Siskel & Ebert Review Batman Forever

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@siphillis
@siphillis 12 жыл бұрын
Ebert: "Batman is the most fascinating and mysterious of all the comic book super heroes...he deserves more and better." Nolan: "Challenge accepted."
@user-sr3er1ub7r
@user-sr3er1ub7r 3 жыл бұрын
... and BOY did he deliver with his fantastic Trilogy .
@imperfect_dan7519
@imperfect_dan7519 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-sr3er1ub7r Facts
@thetribalist6923
@thetribalist6923 2 жыл бұрын
Ebert was a big fan of that trilogy. He gave Batman Begins and Dark Knight 4 stars (his highest rating) and gave Rises 3 out of 4.
@aaronhemme8913
@aaronhemme8913 Жыл бұрын
True story
@thewandering525
@thewandering525 23 күн бұрын
And then he made three shitty movies.
@codyreitsma2184
@codyreitsma2184 9 жыл бұрын
I always thought Val Kilmer was a very good Bruce Wayne/Batman, and although I like Batman Forever, I still would have loved to have seen Kilmer in a more serious Batman movie. I think that if you picture Val Kilmer in the Dark Knight Trilogy (basically the same type of performance that Christian Bale gave, but with Kilmer instead), those movies would still work equally well and Kilmer could have portrayed a very vulnerable Wayne and tortured/dark Batman in Nolan's take.
@RetardicA
@RetardicA 12 жыл бұрын
"Batman deserves more and better" A wild Nolan appears.
@alsoknownas875
@alsoknownas875 10 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen this movie in a long time, but as a young teen I do remember liking "Batman Forever" a lot.
@lw3646
@lw3646 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid I used the find the Tim Burton ones bleaker and scarier but I appreciate them more now as an adult, especially the original.
@twmax6525
@twmax6525 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good movie in many ways and portrays Batman very powerfully.
@eboooo
@eboooo 6 жыл бұрын
Kiss from a rose exploded Seal's career that year.
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 5 жыл бұрын
Was a big fan of him since "Crazy" in '90. Loved that '94 album and "Human Beings."
@NastiMarvasti
@NastiMarvasti 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Eyob the whole soundtrack for this movie was awesome. U2 and The Flaming Lips songs were also great among others.
@DanielECarroll
@DanielECarroll 2 ай бұрын
The Offspring and Method Man contributed killer tracks as well!
@irwinator2019
@irwinator2019 Ай бұрын
Seal's music in general is excellent. Can't get enough of his first two albums. Eagerly awaiting the remaster of "Seal II" this summer (with demos and bonus tracks galore). Seal was already a successful artist (eg. Crazy, Killer), but yes, this film (and Kiss from a Rose) changed everything for him.
@eboooo
@eboooo Ай бұрын
@irwinator2019 i saw Seal talk about how the movie changed his life talking about the late director, really beautiful
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 12 жыл бұрын
I loved "Batman" and "Batman Returns" but I won't even have the other two in my house.
@Moviefan2k4
@Moviefan2k4 10 жыл бұрын
People unfairly bash "Batman Forever" now, because they associate it with the poorly-executed sequel, "Batman & Robin". Yes, both entries had the same director, but there's one crucial difference: the WB execs deliberately constructed "Forever" as a movie, and the sequel as a commercial.
@briansivley2001
@briansivley2001 10 жыл бұрын
I agree and I have no memory of Batman and Robin and I have more memory's of Batman Forever and it's my favorite Batman movie par none I love Jim Carry but at first I didn't think he would do a good job as The Riddler I thought he would be a great Joker because he's a comedian and what do you think of clowns comedy. But I was wrong big time he was great at The Riddler and from what I have heard he based he's performance from The Frank Gorson Riddler from the 1960s Batman series and I do agree Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face is a lot like The Joker in terms of being funny I really didn't like Jake Nicolson's Joker he was a little too dark and creepy for my liking (and before you ask if I like Mark Hamel as the Joker definitely I adore him as the Joker he's so funny as the Joker) but the rest of Batman Forever is great even Robin making a reference to the Bert Ward version of Robin is great. I just don't look at reviewers to decide what to watch I decide myself and if I like it well I'll buy it.
@drebone1986
@drebone1986 6 жыл бұрын
I don't hate this film and never unfairly bashed it but over Returns, never but it's decent if you never seen Keaton's films before, for the record here's my list: 1: Batman 2: Batman Returns 3: Batman Forever 28: Batman and Robin
@jonathanjones8738
@jonathanjones8738 5 жыл бұрын
No people bash forever cause it sucks regardless of it's sequel
@franksmith613
@franksmith613 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I like about Batman Forever is Jim Carrey. I think he is a pretty good Riddler, but other than that the movie was garbage!
@kmvoss
@kmvoss 4 жыл бұрын
This movie was panned when it was new. This movie always ducked, regardless of the next one.
@lawrence359
@lawrence359 8 жыл бұрын
batman forever is meant for mainstream viewing. Batman returns was more art house. When Ebert says batman forever is better than returns, he means it was more fun.
@IWantToMature85
@IWantToMature85 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain what you mean by art house?
@Jackal_El_Lobo34
@Jackal_El_Lobo34 7 ай бұрын
@@IWantToMature85He means that Batman Returns had more style then substance. It looked visually beautiful but didn’t have an interesting story. I kinda share Ebert’s opinion on it. “Returns” doesn’t really feel like a Batman movie. It felt more like another Tim Burton movie that just so happened to have Batman in it. The action was lacking and more emphasis was put on the villains being the main protagonist while Batman acted as a side character on what should’ve been his own movie.
@crazyjkz
@crazyjkz 10 жыл бұрын
If you look back to the Batman comics you will see that Batman Forever captured the essence of the Batman comic books better than pretty much any Batman film to date, it stayed true to the comics for the most part. Although it might be a little too campy and light in some scenes, you can't deny there were also many good scenes that really captured the darkness of Batman/Bruce Wayne as well as his trouble with duality and how he was tormented by the memories of his parent's murder. Also, the Robin character was done very well and his backstory held true to the original comics. I don't see how anyone could say that Batman Returns is better film than Batman Forever. And the reason why Batman Forever was light and campy in some scenes is because the original comics were light and campy in some parts. Joel Schumacher himself has said he drew inspiration directly from the Batman comics from the 40s & 50s and was going for a living comic book style and theme, and in this regard he succeeded.
@jonathanjones8738
@jonathanjones8738 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has read a majority of comics would say no. The very best batman stories are way different from this crap film. It's poorly written poorly acted, gotham looks like a giant disco club, Batman does not act like batman. Even the Dick Sprang era of comics were better than this
@jonathanjones8738
@jonathanjones8738 5 жыл бұрын
And no the first few years of batman comics were in line with the burton films. Very dark even after they added robin. Hell in the early 40s they had the original clayface who was originally a serial killer. So no. You have no clue what you are talking about.
@RShadow12
@RShadow12 5 жыл бұрын
Each Batman film is comic book accurate in their own way: Burton Films: Golden Age of Batman (dark and brooding + killing) Schumacher films: silver age of Batman (campy and fun) Nolan: modern age of Batman/year one (grounded, serious, and realistic) Snyder: modern age of Batman/the dark knight returns (older and badass)
@seanreyes6866
@seanreyes6866 4 жыл бұрын
@@RShadow12 best comment here of all. 👍💯
@anthonymusto3537
@anthonymusto3537 2 жыл бұрын
There is no directors cut of this movie
@stephenhuntsucker3766
@stephenhuntsucker3766 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it weird how these clips are a time machine now?
@adamzanzie
@adamzanzie 10 жыл бұрын
It's NOT a better movie than Batman Returns!!!! No way, no way, no way!
@adamzanzie
@adamzanzie 9 жыл бұрын
***** Sure it's focused: It's about three lonely, wounded souls. Stilted? DeVito and Pfeiffer sure go to pretty deep places (Keaton is just Keaton of course, but then again, that's why he's awesome). Gross? You bet. But that only makes it way more visceral than Forever.
@ElBombastico883
@ElBombastico883 9 жыл бұрын
Batman Returns is not a Batman movie. Its your typical emo Burton crap that for some strange reason, has some guy in a batsuit in it for a couple minutes at a time.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 9 жыл бұрын
***** Batman Forever is a glossy piece of shit Hollywood Joel Schumaker candy flick with no soul. Batman Returns is a true work of art by a great filmmaker. It also captures Batman as a dark badass character far more than the colorful cartoonish crap than we see in Forever.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 9 жыл бұрын
***** Not so much for Burton but I respect the character of Batman as the dark vigilante so much to prefer Forever to Returns. That would be a slap in the face of everything I love about Batman. Hey maybe you prefer a gay colorful Batman. Schumaker would love you.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well again I prefer my vision of Batman to be dark and gothic and gritty. So making Penguin a mutant freak that kills, I had zero problems with. It's not how I would have done with the character but he was more intriguing than any villains in Forever. All Carey was doing as the Riddley was play his usual frantic self. And Tommy Lee was doing a bad Joker rip-off. As for Kilmer, he just didn't have the gravitas to pull it off. He was so stiff and had no personality as Wayne.
@TheRealBirdmann
@TheRealBirdmann 10 жыл бұрын
"Yet I do think it's better than the previous one, 'Batman Returns'"
@Ian-hj4yt
@Ian-hj4yt 3 жыл бұрын
Hell no
@coachjas4040
@coachjas4040 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Just like the terminator movies only 1 & 2 were significant. Until Nolan came around.
@MrBuch169169
@MrBuch169169 13 жыл бұрын
Nowadays I'm so incredibly used to superheroes being crossed with film noir that it actually surprised me to hear Ebert say that as if it were a neat idea.
@Fatpie42
@Fatpie42 11 жыл бұрын
Re-watched it recently and found Jim Carrey's performance painful. I remembered him being pretty good when I saw it at the cinema, but looking back on his performance now? Time has not been kind...
@LightFromADeadStar
@LightFromADeadStar 8 жыл бұрын
this will never be better than batman returns
@shanekorn3600
@shanekorn3600 8 жыл бұрын
shut up cinder......forevers better than penguins raising a human mongaloid baby......TOASSTY!!!!
@blendedbananas
@blendedbananas 8 жыл бұрын
Agree. I loved Catwoman. Pfeiffer ruled in that picture. I don't understand why the Batman movies had to have more than 1 villain. I think that was a mistake. The first movie just had the joker - enough movie time to build the story and characters.
@Patrick19833
@Patrick19833 8 жыл бұрын
How can Ebert like this more than the Burton's Batmans?
@Batmanbeyyond
@Batmanbeyyond 8 жыл бұрын
let's be honest batman returns was a bit down beat and it wasn't better than the 1989 batman film
@Patrick19833
@Patrick19833 8 жыл бұрын
demarcus pittman​​ I never said that it was better than the 1989 movie. I know it wasn't, but it was still much better than Batman Forever!
@Batmanbeyyond
@Batmanbeyyond 8 жыл бұрын
+Patrick Lange well despite the outrageous batman and Robin you give Joel some credit because unlike Tim burton he has read batman comics and batman forever is a very entertaining movie
@ubedaashraf6536
@ubedaashraf6536 5 жыл бұрын
I would pick Batman returns over Batman and robin
@ubedaashraf6536
@ubedaashraf6536 5 жыл бұрын
And Batman forever
@sha11235
@sha11235 6 жыл бұрын
I never cared for Chris O'Donnell as Robin.
@cashewpistachio1826
@cashewpistachio1826 4 жыл бұрын
Who gives a fuck?
@lw3646
@lw3646 3 жыл бұрын
So hard to do Robin well though, the 1960s version is stuck in pop culture and nobody wants to be a sidekick.
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 3 жыл бұрын
He was far too old for the role.
@ShyGuy83
@ShyGuy83 11 жыл бұрын
Batman Forever, as silly as some parts are, it's still a pretty enjoyable film to watch, in my opinion. I even love that song "Kiss From A Rose" too on the soundtrack.
@craigwilson3532
@craigwilson3532 10 ай бұрын
Me too, i remember as a kid kiss from a rose was the top song for a little bit
@mackenziegivens6061
@mackenziegivens6061 6 ай бұрын
Honestly who doesn't?
@gerardflynn6180
@gerardflynn6180 10 жыл бұрын
"Remember people, it's a CARTOON!''
@Moviefan2k4
@Moviefan2k4 5 жыл бұрын
If memory serves, that quote was used by Schumacher on the set of the sequel, "Batman & Robin"...not "Forever".
@geeked-outturtlesfan4288
@geeked-outturtlesfan4288 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest negativities about the film •Robin was too old. I don't want to hear about the age thing. Kids can be cast in these movies. Look at "Kick Ass" •The corniness started to creep into the film. This was the bad one liner's • Not enough of a backstory/history of Harvey Dent & Brice Wayne's friendship and what happens when Dent becomes Two Face.
@tthomaselli2
@tthomaselli2 13 жыл бұрын
Though it was in 'Batman Forever', I liked the fact that they finally put Robin in one of the movies.
@jayNicks10
@jayNicks10 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face very Joker-like. But just listen to the lines he has. How would you deliver those lines?
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 9 жыл бұрын
hey he signed the check
@ianward776
@ianward776 9 жыл бұрын
I was Supposed to See 'Batman Forever' in Theatres back in 1995 but did not I was Too Young
@xburk
@xburk 10 жыл бұрын
better than batman returns?! seriously wtf
@1f5sda
@1f5sda 7 жыл бұрын
Siskel and Ebert sometimes got on their high horse about certain films. If you know what I'm talking about.
@ivans.191
@ivans.191 7 жыл бұрын
I quite agree with'em. Batman Returns was over the top in many ways, while Forever was much more enjoyable and easy to watch
@fooglyoogly9556
@fooglyoogly9556 7 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you are secretly gay.
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 6 жыл бұрын
Well it'S true, i mean Batman may be gayer in this but they do get so many things right, like throwing criminals into the assylum, Batman doesn't kill and they dig deeper down into why Bruce Wayne became The Dark Knight.
@allengreene9954
@allengreene9954 5 жыл бұрын
navylaks2 That whole “Batman shouldn’t kill” crap is overrated............
@ScarletRaider513
@ScarletRaider513 13 жыл бұрын
@Emapten read the last line, Batman 1 is my favorite of all of them
@HenryBloggit
@HenryBloggit 5 ай бұрын
Ebert thought Batman Forever was better than Batman Returns? Tells you everything you need to know about that hack.
@patrickmichaellangan576
@patrickmichaellangan576 5 жыл бұрын
This one I clearly remember seeing more than the other Batman films released before or since Batman Forever. I liked it then and still do now. Just my opinion though.
@ThePoreproductions
@ThePoreproductions 12 жыл бұрын
Siskel says: "and as soon as it was over, it didn't mean anything." I bet that something he wouldn't say if he saw THE DARK KNIGHT or maybe THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.
@Cropsy25
@Cropsy25 12 жыл бұрын
batman forever is a fun movie, not as dark as some of the others and a little more kid friendly but still really fun and one of my personal favorites out of all the batman films
@PotterPointFilms
@PotterPointFilms 11 жыл бұрын
Forever was the first real live action Batman film I saw, after watching little bits of Animated Series at a very early age, I first watched Forever at the age of 4 and it further enhanced my love of Batman, it was my introduction to Jim Carrey and he's been my favourite actor ever since. On a side note, whereas the Burton films and the Nolan films are way better than Forever, I can honestly say that I still love it and consider it better than the shitbomb that is Batman & Robin!!!
@leonardhughes4521
@leonardhughes4521 2 жыл бұрын
With the two set batman forever and batman and Robin it's like having one good batman film and one lousy one.
@jack_meoff69
@jack_meoff69 7 жыл бұрын
two face isnt two face and the riddler isn't the riddler.
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 5 жыл бұрын
PEGASUS MASTER Two Face is just a lame Joker in this.
@connorhall08
@connorhall08 14 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite as a child and is still my favourite to this day
@exodia9817
@exodia9817 2 жыл бұрын
2:33 Was that over the top? I can never tell.
@Wadsy591
@Wadsy591 12 жыл бұрын
@SLPIFan I agree there entirely. Batman Returns was indeed very neat, but it was missing elements that made the original so interesting. Forever is up with the original in my opinion.
@Alex_DC413
@Alex_DC413 12 жыл бұрын
I had a very similar reaction to Superman Returns. I liked it, but I wasn't thinking about it much after I saw it.
@jeepthing98
@jeepthing98 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because it was terrible
@petersmithyy4556
@petersmithyy4556 5 ай бұрын
Its a popcorn flick that kids loved and still do. Me included.
@davebooshty299
@davebooshty299 5 жыл бұрын
The original comics Batman was "solo" before getting Robin.
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 5 жыл бұрын
Forever was certainly more ACCESSIBLE than Returns. For Batman or comic book fans it’s clearly not as good as that though, Returns has an incredible feel and music but does have its flaws - lack of Batman actually being in it for one. I much prefer Returns but Forever is a better popcorn flick for the casual audience.
@puppetmaster1011
@puppetmaster1011 14 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this movie as a kid and still do to this day. I will admit that it's definitely not the best in the series. The Dark Knight is the best in my opinion. I really enjoyed Jim Carrey's performance and all the other actors did well. The music was good and the comic book atmosphere I liked. Tim Burton did produce this film and he did give it the amount of character development a Batman film needs.
@mumkaimusic
@mumkaimusic 11 жыл бұрын
@2:14 what siskel states is my recollection (except a few) about every action movie ive seen in a looong while.
@athenasatanjesus
@athenasatanjesus 14 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite pre-2000 super hero movie.
@LilyGrace1990
@LilyGrace1990 12 жыл бұрын
I actually liked this one. I'm not a big comic book movie fan but I really enjoyed this movie. As a matter of fact, I tend to enjoy the ones people hate. Except Spiderman 3. I'm with the crowd on that one. But, back to this movie, I liked it a lot and I'd watch it again. But then again, I loved the 1960s TV show too...
@scottyunitedboy2925
@scottyunitedboy2925 Жыл бұрын
Batman Forever sets its stall out from the very opening shot- it's a bright, breezy, energetic film with the occasional dark moment and snappy dialogue. Producer Peter MacGregor-Scott said they wanted a more hip and happening film for the MTV generation and in that regard the film can be considered a success. In some ways, each of the Warner Bros first four Batman films seem to be a reaction against their predecessors - the 1989 film was deliberately trying to avoid the campiness of the TV series, Returns wanted to be more arty, Forever more lighter and energetic and then Batman & Robin was basically about selling toys. There's a very good film that exists as an extended cut somewhere- why Warners don't release it and make some more money for old rope is beyond me.
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 10 ай бұрын
"Very Good" is definitely wishful thinking. More like, a slightly more coherent, slightly more substantial film. The good version died when the suits at the WB decided that they didn't want Burton's vision.
@zombiefan011
@zombiefan011 13 жыл бұрын
@Mr1131988 no Robin Williams was originally cast as the Riddler and Michael Keaton was meant to come back as Batman but those both fell through and they were replaced by Val Kilmer and Jim Carrey
@ScarletRaider513
@ScarletRaider513 14 жыл бұрын
@Emapten read my comment again, Batman 1 was my favorite and best in particular to the franchise.
@marytate6637
@marytate6637 5 ай бұрын
I want to write that my name is Josh Tate and i'm writing that the year 2024 will be Batman's 85th anniversary year and 35th anniversary of Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film.
@metalmanvideos
@metalmanvideos 11 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this movie, and I'm not ashamed to say it. However, I do agree with Siskel; in that you don't really remember much after a few hours. However, if you're a little kid that's curious about Batman, and you're not ready for the dark stuff (Nolan & Burton), this would be a good intro to the Batman franchise. It introduced me to the Batman franchise, and even if I already saw films like Silence of the Lambs and The Terminator, I liked it, and I'll need to re-watch it in the future.
@soysoy98
@soysoy98 13 жыл бұрын
@thewarrior007 You can tell from all his reviews he would have loved them, especially Dark Knight.
@darkmindedsith
@darkmindedsith 11 жыл бұрын
I literally just farted
@hiattgrey9161
@hiattgrey9161 6 жыл бұрын
This is my fourth favorite Batman movie.
@firstname2022
@firstname2022 10 жыл бұрын
Val Kilmer was the best Bruce Wayne. He was excellent at showing what effect the superhero life was having on Bruce. A better Two-Face and Riddler and this would've been an awesome movie. The villains were too silly.
@ch2010ize
@ch2010ize 10 жыл бұрын
I've seen cardboard show more emotion than Val Kilmer in Batman Forever
@derajnitram1882
@derajnitram1882 9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say best, but I would say that he gets more hate for Batman Forever than is really deserved. I rank him as the third best onscreen Batman, as he did give the character some depth, in a film that had little in it. I still think Clooney was the worst all around Batman, even though his Bruce Wayne was ok.
@Moviefan2k4
@Moviefan2k4 5 жыл бұрын
When Bob Kane was alive, he said his favorite Batman was Michael Keaton, but his fave Bruce Wayne was Val Kilmer.
@filmneek
@filmneek 12 жыл бұрын
batman: 8/10 batman returns: 7/10 batman forever: 6/10 batman and robin: 2/10 batman begins: 9/10 the dark knight: 10/10 dark knight rises estimation score: 20/10
@alcarbo8613
@alcarbo8613 2 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight is perhaps the most overrated film in modern history
@ricardocantoral7672
@ricardocantoral7672 10 ай бұрын
​​@@alcarbo8613Yep. People call it flawless but it's silly and not credible from the beginning. Joker gets away with WAY too much and timing of his plans are so precise, so exact, the only way they would make sense is if the intended victims willing participated in those bombings.
@tthomaselli2
@tthomaselli2 12 жыл бұрын
@Devman60006 The creative genius of Joel Schumacher as pertains to the Bat-nipples, I take it?...
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it is, Returns felt like a stageplay that just had accidentally been recorded, and nothing added up + Burton got so many things wrong in that film. Batman Forever may be cheesy but it's definitely closer to the source material oh and Batman doesn't kill for once one very important thing about his ethics.
@movieman104
@movieman104 8 жыл бұрын
jim carrey was good in this might be worth watching cause of him as riddler! I think they meesed up on twoface though
@ImmortalfireTheMod
@ImmortalfireTheMod 12 жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey was just being Jim Carrey, not the Riddler. That was the main reason I wasn't too fond of this Bat film.
@randallguzik3764
@randallguzik3764 Жыл бұрын
Thing is there are lot of scenes that were cut and reassembled out of order that would have made it a better movie
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 11 жыл бұрын
But of course we had to wait until 2005 until we finally got somewhat of a real Batman movie, with batman being the main focus point!:). Let's hope that the next rendition will be R-rated.
@Linkzilla2000
@Linkzilla2000 12 жыл бұрын
@Kronicyumyum it's funny, because I though Val played Batman pretty well, but he didn't really play Bruce well
@gabbogabbo
@gabbogabbo 10 жыл бұрын
Batman returns is way better then this movie. But if you thought that this was bad. Batman and robin make this one look like an movie of the year contender.
@PurushaDesa
@PurushaDesa 14 жыл бұрын
@villeppi Yeah, I know, right? Returns is by far the best of those four films.
@zaneps151
@zaneps151 13 жыл бұрын
what ebert said about the batman movies missing the point is what makes nolan's batman movies that much better
@Fatpie42
@Fatpie42 11 жыл бұрын
Did you watch them recently before posting these scores? Just asking because having rewatched them all recently I was surprised to find that of the two worst ones ("Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin") I actually thought "Batman and Robin" was the better of those two. While Jim Carrey's painful performance just made me groan every time, I found Schwarzenegger's one-liners oddly appealing. There's something enjoyably naff about Batman and Robin while Batman Forever takes itself too seriously.
@filmneek
@filmneek 12 жыл бұрын
i regret to say, that you are right, even though it was a great movie, it waasnt as good as the dark knight
@Emapten
@Emapten 14 жыл бұрын
@ScarletRaider513 what about batman 1?
@STUMPYBOY1
@STUMPYBOY1 13 жыл бұрын
I REMEMBER AS A KID THAT I LOVED THIS MOVIE..I MEAN I WATCHED IT WHENEVER I COULD. I REALIZE NOW THAT IT JUST FIT THE WORLD BAK THEN. YEA WE NOW TALK ABOUT NOLANS BATMAN BUT THATS BECAUSE WE NOW SEE IT DONE IN A BETTER WAY, (IN AN ADULT WAY)
@kurvos
@kurvos 13 жыл бұрын
@anxresi I didn't say it's the most stupid thing a critic have said - I said it was the worst thing I MYSELF PERSONALLY have heard. I can claim that as much as I want.
@g2kmaster
@g2kmaster 12 жыл бұрын
People keep saying that Nolan was the first to go into the psychology of Batman. Wrong. Watch the deleted scenes on the BATMAN FOREVER blu-ray, Schumacher definitely was first to that trough, only too bad WB made Joel cut the film only to never let him release an alternate cut on the DVD re-release back in 2006.
@locutus94
@locutus94 11 жыл бұрын
I recently watched Batman and Batman Returns, so then I put Batman Forever in my BluRay Player (I have a set of all four which was given to me for X-Mas) and I could not even bring myself to press play! So yes, Batman Returns is a hell of a lot better than Forever!
@jessemoore7081
@jessemoore7081 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ebert overlooked the exploration of Bruce's character in the film. I think BF develops Batman/Bruce Wayne more so than either Keaton films.
@UnderdogMovies616
@UnderdogMovies616 11 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a film that actually has interest in and focus on the character of himself and not having almost all the time given to the villains than yes I can see why one would consider FOREVER to be better. (Personally, I like both for different reasons)
@GreatWestern175
@GreatWestern175 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Tim Burton's previous two Batman films, Batman Forever is colorful but isnt as dark and brooding as the previous films. It was the beginning of the end of the Batman franchise at the time
@puppetmaster1011
@puppetmaster1011 14 жыл бұрын
This is certainly not the best Batman movie ever made, but I did enjoy this one very much. The best one is The Dark Knight, in my opinion. I liked the comic book atmosphere, the action was good, the music was nice, and since Tim Burton produced this one, he did add the psychology of emoting with the characters despite the fact that this one is different from his films and Nolan's.
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 12 жыл бұрын
@SLPIFan "much better viewed as a Tim Burton movie," the perfect review in just seven words.
@Wadsy591
@Wadsy591 12 жыл бұрын
I really like Batman Forever. I may be one of theonly ones, but its cool. It has a great plot, great action, great villains, emotional times with Bruce Wayne, awesome funny scenes, a hot girl in the picture in Nicole Kidman. Disagree but this was my favorite of the non Christopher Nolan Batman films. I've just always considered this one to be quite entertaining. Val Kilmer was no Keaton, but he did the job well. Anyway, my rank of the six Batman films 1. TDK 2. BB 3. BF 4. B 5. BR 6. B&R
@colli_wolly
@colli_wolly 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with the both of them. Though it’s a pretty entertaining movie to watch, it really doesn’t leave much of an impact. Thankfully, Batman would get the his rightful justice on the big screen much later (NOT BATMAN AND ROBIN!!)
@TravisMackie12ft4
@TravisMackie12ft4 10 жыл бұрын
I always felt that the two villans were completely done wrong. The Riddler is suppose to be a kind of cocky smart ass, who is dressed in a nice green suit and tie... in this he's... well, Jim Carrey in pajamas. Two Face is suppose to have that really dark side, but also switch between good and bad because of his schizophrenia. Tommy Lee Jones, as much as I love the guy just played him like The Joker, no switching in between. If they played the charecters right, and that deleted scene wasn't..
@rocklover59
@rocklover59 11 жыл бұрын
completely agreed. I feel that tommy lee jones was just the wrong choice. he was just a case of getting a star to be in the movie. a darker actor would of been better. ive always felt mickey rourke could be a great two-face.
@APizzle90
@APizzle90 14 жыл бұрын
my favorite batman movie besides the dark night
@wendileona
@wendileona 13 жыл бұрын
As soon as Robin entered, it effed up the series. Val's Batman suit at the beginning was fantastic as was casting Val who also had a slight edge to his psych . That opening scened Batman look was simple, dark, agile, he was great. But then... midway, they fancy up the costume with all kinds of adornments and vents... take the edge out of it, then it become cheese. Ugh. Too many villains and characters.
@ZeldaEd123
@ZeldaEd123 14 жыл бұрын
2:00-2:06 Same can be said with Marvel's equvalent of The Dark Knight, Moon Knight.
@npatil85
@npatil85 3 жыл бұрын
Moon knight sucks
@tthomaselli2
@tthomaselli2 14 жыл бұрын
@CreepyBastard55 Compared to 'Batman & Robin', 'Batman Forever' was gold.; I recommend watching 'Batman Forever' over that, personally.
@movieman104
@movieman104 12 жыл бұрын
i liked jim carrey as the riddler! best part of movie by far is when he is destroying the batcave!
@KamuiMosir
@KamuiMosir 11 жыл бұрын
They're very different in their focus and theme but about the same level of meh imo. BR was dark and moody almost drowning out the campy, while BF was a day-glow action campy thing. I remember liking them both, but edged back to liking the Burton flick better in the end. But Batman Begins still stands out for me. Ra's Al Ghul effect I suppose.
@40Pacino
@40Pacino 13 жыл бұрын
The only thing I really liked about this movie was Val Kilmer. He and Christian Bale rank as my favorite actors to play Batman
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES 5 жыл бұрын
They were right about this movie not being good for kids I saw a mother and father leave with children
@likewhateva1
@likewhateva1 13 жыл бұрын
Anybody ever consider that Schmacher was working under the guidelines that he had to make a " kiddie " friendly Batman film for Warner Bros?? They told him to make a Batman film for children, and in that sense, it pretty much delivers on every level. He went way too far with Batman & Robin which was just a rushed and neon drenched mess, but Batman Forever is alot of fun. Drew Barrymore & Debi Mazar as " Sugar n Spice " ..yes please :) Nicole Kidman looked pretty hot too!
@maverickhunterdelta
@maverickhunterdelta 12 жыл бұрын
I SECOND THAT! I thought this was a decent attempt to tell and show Robin's origins in a live action movie kind of way. Least it was fun for a bat movie.... the only beef I had with it... was that Robin (in wearing his kickass costume) does not get any long fight scenes with batman... he just gets captured in the end and let his guard down.... Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggh.... >
@027220
@027220 13 жыл бұрын
2:30 - :35 he's supposed to be The Riddler.
@phantomspydj
@phantomspydj 11 жыл бұрын
I do like all these bat films Burton/Schmucker and the Nolan versions.
@majicweather4890
@majicweather4890 6 ай бұрын
I think Val Kilmer looks amazing in the batsuit. Definitely the coolest lookint Batman
@GrassValleyGreg
@GrassValleyGreg 11 жыл бұрын
I liked this just because I think they effectively got the TV Show feel for this movie- Carrey's Riddler isn't that far off of Frank Gorshin's. Two Face was a waste, though.
@Nummymuffincocobutter
@Nummymuffincocobutter 13 жыл бұрын
@Dparish24 Yes,he was.Eckhart seemed more believable and sinister to where as Tommy was being more cartoonish.I think Schumacher was trying to make the movie more appealing to kids as well as adults.To whereas Nolan made the characters more realistic..
@Xtos1989
@Xtos1989 13 жыл бұрын
it was much better than Shumachers second attempt. But the 1990's Batman films became all about the villains.
@Nummymuffincocobutter
@Nummymuffincocobutter 13 жыл бұрын
@TheStanbabe because of all the bright colors??
@exodia9817
@exodia9817 2 жыл бұрын
Comparison between Batman Forever and Batman Begins Your entrance was good, his was better. Difference; showmanship
@poopsniffer100
@poopsniffer100 5 жыл бұрын
These guys dropped the ball so many times! Hindsight has not been kind.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 11 жыл бұрын
Not one of my favorite of all the Batman pictures, but I give Val credit for doing Bruce/Batman justice. TLJ was pretty amusing at points and just get rid of Jim Carrey. A shame that Val has now let himself go.
@027220
@027220 13 жыл бұрын
:04 - :27 Michael's Batman would be too busy crime-fighting for this.
@filmneek
@filmneek 11 жыл бұрын
yer your right unfortunantly.. id probs give TDKR a 9/10
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