Siskel & Ebert - The Karate Kid Part II (1986)

[@reginaldinoenchillada3513]

These 2 together, they were the best. Rest in Peace Siskel and Ebert.

[@FireMadeFleshII]

"Mi-ya-Gi understand problem perfect." C'mon Roger Ebert, he even corrects Daniel in the film...TWICE

[@MovieLover1995]

Let's be fair here for a minute. The original Karate Kid will always be the best.

[@Dim4323]

Ok that your opinion but its still like a mediocre sports movie but it has a charm of its own. But i like part 2 because it expand story.

[@thekabn]

The Crane Kick will never be out done.

[@afranks8566]

Definitely but I always had a soft spot for part 2.

[@nealg2355]

The best around

[@JoeBuck207]

Karate Kid 2 was cringe worthy for Asains.

[@citygirl5705]

Karate Kid 2 was fucking great. And the new Cobra Kai series is phenomenal.

[@johnwilliamson2207]

Amazing when you consider that some forty years later Daniel and Chozen would become close as brothers.

[@matthewlawrence708]

Karate Kid was a masterpiece and the sequel was really good too.

[@DMac4214]

The original is a masterpiece. Part ll is good, Part lll is bad, The Next Karate Kid is awful, the 2010 remake was great.

[@zacktobin8026]

The way they are saying Miyagi is like nails on a chalkboard to my ears.

[@jfearless3420]

How do YOU pronounce it? My apologies. I responded before finishing the whole video. In the beginning the pronunciation was right. It wasnt until ebert began critiquing that they both started saying it wrong.

[@mcfry13]

It's funny because that was a running gag in the 1st movie about correcting the pronunciation of his last name. Was it really that hard to pronounce Miyagi in the 80s? Especially after 2 films, you'd think it'd be easy to remember.

[@jfearless3420]

@@mcfry13 right???

[@kylofabian4579]

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[@hassanhouston3803]

@Kylo Fabian Yea, I've been watching on kaldrostream for since december myself =)

[@andrewcutler1380]

“I’d like to see a movie called Meyahshi!” -Roger Ebert

[@DerekBoldiene360]

To be honest this is the best sequel movie I have ever seen. I love that it continued the story unlike The Karate Kid Part III. it did have a few schmaltzy moments though I was not as good as the first one. But to be fair it was a good sequel. I will the ending fight was the best in this then in all the other ones that Daniel was in.

[@blazed420dayz3]

I thought this was one of the best sequels as well. I love that they took us all to Okinawa. It was also great to see a lot of these characters reunite on Cobra Kai

[@thespaceram2879]

I like the whole trilogy. Even part 3. Which introduces Terry Silver and Mike Barnes.

[@DerekBoldiene360]

@@thespaceram2879 Cobra Kai was way better then The Karate Kid Part III.

[@JoeBuck207]

It was corny and cringe worthy.

[@Kruppt808]

​@@JoeBuck207correct

[@YD-uq5fi]

Young Chozen may have been a lame villain, but middle-aged Chozen is a fantastic protagonist.

[@suicidality2744]

I think the opposite is true. Chozen was Daniel's most skilled and dangerous opponent. He was menacing in KK 2. In Cobra Kai he's portrayed as comical although his showdown with Terry Silver was great.

[@youtubemember1115]

Chozen was a cliche villain in part II. Cobra kai has written him right

[@thespaceram2879]

He is as memorable as a villain too before he changed for the better.

[@sm5574]

Roger was looking forward to The Next Karate Kid.

[@peterkrug4124]

I wish the video didn't cut off midway through Eberts final comment.

[@thefonzkiss]

You keep for your collection. I know you like it.

[@neoanderson563]

You keep for your correction. I know you rike it.

[@captaincaveman2040]

Isn't it amazing how everybody in Okinawa speaks English?

[@linkbiff1054]

*Throws shirt to ground*

[@Peppers19781978]

LOL did Siskel actually say he wanted Mr. Myagi and Daniel's mother to get involved?

[@citygirl5705]

Siskel says a lot of stuff that makes no sense.

[@peterkrug4124]

@@citygirl5705 I think he did make a good point that it's a shame Daniels mom doesn't even appear at all here. (Also Miyagi and Ms. Larusso are close to the same age, so a romance between them wouldn't be a problem.)

[@moehio]

Involved in the film... not with each other.

[@jfearless3420]

When did he say that? Time please? Ok found it around 4:09.

[@jfearless3420]

@@moehio i think he meant with each other based on how he said it and also because miyagi was already involved in the movie.

[@kibagami74]

The villains just don't work in this film, everything else is lovely, Okinawa is a beautiful setting. The bad guys were just 2 dimensional mustache twirlers. What if there was a big Karate tournament in Okinawa, Daniel can get his fights in, you can have him be the outsider, some tensions because he's a gaijin and Miyagi gets some blowback for training the gaijin. All that's ok, but make it more of a character drama with growth. Daniel wouldn't even need to win the tournament, just be really good to earn respect. Sad how they just lost Daniel's Mom as a character and Elizabeth Shue's loss needed to be much better explained for the sake of the 1st film's integrity and for the romance with the Japanese girl to work better. Siskel and Ebert graded this one about right.

[@JoeBuck207]

It's written by a white guy 😂

[@bifftannen1598]

Seems like these guys didn't really watch it. No mention of the scene after Miyagi's dad dies & Daniel comforts him. Siskel seems like a jerk. And they both say Miyagi wrong

[@stephenosullivan9016]

What’s with Gene and his predictability comments? He said the same with the first Karate Kid! Guess what? In boxing and karate films, people are going to fight! By that measure Raging Bull was predictable! I didn’t know much about Jake Lamatta, but I watched the movie expecting him to be a great fighter but an asshole. Guess what? It was about a guy who was a great fighter but an asshole!! How predictable!!! Great movies rise above. It’s how you tell the story. btw, Rocky wasn’t as predictable as one might think...I expected him to win! Lol

[@jedijones]

How much more of the love story could the movie have? It seemed to be an even bigger part of the movie than the love story with Ali in part 1. The movie wasn't going to be a total drama with no fighting. It's a karate movie. You watch the scenes in this movie and you'd be hard-pressed to find an actual bad scene. There's a reason it was a major box office hit and placed in the top 5 for the year just like the original did.

[@youtubemember1115]

It was a box office hit because it was an anticipated sequel to the 1st & the peter cetera song. Movie was very cliche & disappointing

[@jedijones]

@@youtubemember1115 It was an excellent movie compared to the usual cheapo action franchises the '80s was putting out.

[@johnrife7134]

Dear Ebert, miag- "gee"

[@katemaloney4296]

Thank God that Fate has a great way of getting even so KKII was one of the highest grossing films of 1986 AND was one the top movie rentals. I love KK, but I love KKII because it has more heart--and a beautiful love theme.

[@Will-vj5bc]

Part 2 was always my favorite.

[@SN2903]

Part 1 is better but 2 has always been my fav

[@otheraccount736]

What about part 3 lol that’s my favourite

[@SN2903]

@@otheraccount736 part 3 is underrated but not as good as 1 or 2

[@otheraccount736]

@@SN2903 I personally did t like part 2 as much as three one is the best but I like 3 more than two

[@navylaks2]

Yeah, I like it too but the 3rd one was crap

[@EvaSlayAllDay334]

I’m genuinely confused: this movie is actually only really ABOUT Myagi. It takes us into his world, we meet characters that are new, a beautiful setting with great effects, and a deep connection that develops between Mr. Myagi and Daniel as his father passes away - creating symmetry with the characters since both have lost their fathers. This movie is very well fleshed out.

[@adamrobinette6832]

I thought this was a very good review of this movie and pretty spot on. Not 'bad' at all. But so much of the interpersonal relationship development was lost. Which was a shame, because everyone played their roles so well. I think the movie could have also done with Sato and Chozen showing getting a bit more at odds as the movie went on to lead to the storm scene, rather than just at the bar. Like Chozen and his men trashed Miyagi's Dad's dojo, which was also Sato's master. There should have been a scene between Sato and Chozen about that, to suggest Sato felt Chozen was creating too much collateral damage and not listening to Sato about how to draw Mr. Miyagi out. It still had heart though.

[@zeldak718]

Sometimes they pronounce Miyagi correct and others incorrect! Like WTF!! 🙄

[@nealg2355]

Lol even in the movie itself and Cobra Kai, some characters have used the wrong pronunciation

[@elw3300]

You’d think after Daniel was corrected in the first movie (“best movie of the year” Roger Ebert) they would say the name correctly

[@thespaceram2879]

Chosen was the most formidable opponent that Daniel faced. It was a real fight to the death. He wasn't a dumb villian. They missed the mark here. I like the whole trilogy. Even if they don't.

[@patrickmichael3384]

I think I remember seeing Part II before the original; which is superior. Also, Siskel’s idea of Miyagi as a movie would’ve been a better idea instead of the last 3 shitty sequels that came after Part II of the Karate Kid. The actor who played Chozen (the bad guy in Part II) now runs a Hawaiian restaurant down the freeway from me in Seattle.

[@jfearless3420]

The bad guy wasnt dumb! Sato and Chozen were boring and ridiculous??? Siskel was such an idiot! Daniel's mother was an extraordinary character????? WTF? She was okay. I think he just thought she was hot. Expand on Miyagi's father??? He was dying. The reason Miyagi went to Okinawa was because his father was very ill. How could they expand on that?

[@SG1Mitchell]

Well that's how it was written but even the act of dying has been stretched across entire movies before. We could have had more scenes and drama with the dad. Since we already see Miyagi as a father figure, putting him in the child role would have been interesting to explore

[@jfearless3420]

@@SG1Mitchell i just thought of something. Did miyagi ever mention his father was still alive in the first movie? I remember Daniel saying "You must have HAD some father, man." Miyagi just said "Aye." Im going to rewatch the movie.

[@jazzyjeff7431]

@@jfearless3420 That is a good point,i always thought Miyagi Implied his father had already passed,during the first movie,plus he's already pretty old by then.But i guess it was an interesting story line for part 2 to go to Okinawa.

[@johnreese3797]

@@jfearless3420 No, they never came right out and said he was dead but the dialogue in that scene implied that he was.

[@jfearless3420]

@@johnreese3797 miyagis father died which was why Sato gave Miyagi time to mourn.

[@sammykewlguy]

I never actually knew exactly how they felt about this film. Despite seeing reviews for 1 and 3, finding a review of 2 was eluding me. It looks like a spit vote but marginalized up and down. I kind of figured Ebert liked it more than Gene, though clearly I'm glad both saw the value in a rather mixed movie.

[@joeblough261]

One thing I didn't like, was Daniel being too much of an idiot too often, with some very stupid and one-dimensional lines. Yet Macchio can act, as we saw in #1, and in #2, the scene where he comforts Miyagi by telling him the story about his own father's death.

[@afranks8566]

"Daniel must fight a really dumb bad guy at the end of the film" heh, wait til he sees the guy in part 3!! 😆 And I cringe everytime Ebert says Miyagi's name wrong!!😬

[@jfearless3420]

I think Siskel was just racist. How was Johnny smarter than Chozen? I think it was because Chozen was Asian. Did you hear his response when Ebert told him Morita might be nominated for an Oscar for playing Miyagi in the first movie? Siskel said in a very condescending way "No way."

[@afranks8566]

@@jfearless3420 🤔 never thought about that but yea you kind of have a point. If anything, Chozen seemed to be the most cunning of all the villains!! Hopefully he wasn't a racist but now I'm tempted to look at some of his other movie reviews involving asians and minorities 🤔.

[@jfearless3420]

@@afranks8566 ill eat crow if im wrong. Sato was clearly smarter than Kreese and Chozen seemed smarter than Johnny. In fact, in Cobra Kai Chozen is definitely smarter than Johnny. For comedy they made Johnny a little dumber than how he was portrayed in the first KK movie. Yet Siskel refers to Sato and Chozen, as dumb, boring, and ridiculous. The only thing i can think of is that Sato and Chozen are Asian.

[@markv1274]

@@jfearless3420 No, Chozen was an idiot. He cheats people with rigged scales at the market, then when he's busted by Daniel, he makes out like it's Daniel's fault. Then he loses a heap of his uncle's money at the icebreaking debacle. Chozen was an embarrassment to his family. COBRA KAI is irrelevant to Siskel's review. It didn't exist in the '80s. Siskel was reviewing the characters based on how they appeared in THE KARATE KID PART II. If Siskel had a problem with Japanese and Asian folks generally, he wouldn't have spoken in such glowing terms about the performance of Pat Morita as Mister Miyagi. As for Siskel dismissing Morita's chances at an Oscar, that was, I believe, based on the fact that Morita was essentially a comedy guy for many years. It was difficult for Siskel to imagine Morita the comedian, as good as Morita was in a largely serious role in THE KARATE KID, being nominated for an Oscar. Yet Morita, playing against type, was indeed nominated for an Oscar. He didn't win, yet the bigger reward was that Mister Miyagi is one of the most beloved characters in the history of cinema. Winning awards is one thing, yet the biggest accolade is standing the test of time. Even if Siskel didn't think that Morita was Oscar worthy, he definitely saw something in the character as played by Morita.

[@jfearless3420]

@@markv1274 so Johnny in the first karate kid wasnt just as idiotic as Chozen? Come on.

[@youtubemember1115]

I wanted to see Daniel & Johnny & the cobra kai become friends to fight gang members in l.a. in part II. What we got was so boring & cliche

[@PATS06]

What was wrong with the end fight ? Ludicrous ?

[@RichV20]

Did Ebert suggest a spinoff film called "Meacheee" where Mr Miyagi and Daniel's Mom hook up? Hopefully this isnt reveled in Cobra Kai.

[@jackmonroe5531]

Did this guy just suggest that Mr. Miyagi hook up with Daniel's mom?!?!

[@keepcharlottecountygreen150]

I hate to say it, but they were right. Even as a kid, I was like, "They should have stopped at the first one." That said, no ridiculous sequels, no "Cobra Kai."

[@johnvem949]

4:09 WHAT A STUPID IDEA!

[@EmperorToast]

Siskel's "mhm" and "alright" as Ebert speaks seems disrespectful to me. Maybe it's just a pet peeve, but it comes off like he just wants him to hurry it along so he can talk.

[@ronaldshank7589]

These two were so far off, that they should've had their heads examined!!! This movie scored the highest at the Box Office of all four of the Karate Kid Franchise! Opinions from these two just stink, when it comes to trying to find some really nice things to say about this movie...which they seldom do here. These two, especially Gene Siskel, could be a couple of stuffed shirts sometimes...and this is living proof of that statement!

[@Vaderd2k926]

Mee Ya GEEE!!!

[@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697]

part 2 is great but I agree with gene not a big fan of the 3rd movie of the franchise trilogy movies but predictable and classic movies

[@commishguy]

I haven’t watched Siskel and Ebert in decades. I just started watching some reviews today. The last 3 reviews by Siskel have been Awful!!!! And how they mispronounce Miyagi, makes me wonder if they even watched the first two movies.

[@timothygrant7266]

I saw 1 & 2 in a theater. A disappointing sequel, but I like the song.

[@G.Martinez916]

They should make a Miyagi movie, that actor is dead now so it would probably have to be a young Miyagi that goes to war and his family dying in the american concentration camps

[@Dim4323]

I like it then the first because the original was a mediocre sports movie but like a retelling rocky. Part 2 i like it because it wasnt a retread And it fleash out the charecters, i wish Daniel didnt appear, if it was Myagi on his own it would stood out more.

[@nickb9718]

How was the original a medicore sports movie?

[@throckmortonsnephew6395]

Me - aa - GEE.

[@davelanger]

Did they even watch the movie? Miyagi's father wasn't really even in the movie, he was dying, and Sato was also Miyagi's ex-best friend he wasn't just some guy who "owned the town". And they can't even say Miyagi's name right. It's like they didn't even watch the movie or pay attention.

[@babybird871]

film is ok but Sato and his nephew are 2 of the worst performances by supporting actors I`ve ever seen in a major film..and part of the blame has to go to the director John G..their overacting and dialogue is cringe worthy...

[@Dim4323]

They are alright Santo is more a believeable villian becuase he hold a gruge on myagi years ago and myagi wanted peace But chozen he sees daniel and just wanted to beat the crap out of him for no reason.

[@babybird871]

I watched it again last night and no they`re horrible...it`s ludicrous he would hold a grudge like that for 40 years...his screams all his dialogue and his nephew has to use the word "coward" in every sentence...

[@captaincaveman2040]

Chozen and his laughing boys at a bunch of gutless punks and Sato sounds like he's got a truly bad case of hemorrhoids. "MIYAGY!!! I WILL FIGHT YOU BUT FIRST NEED PREPARATION H!!!!😡

[@thekabn]

Wrong

[@brianshoman1723]

@@babybird871 It's stylistic. The acting style of the Japanese characters goes back to traditions in Japanese cinema, like Kurosawa. I always thought the director was trying to blend these two styles into one movie, which is why I like this movie. Incidentally, I really don't like Part 3, too cartoonish and also too obviously a studio movie just to make more money.