close focus.

[@connornyhan]

@gothamindembaum aperture has nothing to do with it, it’s minimum focus vs infinity

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

It’s still a pain in the rear when paired with the Saturn 35 to try and fix the squeeze based on focusing distance.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

Have a set, paired with the 1.25x adapter the squeeze becomes a consistent squeeze throughout the entire focus range.

[@connornyhan]

@@BootStrapTurnerVideography only with the 1.25x adapter though since it features a variable diopter focus system.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

@@connornyhan actually the 150mm in my set has a constant squeeze without the adapter.

[@JackMajor]

The video I have been waiting for for several months, thank you so much!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Sure thing! And thank you!

[@doeme01709]

Thank you so much for this! I've been looking everywhere to find a comparasion of these two lenses

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I was too! I kinda fell into this review when I was sent the wrong lens, the Saturn. Before I returned it, I had the Venus in my hand and decided to do a short comparison to see which one I liked better. I’m so glad this accident happened because I ended up, loving the Saturn much more! Cheers!

[@westwoodmanorfilms7779]

Me as well. Thnx.

[@ZidaneLeonhart]

Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve been trying to find info on the difference between these lenses.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I was fortunate to have stumbled upon having access to both lenses. I'm glad it helped and thank you.!

[@uncleronnie589]

venus has a inconsistent squeeze ratio across different focal distances which they fixed in the saturn

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I thought I heard that from various reviews so this is good to know. Cheers!

[@lime61]

This is the answer

[@SlaughterHausD]

Yeah the Venus Ana-lens is located in the base rather than the end. If anything it should be more consistent. I've never heard any other reviews mention an issue with this. Any chance you got a dud?

[@mundifuturi4145]

Thank you very much! Kind of clear the trouble for me!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

You bet! Glad it helped.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

Dipping my toes into Anamorphic. What would you recommend to start with, acquiring a single lens at a time as budget permits, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm or larger? I suspect 35mm to start, but would love your opinion. Probably bundle the SIRUI 1.25x Anamorphic Adapter with the first lens purchase to make it 2x de-squeeze, probably improving the bokeh.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

That's a great question and it really depends on what you're shooting and what distance you have between camera and subject(s) The 35 is more like a 22mm, the 50 like a 31mm and the 75 will give you more a focal length of a 47mm. You can get magnification dioptors for well under $50 for these that'll allow you to get closer toy our subject, but the background will be completely blurred. I think the 35 & 75 make a great combo but I started with the 35. Hope tatb helps! Thanks!

[@visual_playground_by_zlatan]

Thank you for video. As beginner who is interested in anamorphic I found this so useful.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you so much!

[@nwonomad]

Thanks, great job man... I think you just saved me from making a massive mistake

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

This is so good to hear! I’m sure the Venus line shines at focal length like 100 but I’m happy with the Saturn at 75. Cheers!

[@whyjaywonders]

As they are using planet scale, Saturn lens should be heavier. Just saying...

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Haha! This is true! Love it.

[@AndrewLXiong]

Thanks for the review comparison...for me the weight matters especially for run and gun stuff and the flares on the Saturn just looks nicer with a straight horizontal flares instead of an oval flare in Venus.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Glad it helped! I love how for some the weight of the Venus is better but I agree for gimbals and the flare I prefer the Saturn.

[@swolodkin]

This video came at a perfect time for me. Now that I have the BMCC6K, I'm ready to get some affordable anamorphic glass. From your examples I can clearly see that I prefer the Saturn over the Venus. Now I just need to decide if it's blue or neutral flares. Personally, I really like the blue - but when shooting for clients it could be a problem. In any case, thanks for the video - I was hoping someone would help me out with some examples, your video was just the ticket.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

This is great to hear. I love it! I went through the same decision and luckily fell into a scenario where I was sent the wrong version. I had some time wth both on hand to try out. I love the Saturns and will probably add the 50mm eventually. Thank you again for this, and that you're going to love that BMCC. Keep us posted on it.

[@swolodkin]

But before the anamorphic, I need to find a solid standard zoom (~24-70mm). I'm struggling with this because the very fine Sigma Arts aren't stabilized unless I go back to adapting the older gen DG OS HSM from EF or F. Further complications arise considering I have a set of inexpensive Rokinon DS primes which are Nikon F (which work fine), but if I simply adapt the Art OS lens, I will lose the electronic functions, but keep the OS. If I try and save the electronics, I have to spend another $$ on an active EF to L adapter. And then there's the Panasonic S and S Pro which also have issues. Do you have any experience with this apparent quagmire? Am I too concerned with getting stabilization, do I really need the electronic functions?

[@j.b.7133]

Great video , exactly what I needed

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Glad it helped

[@pats_seidl]

thank you finally there s a comparison!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Awesome! I hope it helped!

[@dovgurewicz]

Great video thanks so much!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Thank you!

[@TaisonServicesPhotographie]

donc le meilleur es le saturn ou venus en anamorphic 50mm full frame ?? merci

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I haven’t tested the 50mm in either Saturn or Venus. Since I already own the Saturn 35 and 75 I might go with the Saturn option,

[@Hail_Sagan]

Great explanation, thank you!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

@@Hail_Sagan Awesome! And thank you.

[@Renstar333]

Thanks Matt!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Sure thing!

[@CINENIMUS]

*aspect ratio on 6k full frame at 1.6x is 2.4:1 even.

[@verebellus]

the flares on the saturn to me are more pleasing, but the general image on the venus is more my vibe

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

If I had the budget, I’d own both as I like the warmth of the Venue image.

[@socialmediainfo-um6hw]

any FX30 footage?

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I shoot on black magic cameras so when I purchase these lens, I purchased the L mount. But I bet they would look spectacular on that Sony camera.

[@morelz5954]

Thanks for this video❤

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Sure thing! And thank you.

[@CINEMAPALACE]

Interesting, but you should have compared Venus and Saturn with the same focal length...

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

I did. In this video, I'm comparing the 75mm of the Venus & Saturn series.

[@robertsakowski]

Thank you, thats very interessting!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

My pleasure and thank you.

[@thiagolimadop]

Thank you. I shoot with 35mm saturn and 150mm venus and they match.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

That 's great to hear, as I was considering the 150. Thnak you.

[@Alecaom]

THANKS!!!! :D

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Sure thing!

[@NoSuRReNDeR001]

Focal length is simply the point where the lens is at its "optical center" IT DOES NOT dictate field of view. Let me repeat that... focal length doesnt dictate Angle/FOV... you can expect a certain fov range at say 50mm typical listed in degrees... Try out 10 different 50mm lens on the same camera and due to this and other factors you will see a slight variation in whats in frame.

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

Focal length does indeed influence the field of view. A 24mm provides a wider field of view, while a longer focal length such as an 85mm gives a narrower field of view. And while it is true that different lenses/ same focal length can have slight variations in FOV due to design differences, coatings, and optics, these variations are generally minimal, with the sensor size determining the primary FoV. While slight variations can occur between different lenses of the same focal length, the fundamental relationship between focal length and field of view is consistent and significant.

[@MrJojoringo]

Surei? 😂

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

According to their spokesperson it’s pronounced “Sue-Ray”

[@mdcorbett]

In Asia, I think it should be closer to seer-ree, from my memory of Chinese class (going by Pinyin rules, "i" is pronounced more like an e). But it's been a while, so I may be a little off. Just got the 50mm Saturn. Can't wait to "really" try it out tomorrow! Thanks for the video!

[@mattspadesoundandvision]

@@mdcorbett Fantastic! I can't wait to add the 50 to my list! I'll have to find the video where the CEO of Sirui answer in interviewer about the pronunciation.