SIX Biological Evidences for Creation - Pt.1

[@lisleigfried4660]

Tompkins has that gigachad energy

[@stanleychavez5790]

Thank God for true science 😂

[@marculatour6229]

God is like Harry Potter. He can conjure things up. It is the easiest thing in the world to conjure things up. Every God can do this. Otherwise we would call him a showman. I think the classification, evolutionists do, is wright. What do you think? Is it possible to believe in things who don't exist? Many stupid creationist children played with dinosaurs, but not all survived. God is as useful as a pimple on the face. However, apparently some of us are very proud of having a pimple on the face.

[@solaura6218]

Then you are older than I am. I remember the very day I was born 3.6 billion years ago. It was 31Aug3.6 billion years bc. That means you are about a billion years older than me. How are you doing. How are you vascularities? These young people these days just have no idea.

[@dancingnature]

Tompkins is not well versed in geology , paleontology or abiogenesis research . He can be ignored

[@teijaflink2226]

And only two brain cells.

[@douglasgraham2101]

I am a 76 year old man. When in high school we studied evolution one day and had to write a report for the next day. I copied from my Bible the days of creation. We had to stand before the class and read our report. After I read, the teacher, a baptist deacon ask me to bring him my paper. He stood a told the class to listen closely as he read my paper. He did a better job of reading than I did. When he finished he told the class that that's the way all things came to be. He told the class to forget our one day of study on evolution. I made one of the few one hundreds I ever made that day.

[@betsieswartz]

Yikes.

[@langre_2]

That is honestly so embarrassing

[@brianperkins-lt1sn]

Humanity has to run from a religious interpretation of reality

[@taylorthetunafish5737]

@douglasgraham2101 Not long ago people did the same with slavery; they said it's in the bible so it's right.

[@GaryMeadowsMusic]

My teacher sorta did the same thing, he said he had to teach millions of years, a one day thing, but he said he believed the Bible.

[@canadiankewldude]

*_The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:_* *_The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:_* *_The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace._* *_Numbers_* 6:24-26- *_KJB_*

[@vivienhall1468]

Why do you quote God with ancient language. When He gave us His word he gave it in the language of the time. Why don't you say "you" instead of "thee"?

[@kirkstickney7394]

@@vivienhall1468seriously???? To the original poster: Thank-you and may His peace be with you also!

[@melthomas6250]

I am 82 years old and have been a Cristian for 50 years. I barely made it out of high school to say I am not very smart. Started teaching children church and was teaching exactly what you are talking about. This is to say God through the Holy Spirit gave me the wisdom or knowledge that was way past my years . Praise Him.

[@WoWUndad]

Sad

[@VaughanMcCue]

I am sorry you "...barely made it out of high school..." and it explains why you have been taken in by this nonsense. You may have gained wisdom about some life experiences, but knowledge could come from enrolling in a basic course in biology at a non-Xian community college. Old dogs like us CAN learn new tricks. Of course, if you already know all there is to know, then education, for all wise guys, would be futile.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@WoWUndad It never has to stay that way.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

As soon as you hear Trey say "the science that confirms scripture" you have to laugh. There isn't any. How does science confirm that earth was created in 6 days? Show me the evidence. Show me peer-reviewed papers. Show me the science that confirms the creation of Adam, the result of an ancient Hebrew Golem spell. Show me the science that confirms there was a global flood. Show me the peer-reviewed papers, when there is evidence from 8 different scientific disciplines that it never happened. Show me the scientific evidence that people live to 600 years old like "Noah". Or 900, like "Methuselah". Show me scientific evidence of the "fountains of the deep" or "the firmament" or the "waters above the firmament". Show me how the YEC global flood model explains away the Heat Problem. Show me the scientific evidence that the bible is the inerrant word of god. Show me that it's not a load of mythology recycled from earlier cultures, specifically Mesopotamian, Zoroastrian and Hellenic, with a dash of ancient Hebrew for good measure. It is human story-telling, some of it at its worst. I like the message "love one another" . It's difficult to do but it's better than killing each other. But the message "love god and believe in vicarious redemption via hideous human sacrifice or burn in hell for eternity"? That doesn't seem so loving. It's more the anthropomorphic carrot and the stick writ large, wouldn't you say? But hey, show me the scientific evidence of the afterlife.

[@shiggydiggy2415]

⁠@@VaughanMcCueyour so called basic biology course funded by abusive health industries can’t be taken to the grave. God is eternal

[@kirkstickney7394]

As a young child who was a voracious reader-hungry for knowledge, I devoured every dinosaur book that I could find. I also had a mother that took my brother and I to Sunday School and church every Sunday and Bible School in the summer. It was in the 8th grade that it suddenly occurred to me that the two ways of explaining the origins of life could not be reconciled. I chose the truth and never looked back. I have been continually amazed at how much and how many times that “science” has let us down while God has ALWAYS been and continues to be faithful to His word. Thanks mom! And thank you to God for giving her to me….

[@sjl197]

So you chose to believe the flintstones rather than consensus of facts by the leading university professors, I see

[@katkit4281]

So how do creationists explain the fossil record?

[@nicolemauzard8923]

The flood

[@JM-wf6mv]

@@sjl197There’s many professors and scientists who were atheist at first then became Christians. When you learn science in school it kinda does make you think like an atheist because you believe there’s an scientific answer for everything but once you learn that there is dead ends to everything you’ll see how big of a miracle we truly are and how important everyone is on the world. I used to love biology and physics and still do and don’t get me wrong science has it’s place but at the same time it’s Man driven and can be wrong like it has been most the time. The only one who hasn’t been wrong and showed us the way was God, he created science and made it possible for us to learn and discover new things about ourselves and other living organisms. Gods creation us and the world around us has so much complexity to it and we are barely scratching the surface still. There are absolutely no contradictions to The Bible as well and all the teachings still hold up 2 thousands years later and will for eternity.

[@jonathanwhiteside816]

The god of this world has blinded them; "He gave them over to believe a lie."

[@michaelsburger665]

Lucifer was the god on earth, he sinned then Adam was made god on earth then he sinned and satan became the god of this world today he is still

[@charlescoryn9614]

@@michaelsburger665 ...... And you believe that nonsense? With not one iota of proof for Lucifer, nor for Adam or Satan, and you're saying Satan is a god of this world........I'm sure you have lots of proof for all that! Can you read?

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

@@charlescoryn9614 He's very wrong, but you're wrong too. Please read the Bible.

[@valeriehinkle8995]

​@@charlescoryn9614there's absolutely no proof of evolution (that's why it's called a theory) and yet you believe that.

[@charlescoryn9614]

@@valeriehinkle8995.... There is considerable proof of evolution if you were amenable to science and did some research. There is little to no proof of anything else........ Yes, evolution is both a fact and a theory.

[@TexasHoosier3118]

When I was a kid the Earth was only 1 billion years old. My goodness how time flies.

[@stevenhoffman5727]

When you don't have facts, move the goalposts to suit your presumptions.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

How the heck old are you? 🤣

[@007gracie]

😂 yes time is the “magic” ingredient lol that and all those missing “links”🙄

[@sanshameyer6063]

😂

[@DarrylSteele69]

when I was a kid, the universe was 10 billion yrs old, now its over 13+ byo with talks it is up near 26 byo. How time des fly

[@duaneswab3420]

"Given enough time, anything can happen" is a tragically flawed proposition.

[@007gracie]

Yeah it includes all the awful stuff as well but somehow we got here🤷🏼‍♀️ talk about wishful thinking

[@johncollins8304]

Anything would include fairies at the bottom of the garden. That is actually what multiverses would predict.

[@analieromero]

"Time" is a magic wand that could grant any scientist's/archeologist's wish.

[@toastle8005]

Including your halfway-evolved species being wiped out by a natural disaster and subsequent overpredation, or dying off in a few generations because it can’t regulate blood acidity or body temperature yet and it will take thousands of generations to do so, which it won’t make it past three generations without. But evolution KNEW it was going to become such a cool organism, which is why survival of the fittest doesn’t seem to apply to creatures with half-formed wings or homeostatic control or one of the specific hormonal regulators it needs to survive yet. No, they all developed into a perfectly balanced ecosystem despite any that evolved too early being able to knock the who,e thing out in a few generations of eating and breeding prolifically, and a freak weather event nearly endangering fully functioning species within our lifetimes. Time- the magic wand to wave at all my problems.

[@betsieswartz]

⁠@@analieromero”God” is a magic wand that could grant any fools/imbeciles wish.

[@howardlarsen2540]

Thanks. did not know there are 120 papers on soft tissue in Dino++ fossils.

[@revv45acp71]

You are a great host! The way you summarize and reiterate drives home the truth you and your guests share.

[@YECBIB]

Too much Fact momentum for God and Jesus than any evolution by ♾️

[@t.c.2776]

you're a ignorant as they are... they "proved" nothing... 1) certain evolutionary cycles have been physically proven to exist... that is just FACT... 2) GOD can do what HE wants, when HE wants... 3) Eternity has no Time and NO DAYS... time is a human creation to explain past, present, and future... the 7 "days" in the Bible could be 7 BILLION YEARS... GOD created the earth is 6 days (6 billion years) and rested on the 7th... GOD may have been "experimenting" and didn't create Human Man until recently but based on previous experiments... WE small minded humans have no clue to what GOD had in mind when HE started this planet...

[@davidabulafia7145]

God yes, Jesus no

[@philipseballos8892]

​@@davidabulafia7145We are saved because of God's Son, Jesus Christ.We are sooooo blessed

[@edbrackeen5979]

​@@davidabulafia7145there is no other name given among men whereby we must be saved, but the name of Jesus. Behold the hand, Behold the nail

[@davidkunze2770]

Please read John 1:1 and 2, then come back again if you want. Thanks

[@dagwould]

It would be great if you could prepare a PDF companion to each episode documenting the various references mentioned, and giving a 'point form' outline of the program. This could be downloaded from the description, with QR codes to link back to the video, the ICR website, shop, etc.

[@offthefront7537]

References, you're kidding right?

[@alienpov]

@@offthefront7537 I agree . But yes, if you are going to quote and reference 100's of things that you expect me to take as fact , I would like to go to the source myself before embracing anything these gentlemen proclaim.

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

Read the book: The Stairway to Life: An Origin of Life Realty Check by Han and Stadler

[@JN-Bellicose]

​@@Vernon-ChitlenI'm curious what you think about 500 million year old jellyfish found in the rock shale formations in Canada?

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

@@JN-Bellicose How do you know they are 500 million years old? Cambrian is a big problem for evolution. 20-35 major phyla appear with no transitions. Most all aquatic life being it was the original ocean floor, preflood. How do you explain 65 million year old, soft dinosaur tissue? Amber Ale, brewed from supposedly 45 million year old yeast? Over 500 species of living fossil specimens. Coelacanth, wollemi pine, horseshoe crab, starfish, mostly insects in amber, identical to existing species.

[@StanGraham1]

Ive been a follower of AIG since its founding but only recently found your podcasts, and I enjoy them immensely. I'd like to make just one little suggestion for an upgrade if I may. Consider adding muted horizontal lighting to the faces of both host and guest which will enable viewers to see the eyes as well as the nose and mouth. It's an inexpensive trick used on professional sets and it really works well. Thanks for considering this addition and may God continue to bless you and your ministry.

[@Bomtombadi1]

So you’ve followed 20+ years of misinformation? Not something to be proud of

[@betsieswartz]

Get well soon

[@daftwulli6145]

Genuinely curious, why do you enjoy being lied to ?? And i am not talking about this is a lie since I dont agree with their claims, not i am talking objectjive lies. Like them claiming science says x when in reality they say y. Or claiming science has not presented evidence for x when there is a whole truckload of evidence. Now ask yourseölf why they lie so much. If we where wrong they could tell you the truth and point out why what we are saying is false. Butj they have no argument against what science really says, so they create this whole fake version of scilencfe just to have something they can actually argue against. And you all just blindly believe it instead of checking what science actually says. It is truly sad how many people fall for this, just because they want to believe this

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

AIG = Getting paid to lie for a living!

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty The Bible is provable truth.

[@crocuscreekwoodworks]

This is awesome and needed. Explaining this to a non-believer would be tough or to get them to watch this and have an open mind about the Truth would even be more difficult. Many times, even real evidence is not enough to wake someone up to the truth. Let's pray God will move in the hearts of those that do not believe, and they come to belief in Jesus. Amen.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

There is no truth in what Tomkins is saying.

[@hyeminkwun9523]

When a car is manufactured, the parts are first made using already existing materials and then assembled. Once completed, the new car is 0 years old, although the materials used for parts may be thousands or millions years old. The carbon date does not mean the age of the Earth. God created the Earth using materials He created first and then assembling them to form the Earth. How could we tell the age of the Earth from some materials carbon dating? The creation story in Genesis was revealed by the Creator Himself and we MUST believe it, for God's words are Truth and He cannot say a false word.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@hyeminkwun9523 if the bible is the inerrant word of god, then he's cool with slavery and so was Jesus. Are you?

[@hyeminkwun9523]

@@jonathanrussell1140 What are you talking about? Which slavery? Are you talking about the slavery in old days? Is your question "Why God permits slavery'?

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@hyeminkwun9523he doesn't just permit it. The rules for slavery are written into the bible, which is the inerrant word of god, is it not?

[@FlowDeFlowDrainage]

This was an interesting Podcast I didn't know that soft tissue was so widely distributed in the geologic column. It would be nice if some sources could be linked in the description. I find in looking at the arguments for creation, most people are ignorant the science.They learn about evolution in school before they know much about biology so they have no idea what is being claimed. If one knows how complex living systems are it puts the claims of evolution into perspective. Sometimes simply describing the facts that are known about the complexity of life simplifies the discussion greatly. Before arguing with anyone about anything follow these simple rules. 1. Decide what your goal is. 2. Understand the limitations of your knowledge. 3. Define all your terms very carefully 4. Understand your argument 5. Be prepared to listen and respond to points 6. Decide in advance to have a respectful discussion or to end the discussion if this is not possible 7. Start by understanding where the other person is in their knowledge. Prompt them to summarise what they know about the subject and why. OK you are now ready to talk to someone. How to do you do that. 1. Come to terms with the person. That is, define carefully all the terms specific to your argument. Agree between you for the duration of your conversation what meanings will be used for those terms and stick to them. A huge number of arguments vanish because they are derived from a failure to agree on what terms mean. Once this is straightened out the disagreement vanishes. 2. If a new term arises in the discussion, stop and take the time to agree a definition. 3. Listen to the points that the other side makes and if you don't have a ready item admit it and go away and find out. It is more important to arrive at the truth than to win an argument.

[@robbaggett1127]

Is John Sandford a scientist or a novelist? Can you state his qualifications to make this study referenced in this video. Also links to the studies in Nature and Science in 2012. Thank you.

[@changstein]

It said he was a PhD geneticist in the first 30 seconds of the video

[@robbaggett1127]

@@changstein you are referencing Dr. Jeff Tompkins, the one being interviewed, and I am asking about John Sanford!

[@dusermiginte4647]

Well, he is clearly not a scientist..

[@F15CEAGLE1]

J.C. Sanford was a professor of genetics at Cornell University. Invented the "gene gun."

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

John Sandford is a bogus Scientist. His paper on Genetic Entropy is B.S. The easiest refutation to his "Genetic Entropy" claim is the persistence and flourishing of short-generation Time populations. If mutation accumulation were always a net deleterious process ending in extinction, then the populations with short generation times, like fruit flies and mice (which I used to breed), would have gone extinct long ago. Yet we NEVER see this happening in Nature. Why is that? Because the claims John Sanford makes are BOGUS!

[@gilesbbb]

This guy Tomkin's psychological projection is pretty awesome. His brass neck in accusing others of coming with a presupposition that causes them to ignore evidence is wild!!!

[@alltimeislikethepresent]

Right, everyone should hop onto your Darwin-cheerleader bandwagon and join in with your mindlessly calling your Darwinistspeak "evidence for" your Darwinistspeak. How shallow and self-defeating you have to be to be able to sit there claiming that you're not _presupposing_ when you call your cherished Darwinistspeak, _"evidence"!_

[@gilesbbb]

@alltimeislikethepresent I never claimed that. Read carefully. What I said was that Tomkins has a brass neck for accusing others of that fault.

[@alltimeislikethepresent]

@@gilesbbb_"I never claimed that. Read carefully. What I said was that Tomkins has a brass neck for accusing others of that fault."_ OK, so, you agree that you Darwin cheerleaders' presupposing that your Darwinistspeak is _evidence,_ is a fault? What's it to you if he's accusing you Darwin cheerleaders' of that fault, since, if he is doing so, he's right to do so? I mean, I looked up your "brass neck" idiom, and what's handed me is: _"a type of behavior where someone is extremely confident about their own actions but does not understand that their behavior is unacceptable to others."_ So, your gripe is that someone's doing what he is right to do is nevertheless somehow "unacceptable" to you?

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@alltimeislikethepresent " the science that confirms scripture" 😂😂😂😂😂 Why are these videos soooooo long????? They should all be over as soon as Trey says those words. 😂😂😂😂

[@wms72]

I wish you would put links to the studies cited below the video.

[@koltoncrane3099]

That’s true. Links and book recommendations are great. But google scholar can be helpful. Links to most academics sucks though. I lookup mushroom research and it’s honestly easier to find papers in Korea then in the U.S. online. The U.S. has papers but if you have BUY those tax funded papers. It’s BS! Like why are research papers that were paid for by taxes then letting schools force the public to buy those papers? It’s like wtfzzz?

[@wms72]

@@koltoncrane3099 I totally agree with you, but can't upvote because wt* zzzz offends God.

[@atheistangel007]

@@koltoncrane3099 "But google scholar can be helpful." Yes it can! But you will find exactly zero peer reviewed papers about "creationism" on there.

[@FESTV]

You forgot to say that peer reviewed will publish only if you agree with evolution . Thats how stupid your argument is. Church was also only peer review in middle ages@@atheistangel007

[@dusermiginte4647]

Lol

[@boatkid888]

In regards to the wooly mammoth, have you all read the exerts from Admiral Richard Birds expedition to the Antarctic?

[@virginian3390]

No, but I'll try to find that.

[@coppertopv365]

No, what about it?

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@coppertopv365 He had a bird brain and feet, but I don't think he had feathers.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@VaughanMcCuehe was regarded as a bit of a dinosaur in his day...

[@VaughanMcCue]

​@@jonathanrussell1140 that describes me perfectly.

[@cynic150]

Why don't they invite a biologist with opposing views on to debate this?

[@michaelsburger665]

they cannot because its all opinions from mankind not from God

[@cynic150]

@@michaelsburger665 Define God.

[@serg3209]

We don’t need to be presented with both sides here in a debate because the entire body of scientific literature will speak for itself as will the scriptures, anyone that debates without either one of those as a foundation is not intellectually honest, people try from an emotional perspective to create for themselves a god that better fits their worldview and that goes both for misogynists trying to twist the Bible to control and oppress women to lab coats and glasses that want to tell us they’ve disproven God or his word which they never have. My point, however, is that the opposing view from this one is taught to little kids in school and presented as fact, we already know what the arguments are for macro-evolution and they fall flat.

[@betsieswartz]

Because the biologist would show how dumb they are

[@cynic150]

@@serg3209 what arguments for macro-evolution fall flat?

[@garydonaghey2475]

Life begins with the Holy spirit 🙏

[@lewiscarey1593]

IAm THE WAY. THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!! It's Jesus, The Holy GHOST is here to VERIFY Christ is the Saviour of mankind!!😅

[@CyndiWatkins]

“If the Bible is wrong about the age of the earth, then who’s to say it’s not wrong about everything else?” Well, that’s a very good question. That’s worth spending a lot of time pondering . . .

[@brentjohnson9210]

It's one of those pondering things that will open your eyes to truth not revealed to everyone, or to arrogance believing you are powerful enough that what you imagine as the limits and rules are must what be the truth of the universe is.

[@CyndiWatkins]

@@brentjohnson9210 Exactly 😉

[@michaelsburger665]

the bible is not wrong it is all the opinions that people make that is wrong, the bible writes let God be true and every man be a lie

[@dond8559]

If scientists were wrong about the assumed fact that Dino tissue could not survive millions of years, then whose to say they are wrong about many, many more assumed facts ?

[@CyndiWatkins]

@@dond8559 of course, science is pretty clear and open about the fact that IT is evolving. ;)

[@pearls1626]

No one needs to be forced to believe in evolution. Everyone needs to have an open mind.

[@ruidacosta8432]

AN answer to your comment is that people need to go back to the origin of evolution when Charles Lyell mentioned why he came up with evolution: this to deceive Christians with this lie.

[@junacebedo888]

If a teacher or scientist suddenly goes inquiring into the possibility that Darwinism didn't happened; he or she would be cancelled instantly

[@TroyMichaelRenteria]

Thanks kind of the point. Satan has made it mandatory for all schools in the USA to teach it to young impressionable kids for 12 years into adulthood. 16 years if they continue into college. As parents that have to work. They aren't left with too many choices because they both work most likely so neither can home school and Christian private schools are too expensive also.

[@TroyMichaelRenteria]

Before I turned to Christ, I was led astray with this idea that death has always been and that there was no reason to need a savior because the story I was told in school said that death had always been and man was born into a world that was full of death already. But later into my years I came face to face with pure evil. But then I prayed and Jesus showed up. He didn't say anything but he didn't have to from there. I tried to look up the truth myself. What makes it worse is that I grew up with my grandma who took me to a Baptist Church all throughout high school and middle school. But like I said, we're only in church for 1 hour a week. Whereas we're in a school 5 days, 8 hours a day being taught whatever the state wants to teach the kids. 40 hours versus 1 hour makes it really hard to learn the truth when you only get about 1/40th of the time for truth in a week.

[@peteconrad2077]

If your mind is too open, people put rubbish in it, like ID And creationism.

[@krave07]

Keep up the good work ICR!

[@randallhansen9166]

Great video

[@TonyEnglandUK]

You must know that these - ahem - religious people are really just salesmen. If there weren't sales involved, these charlatans would dump their act in a heartbeat. Even his body language in this video is screaming _"I don't really believe this but I sure hope you do."_

[@flashkellish]

What "good work"? Not a single piece of "CR" has been accepted by science.

[@AtamMardes]

Modern Western laws are NOT based on Christians values, otherwise slavery would still be a moral practice. The Bible assumes slavery is a moral practice and it teaches how to buy, sell & beat the slaves. No Bible verse indicates slavery should be abolished.

[@zobbukit]

@@flashkellish...in this context “work” equals comedy.

[@JxT1957]

in ancient times people did not give complete listings of their family tree when giving their ancestry. in Mathew 1:1 for example the genealogy of Jesus is given as follows: "Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham". it is obvious that Jesus was not Abraham's grandson but that is in fact what the passage says. It is not an error, it is simply that genealogies were never written in the bible with the idea that it would be used to calculate time or establish chronology. Lineage is the only message of the biblical genealogies. It is totally obvious the bible does not include a number of historical events. The time between Malachi and Mathew is an obvious example etc. Scientific methods of dating and biblical methods of dating involve a large number of assumptions which make any attempt to give a biblical age to the creation or to Adam doomed to failure.

[@geoffers396]

Just found this channel! Could you pin some links to the articles that cite the secular journals that back up the points discussed please?

[@offthefront7537]

Don't hold your breath.

[@geoffers396]

@@offthefront7537 because?

[@alienpov]

ER Ah. I doubt that will happen so there goes that idea.

[@betsieswartz]

If they did you’d realize how BS this is.

[@geoffers396]

@@betsieswartz please explain, citing examples

[@kellyberggren2007]

I confess that even after 6,000 years or 5,000 after the flood ( not sure) that there is soft tissue. You'd think it would be decayed from then. So certainly billions of years soft tissue would be gone.

[@hotsaucedaddy6000]

Your argument is an argument from incredulity. You do not understand the science of how it could last so long so you dismiss it.

[@rolfme5499]

There never was a global flood! .

[@alltimeislikethepresent]

@@hotsaucedaddy6000 _"You do not understand the science of how it could last so long so you dismiss it."_ That's what Darwinistspeak says; that's not what science says. Your Darwinistspeak is not science, so it is useless for you to try to appeal to rationally-thinking people by asininely miscalling your Darwinistspeak, "science". "Billions of years" is a Darwinistspeak chant; it is not science. You can sit there miscalling your Darwinistspeak, "science", all you'd like. But what good do you imagine that's going to do for you beyond maybe getting high-fives from your fellow, God-hating Darwin cheerleaders (who are uniformly conditioned to playing the exact same Darwinistspeak language game you are conditioned to play)?

[@dusermiginte4647]

​@@alltimeislikethepresent Actually, Darwin and evolution IS science. The proof are there, you can google it or choose to ignore the evidence and just stay with faith.. Just like a flat earther...

[@alltimeislikethepresent]

@@dusermiginte4647 🦜says: _"Actually, Darwin and evolution IS science."_ LOL 🦜says: _"The proof are [sic] there, you can google it or choose to ignore the evidence and just stay with faith.."_ You don't even know what proof is. You don't even know what evidence is. You don't even know how to get grammatical number correct in your pathetic, English-butchering attempts to write a post.

[@gregoryshearsmith6774]

some 30+ years ago I attended BrierCrest Bible College where I watched a video put out by ICR. it was amazing and opened my eyes as a new believer ! Thank you for all your years of service ! I have to ask about the "degeneration" as they call it... you say the data is based on evolution, but have they queried with the same data based on creation. I ask if we are, according to scientists, living longer and are healthier than our predecessors, how does that equate to degenerating ?

[@michaelrobinson1059]

Just go and walk through a cemetery. Look at head stones. We don't live any longer. It's a skewed analysis because more people make it to old age. We have an easier life, better meds. But the old people in those days still lived 80 to 90. I do it every old cemetery I find. Don't take my word for it, go look.

[@joshuajoseph6132]

Not to mention we don't live as long as the old ones in the bible

[@jonathanrussell1140]

@@joshuajoseph6132 what evidence do we have that the "people" in the bible "lived longer"? How did they do it? Was it the Middle Eastern diet, was it the healthcare, was it the sanitation and improved knowledge of personal hygiene based on germ theory?

[@jonathanrussell1140]

@@michaelrobinson1059 and those represent the ones lucky enough to have the money to pay for expensive headstones. Now go and find some mass paupers graves...

[@johnhall1018]

This is ridiculous. I am thankful that the greatness of creation is not diminished by such a limited understanding.

[@kuyab4602]

Isaiah 43: 7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

[@rolfme5499]

The bible is a collection of fairy tales! The bible starts with lies and it does not get any better! .

[@dusermiginte4647]

Also check psalm 137:9

[@flashkellish]

That means nothing.

[@flashkellish]

@icxcnika1823 Says me...why should I, or anyone, care what the Bible says?

[@flashkellish]

@@dusermiginte4647 Why?

[@ErikSvansbo]

Very good! Big thank you for your work and God bless you.

[@darthtater4655]

I don’t understand how if they found whole red blood cells inside intact blood vessels in a t-Rex; why is the DNA shattered and destroyed? That doesn’t make logical sense to me.

[@anthonypolonkay2681]

Because DNA is a really fragile molecule. Which is why our living bodies have the enzymes and systems to activly detect damage, and fix it. When you die these detection, and repaire systems stop, and so the DNA is now subject to all the things that can wreak havoc on it. Oxygen will destroy it, water will destroy it. Methylation will destroy it. And he'll the very nuclear forces holding that atomic, and molecular bonds in the DNA together will eventually destroy it. That's why despite in tact cells being found, all the DNA therein is highly degraded abd fragmented.

[@wooddoc5956]

I congregate you on your intuition. It doesn't make sense and that is not what was found. I cringe at what these guys are willing to say to lead the believers on.

[@seanvogel8067]

Red blood cells don’t have a nucleus

[@toastle8005]

@@wooddoc5956 It’s not too far off, though. The actual discovery was alarming for the theory, as the DNA they did find on its fossil should have succumbed to half-life and degradation millions of years ago. The way they said it was not representative of the actual discovery, but the discovery still knocks a golfball-sized hole through ‘millions of years’, as we should not have found ANYTHING on those bones.

[@wooddoc5956]

Ha Ha. Congregate!

[@christopherdunn8343]

I am a skeptic. I do not believe any generalisations that are given unless I am also given reference to the actual papers talked about. I have searched for documentation of the ‘quotes’ from some of these creationist videos and found that most were taken out of context or grossly misinterpreted. I hope that they eventually learn to tell the truth.

[@junacebedo888]

Show where it was taken out of context or where it was grossly misinterpreted.

[@timhazeltine3256]

Bingo.

[@RealAaron317]

Do you want reference paper, then read the bible

[@christopherdunn8343]

@@RealAaron317 The bible is not a reference paper. It is a fairy story - badly written and of little use to society.

[@DrMontague]

How to stump creationists: If god is an intelligent creator of the universe then he must have designed you to crap out dirty filthy stinking turds, to have stinking farts, and sometime have stinking wet farts in public. Now evolution doesn't have such a problem, it is simply a product of nature not a designer.

[@SteveLanning1]

As to the comment about professors and scientists on college campuses not being able to acknowledge creationism, one reason may not be that they have their religion as evolutionists, but rather also because if they did confess, "I was wrong," is that their living comes from being an evolutionist in their profession as a scientist or professor. It's a simple matter of "I pay my mortgage by being an evolutionist!" Thought?

[@nightmarerex2035]

pride, when cats pride belongs in kitty litter box.

[@joshuakohlmann9731]

On the other hand, if they successfully _disproved_ the theory of evolution, they'd not only have more money than they knew what to do with, they would achieve historical immortality. They'd become more famous than Darwin!

[@mmaimmortals]

The indoctrination starts very early and is very strong in secular education. Not to mention entertainment industry. From Pre-K to Senior High, and every college class where the indoctrination can be fit in to class discussion and materials. I’ve seen it first hand in my own life and continue to see it. I once had a professor say in class that heliocentrism “proved God wrong”. And then went on to commit multiple logical fallacies when it was discussed. I also had a believing OT history instructor boldly say that she was fine with the Bible being allegorical in many points.

[@sids5002]

Churches are much richer than scientists. What evidence do you know of that refutes any part of The Theory of Evolution?

[@kgmail7364]

Bringing creation science onto the college campus would be about as destructive as bringing Biblical theology into a seminary (cemetery?) Creation science and Biblical teaching belong in the local church. I was raised with the evolutionary theory from an early age. Despite that, nature itself and an open mind taught me to keep searching. Seek and ye shall find…

[@JesusSavesJohn3verse16]

Thank you for the excellent video 😊 The Lord’s love + grace be with you Hope you are all well and resting in Jesus saving love + grace 😊 Blessings friends 😊

[@JN-Bellicose]

Comments like yours and videos like his, are exactly why people are leaving religion in droves. With more still choosing not to pursue religion or indoctrinate their children.

[@JesusSavesJohn3verse16]

@@JN-Bellicose Hi my friend 😊 hope your well 😊 If I may ask my friend, do you know of any hope beyond the grave, to share at people’s most desperate times, and of a comfort, grace, and peace, that nothing or no one can ever take away? Or of forgiveness, when we least deserve to be forgiven. Or a type of love, that TRULY is UNCONDITIONAL? I’m open to discussing ALL kinds of beliefs (I love too) but in some college’s, some teaches go out of their way to force other faiths, to deny, or they fail the class Without any fair discussion, or use of evidence or ACTUAL scientific method (subjective, personal opinion, NOT objective evidence based) And too many youths feel suicidal, because THEY are being indoctrinated that they are a clump of cells, an accident, and nothing more They just live, and die, having NO HOPE Would you agree with their methods, or do you think we should ALL be open, and willing to talk fairly, and gently with others? And at some point, interestingly, someone is indoctrinating, or sharing their reason why they feel their opinion is right It happens everywhere, even just switching on the tv 😅 (I believe this, and this is why you should) See what I mean 😅 But here’s the real question Would we really love Jesus, and care about being holy + pure, of heart AND mind, if no one even mentioned about God? Sadly, too many people have not always set the right example (like me) or people who never truly knew Jesus love + grace (I apologise for everyone) But instead of what do we think of people, who’s flawed, just like us What do we think of Jesus, and the example’s He set? And is it grounded in history, not based of a subjective, personal opinion, or feelings And are we prepared to be TRULY honest + open, regardless of personal feelings? Please feel free to share what you think we can do better to offer hope I’m always willing to learn, and openly, and honestly examine different claims, to find out, objectively, what IS true And if you WOULD like evidence (plenty of it) for a reason of hope, I’d be more than happy to share, my friend 😊 I have nothing but good intentions for you And I just want you to know how loved and cared for you are 😊 And that you CAN know of a comfort, hope + peace, that NOTHING can ever take away, even a hope beyond the grave, that is actually supported by evidence An atheist, amazingly said If I truly believe what I read in The Bible, that Jesus is The ONLY WAY to heaven How much do you have to hate someone, to NOT tell them Again, if you WOULD like evidence (plenty of it) for a reason of hope, I’d be more than happy to share, my friend 😊 Love + every blessings, my friend 😊

[@dusermiginte4647]

Its also why there is so much evil in the world today .

[@JesusSavesJohn3verse16]

@@dusermiginte4647 Hi my friend. Hope your well 😊 That would be religion, and people doing sinful things, NOT Jesus Interestingly, guess who Jesus rebuked more than anyone? Religious hypocrites, who never knew the Love of Jesus to begin with If we listened to Jesus, we would love our neighbour’s, and even our enemies, bringing an end to war Amazingly, those people groups, those fallen in sin When everyone was casting them out, Jesus was the only one who welcomed them, and shown SUCH compassion, mercies, Love + grace To such a depth, where hearts were changed, where religion could not Even non-believers acknowledged “Never has a man spoke like this” John chapter 6 verse 68-69 - Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God If I may share this with you, I hope it’s ok For years, what I thought was joy, was an empty joy Then I knew Jesus, and it became a fullness of joy And then, I knew God’s DEEP comfort, mercies, grace, Love, Hope, peace + Joy, that NOTHING can ever take away or extinguish And even in the darkest of times, His Light will ALWAYS shine through When we are at our most broken, and lowest state Jesus can, and WILL lift us up Turning our brokenness and shame, into something BEAUTIFUL, showing such grace + Love For anyone who will receive Him He will NEVER turn away anyone, who seeks Him He loves you SO MUCH, He gave His own life for you, so you can live + know eternal Life, Love, Joy + peace If you have any questions, concerns or doubts, I’m always happy to talk, anytime my friend 😊 Bless you’s so much, my dear friends 😊

[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@dusermiginte4647 LOL. There is less "evil" in secular countries then religious ones

[@joecaner]

That's the nature of religions. People who accept their religion absolutely are locked into that belief system, and seemed compelled to bend all observations to fit their narrative instead of letting observations inform their belief system. An example of this is those who dogmatically accept their scriptures as the only revealed truth.

[@UserRandJ]

That giant spaghetti monster religion- can they suggest they have the only revealed truth? So there is ancient pagan religions- practiced today, that are spoken of right through the bible. Which one is serving the creator? You do know there is a creator- abiogenesis is ot shown in science, they are just hoping it occured. Anyone can make up stories. Which stories can describe the bottom of the ocean before it was even known? Try the bible. Try Job 38:31. How did they know? J

[@jairpoppelwell2120]

The nature of people is to interpret information according to already accepted information. How else could it be? Western atheists bely their lack of self-awareness when they ascribe that phenomenon to other people and assume themselves above it. It's like when Dawkins wrote that book and never considered that his own ideas were memes subject to all faults he ascribed to ideas he was trying to call delusional. Self defeating, but not self aware.

[@F15CEAGLE1]

I realized in high school biology class that Darwin was schilling his granpappy Erasmus. Contemporaneously, you had Charles Lyell who was a rabid materialist. Methodological "naturalism" is anything but "natural." Oh yeah, I forgot the evolution thumper Huxley and his fake embryology!

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@UserRandJ The FS Monster told them.

[@peterbolden9386]

This is science that seems to be locked in their rigid belief systems not religion

[@Raven97]

When you mentioned that the academic atheists are having to rethink and come up with new ideas of how things came to be, it made me think of how the current space/astronomical "scientists" are currently doing the same thing with trying to figure out how the universe came to be or how old it "really" is.

[@julienhains9852]

we can calculate how old is the unirverse with the quantification of elements in the center of mass. every radioactive elements need to came from a supernova star or bigger to be created and that a proof of how old is the earth.

[@MikeMcG58]

Where can we access these articles?

[@nathancook2852]

Many people asking. It has been 4 months. Wonder why they didn't provide a link? Huh, they must have just forgotten.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

You would think they would put up their scientific evidence for peer review...

[@blueeyedsoulman]

The larger Dino's would not be able to breathe (and in some cases not even be able to lift their heads) because too much has changed in the atmosphere, magnetic poles etc.

[@christianwitness]

The bible says God will allow the people to believe a lie...

[@junacebedo888]

Freedom to choose to be loved or unloved.

[@betsieswartz]

The lie is creationism

[@juerbert1]

​@@betsieswartz, wrong !😮😢

[@betsieswartz]

@@juerbert1 what’s wrong with my truthful claim

[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@betsieswartz It is a claim and it's not truthful. Simples.

[@ByDesign333]

He was "a man of sorrow, and acquainted with grief."

[@debclarke1746]

Agree. Know of a place where I can pick up crab fossils every morning on a beach. 3 million years old apparently? Perfect crabs no evolving crabs.

[@nellosnook4454]

Excellent point! 👍

[@davejann]

@@nellosnook4454 No it’s not, if a creatures environment doesn’t change, creatures living in that environment don’t need to change. There are many creatures have remained the same for millennia.

[@csmoviles]

❤❤❤.thank you for calling out the lies

[@jimhughes1070]

And I learned a couple of things I didn't know!!👍😍

[@dusermiginte4647]

Its important to laugh yes .

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

I learned many things that I didn't need to know because they aren't true!

[@jimhughes1070]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty well thank God the almighty has chimed in! 😭... Thank you for your extensive research! 🙏🫤🤣 That's what we call blind faith in the common sense community 🥴😅

[@jimhughes1070]

@@travisbicklepopsicle I don't trust anyone... Only data and what I can see... Also, no self-respecting Christian would ever say that science should be avoided in deference to scripture... Perhaps your knowledge and understanding of history is limited... "Atheist scientists" routinely deny what is right in front of their faces... As a matter of "routine"!... All of their efforts are centered around proving to the masses that there is no Creator... They have succeeded for the most... Because people trust what they say without verifying what the research actually shows.... Case in point.. yourself... You watch creationist's videos.... Completely unaware that the research has been done by scientists! Mostly secular and atheist 🤣 Both sides are looking at the same evidence... Those that wish to keep having sex with their goat, and continue in their pedophile activities... choose to allow the twisted interpretation of the science wholeheartedly... Without ever actually "looking" at the research! 😭 Which could easily be remedied if the observer " grew a pair".. 👍...just as well.. Those without the strength to stand on their own couldn't serve God anyway... Most people are unaware that "judgment begins at the church"... But will quickly move on to the stubborn narcissist...

[@jimhughes1070]

@@dusermiginte4647 Laugh away... God is laughing.

[@scouterstu5856]

While in complete agreement with a Creator and the creation a common error is to misinterpret the so called six "days" of the Creation as 24 hour days. We're as the Bible makes it plain that until the creation of the sun and moon there was no solar, lunar or 24 hour "days".

[@krakoosh1]

The Bible makes it clear there was light before there was a sun and moon. Every single day of creation it says, and there was evening and morning. In heaven there is no sun yet everything is filled with light and there are no shadows. In Genesis 20 God clearly says, in 6 days He created the earth and everything in it. God, who can not lie, said that is how it was.

[@chelseyschimmelman9999]

I believe Jesus is coming very soon. 2032-2036

[@blakebunch4485]

YES, now I have no need to comment because someone else (you) understand. Not that we are right or wrong but at least we aren't alone here in our thinking or rationalization. Thanks

[@007gracie]

Maybe you’re assuming the 24hr day came AFTER the sun? God could’ve made the day then the sun to mark it, measure it & provide the light from then on. It’s on that long list: “so God what does this mean?!”

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Those who wrote Genesis didn't even know where the Sun goes at night and you want me to believe Genesis is a literal account?

[@alanschuetz9552]

We’re currently in the year 5873 AM based on the Enochian calendar. #QuestionEverything

[@jotunthe11thhyman65]

Thank you so much for posting this. This is super great!

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

I didn’t evolve from scum floating on the surface of the primeval sea. Praise the Lord that I am descended from a man and woman created in the image and likeness of The Living God!

[@sjl197]

So formed by some miraculous process from clay is it?

[@ThomasDowdall-mh1es]

​@@sjl197yes

[@ThomasDowdall-mh1es]

Everything you eat and drink comes from the clay is clay.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

@@sjl197 Friend, I simply cannot believe that something as complex as human beings evolved without the intervention of a Supreme Being. Some people believe that all creation stories are basically the same, but I disagree because a lot of pagan creation myths involve disgusting acts of violence and bestiality. The creation story of Genesis is the story of a loving God who created all types of living creatures and then crowned his achievement by making man in his own image and likeness. Scientists have thus far been able to find the intermediate fossils that would support the theory of evolution. This discussion will continue until we know one way or the other, but another thing that supports my belief in the personal Creator described in the Bible is the things that are going on in the world today. Ancient prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes, and I believe that the last time things got so bad God destroyed all humanity in the great Flood, only saving Noah and his family. I believe the days are coming when Jesus will return to the earth and destroy all God’s enemies, saving a remnant of the faithful who remain true to him until the very end. I believe that he will come just as he said, like a thief in the night, and that we all need to be prepared for his Second Coming. Friend, I hope that you will keep an open mind and keep watching videos like the ones put out by Creation Ministries International. Once Jesus returns it will be too late to try to turn to him for salvation. Peace be with you, Friend.

[@michaelszczys8316]

I noticed the discussion pretty much ended with " humans are getting genetically worse and worse, not better and better." So much for ' evolving up '. Whenever it comes to argument over life forming over millions and millions of years, it doesn't mean a thing to me as my study of science over the years has told me that the earth in anywhere near its present state of a life - supporting climate could not have gone much more than 50,000 years or so. Even just one million is out of the question, either the moon would be crashing into us or the sun would be 10 times the size. All these millions and billions are totally irrelevant.

[@nellosnook4454]

Fascinating insights! 👍 Thanks Michael!

[@Rizla-]

You are totally wrong! Humans are getting better and better with time. Just look at the world records being broken in sports. For example sprinting, humans are running faster and faster than ever before. In almost every single sport for power and strength, there are humans that are stronger and faster than 50 years ago.

[@ln5493]

@@Rizla- you are totally soooooo wrong! your 50 years is such a short time and only shows how modern diet and specialized improvement and focus in training can help humans restore some of what they've lost over thousands of years - how do i know - need proof, none of todays people become record breakers without modern elite training focus .... average joe breaks no physical records - you also wouldn't have a clue of the physical feats of more ancient times. Thankfully you can google this info from the bible to improve your understanding.... the bible shares great feats of strength, running vast distances in a day and David's men of renown with strength and superior stamina to slay 800 to 1000 of attacking enemies each and on their own,

[@saintsone7877]

@@Rizla- Yet scientists/doctors agree that the current generation will not live longer than their grandparents ergo "We ARE getting weaker". You cannot equate full-time professional athletes today with full time workers wo dabbled in sport in their spare time and say the human race is therefore getting stronger not weaker. Had our grandparents the technology that exists today, trained full - time etc they would have set records todays athletes would not match. Go to some museums and see the weapons our ancestors used. Take the English long bow as an example. A far greater number of men then used this bow than could use it today yet we have a population more than 100 times back then. Look at some swords used in the past one handed(according to books etc) yet the average man today could not use them as weapons even if we carried them in both hands. We are generally speaking far weaker than any generation preceding us strength wise. In fact the average woman back then had more strength than the average male today. Your statement has a sliver of truth if you compare the apples of the past with the oranges of today but comes apart if you were able to compare apples with apples. Of course professionals are usually better than amateurs and that remains true today. Compare todays professional with yesteryears professionals(if it were humanly possible) and there is little if any difference. We are NOT discussing athletes but the average human. Your argument is a strawman argument and has NO relevance to the discussion.

[@djb5320]

there's no such thing as 'evolving up' new traits passed from one generation to another can be worse for some conditions and better for others.

[@daftwulli6145]

You do realize that just like tree´s ice creates yearly layers and that we mader drils where we had a continuous 800000+ layera meaning the lowest layers are over 800.000 years old, and when we use the tools we learned from dendrochronology we can even find layers that are several millions of years old. I think the oldest was like 4.5 million years old. This is undeniable and a 6 year old can understand it.

[@alexbrandt8927]

800,000 layers doesn't equal 800,000 years. The lost squadron (planes lost in Greenland during WW2) was buried under 260+ feet of ice and hundreds of layers in around 70 years. Layers can form rapidly by thawing and refreezing several times in a single season

[@daftwulli6145]

@@alexbrandt8927 We can directly observe that one layer is one year. You can also easily see that the summer part has pollen while the winter part does not and other direct evidence that one layer represents 1 year. thawing and refreezing would not create a completely new layer, since this only happens in the summer, and we can still see okl this is the part of the layer with pollen, and the real growth happens in the winter. AS for your "evidence" you do realize that there is crevices you can fall into right ?? That is how you get below already existing layers. We also have situations where ice moves and burries stuff under it, to get under already existing layers. That way and using methods from tree dating we could find and identify even muich older layers going back up to 4.5 million years. The method is also pretty simple top understand. Not every layer is the same, for example you get summer that have morwe pollen then others, in some years you get more ice then in others etc. So you get a pattern kinda like a barcode that uniquely identifies where a set of layers comes from if you have enough layers in a row. That way we could over time identify older and older layers. The 800.000 was in areas where we had no or little movement in that time and thus the layers are still in the original order. But this is typical creationist, having no idea about how the method even works, or what exactly we are looking for, or how we meassure them, or any other details, and yet you think you know better then the experts because you thought of something you think experts doing this for a living overlooked. Did you really think experts did not think of such a basic fact ?? This is real science, where we only accept real evidence that has been fully thought out and tested. Not creationism where we take something and somehiowe shoehorn it into kinda soundiong like evidence till you trake a closer look at the details.

[@PoppinPsinceAD33]

Do you realize trees rings don’t always equal 1 per year Also observation of layers forming rapidly and layers forming slowly add nothing to your cause. Evens out honestly.

[@rogertheultimaterabbit]

you are ignoring that tree rings compare one to one with ice layers so they are yearly changes. @@alexbrandt8927

[@korvoth4269]

@@alexbrandt8927 ice layers are formed with each snowfall..compacting the ones beneath. Not from thawing. But you are correct...a layer is not a year...or any set timeframe for that matter. However...the layers in ice and earth can be dated by what they contain...and the earth is way older than 6000 years.

[@DocReasonable]

"I can understand why those fluent in the field of genetics would be convinced by the theory of universal descent; there is an impressive quantity and insightfulness in the work. It is a remarkably well-developed theory with plenty of evidence to support its cause" James Tour

[@Sam-fp8zm]

So even though they have dino DNA fragments they never bothered sequencing it, and publishing it? has even one study been published on it? that is shocking. i want my pet velociraptor !

[@kaineskeptic6484]

This vid is misleading, she didnt fin DNA, blood vessels or anything like he describes. She found evidence of these things, as in, fossilized patterns and some collagen chains. She did not find intact cells. Definitely did not find DNA.

[@LM-dr8dz]

Fragments.

[@koltoncrane3099]

No no no. Hahaha. A pet velociraptor made me think of Jurassic park. Just think the U.S. military spending billions instead of having robot dogs they have velociraptor that’s controlled through mind control. I wouldn’t put it past the government. They’d spend money on anything.

[@williammaxwell1919]

Recent research has determined that DNA has a half-life, and that it is virtually impossible to recreate life from the Jurasic or earlier periods

[@anthonypolonkay2681]

There's 2 issues. For one even more recently deposited DNA (say even 100 years ago under pristine conditions) is too old and will have undergone so much degradation that it will no longer give trust Worthy results. Aka. A bad sequence. And the DNA were finding inside Dino tissues are highly fragmented because even though not millions of years old, 4000, or so years is more than enough to wreak havoc on it). While there's actually plenty of it, the sequences are in chunks of about 6 to 12 base pairs in length. That kind of fragmented DNA can tell you pretty much nothing about the organism except that it obvious isn't millions of years old. Cause we'll there's be no base pairs left to find were that the case

[@nitetimejohnson]

I still remember the stardust theory for the moon. They changed that theory once it showed the Earth wasn't billions of years old.

[@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christ]

@@ji8044​​⁠, no it’s not. YHVH in Christ created everything in 6 days. The earth and everything on it is only 6000 years old, and we are at the end of the age, when Jesus will return and establish His Kingdom on the earth, and rule for the final thousand years, before He creates all things new. Did you even listen to the evidence presented? Obviously you didn’t.

[@UserRandJ]

@ji8044 was it always the same size? How did life emerge if the earth's axial tilt was not fixed? Without the moon earth would sway in and out of axial tilt and we would have cataclysmic conditions. Did it grow in size or was it always it's current size and proximity? Like you know. J

[@gilwg1233]

Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. Where those laws don't operate, there is no reality. It is said that Jesus walked on water, changed water into wine and raised the dead. These claimed miracles violate the laws of physics and the reality we live in. So we are either living in a reality that does not make sense or the stories about Jesus are wrong.

[@UserRandJ]

@gilwg1233 You can't discuss physical reality if you can't show abiogenesis occured / evidence please! And the laws of physics - are they eternal? Did they exist before matter?

[@gilwg1233]

@@UserRandJThe origin of life took place about four billion years ago, and it happened at a molecular level - meaning little or no fossil evidence remains. The laws of physics found in text books and that describes our present reality don't require the matter and eternal issues you raised, for them to work.

[@gerrymcerlean8432]

I have watched video on evolution. Usually they explain it without reference to the creationist view. Yet, when I watch a creationist explain his view he makes constant reference to why evolution is wrong but fails to convincingly explain why his way is the correct one.

[@Seeker118]

If you work on a car and you have two friends over one that works as a mechanic and the other delivers pizza would you listen to the mechanic because that’s his job or would you listen to the pizza guy because his work requires a car scientist don’t need to use creationist pov because they don’t need to force their own beliefs in they have evidence,studies and they review each other all the time while creationist only have because this book says so and all you’ve been doing was finding a way to to make that one book work it hasn’t

[@DrMontague]

If god is an intelligent creator of the universe then he must have designed you to crap out dirty stinking turds, to have stinking farts, and sometime have stinking wet farts in public. Now after you have a crap have a good look down the toilet at your excrement and think to yourself the intelligent designer designed you to do that. Now evolution doesn't have to justify your stinking turds it is simply a product of nature not a designer.

[@peteconrad2077]

Scientist don’t refer to the creationist view because it’s nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

[@ferratilis]

​@@Seeker118 Actually the creationist is a mechanic too, went to the same schools and learned the same subjects. The only difference is that a creationist would say that the car was designed by engineers with a purpose and design, while an evolutionist would claim that the car evolved by pure random chances out of nothing, with no purpose or design. Belive it or not, poof, it just happened, because other evolutionists mechanics said so.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Creationists have ZERO evidence for any of their claims. I've been asking for evidence for their claims for years and all I get is crickets ...

[@monicamcmain2442]

I appreciate you sharing this information. I’m looking forward to listening and learning more!

[@AtamMardes]

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire

[@edjo3430]

We all have religion. But not all of us have a relationship with Christ. He's isn't a religion, but a person.

[@daftwulli6145]

@@edjo3430 no we do not, atheism is not a religion justr like not collecting stamps is not a hobby

[@AtamMardes]

@@edjo3430 Unfortunately you are not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly. You're only parroting the religious bs that you have been fooled to believe & revere.

[@christophercoughlin9493]

Saying something is "dangerous" really reveals the Smithsonian belief system. They cannot deal with the idea of God creating this universe.

[@JaneH3675]

The foolishness of man's pride.

[@betsieswartz]

Because we actually have evidence for evolution.

[@christophercoughlin9493]

@@betsieswartz No, you have evidence that there is change within a species, which we already see. That's not evolution that's natural selection. We can all see that. passing it off as evolution is crap.There is no evidence for how things began and changed , there is only theory and conjecture passed off as truth you better believe or else.(not going along with the establishment means loss of funding, of course) And no real fossil record that connects the species, only reinforces the idea that species reproduced and changed according to their "kind". At no point was there a connection between monkeys and say, birds, except in the Wizard of Oz, which come to think of it is pretty close to what evolution proposes anyway.

[@alwilson3204]

The truth is always most dangerous to the liars in power at any given time.

[@alwilson3204]

@@betsieswartz The foolish conjectures and false theories of evolution have been continually disproven as being without actual solutions to our origins while meaningful aspects of creationism have grown exponentially in many areas, even in academia, for decades. Do some openminded study and research and discover what a miserable failure Darwin's idiotic simplicities have caused from one end of the spectrum to the other.

[@keithtruman8361]

Strange that he describes science as a religion that's locked in to their beliefs, then goes about making his point from a religious point of view locked in to his original belief. Seems like both are guilty of confirmation bias.

[@fayezfarhan4893]

Can you raise a constructive criticism on the point and details he mentioned? Counter his points with science, can you? Otherwise it's just talking.

[@keithtruman8361]

I did raise a constructive criticism. I'm pointing out the cognitive bias in the presentation. He basically discounts any evidence for an old Earth in favor of a young Earth while at the same time criticizing science for the same.

[@claytonthomas9862]

@@keithtruman8361 There is no empirical evidence to support an "old" earth. That's the point of this presentation. The "religious" point of view is supported by empirical evidence. The theory of evolution is exactly that...a theory, and a weak theory at that. It seems to be based on the ideology that if we believe something enough, we can manifest it into reality. Modern scientists, in the fields relating to evolution, seem to be really skilled at deduction, but not confirmation. The truth, no matter how uncomfortable or inconvenient, is something that can be recognized by, more or less, anyone, not just "expert" scientists.

[@007gracie]

Yes I think that’s the point? That evolutionists say it’s science yet ignore new discoveries. Hold fast to “theories” which are theories after all. Yet they often denigrate & mock bible beliefs… portray themselves as more “educated” & Christians as anti- science. A Christians view is that bible is true &, if something contradicts it, keep looking. We own it. And we keep looking for proof. The Bible is proving itself, evolution is falling apart.

[@cradleyheath1142]

The issue isn’t whether there is bias or not. If we are honest we will admit to having bias, it’s human nature, but that is not the issue here. What has ultimate authority for you, is it science or is it the Bible? Most importantly, what does all the available evidence point to when objectively and honestly scrutinised as best we can manage?

[@finky555]

Dr James Tour is not a specialist in origin of life, he says so himself. He is a critic of anyone that would say we have already created life in the lab or that says it will be done in a few years. His critique is always based only on science and never on God. I would be surprised if I don't see him in the comments saying this. Loving the show 😀

[@finky555]

@AnonYmous-yj9ib That's quite the leap there anon, if the chemistry does not work and it must, has nothing to do with God. The con is believing these science minstrels with there stories they think no one can understand and then along comes Dr Tour. I see you don't like that part of science.

[@daftwulli6145]

@@finky555 NO leap at all, real science requires that you publish your papers for peer review . Since his claims have not gone through peer review, and he does not even plan to have them go through peer review, he is missing a cruicial step in the scientific method, making it not truly science. But the nail in the coffin is that others have looked at his work, and have pointed out it is full of mistakes and inaccuracies, and not just that but these "mistakes" follow a pattern demonstrating that they are there on purpose to get to a specific answer. Which makes his work pseudoscience, and this is why he does not want to be peer reviewed. This is why we have peer review in the first place, to eliminate mistakes and confirm experiments, conclusions etc. since we should not just blindly trust any single person , always verify stuff.

[@finky555]

@@daftwulli6145 No, real science does not need to be peer reviewed but fake science does need to be exposed, especially when it expects my tax dollars to support it.

[@F15CEAGLE1]

@AnonYmous-yj9ibAuthority issues?

[@cuz_i_sedso9574]

@AnonYmous-yj9ib what are you saying? that we should dismiss organic chemistry from the study of abiogenesis?

[@jamesmaybury7452]

I’m glad you addressed the ‘fault tolerance’ of DNA. Looking macroscopically at the almost logarithmic rise in most diseases I think human DNA is heading towards catastrophic DNA failure. Once you have errors in the repair/error detection/error correction systems, there is no real way back. Obviously very hard to predict but most such systems, like rust in an old car, go from an increasing annoyance to catastrophic runaway failure and we seem to be heading for that reasonably fast.

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

Hi That’s right! Fallen creation has a use by date the algorythm of which was preset by YHWH! Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua returning soon to reign over His Creation from Jerusalem forever.

[@globalcoupledances]

@jamesmaybury7452 - creationists dogma: survival of the unfittest. Why are the healthy unmutated genes going extinct? And from LUCA until now humans and ancestors underwent mutations for 4 billion years

[@timothykeith1367]

I wish I had error correcting teeth. I've read that archeologists often find graves with skulls having perfect teeth, dental problems appear to have worsened in Medieval times, more so in certain populations - I believe Asians and Native Americans have more inherited dental problems. Evidence that we are not evolving to be better.

[@AtamMardes]

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire

[@globalcoupledances]

@AtamMardes - _ce fut le premier fripon qui rencontra un imbécile_ but it was not about religion

[@lionheart1]

What about the wagon wheel found by miners immersed in coal which could only mean that the wheel would be thousands of millions years old?

[@ruidacosta8432]

coal wasn't formed millions of years ago. Same applies to your wheel in coal whatever. Again humans weren't around 1000s of millions of years ago even with evolution buddy. Come on think before you type out comments.

[@analieromero]

The evidence is no more, flooded and destroyed.

[@toastle8005]

Then, becaus3 we know a wheel, let alone a wagon wheel, could not be billions (that’s what a thousand million is, by the way, keep that for future) of years old- that a WAGON WHEEL could not be billions of years old in coal- then isn’t the only solution that our theories on how old these things are have to be laughably incorrect? Think about what you have said. A billion year old wagon wheel logically HAS TO EXIST by our time frames, all because we’re too embarrassed to admit we might have gotten something wrong.

[@ruidacosta8432]

@@toastle8005 Srly? if you like to live in the fairy tale world then logically it has to be but only in that domain. pls go ask a fairy tale expert for your answer. Coal btw doesn't exist for millions of years but has been there for 4500 yrs. Wake pls grab a coffee and accept that fact. Christ Yeshua is the ONLY* Savior. not your fairy tale world which is very soon coming to end near you and far away also. Gday.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Because an animal made the wheel? Wait, you guys dont believe in dinosaurs either, right! 😂😂

[@nolanconnelly6821]

In one week was the beginning; and in one week shall be the ending: Even the time, times and half a time; plus a thousand two hundred and sixty days: THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND!!! SELAH!!!!!

[@awakeandinthelight660]

MARANATHA

[@007gracie]

All in a week of thousand years👏🏻

[@VaughanMcCue]

That's handy; I will bring in the laundry off the line.

[@ChrisM-ve6qc]

About the 16:35 point the Third Way website is mentioned. The website disavows assertions made in this video “It has come to our attention that THE THIRD WAY web site is wrongly being referenced by proponents of Intelligent Design and creationist ideas as support for their arguments. We intend to make it clear that the website and scientists listed on the web site do not support or subscribe to any proposals that resort to inscrutable divine forces or supernatural intervention, whether they are called Creationism, Intelligent Design, or anything else. ”

[@DPM917]

This just in: Scientists said they have revived worms buried in Siberian permafrost for 46,000 years. The half-dozen creatures, a type of nematode or roundworm, were last awake when Neanderthals and woolly mammoths roamed the Earth. They survived for millennia in permafrost by entering a state of suspended animation, according to a paper published Thursday in the journal PLOS Genetics. Genetic testing suggests the worms are a new and possibly extinct species, researchers said. Discuss.

[@johnglad5]

Mant reports of living toads dug up in very old geologic layers, 50k years old. Better conclusion buried during Noah's Flood.

[@DPM917]

@@johnglad5 The Bible says god killed every living thing that was not on the ark. These interesting creatures clearly weren’t dead. So the Bible lied? Or, the frogs were killed but they are supernatural beings who rose from the dead? Or, what happened to these creatures had nothing to do with a global flood.

[@johnglad5]

@DPM917 First , the Bible does not say every living thing not on the Ark was killed. But I can see how you might think that. Does that one thing give you cause to dismiss the entire Bible? Grace

[@DPM917]

@@johnglad5 How then do you interpret Genesis 6:17-“I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it.” Is this just metaphorical or do you take these passages literally? You could argue that god wasn’t referring to plants or bacteria that live in an oxygen free environment (anaerobic) because they don’t “breath.” But frogs and roundworms definitely breath. To answer your question, no.

[@johnglad5]

@@DPM917 Yes I was wrong. All the toads were killed. I'll have to look for another solution to the problem. God does not lie. I found the answer. Toads breath through their skin so all would not be killed. They would not be included in the breath of life creatures. Brings us back to the Bible. What is your answer to the toads buried deeply and still alive?

[@angelalewis3645]

The devolution of the human genome is a solid argument against evolution creating new species. If each generation loses and distorts a bit of code, how can code evolve and expand to create new species and forms of life?

[@peteconrad2077]

It isn’t. It’s noise and doesn’t stand up to a moment of intelligent scrutiny. Any change, including loss of genetic material can cause an improvement in survival.

[@nathancook2852]

There are many positive mutations in humans. Those who run this "honest" website keep deleting my post, but some of those include the ability for anyone over the age of 6 to process dairy, color vision, a smaller jaw, the reduction in the number of people with wisdom teeth in each progressive generation, certain people having resistance to diseases such as HIV, and the fact that all humans tails stop developing mid formation while in utero and then are reabsorbed into the existing cells to re used for something more productive. There is no devolution happening here.

[@jarredcarlson2479]

So dna changing isn’t a sign of evolution?!

[@bobwilkinson2008]

Go and read some science. You wouldn't then ask such a question

[@johnglad5]

​@@bobwilkinson2008The question by Angel was rhetorical and fact, by observation.

[@Christian_Prepper]

1:11 Wrong. The Hebrew word “yohm,” translated “day” in Genesis chapters 1 and 2, may have various meanings, different lengths of time and allows for periods of time longer than 24 hours. Notice each creative period in chapter 1 is referred to as an individual "day", but then in chapter 2 ALL six of those creative periods are combined as one "day". So although humans have only been around for a little more than 6 thousand years, the Earth and the universe may have been around much much longer. This is not a question of whether God had the power to do everything in just 6 literal 24 hr days, because no God-fearing person would object to the idea that he could have created everything in 6 literal seconds, but it is a question of scientific proof which this video explores so well. (Note: hmm 🤔 perhaps the 6 "yohms/days" WERE seconds!!! nah. 😂)

[@Hydroverse]

When "day" is combined with a number and the phrase "evening and morning", then it means an ordinary day. Also, it's said that Adam was made during the sixth day, but lived to be over 900yrs, so there's no ambiguity.

[@Oldbayisthebestseasoning]

I'm not an atheist but I'm not religious I am in my late teen years from the age of 3 to 11 I believe believed i believed in Christ. How was your Christian going to church every single weekend for eight years of my life with my grandparents almost never missed a weekend it had been years since I have turned my back onna I religion. Mainly because I grew up and started seeing how bad the world really was. But another reason of why I stop being a Christian was seeing a lot of the other Christians around me scalding people who weren't believers and threatening them and telling them that they will burn in hell and all of this other very nasty toxic stuff. But the biggest reason was that I went through very very bad times very often. I went through a lot of struggle in pain and suffering mentally and physically and I couldn't help but ask the question if he was even real? Because I felt that I didn't deserve any of the stuff I was going through. It wasn't fair. And another thing that seemed very evil and satanic about Christianity id that we are told that if we don't kneel down and serve this God that we don't even have proof of we don't know if any of it is real that we sell burn and health for eternity and we shall have eternal suffering. Why should anybody deserve that if they are just trying to live this little life that we have down on earth? Or in some theories earth is hell when we die. But lately I've been thinking alot about religion. I keep like thinking about death and burning eternally and it's like genuinely scaring me. Like I almost want to believe it's just very😊l hard to believe in something you can't see or talk to or have any proof of that is why I am here to seek answers maybe you walk and try to convince me. I feel like it's something that I should do on my own but I need a little Headstart. Anyways if you've read down this far thank you for reading my story yeah I'm gonna watch this video😊 (and if anything doesn't make sense or was Miss spelled I'm sorry but that's speak to text for you lol).

[@jakocarstens]

If you seek Him with all your heart you will find Him

[@adelinomorte7421]

***my story is not so dramatic as yours but have some identical points: 1- I was a catholic even before I was born and I grew up with my family very much traditionalist catholic, I am now 91 years old; I tried to be a nice catholic boy and surely I was, but as soon as I started to think by myself, so my struggle was that, I did not see applied whatever I´ve learned in the Sunday school applied by most people, also on my struggle also started, on my teens I chose science and technology for my career, it absorbed all my time so I pass the religious practice as join the Air Force at 18, only going on Sunday to mass whenever I was at home in respect to my family, as I saw the goodness of their faith. I never was in doubt from what I learned as a child, but I could not accept many things, I made questions to priests, to responsible people, participate in many retreats, and nothing; I left the church 7 times and I don not know if I will ever return (my age), my struggle ended just few years ago (2010) when I contacted the buddhist teachings, so I made my discovery as that, "I will never be a buddhist but never was otherwise", I learned many things like "compassion and acceptance" . Today I have no problem with any religion including my own the catholic, I understand why they are as they are so I accept. I am happy and no need any thing else, just living the present moment. My life lesson is: if I ever be in a confrontation, compassionately I accept it in a personal base, as I know that we all have to do our search from zero.**

[@marisakennedy777]

If you had enough fragmented DNA from a single dinosaur, you could maybe sequence it with as much DNA as possible, until you started to find repetition of the code enough to put it together. Like if you had a bunch of shredded up bibles, with a few chunks here and there, if you had enough chunks, you could maybe piece together the whole Bible. Guess it depends on just how fragmented it is.

[@brandybiscoff9685]

It sounds like that’s the point though, that the current samples of Dino DNA are too degraded, fragmented and incomplete to piece it together into any sort of completeness.

[@justsomeguy859]

At this point, there is so much evidence from so many fields of science that the earth is billions of years old, that believing in a young earth is more ridiculous than believing that the earth is flat or that the earth is the center of the solar system.

[@kgmail7364]

Please present your scientific evidence…the wizards of so-called Science are still looking for it.

[@Begin96054]

Great argument. There is also so much evidence for a young earth. What now?

[@justsomeguy859]

@@Begin96054 Like what? I’m not aware of any evidence for a young earth. I’ve heard a lot of apologists make up fake evidence, but I’ve never seen any valid evidence. Why don’t you present some of that evidence and we can try and figure out if it’s legitimate.

[@justsomeguy859]

@@Begin96054 You still looking for that evidence?

[@betsieswartz]

@@justsomeguy859 Yeah he’s still looking

[@capefox8321]

If the Universe was created only around 6,000 years ago, how would one explain the enormously complex geological formations of the Earth, with the myriad rock types and different rock strata, that obviously must have taken millions of years of erosion to look like they do today?

[@Bobbychildree]

You should study a book on hydrology to understand what effects a global flood would have on exactly your question. AIG has such a book.

[@JoseCuervo-yz1tx]

The Bible never mentions the universe. In the beginning GOD created the heavens and earth. The flood didn't create mountains. Sedimentary rock layers like the Grand Canyon are results from the world wide flood.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

​@@Bobbychildree Show me a horse, or dog, or cat, or any mammal, from the Cambrian Period and I will believe you.

[@dfpolitowski2]

Simple, Those formations can happen quickly under the right conditions. My guess is The Flood wasn't just a flood. The topography was changing under the flood waters, hills where formed like the hills of Pennsylvania and the landscape out west. This had to be the case because trees and living things are found in the coal thousands of feet underneath the hills or mountains. I conjecture that some or all Hills, (didn't check the bible on this) were not from the beginning part of the created world. Only after the flood did they appear. Think about if you were to by a shirt would they sell it to you with wrinkles? NO. Same with the earth. Hills may be pretty but they are seemingly unnatural pain to deal with. They make travel a problem and building too. Just my thoughts.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

@@dfpolitowski2 Except that we KNOW how the earth changes in great detail now ... and the evidence does not support your Bible story, unless it was a local Flood which it probably was. How many Animals did Noah have on the Ark?

[@Indefenseofthetruth]

As I was listening about the splashing of DNA I started to think, why is it that creatures do not evolve involve into different kinds? Have they discovered what the actual blockade or what is stopping? Creatures from changing from one species to another. I think that would be great proof for creation and would shut down evolution. What is that? Genetic factor do you know? Have they discovered it.

[@jluttjoh]

I wish there were links to some of these articles we can use. A lot is pay to see but worth it.

[@atheistangel007]

Dang it, they must have misplaced them...

[@peteconrad2077]

They can’t afford to. If they told you were they were they’d be quickly debunked.

[@muddbear6410]

What an absolutely foolish thing it is to try to use Biblical genealogies to date the earth. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife when these gentlemen say, "Scientists are so locked into their beliefs that it's like a religion! Crazy right?! Well THANKFULLY here's OUR beliefs that ARE LITERALLY OUR RELIGION." 😂

[@DocReasonable]

What do you call a creationist in a science lab? The Janitor.

[@darrelllogan1274]

At 6:30, listen to his own slip up contradiction. How can his fossil reference be millions of years old on his 6,000 year old planet?

[@YECBIB]

Doesn't the magnetic field die in 12 hundred years?

[@NumberSixAtTheVillage]

Not knowing anything about the magnetic field, I would have to say that's probably fairly accurate. The Hebrew year is something like 5783 -- so tack on 200 years give or take, and you come to 6000, and then you have the millennial reign, which neatly wraps it up to 7000

[@1Corinthians6Verses9thru11]

Also given a constant (assumed) rate of the recession, I'm pretty sure the moon (*if we hypothetically "went back" 10,000 supposed years) would actually be touching earth at that time.

[@ThatDoDoDoSong]

How can molten iron create a magnetic field 😂

[@koltoncrane3099]

That makes me think of the archaix channel. He talks about different timelines and record calendar systems. It’s fascinating. Makes more sense. He said like sitchin and others like Hancock use the sumerian word shar and assumes it means a year so kings lived like 40000 years or something when it should have been like 40000 days. One word changes everything in some of those old texts.

[@krakoosh1]

@@koltoncrane3099you mean UnchartedX?

[@MrJes3141]

So, anyone should be willing to entertain evidence for a theory different than evolution. But assuming evolution was replaced by something else, why must it necessarily follow that the universe and the earth couldn't have been created billions of years ago by a creator? Why does it have to be thousands?

[@johnwebber750]

Exactly. Even if there is proven evidence that the earth (universe!) is not billions of years old, therefore it IS 6,000 years old is NOT scientific at all. Put more real research and develop FALSIFIABLE hypothesis/theories on alternative dating techniques that indicate the 6,000 years, then there is credibility. IT IS NOT EASY TO BE SCIENTIFIC. Science does not start with certainty and succeed by just discrediting everything else (assumptions, premises, yes, but not certainties - even the nature of 'time' is subject to scrutiny in physics). After all not even all Christians are certain that it IS 6,000 years by simple scripture reading. And there are lots of non-Christians for whom 6,000 years are not relevant at all! The world is larger than Christians or even Abrahamaics...

[@truthbebold4009]

Most definitely it doesn't necessarily follow that the Creator couldn't have brought forth the universe and the Earth billions of years ago. Belief in a Creator is pretty common but the details regarding the Creator and the Creator's creation obviously vary quite a lot, even among those with a biblical worldview. I actually have an old/young Earth creation worldview. I see no problem interpreting the Genesis account to mean that the universe and the Earth have been in existence for billions of years, however, I strongly believe it was ordered and given plant, animal and human life approximately 6000 years ago. The six days of creation are about Earth, not about the universe. Additionally, is about an already existing Earth being taken from a Mars like state/condition to what we have now (or the perfection it had before sin and death entered in). The Genesis account gets dismissed by establishment science for a number of reasons; like the sun coming in the scene after plants have been formed. This might not make sense to the establishment but it is actually incredibly consistent with the entire Bible. For just a little teaser into the topic read the last two chapters of Revelation and you'll see what I mean. The Bible has two bookends, Genesis and Revelations, that help us to understand the beginning and the ending. If you read this and have questions/comments, I'd enjoy the dialog with you I'm sure 😊 Blessed day

[@alanpfeiffer9686]

@@truthbebold4009 then you have a problem as the sun,moon and universe were created on day 4.Tell me how long did it take Jesus to create wine at the wedding in Cana

[@truthbebold4009]

@@alanpfeiffer9686 So what day was the Earth created? The sun and moon were created on day four but were the stars and the universe? The mention of the stars on day four is possibly parenthetical. There is no direct mention of the stars being created on day four, the focus is the sun and moon. We must recognize that there are questions that arise no matter which view we hold.

[@alanpfeiffer9686]

@@truthbebold4009 nd God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth.” And it was so. 16God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. And He made the stars as well. 17God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth, 18to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. day 4 verse 15 of genesis chapter 1 .

[@bobwilkinson2008]

When someone says "well the flood did this...", you know there are lying.

[@razzlebazzle420]

I dunno man, if the younger Dryas ice age about 10k years ago, raised sea levels like Plato talks about, in places like Jericho, which is actually below sea level, and left that salty eye burning puddle in a limestone desert, I can see how people with an oral tradition for 7000 years and travelled by foot everywhere, might through a long game of apocalyptic telephone come to think that the entire world was flooded. Animals would obviously survive in higher ground, and are always quick to repopulate. Doesn't have to be wrong, per se, just simplified for narrative expedience.

[@madgnome0621]

So true! Kinda like when someone says that a huge explosion of gases created solid matter, then over time sludge formed and oozed. Sometime there after that ooze became some form of life that decided to evolve into other forms. Other forms that well so many still exist so, I’m guessing those are the retarded life forms that just couldn’t get with the others to evolve! Yeah so much more believable that nothing created EVERYTHING!

[@jasonpenn5476]

do these people even listen to what they say themselves? "Evolutionist believe that live magically began from nothing"... well that is exactly what they propose with God, that God created life magically from nothing!

[@brooksidejanna]

Thank you. HELPFUL for dialogue when opportunity.

[@dusermiginte4647]

😂😂😂

[@guitarforlife238]

When he said science is like a religion no matter how much evidence against them they still believe and that literally sums up creationism 😂😂😂

[@michaelfalsia6062]

😆 how does that work against creationism? 😅😅😅 Real genius. I'm sure you'll be the next Einstein. 😂😂😂

[@guitarforlife238]

@@michaelfalsia6062 uh idk maybe creationism is based off religion mostly a book written thousands of years ago that’s been translated poorly over and over again and no matter how much evidence proves you wrong you deny all of it because of your cult like beliefs in a an invisible man in the sky that there is absolutely zero proof exists Anyone who thinks the earth is 5,000 years old should be diagnosed with Down syndrome Actually that’s disrespectful for people with Down syndrome they’re smarter than you

[@kgmail7364]

Evidence? You’re as ignorant as the people you accuse of not having any. You is “THEM”! You have no scientific evidence and you should realize that. Sir Isaac Newton was a classic creationist and a true scientist. Unfortunately, today’s version of science is more accurately defined as intellectual lemmings chasing fame and adoration…and the coveted Nobel. Wow, how novel and courageous you are in your pursuit of “truth”. And who knows, maybe one day you’ll be the President of Stanford University? The sad fact is that most of the “scientific community” does not have the intellectual honesty or balls to take a stand against the academic nitwits that run the hamster wheel that you run on. It would mean that you’d have to admit that all that time and money you spent reading science mythology and getting those letters after your name was a waste…and perhaps even more difficult…admitting you were wrong? Perish the thought 😮

[@junacebedo888]

Biblical Creation is religion. Darwinism is about science and not religion. But Darwinists behaves and acts like cultists.

[@michaelfalsia6062]

Please explain a big bang? Give us the step by step details? What caused it, how did gravity come into being, how did atoms develop their structures, how did combinations of atoms come together such as the water molecule, etc? Science? Hardly! It's more like a desperate kind of faith. It's more like magic. 😆 🤣 😂 In the beginning was the big bang. 😆 🤣 😂. A self created universe is pure fantasy. The proof for big bang induced evolution is ZERO. Big Bsng? What a truly scientific term. 😆 🤣 😂

[@terbospeed]

Imagine living on a world where some people want to advance society and learn more, produce increasingly powerful tools and technology to do so, while there are others who want to live in the stone age through the power of confirmation bias.

[@Imjustsayin99]

You seem to be talking about advancement of society by intelligent forces and not miraculous accidents over a series of time producing then integrating complicated eyeballs, ears, brains, nerves, heart and vascular, bones, muscles, digestive organs, pulmonary function, equilibrium etc all apart from external intervention. These biological organs and functions are present in most species to varying degrees and yet no explanation of origin, integration or advancement. In other words, no evidence. Evolution is absolute nonsense. And yet we can’t even figure out how the pyramids were constructed with so much precision. Evolutionary theory has nothing to do with scientific advancement; it is nothing more than a religious belief based on faulty premises in order to remove God as Creator.

[@terbospeed]

​@@Imjustsayin99Where did you learn about this God? Someone told you right? It is amazing that we can use technology, the results of the scientific process, to discuss this. And that if you get sick you trust a doctor to heal you. You probably also drive a car. None of these things was possible or understood in the bronze ages when the source of your religion developed. You seem to want to go back to that time.

[@terbospeed]

And yes. We know how the pyramids were built, and when.

[@bwtv147]

@@terbospeed God confounded men’s languages to prevent Nimrod from building a tower to heaven.

[@Hydroverse]

To be fair, the Mayans and Egyptians had to be good architects to make what they did, and they were still religious. Given there are different types of intelligence, then a comparison of one's understanding of one subject to another isn't justified.

[@dna4paul]

That was an interesting intro about being locked into their preconceptions no matter what the evidence says. Galileo showed us that it’s OK to use evidence from creation to re-interpret or better interpret the Bible. If you use the same interpretation, tools, or principles for genesis one, and Joshua, one, you come up with the earth centered universe. The only the reason we believe the earth goes around the sun is because of the science not because of some new Bible interpretation. So I challenge everyone to be consistent and since the Bible is full of empirical observations, we can’t deny that part, but we can question our interpretation to both both not just one.

[@jairpoppelwell2120]

Question your view of history. Galileo's proofs are all incorrect, and Gallileo is not Copernicus. Gallileo, like Antoinette or Columbus, is a very publicly and loudly lied about figure by anti-Christ people. Ptolemys models were the best for a long time, Christians including the church adopted the Copernican model as proper proofs for it accumulated. This issue touched on theology very little, anti-Christ folks overstate the few 'Scriptural' arguments for Ptlomy when they were mostly an aside even in the Gallileo affair. The cult of ages is a very old religion, it's tied to the cult of Chaos or time (like the titan Chronos), and it represents a philosophy fundamentally antithetical to classical theism or in fact any concrete notion of truth. Remember that: when you're talking to a long ager you are almost certainly talking to someone who does not believe in objective truth. Their proofs are mainly bludgens of consensus tied to some actually quite weak hypotheticals. Ages of ages combined with chaos forming the ordered world would not be my #2 beleif about history, it's not even on the plausibility list to me. If not the Christian idea of history then the Vedic cycles or pure existentialism are things worth considering. Chaos into order due to luck proposed by people who don't even believe in truth is not. They are not scientists, but things using science as a skin-suit. This is why as their ideology grows science has left the places they take over. Since the 90s there has been a massive replication crisis in academia. This means science is not happening. I've been there while they fabricate data and spin just so stories about millions of years ago creatures that they know the diet of and the range of and how long it lived from a rather simple looking claw. It's just lying. It's not evidence in the classical sense. Their overwhelming evidence is the fact that they get many people, and a lot of powerful people, to lie along with them. And to them, that IS proof. Because they're relitivists, morals are dictated by the mob, truth is dictated by consensus. The basic philosophy of the Republican, the communist, the revolutionary, the humanist, is that humanity as an abstract is god, therefore humans agreeing is what makes truth. If you think you're talking to someone sensible in academia or whatever get down to the core of their moral philosophy, which is also their philosophy of truth. And something like this comes out. They can't articulate it cleanly but the functional essence of this is there. It's anti-Christ. Don't let the numbers of folk on the wide road convince you it's the right direction.

[@mrsatire9475]

His biggest criticism is that "it's like a religion" - lol

[@ryanvandy1615]

How ironic

[@shore-cityfilms]

Still true. It is

[@mrsatire9475]

@@shore-cityfilms Wow, how insulting - lol

[@shore-cityfilms]

@@mrsatire9475 lol, of course

[@Ozzyman200]

Can any creationist explain how creationism works please? How does a god create life from nothingness?

[@charrin9086]

@@Jewonastick You do realize that even the evolutionist believes that something came from nothing, right? From where did the matter come from, that exploded in the big bang theory? Poofism, right?

[@charrin9086]

You do realize that even the evolutionist believes that something came from nothing, right? From where did the matter come from, that exploded in the big bang theory? Poofism, right?

[@Hydroverse]

God didn't create life from nothing, but formed it from the ground. Whether one believes that or not requires to delve into what a person thinks God is and what reality is in order to understand the relationship between the two concerning what's possible.

[@Ozzyman200]

@@Hydroverse Well that depend on which of the many gods. No one seems to be able to explain how god managed it.

[@Hydroverse]

@@Ozzyman200 That's fair. Although I believe how things work can be better explained by first knowing what everything is. If a person is to accept God is omniscient, then an implication of omniscience is that God never discovers or forgets anything. That would have to mean what constitutes our reality was never truly created whether it be its colors, sounds, smells, textures, shapes, and so on. What a person makes of that would shape their definition of God since at the very least something like the color yellow is eternal within the thoughts of God, and is therefore never created as a reality that is truly separate from God.

[@Shamsi419]

Changing world view is nearly impossible.

[@somethingtojenga]

Anyone who isn't suspicious of a LITERAL RELIGION attempting to call science a 'religion' is either biased by the literal religion or brain-dead. They are seeing their entire world through the lens of their religion and everything that people are devoted to upholding is somehow a 'religion' to them. Here's an actual comparison of what religion HAS ALWAYS been and what science HAS ALWAYS BEEN: RELIGION: -has made people more gullible to believe things from a sole source that contains things that are factually not true or cannot be proven -creates mistrust of facts that challenge those beliefs -is typically for the benefit of its leaders and classes of people who benefit from a docile, manageable lower class -makes NO effort to confront bias or account for it, when it is known to MASSIVELY impact interpretations -bases ALL of its beliefs on the assumption that a certain book or books can be 100% factual without question -the absolute best it has is reliance on miracles, random events that nobody has any predictive power over SCIENCE: -has made people more critical to analyze reality and not jump to conclusions, and comes from a wide variety of sources -is typically for the benefit of ALL of society, and has improved everything from nutrition to sanitation to structural engineering to transportation to healthcare to communication to world peace to social relations to overall freedom and more accurately defining the differences between mental illness, criminal, and social justice -makes EVERY effort to confront bias and is FOUNDED on this principle, and extensively peer reviewed by any and all scientists working in that field and cross-examined by those in others -bases ALL of its beliefs on a rational interpretation of observed facts, and furthermore is confirmed in its beliefs by ACTUAL REAL WORLD RESULTS that are positively correlated -the absolute best it has are these results, which have made ALL of your lives better The thanks it gets for making KINGS out of even the working classes, who have world-class entertainment streaming to them, soft beds, clean toilets, clean water, nutrient-rich food, relatively inexpensive travel at lightning speeds, safe and healthy children, communication at faster than lightning speeds...? Being attacked for suggesting that we're a part of the tree of all life. Why? Because you're all insecure about your intelligence, and instead of solving that insecurity by pushing the boundaries of your intelligence, you attack people that do.

[@wbiro]

The science in question is far more solid than the speculations that oppose it. The question is, which views would you base your survival on, informed science by serious people or uninformed counter-speculations by fashionable fools?

[@andrewkrauth1966]

Just like with Covid?

[@nathancook2852]

@@andrewkrauth1966 COVID has nothing to do with this conversations. If you are tying to imply wrongdoing on the part of science, I don't think you want to get into that conversation. Christians have performed more genocide and made more attempts to hide science than you can even image.

[@michaelflagulant]

when armageddon comes, make sure you stick to your 🔫!? 😜

[@mandysaied]

How is one’s survival affected by what one’s belief around how long humans have existed for?

[@mandysaied]

@@philhart4849 you have the wrong perspective of God. He uses doctors & medicine. So when you pray for healing in your body He might not directly heal you.. that can happen too.. be He also works through other people. & the complexity of that is incomprehensible to the human mind. Without God science wouldn’t exist. Antibiotics wouldn’t exist.. nothing would.

[@michiganwoodsman2199]

Keep it up! Keep showing that Jssus is King!!!!!!

[@iainrae6159]

Our solar system was formed around 5 billion years ago and atoms in our bodies come from stars exploading from creating the heavier elements carbon, iron and more. If any early earth creationist can show otherwise then a nobel prize awaits.

[@danminer5343]

Creation scientists already have proven that the story of a "big bang" is a fiction story.

[@blackeyedturtle]

My high school biology teacher, played a taped seminar in which the scientists spoke about how the complete lack of transition fossils, was extremely bothersome to the Theory of Evolution. He also instructed us not to take notes, and that none of the material covered in that class would be on the final test. I have since become a believer, and have had some debates on the lack of transition fossils. Invariably those arguing that transition fossils exist, show fossils of turtles from the Triassic Period. It is very hard to convince them that what they are referring to does not qualify as a transition fossil. That what they are pointing to is in essence a soft shelled turtle, that does not show evolutional transition from one kind of creature to another kind of creature ie; fish to reptile. It may be a valid fossil, to show the adaptation within species, but anyone looking at the fossil would easily recognize it as a turtle. What the evolutionary community has done, to overcome today's lack of transition fossils, is to attempt to redefine the definition of what a transition fossil is. Today's students of evolutionary biology, believe that ancient fossils within a species of animal, that show that animals of that species have undergone changes, can be classified as transition fossils. They do not realize that the true definition of a transition fossil, will show how one kind of animal evolved into another kind of animal, such as a turtle with gills and fins demonstrating the transition of fish to reptile. They do not realize that a fossil of an ancient reptilian turtle, cannot be termed a transition fossil of today's current turtles which are still reptiles.

[@peteconrad2077]

Liar

[@leonarddiiorio4337]

All fossils are transitional. All plants and animals are transitional.

[@chrystallee5528]

Funny thing is the Bible actually explains everything that scientists need to know regarding Gods creation.

[@nellosnook4454]

Well-said! 👍 Man’s “science” is constantly discovering what God has already described in His Word.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Rubbish! Where is DNA in the Bible? Those who wrote Genesis didn't even know where the Sun goes at night and you want me to believe Genesis is a literal account?

[@robertrisner8829]

Geologist determined the age of the earth, not those who understand evolution. Evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis. If they cannot get these basic facts straight, why should anyone believing anything else?

[@kingyoung5228]

Evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis you heard a scientist or someone say that didn't understand what it really meant and ran with it while technically true it is also technically true that if there is no starting process to give way to life than you'd have nothing to evolve in the first place....DUH? So if you have a theory which asserts life all of life came from single-celled organisms billions of years ago you should have a process by which it would be viable for those single-celled organisms to evolve you know in order for your entire theory to start in the first place because it turns out if you don't have biological life to evolve you don't have evolution who would have thought. You're serious defending this half thought out "theory"?? 😂😂 No starting process means no evolution why would you believe naturalism is viable??

[@robertrisner8829]

Kingyoung: You really don't understand how science works, do you. Lack the ability to separate it into its various fields of study, into its individual components. While related, evolution and abiogenesis are two separate fields of study. Yes, it's a big "duh" that there has to be life before evolution can take place. I will stipulate to that. But that is not what the TOE says. Google and read the definition and share with us any you find that says it involves abiogenesis. I am defending a well-thought out theory that is supported by mountains of evidence that creationists ignore, misrepresent or flat out lie about. The entire field of biology makes no sense except through the eyes of evolution. Frankly, even though abiogenesis has not yet been fully explained, many of the steps that would be required for it to happen have been learned providing in itself more evidence of life rising spontaneously than any divine creation mythological story has produced. We can agree to disagree...but I'm right on this. @@kingyoung5228

[@FlowDeFlowDrainage]

Did you know that the age of fossils is determined by a process of circular reasoning. 1. Fossils are found in sedimentary rocks. These are rocks that are made up of particles of lots of different rocks so they can't be aged definitively. The way these rocks are aged is to determine the age of nearby igneous rocks. 2. When a fossil is found its age is assigned based on the estimated rock it is found in. 3. The age of a sedimentary rock is determined by the fossils that are found in it. This is circular reasoning and links Geology and Palaeontology in a way that does not allow the argument that one field is authoritative. I hope this helps you to understand better why you post contains an error. The second statement Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution is also a problem. If you don't know what first life was you cannot determine what evolution did (or if it did anything at all) If you don't know where you started from you cannot know how far you have travelled. Let us be honest, most of the theories of life are predicated on the belief that life can arise from random processes. If that is the claim the starting point is inseparable from the process.

[@timboslice980]

There’s an awesome debate you guys should watch. Gideon lazar Vs jimmy akin on is the earth old or young? Both creationists, but one takes a god guided evolutionary old earth and the other Gideon takes the classical view. They both use the best evidences and both did really well! Look for it, I’ll link the video as a reply to this hopefully it doesn’t get deleted. If so just look up jimmy akin vs Gideon lazar

[@johnalexir7634]

The young-earthers just never stop trying to 'prove' this. It's sad that they don't realize how embarrassing it is for them, when pretty much all scientific evidence is against it. And putting together genealogies and such from the bible doesn't cut it.

[@FranzBazar]

You clearly did not listen to the video, which is full of evidence

[@yogue3108]

There are no evidence. They just claim there are. But can you see any study reference ? Any link to a scientific paper ? No, they didn't show any. They just throw "some studies show that blablabla" and "it can't possibly be that blablabla" and you let them get away with it. @@FranzBazar

[@johnalexir7634]

@@FranzBazar Bad evidence doesn't count. If they were to bring on an objective, secular scientist in this field (not one that's too much in the other, anti-religious direction) it would be interesting to see how the dialogue would go. These things always seem convincing when only the side one likes is presented.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

@@FranzBazar Show me a horse, cat, dog, or any mammal, from the Cambrian Period and I will believe them.

[@Hydroverse]

​@@Peekaboo-KittyWhy would you expect to find those creatures in the Cambrian?

[@lynnasche5147]

4.5 billion is correct….what an insult to Mother Earth who has seen so much . Early earth was molten even…..no way it was magically poofed into existence 6,000 yrs ago . I live in Hawaii….anyone who lives here can see our rather slow basaltic lava flows took millions of years to build 30,000 foot mountains from the ocean floor . Our oldest island, Kauai is 5.5 million !

[@IeatBeef4ever]

If earth was molten, where did the water come from? There is no Mother Earth, there is only one creator and that is the Great I am, Mt. Saint Helen’s in Washington carved out massive canyons and completely changed the landscape, redirected rivers in just a couple of seconds. It doesn’t take millions of years to make an island, just as we see island being formed today

[@leonarddiiorio4337]

@@lynnasche5147 Hawaii is solid proof of an old earth. We can actually trace the islands march and see how long erosion takes to grind mountains level with the ocean.

[@MrWeezer55]

It's billions, not millions. There is no evidence that supports creationism.

[@thaddeusramos3543]

Then why did ASTRONOMERS named our planets : Mars, Venus, Jupiter, Mercury , Neptune all after Roman gods and goddesses? And why did NASA named the US rockets , Apollo 1-17, after GREEK god, Apollo? And why did the GREEKS named Athens after Greek goddess, Athena?

[@MrWeezer55]

What does this have to do with the age of the Earth?@@thaddeusramos3543

[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@thaddeusramos3543 Seriously?

[@thaddeusramos3543]

@@bobwilkinson2008 Yes, seriously!

[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@thaddeusramos3543 Man created all these gods and named the planets after them. What's so puzzling? What is puzzling is that some people still think some of those gods exist.

[@Kendro311]

With the discovery of Gobekli Tepe which is a buried city archaeologists found and dates to about 12,000 years ago. I believe we were created by God, but that does leave me scratching my head.

[@Hydroverse]

That would assume the ratio of Carbon 14 to Carbon 12 hasn't changed all that much, which isn't true. An Ice Age would mean less vegetation in higher latitudes, and that means less radioactive carbon is being absorbed by said plants. Then there are volcanic eruptions that can cause the C12 to C14 ratio to change. There's also the melting of glacial ice that would allow for the oceans to absorb more carbon dioxide, while new forests grow in their place to take in more carbon.

[@vanessaverner8480]

There’s more written records that are over 6,000 years old. Shh. That hurts these church goers feelings.

[@ianmatthew5824]

Yea you two sit there in your little studio with no one to contradict your rubbish.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

"The science that confirms scripture". Why are these videos soooooo loooooooooooonggggg?

[@jonathanrussell1140]

Creation scientists... Because they cant get proper jobs. 😂😂😂😂