Skarsnik Rework + Greenskin Patch 6.0 FLC Update

[@Bestien]

The age of men is over. The time of the Orc has begun

[@Oglan29]

DA TIME OF GOBBOZ YOU ZOGGIN GIT!!!

[@draugr121]

Being my most played faction from WH2 and my third favorite race i am pretty excited to play them!

[@bjorn-falkoandreas9472]

I was so hoping that going full squig was going to be even better when we get a big one. They went even further. I am so happy I think I will start with Skarsnik. Unironically. They are such good boys.

[@CH-ml4rz]

Excited for next Greenskinz campaign!

[@gobbogirl713]

The thing with the unstoppable chopper ability that black orcs with greataxes have is that you aren't supposed to use it all the time. It's more ideal for taking on single entity units like big monsters where your melee defense really isn't gonna help much anyway. It's also good for your initial charge into an enemy unit. Just turn it on before you attack, get some extra damage in then turn it off.

[@colonelbbq]

enticity made a video showing how bad untopable choppa is, it is good for the initial charge? no your black orcs will instantly go half health. -24 defense means they only have 8 defense and their frontline models die instantly so they cannot even do damage because they die so fast

[@Soul7k]

Not a big fan of the nerf to his cost reduction when he can only use goblins. The whole point of him is to spam.

[@SirHector1999]

I'm going to miss the goblin king

[@koenvliet]

Great vid! Subscribed!

[@cango8415]

Never finished a greenskin campaign and i ll say squig army looks fun. Definity ll try that. I like how ca sees players likes themed armies so they double down on it. Good changes

[@TheChefEgg]

Anything new on Grimgor? i also noticed you can get Black Orcs on tier 3 now

[@fcon2123]

From what I understand, he and Azhag kinda got shafted.

[@lilveeman]

Can you show us the traits/skill tree for the new Night Goblin hero please?

[@D-JR]

Upkeep changes are actually nerf, with new DLC it now affects Colossus Squig and Squig herds, but Squig Hoppas and following same logic Mangler Squig already had -50% upkeep because it's the Night gobbo atop the squig that counted towards discount.

[@jtrain9926]

Eh, when has money ever been a concern for greenskin campaigns?

[@bacchus8081]

@@jtrain9926 With the gold building now being 1K instead of 250 I wouldn't yell that too loudly.

[@Halexar]

Man, Greenskins were already a clear A-tier faction since their last rework with Grom's update. But now they might just be one my top 3s.

[@Ratt611]

Night gobbo theme looks so amazing rn.

[@gatzalask7592]

I find it funny how the strongest units of greenskins tend to be the goblin ones xD

[@GFCBlah]

do mangla squigs take 2 turns to recruit? If so at the start going for them in the first few turns will 100% be bait and honestly the change to -20% for goblins and squigs instead of 40% for just goblins is a nerf, later on money isnt a problem so the upkeep barely matters, and early on spamming goblin stacks to get like 3 20 stacks as you triggered a waagh was so silly, will be harder to sustain the same amount of pressure early on with that change. Pretty sure with these changes as a faction he is weaker, or if not weaker definitely slower. Other than that honestly silly how they are t2 with how they are performing, expected them to be t4

[@alirezarezaei2976]

Nice addition to Skarsnik but the real winner is still the biggest and the fattest goblin ever lived the Paunch With all of the buffs from his cauldron I think these new units would be ultra chads

[@lilveeman]

What buffs he give to squigs?

[@alirezarezaei2976]

@@lilveeman Speed, Charge bonus, on top of what night goblin big boss can provide and also what skarsnik can add to it by confederation

[@dust7001]

Skarsnik used to be one of my favorite campaigns. Now... I don't even want to play him.... I personally considered him to be one of the best Lords in the game before the change. I see most of the changes as nerfs. The tech trees and scrap changes are great though.

[@IIIIIIllllllllllllllllllllll]

Haven't gotten around to TW:W3 yet - but is the UI fixed now or is it mods?

[@poyloos4834]

The game is now definitively better than warhammer 2 in nearly every matter. Which was not the case on 3’s release, but at this point just the sheer quality of life changes are enough to justify getting 3.

[@NyJoanzy]

I would have preferred if Skar just had easier access of gobbos in the WHAAAA pool than giving him more accessible orcs. Goblin mode is a way of life.

[@2prize]

Thanks

[@AngeryCrow]

All these squig units update are a huge buff for Skarsnik since he is a Night Goblin legendary lord.

[@perrymeril]

But they nerfed his faction wide cheaper gobbos

[@sergioippolito]

no. Having one ultra cheap unit is better than having two cheap ones. -40% goblings helped to pop early, and whoever pops early always wins

[@ConradeVII]

Is that a new UI colour too?

[@davinchi3228]

Tbh all I want now is goblin heavy infantry and goblin focused lord and iam in heaven

[@Xsorus]

Skarnikl was already the most powerful Lord for greenskins by far

[@PNarbz123]

Weird way of spelling Grom.

[@TheSm1thers]

​@@PNarbz123 I would say Grom was slightly better before but now he's miles ahead with these Skarsnik nerfs and Grom buffs.

[@minderbart1]

he already was pretty strong

[@22metrid]

gobby gobbos tech tree is gone?

[@besnizec]

Where is your night goblin big boss boy?

[@joshuacollins9346]

I really hope CA doesn't nerf mangler squigs into the ground, but I'm not optimistic given their past history with knee-jerk balancing.

[@davidjankraayveld7784]

Well, now they are just too good. Two units can kill Skarbrand 😂 But Yes, let s hope they stay useful as they are just awesome units. Now they are good at everything. And that is just crazy. But I hope I can enjoy the super mangler squigs for just a couple of days/ maybe a week 😅

[@johndane9754]

​@@davidjankraayveld7784Yes, the manglers do seem broken when tested in a vacuum, under ideal conditions, and released at the perfect blob of units that are a suicide units favorite target. You have an army, you have options to deal with the manglers dilemma. Shoot it, throw a wizard, or send a sacrificial unit. This is not hard to figure out.

[@shiggydiggy6847]

In their current state they are in need of a pretty big nerf. They can solo a dreadlord on black dragon or the RoR dragon prince unit, which really shouldn't be a thing for 1k price point anti-infantry unit.

[@johndane9754]

@@davidjankraayveld7784 Ask yourself why they were allowed to get to skarbrand at all. If you know the manglers are that dangerous why send your expensive unit to deal with it... In melee?

[@kommentier9884]

​@@johndane9754What is he supposed to do, just let them rampage and never engage them EVER?

[@danletko]

Nerfing greenskin economy is probably a good thing. They've been too strong lately, wiping out Thorgrim every game. You can't have strong units AND dirt cheap units AND a free additional Waaagh army for every single stack you have. If they can use Waaaghs to get free armies, the initial new armies have to be correspondingly more expensive. Plus, it makes sense lore-wise for Greenskins to focus on sacking instead of peacably occupying

[@jacktheripper3118]

Noooo he lost his broken -40 upkeep. It’s been cut in half. Not my broken like -80% upkeep by turn 17. I loved that so much for crap stacks of goblins

[@12SickOne34]

*Weez da Gobbos*

[@matthewpena3932]

Well Skarsnik was by far the easiest campaign for me in the game so them being even better is Waaaghsum! But I might be a Gabo at heart.

[@omikamiz568]

Before watching. "Mangler squig is so broken...but at least it probably tier 4 unit. Should be a while before you got to use them." After Watching. "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARE TIER 2!!!!!!!!???"

[@Saibaking-Fused]

Honestly Skarsnik loosing 20% upkeep from normal Goblins makes this a fairly decent sized nerf, Squigs aren't nearly as good as you say (I have mained Skarsnik since he started near the Empire Mountains with the Dawi so yes I have the experience to say this lol) Normal Gobs and the Gob Archers with the Armor Piercing Scrap upgrade Is the strongest army In the game, Normal Gobs for front line and Archers for deleting everything. I have had my melee gobs with max buffs solo Chosen with great weapons (Because that's how many buffs there are). On top of that with the -40% upkeep plus Mushroom addict and other add-ons they were typically 40 or less upkeep even with 10+ armies, those Manglers are 300 base and 180 with Skarsnik, 180 Is 5 Goblins for Skarsnik right now, I can kill a Giant with 3 Gobbo Archers In 5 seconds, those Manglers would need to get Into melee and likely take a lot of damage, meanwhile that leaves me with either 2 melee gobs to distract and kill or 2 more archers to kill It even faster lol. Overall I am fine with the changes because he was already #1 and I don't think these nerfs will change that, just means he won't be as strong as he once was. Also loosing the 10% Physical resist, extra 20% upkeep reduction, and the Vanguard deployment for Goblins being later and apart of a meh tech Is another nerf to Gobbos/Skarsnik. Again these nerfs are fine and likely deserved lol, but certainly not buffs.

[@TheSm1thers]

It's all about the night goblin fanatics and night goblin fanatic archers plus artillery spam.

[@Saibaking-Fused]

@@TheSm1thers Honestly all you really need Is normal Gobs and Gobbo Archers, nothing else was ever needed for me just because that's how both cheap and good they were. I judge units based off their value for treasury I pay for them each turn.

[@TheSm1thers]

@@Saibaking-Fused You're paying almost nothing anyway if you're Skarsnik with upkeep reductions.

[@aaronjenkins2135]

Skarsnik needs a mount

[@longhairdlout]

i can already tell all the bitching and whining from multiplayer players is gonna get mangla squigs nerfed :(

[@KorsAir1987]

A tier 2 anti-infantry unit able to kill a tier 5 monstrous unit AND a lord? I'm a single player guy, and this unit should be totally nerfed.

[@vexingvillain2758]

@@KorsAir1987it just shouldn’t be tier 2 rly

[@blindwoozie]

I dont play mp but its a well deserved nerf man, they are too strong against everything

[@mainsails2892]

Dog they can solo a black dragon do you think they're fairly balanced? "Who cares about balance it's fun! I only play SP!" And then what happens when you play against the AI with a doomstack that melts your tier Vs?

[@mainsails2892]

​@vexingvillain2758 t2 is crazy, they should be a side grade to night goblin hoppers

[@milanp5159]

I don't like the change that Skarsnik can recruit orcs from any city. When I play with goblins, I don't need orcs, and since the greenskins have a huge roster, I will only be bothered by additional unit cards with orcs when I want to recruit goblins.

[@besnizec]

And how did you figure that out? He can recruit orc shaman lord, not orc units this early on..

[@jacktheripper3118]

Squigs are gonna be broken and then merged to uselessness bc of multiplayer people

[@patrickgjertsen9577]

The "likes" said 600 times.

[@lehelkiss3919]

I reaaaaaaaaly DON'T like what they done to the Greenskin tech tree. Its boring, and looks just the same as the nurgle or the Ogre one. Same buffs, same place. No 1 turn for 1000 gold tech either.