Skepticism and Ashari beliefs Are Same! Shamsi and Visitor Speakers Corner

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[@ruddin93]

The young brother on the left is the next gem in shaa ALLAH. May ALLAH grant him beneficial knowledge and spread His Deen in accordance to The Qur'an, The Sunnah, The Companions and the understanding of the Salafs. Aameen!

[@T-19-]

Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah in regards to the names and attributes of Allah (the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and his companions رضي الله عنهم اجمعين): -Affirm for Allah what he attributes to himself in the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah in a way that befits His majesty. In the following way: -Don’t resemble the attributes to anything as there is nothing like Allah. “There is nothing like Him: He is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.” (42:11) -Don’t Distort/change or specify about the attributes what Allah hasn’t. -Don’t ask how the attribute exactly is (as no one has ever seen Allah). -Don’t negate/reject the attributes of Allah. They made not a just estimate of Allah as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection, the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Exalted is He, free of all imperfections, High above all that they associate as partners with Him.’ (Surah Az-Zumar: 67) “And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is tied up.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His Hands are extended, He spends however He wills…” (Al-Mā’idah: 64) “[Allah] said, ‘O Iblees, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My hands? Were you arrogant [then], or were you [already] among the haughty?’” [Saad 38:75]. “(Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate themselves (to Allâh), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so.” (68:42) “And the Face of your Lord full of Majesty and Honour will abide forever.” (55:27) “And I endued you with love from Me, in order that you may be brought up under My Eye” (20:39) “Floating under Our Eyes, a reward for him who had been rejected!” (54:14) “Everything will perish except His Face.” (28:88) Side point: The Hadith About 2 Right Hands: "And both of His hands are right (يَمِينٌ) hands." Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 The word يَمِينٌ/ يُمنا comes from the word, Blessed = تَيَمُّن, this Hadith is talking about how Allah’s hands are blessed. Simple. The Arab’s in the time of the Prophet used to believe the left hand was cursed. Salafi’s do not believe that the hands of Allah are organs at the end of the forelimb of certain vertebrates that exhibits great mobility and flexibility in the digits and in the whole organ. It is made up of the wrist joint, the carpal bones, the metacarpal bones, and the phalanges. Salafi’s don’t believe the shin of Allah mentioned in the Qur’an is the front part of the leg below the knee. Salafi’s don’t believe the eye which Allah mentions about himself in the Qur’an is made up of three coats, which enclose the optically clear aqueous humour, lens, and vitreous body. The outermost coat consists of the cornea and the sclera; the middle coat contains the main blood supply to the eye and consists, from the back forward, of the choroid, the ciliary body, and the iris. These are human attributes ^. Allah’s attributes are not like ours. They befit His majesty. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (112:4) “And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allâh, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do.” (7:180)

[@vectorclassic6403]

بارك الله فيك

[@danieltribeofbeni]

O you who have believed! Do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you [Qur'an 5: 101].

[@humancat330]

that young brother on the left is the same person in videos title young ahmed deedat ???

[@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ]

Yes he said he taken time off study deen

[@Eschton23]

After being corrected many times He still quotes a non existing verse of the prostration to Adam The verse does not start with "Ala Tasjud"

[@kingjames2156]

I so don't agree. When I was born as Muslim I never thought God as body or the literalist belief you hold or whatever, in my mind God was always this unknown entity, same as when Prophet Muhammad(Pbuh) went to visit God, he felt this immense aura in there. Also Abu Hanifa's beliefs are in super line with the Maturidi belief and he was a Tabi'un, so not everyone believed like the Hanbalis, sorry.

[@danieltribeofbeni]

The Qur'an does not give us an account of the prophet's life. On the contrary: it does not show us the prophet from the outside at all, but rather takes us inside his head, where God is speaking to him, telling him what to preach, how to react to people who poke fun at him, what to say to his supporters, and so on. We see the world through his eyes, and the allusive style makes it difficult to follow what is going on. The Christians elevated Jesus to divine status (though some of them were believers); the polytheists elevated the angels to the same status and compounded their error by casting them (or some of them) as females; and just as the Christians identified Jesus as the son of God, so the polytheists called the angels sons and daughters of God, polytheists further claimed that the angels (or deities, as they are also called) were intercessors who enabled them to approach God, a well-known argument by late antique monotheists who retained their ancestral gods by identifying them as angels. For Christians also saw the angels as intercessors.

[@saadshoaib901]

1000 yrs later again These guys are still arguing this

[@sohype6827]

Subhan’Allah you see how history is just a loop that keeps going, however we musn’t give up on spreading the true message of Allah even if it’s after a million years

[@jin-zd9ko]

Alhamdulillah promise Messiah has come

[@noahboah2310]

Whoever is attacking ashaaira and maturidiyya is attacking ahlussunnah and Islam. They are the narrator's of the Aqeedah of RasuulAllaah Sallallâhu ^alayhi WA sallam. SHAMSI you liar all wahhabies and mujassima ahmadiyya shiaa you all are loosing against AHLUSSUNNAH WAL JAMAA

[@raymonddarhk20]

No they're not the same beliefs, they've same train of thoughts. Ashari propose solutions from faith's point of view while Skepticism is a step towards figuring out.

[@scottholder4431]

LMAO! Not submitting to allah has NOTHING to do with arrogance. Beliefs are not formed or rejected due to arrogance. Beliefs are formed or rejected based on the evidence. So you see? It has nothing to do with arrogance, but it does have a lot of do with validity. If your arguments are not valid, then no one is going to believe you whether they are arrogant or not.

[@abutahir4319]

Unfortunately shamsi is not providing any evidence for anything he is saying. Attributing lies to people When did the book of Allah or the sunnah say tawheed is made of 3 parts??? Answer.....

[@intekabalam7340]

Correction: Ibn Jareer at Tabari and Abu Hanifa said this not Shamsi

[@AhmedRaza-lh4oj]

2:10 Shamsi should make excuses for Qurtubi, the rulers wouldn't allow anyone not to be Ashari at that time, Qurtubi alludes to the way of the Salaf. Just like Saudi scholars chopping and changing based on MBS's vision.

[@ponderingspirit1475]

Which Saudi scholars?

[@raschiddavids3849]

Wahabi/salafism and Christian anthropormorphism are the same!

[@OCEAN-fc9wl]

No

[@raschiddavids3849]

@@OCEAN-fc9wl let's see, Christians believe God is in a place, salafis do too. Christina's believe God is on a throne, salafis do too. Christians believe God has physical literal parts, salafis do too. Did I miss anything yet? Oh yes, Christians believe God enters creation, salafis believe this too when the hadith states the Allah descends to the lowest heaven.

[@ruddin93]

@@raschiddavids3849 Your premises are based on your incorrect understanding of anthropomorphism.

[@raschiddavids3849]

@@ruddin93 the attribution of human characteristics or behaviour to a god, animal, or object. - Oxford dictionary! All similarities stated that salafi/wahabi share with Christians is likening God to his creation! Learn to read!

[@T-19-]

@@raschiddavids3849 Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah in regards to the names and attributes of Allah (the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and his companions رضي الله عنهم اجمعين): -Affirm for Allah what he attributes to himself in the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah in a way that befits His majesty. In the following way: -Don’t resemble the attributes to anything as there is nothing like Allah. “There is nothing like Him: He is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.” (42:11) -Don’t Distort/change or specify about the attributes what Allah hasn’t. -Don’t ask how the attribute exactly is (as no one has ever seen Allah). -Don’t negate/reject the attributes of Allah. They made not a just estimate of Allah as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection, the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Exalted is He, free of all imperfections, High above all that they associate as partners with Him.’ (Surah Az-Zumar: 67) “And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is tied up.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His Hands are extended, He spends however He wills…” (Al-Mā’idah: 64) “[Allah] said, ‘O Iblees, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My hands? Were you arrogant [then], or were you [already] among the haughty?’” [Saad 38:75]. “(Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate themselves (to Allâh), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so.” (68:42) “And the Face of your Lord full of Majesty and Honour will abide forever.” (55:27) “And I endued you with love from Me, in order that you may be brought up under My Eye” (20:39) “Floating under Our Eyes, a reward for him who had been rejected!” (54:14) “Everything will perish except His Face.” (28:88) Side point: The Hadith About 2 Right Hands: "And both of His hands are right (يَمِينٌ) hands." Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 The word يَمِينٌ/ يُمنا comes from the word, Blessed = تَيَمُّن, this Hadith is talking about how Allah’s hands are blessed. Simple. The Arab’s in the time of the Prophet used to believe the left hand was cursed. Salafi’s do not believe that the hands of Allah are organs at the end of the forelimb of certain vertebrates that exhibits great mobility and flexibility in the digits and in the whole organ. It is made up of the wrist joint, the carpal bones, the metacarpal bones, and the phalanges. Salafi’s don’t believe the shin of Allah mentioned in the Qur’an is the front part of the leg below the knee. Salafi’s don’t believe the eye which Allah mentions about himself in the Qur’an is made up of three coats, which enclose the optically clear aqueous humour, lens, and vitreous body. The outermost coat consists of the cornea and the sclera; the middle coat contains the main blood supply to the eye and consists, from the back forward, of the choroid, the ciliary body, and the iris. These are human attributes ^. Allah’s attributes are not like ours. They befit His majesty. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (112:4) “And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allâh, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do.” (7:180)

[@danieltribeofbeni]

THE QURAN (TODAY) Surah 53 An-Najm, Ayat 19-23 53:19) Have you ever thought about al-Lat and al-Uzza,15 (53:20) and about the third deity, al-Manat? (53:21) Shall you have the male issues, and He the female issues?16 (53:22) That is indeed an unfair division! (53:23) These are nothing but names that you and your forefathers have invented, for which Allah has sent down no authority.17 They are merely following their conjectures and their carnal desires18 although guidance has come to them from their Lord.19 Quran (OLD) Surah 53 An-Najm, Ayat 19-23 Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat? These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for.[Words of Satan Deleted] What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! (an-Najm 53:19-22) Which was makes more sense when you read it old or new gen Say it with your 🖤 not with your ego eyes 👀

[@jin-zd9ko]

Islam Ahmadiyya is true Islam

[@EazyAzCanBe]

Ahmadiyya religion is true ahmadiyya, islam is true islam.

[@jin-zd9ko]

@@EazyAzCanBe Ahmadiyya is sect of islam why it is true Islam becuse of promise Messiah(A.S)

[@jin-zd9ko]

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(A.S) is promise Messiah

[@EazyAzCanBe]

He died a shameful death on the toilet, befetting for a fake messiah.

[@4n0p3hypr7]

nope

[@jin-zd9ko]

@@4n0p3hypr7 yes

[@stylishspaces0]

May ALLAH ﷻ guide you to the straight path.

[@jin-zd9ko]

@@stylishspaces0 yes Allah already did