The problem is that they tip back. The JD with a higher and further forward center of gravity can decelerate at the top of the hill, and "throw" himself over the top. The others actually would work better in the real world, but they lose this test that is rigged to benefit the objectively worse machine.
@rickyp321810 жыл бұрын
there,s another video going around from 1997 that,s rigged for newholland
@RJ1999x Жыл бұрын
@@rickyp3218 Being involved in the New Holland skid steer rodeo, they were not rigged. They were machines taken from the local dealer
@fddon4166 Жыл бұрын
in a real world contingency, should the machines with normal weight distribution (rear heavy when unloaded) need to climb that steep of a hill, they could still make it, in reverse.
@mrpeep5493 Жыл бұрын
Our skid steers at work pop wheelies coming up on our pintle trailers all the time, you just keep the throttle down and drag the ass end on the ramps all the way up. That operator looks like he could have done the same thing to get up the hill. The dirt looks compact enough to accomplish but instead he kept letting of way to early
@gregrupar1354 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see the drivers are on two different skill levels. The Deere driver was moving his bucket to counter the weight. The others until the new holland just kept it in on position
@nikhilp28502 жыл бұрын
Its true
@RJ1999x Жыл бұрын
And the John Deere tires are filled with fluid
@bradleytrimble5867 Жыл бұрын
Ya you can see him moving his bucket over ever bump
@nikhilp2850 Жыл бұрын
What shame
@cedriclili1200 Жыл бұрын
TT 66 ni ni
@chuckles57875 жыл бұрын
I've been operator for a years.. What I see in this video is John Deere's tilting there bucket forward to make it over the hill, if you pay close attention to the other buckets are tilted way back to prevent it from going up the hill..
@paulvandenboom8355 жыл бұрын
More weight in the ass end of a loader means it can lift more. i know for a fact new bobcats can out lift john deeres in the same class.
@ButchE30M3S148 жыл бұрын
All 'competitors' of the john deere are heavier at the back (counterweight) When driving a load thats a huge advantage. Not to mention it is prohibited (safety wise) to go uphill forward with a skidsteer with no load in the bucket. No john deere for me. Greetings, a heavy machinery safety instructor.
@ajl94918 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@matthewmeek42898 жыл бұрын
Cat should of just droped his bucket and plowed right thru mount skidmore
@oligo12348 жыл бұрын
ButchE30M3S14
@novo-um8 жыл бұрын
ButchE30M3S14 ф
@jasongartner52676 жыл бұрын
ButchE30M3S14 if the deere was so bad ,it didn't have a problem with the liad
@mattmcneice722310 жыл бұрын
This demonstration was created by deere for a deere skid steer.... if it was a bobcat, cat, or case demonstration... they would all come in place first too
@andrewm49516 жыл бұрын
Matt McNeice if you watch close. The deere driver is properly moving his arms and bucket to make it over. The drivers of the others were not. Hence you wont make it over that engineered hill with out dropping the bucket. Lol my 9 year old noticed it before he even showed me the video. 👍
@nextbot_478c26 жыл бұрын
No shit Sherlock The drivers in all the other skidsteers were not operating properly
@jfc35525 жыл бұрын
yes. This is john deere setup stage, so what you expect :D
@kyleradke63455 жыл бұрын
This was a stupid video lol.
@skipyoder91915 жыл бұрын
Newhollend and John Deere skid steers are made exactly the same with different badges.
@groddofwar777910 жыл бұрын
Bobcat has always made great machines, we have a T300 and its a beast, love the UC as well, it has some longevity..
@natesmodelreveiwsetc.96269 жыл бұрын
your right about bobcat
@IntenseMomentos2 жыл бұрын
We have an S300, absolute beast of a machine
@masongoebel20154 жыл бұрын
I would like to know where they hired the operators for the competitors, common sense is to lower bucket when going over hill
@Bmr4life3 жыл бұрын
This was designed for JD to win. Those other rigs have a lot of weight in the back. This was a JD commercial.
@777fuzzypeach10 жыл бұрын
Now, when they break down, let's see who gets repaired quicker.
@mikegriff83725 жыл бұрын
Or cheaper
@superunknown86455 жыл бұрын
Haha good point
@dereklangley85825 жыл бұрын
Neither one. They are hell to work on.
@hamimhameem34115 жыл бұрын
The best hilarious comment so far.... Thx... Makes me grin...
@lydiassentongo39594 жыл бұрын
RCMXX is an American saying
@luckycharm52519 жыл бұрын
Rhis looks more like a promo-vid for John Deere, than anything else.
@andrewm49516 жыл бұрын
Lucky Charm promo for suckers. Lol. My 9 year old figured out the trick in the first time he viewed it.
@monikatrevors99143 жыл бұрын
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@numbzinger3503 жыл бұрын
Yup. It's just an infomercial made for KZbin instead of television.
@xephael34858 ай бұрын
Really?
@jamesgrier26918 жыл бұрын
All this means is that the John Deere is front heavy
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
James Grier you can see deer puts the bucket down when it goes over hill
@onthetools24996 жыл бұрын
James Grier agreed
@thebad3006 жыл бұрын
that is only party of it, the deere is front heavy. let's repeat this with the max load in the bucket
@jfc35525 жыл бұрын
still john deer is more back heavy then anyone else in lifting buckets... but this is john deere setup stage, so what you expect :D
@jamescox27495 жыл бұрын
who cares it looks like fun to me
@pimppat878711 жыл бұрын
I work for a rental equipment company as a driver. I promise you if you pull up with a john deere skid steer, you will be pulling back off with it. bobcat is the best by far. they also don't spend as much time in our shop.
@jameybrandon9653 жыл бұрын
Cat is hands down the best..but wacker neuson is a close second. Bobcat only last a while because they don't have enough power to destroy themselves.
@gorillahumpr7 жыл бұрын
if anyone thinks this is real read up. the driver slows down slightly at the top to put more weight on the front as it peaks over the hill. it's all operator. John deere skids do nothing better than any others
@Scottypowpow11 жыл бұрын
This is so stupid, the Deere lowered his bucket at the top so he did flip backwards, the others didn't so they did, then the holland notices and did it the second try when he went up and it worked, the Deere was just a better driver who's not stupid and balanced the weight better..
@shawnp84298 жыл бұрын
deer driver is tilting bucket down when going over Hills. the machine is not outperforming it is driver error
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
Shawn P yeah ikr!!!!!
@martygunhead57477 жыл бұрын
Thats what i aboit to say
@alivargas5787 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mireyacantu9166 жыл бұрын
andrew
@thomasknight94576 жыл бұрын
Shit who's never wheeled a bobcat and stopped. No one on the construction sites I work on...thats the fun of running them. They are Swift, turn sharp, and wheelies
@AndyFromm10 жыл бұрын
I bet the john Deere had fluid in the front tires
@jeff-fm7rh8 жыл бұрын
they didn't show case because it beat john deere 😂
@tonyw21365 жыл бұрын
exactly
@MikeHunt-ix2xy4 жыл бұрын
Doubt that can't afford something else
@cadestrange17354 жыл бұрын
Matt Thompson case machines aren’t cheap😂
@MadTrax5723 жыл бұрын
@@cadestrange1735 a case TV380/TV450B is around 65-75,000 depending on spec. I’d say that’s competitively priced for the market
@wyomingoutdoors88993 жыл бұрын
I dont think case makes a skid steer
@MRSketch095 жыл бұрын
Watching this I wonder if all the loaders that were back heavy... could pick up a bigger load than the deere skid steer? You'd think that would be the case from.. watching.
@dereklangley85825 жыл бұрын
It's not the machines, it's the operator. Bobcat skid loaders are great work vehicles.
@mattferreira90224 жыл бұрын
So obviously John deere doesn't have as much lifting capacity.
@Bernard_Tapie3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly was i was thinking, they're all over loaded except him
@sonofman82622 жыл бұрын
He he keeps putting his bucket down on the last hill gravity helping him win John Deere the Best
@RccarsUK5 жыл бұрын
1:08 making a mountain out of a molehill 🤣🤣🤣⛰️
@JoelWebster-e5u Жыл бұрын
It's like when my 6 year old makes up rules for a game to where she always wins. They perfectly engineered "Mt. Skidmore" for the John Deere to win. If you notice, the operator on the John Deere always levels the bucket out at the top to get just enough weight out front. That's how close it is to tipping backwards. When coming back with the "loaded" bucket, the bucket is never full. its loaded to the front to look full but it has plenty of extra room in the back for more dirt. BUT, if it had a full bucket it would tip forward going down the "mountain". Perfectly rigged to not tip either way
@EnglertRacing969 жыл бұрын
02:20 john deere his bucket down, bobcat did not....
@tommymodified5 жыл бұрын
Not surprised with its climbing capabilities.. familiar with JD 313 skid in a rental fleet we had 6. The wheelbase is slightly different & weight is shifted more forward. This does help with climbing but driving on hard surfaces especially asphalt the machine tends to jump and bounce in turns if not careful. They were structurally strong machines but often plagued with annoying electric issues. Foot petal lockout solenoids often fail or freeze in cold, starters quit, interior instruments panels went bad, failed safety switches. Some older models had the wiper motor on cab and not the door it was a terrible design would cause the door to open and crush wiper blade. Worst part was JD couldn't supply our company a decent wire schematic for the units & parts are ridiculous expensive markup. Remember one wiper motor was somewhere around $500🙄
@superdrummergaming10 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trade my CAT 257D for anything.
@xianeli84735 жыл бұрын
@nordhorny then you get get as many cats as you wanted
@adventurestech3070 Жыл бұрын
damn bro, I grew up on this. it's all coming back to me and it's glorious
@joetorres2363 Жыл бұрын
lol
@rafavillegas447211 жыл бұрын
for me the best is CAT
@stevehusk6215 Жыл бұрын
I've been working with a Case skid loader since 1989 it's a 1835c and in 2001 bought a 40xt both are very good machines! That test was mostly show, dropping the bucket at the right time will help on the hill , the new Holland missed the timing a little, the other two didn't try. Never had the chance to run a Deere ,I'm sure they would do a good job, but please "
@bensieck87429 жыл бұрын
Love JD tractors but Bobcat is the best skid.Complete B.S. the other operators didn't roll their buckets down to make it over the moguls but the JD did.So much for good operators.
@failedmusician5157 Жыл бұрын
I need this soundtrack for when I’m super constipated and working hard to get the job done.
@carlislehendersonthethird77995 жыл бұрын
I can’t think of any real life scenarios where being able to drive up a grade that steep would matter.
@ozjado3 жыл бұрын
We have heaps of John deer dealers in Australia but I can't recall ever seeing a John deer skid steer on any construction site I've Been on
@raygun.81445 жыл бұрын
I would like to see them all go uphill on reverse.
@pandvsims5 жыл бұрын
Bobcat operator just needed to drop his bucket like the JD operator did and he would have been there. Set up!
@bowtieguy45635 жыл бұрын
No it's a lighter steer
@zrangusfarms58078 жыл бұрын
Did u notice that Deere tipped its bucket and the others didn't
@tinotarantino85228 жыл бұрын
ZachtheMack 21 I noticed that they actually tip their bucket back a few inches to help them lift the tires the first time they hit the hill and yeah the John Deere tipped his bucket down that's bullshit this is all promoted by John Deere though they probably put weights in the engine compartment to on the other ones cheating bastards
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
Tino Tarantino IKR!!!!
@rubenmunguia79297 жыл бұрын
ZachtheMack 21
@chrisbowles37516 жыл бұрын
ZachtheMack 21 00000000
@morgangaming2017 жыл бұрын
This will be a great promotional video for John Deere
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
MorganGaming it is because its rigged!!!
@brianmedeiros4175 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that the Deere guys were driving the other brands.
@NeilLB75 жыл бұрын
Good wholesome fun for the entire family!!! Where I live there is a CAT dealer within 15 minutes. The Deere dealer is 2 hours east. CAT IS THE WINNER by 120 miles!!!!!!! We never failed to complete a job because our CAT skid steer couldn't go up Mount Skidmore.
@bangsteellongrangeshooting34135 жыл бұрын
I got punked... I just watched a John Deere commercial. :(
@stevewilson97925 жыл бұрын
Yeah..me too..
@AnthonyCifani11 жыл бұрын
I dont see how anyone could get this excited for this
@stonetosteel92506 жыл бұрын
I could do the course on my front tires in half the time. I could even do it after 15 beers.
@jameswhiteman23375 жыл бұрын
Lol Come work for me then
@ceight38264 жыл бұрын
I'll do it better after 15 beers lol
@petemiller5194 жыл бұрын
Half the time on two wheels and 15 beers, I'll pay good money to see that.
@stonetosteel92504 жыл бұрын
Pete Miller look up new kubota. Pay me later !!
@stonetosteel92504 жыл бұрын
Pete Miller it’s a new post on my channel. Scroll way down “new kubota”. Video is just for you Peter.
@Tommychu199311 жыл бұрын
I think it's rather impressive that a baseball cap manufacturer put on such an extravagant show. Also I don't know what you haters are all going on about. When I was an operator it was a pretty common thing to have to carry a bucket of dirt over 3 perfectly engineered and manicured hills, the last of which was really tall and pointy.
@fakellacountly19439 жыл бұрын
fine print at bottom of screen: This is a paid advertisement for John Deere. pathetic.
@CubCadetMan714 жыл бұрын
I run a Yanmar skid steer every day. Definitely kinda funny to watch this. Kind of like Monster Jam the way they set it up. I know for a fact the Yanmar wouldn’t be able to do this, the front end tips with not much weight on it.
@InLaymansTermsPlease5 жыл бұрын
Take that same Deere with no add on"s and do the lifting competition... lol
@kennethrocheleau22965 жыл бұрын
I see many of you haven't studied physics. The John Deere isn't necessarily more front heavy. Because if that was the case it would almost have the opposite problem and be prone to tipping forward on downslopes. It's not because its tilting its bucket going over the last rise because the other ones did try that trick too and it didn't work. It's about weight distribution and center of gravity. The John Deere has a wider wheelbase front to back than most of the other, especially the Bobcat. And it has its rear wheel especially set further back. Also where the loader arms attack and where the pistons attach to the frame and arms also makes a big difference. Better weight distribution and lower center of gravity. Makes a ton of difference.
@webrat919 жыл бұрын
The John Deere has foam filled tires and the rest have air filled......this competition was RIGGED !!!!
@Hitman26794 жыл бұрын
my gtand daddy had a deer skid it was amazing... had it for 30 years and only changed the oil a handful of times and thats it
@CarlosRojas-tn7yo8 жыл бұрын
shit i can go over that little hill with the bobcat and win everytime.
@joseflindbom76807 жыл бұрын
Independent test shows that case can do that best.
@ryanfletcher56365 жыл бұрын
Shit a asv rt40 is better than a Deere skid steer.
@IowaSpartan47 жыл бұрын
This has got to be in Iowa, only us Iowans would enjoy something like this lol plan the whole day out just to go to this event
@nadsenec85128 жыл бұрын
jon deere advertising
@soolly3575 жыл бұрын
I really don't know much about these type of machines, but i did notice the other machine drivers lifting the front shovel up to tip it back and not go over the hill.
@mattmc1215 жыл бұрын
I'd just level the work area better with my excavator, duh.
@gilbertclement54273 жыл бұрын
skid steers are not meant to replace all equipment you are correct
@Snowtrails1112 жыл бұрын
yeah. if you pay attention closely, the deere tilts its bucket down when at the apex of the inclines, using the weight of the bucket to bring the nose down while the others dont.
@Iskate1zEro8 жыл бұрын
Cat/Bobcat > everything else.
@josie40654 жыл бұрын
100%
@lizardfirefighter11011 жыл бұрын
Give us a break. Where is Kobota? One challenge - who can keep the wheels on the ground when going over unlikely terrain. Terrain that could be modified if need be.
@Rippyboy12111 жыл бұрын
because this compition is rigged. They want the outcome to be JD as the top Skid machine.
@paulr23728 жыл бұрын
what a joke. why don't they let the operators keep going? Because of this stupid video, I'm not buying a deere and I'm buying a CAT! Now how did your marketing pay off?
@petya53147 жыл бұрын
Paul R CAT and Bobcat is the best.
@vencent83297 жыл бұрын
Paul R fuck yeah bobcat ever
@NibblesTheNibbler6 жыл бұрын
We've run just about every machine at our company: Kubota, cat, Deere, takeuchi, case, bobcat, new Holland, etc. Cat has always been the best machine.
@barryrhyno31906 жыл бұрын
cat sucks who wants delayed hydraulics?
@joshforresta6 жыл бұрын
what delayed hydraulics? lol......
@2LateIWon14 жыл бұрын
Notice how the JD driver is lowering the bucket as he goes over it to counter weigh the tipping.
@dylanslahtovsky95858 жыл бұрын
Cat bobcat are better
@farmerjames77806 жыл бұрын
i like bobcat too
@channel-fq2vl6 жыл бұрын
Dylan Slahtovsky the deere clearly won
@kraftrobert43265 жыл бұрын
@@channel-fq2vl face palm
@andyb47963 жыл бұрын
John Deere had the shovel full of mud, clear advantage!
@nathanielmathies28519 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't they compare the same models? Long wheel base john Deere vs short wheel base everything else. S130 is almost the smallest Bobcat available but that Deere is a much larger model
@cleetismcdougall54255 жыл бұрын
Mt. Skidmore........They really WIPED out the competition.
@ncmassey110 жыл бұрын
It's the bucket tip...JD rigged this up.
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
Nicholas C. Massey ikr!
@waynejohnson98556 жыл бұрын
i work road construction and cant remember seeing a deere used by us or and sub contractors.
@josie40654 жыл бұрын
We were breaking up the bottom of a pool with our Bobcat s595 in the bottom and the Deere on that was on site up top to using a buddy system to get the concrete out of the pool. Huge difference between them in every way. The Deere started tipping forward without even a full bucket 🙄
@loomi588 жыл бұрын
If this isn't self-promoting by John Deere, then I don't know what is. Cat beats the shit out of Deere any day.
@matthewmeek42898 жыл бұрын
I know right lol
@groverjonesjr.47188 жыл бұрын
Loomi
@matthewmeek42898 жыл бұрын
Cabage
@_casey4298_8 жыл бұрын
Loomi ii
@windsbra128 жыл бұрын
yea john deer is junk compared to cat and the cat in this video is not rolling the bucket down as he goes over the hill
@bingobango1707 жыл бұрын
Good races. Fun to watch
@steverice78649 жыл бұрын
JD had weighted tires for sure
@misterb14925 жыл бұрын
Yea,,,, promo videos are always fun. make them all use the same bucket.
@fredkorman79417 жыл бұрын
All this proves is that John Deere has a smaller counter weight on the back. All the others can haul more without tipping forward.
@jawadiustunda1193 Жыл бұрын
The Amish in their bobcats would absolutely own this comp.
@Valentin-bt5np5 жыл бұрын
it is evident that in this "competition" the operators of the other mini-loaders were badly conducted, in my opinion CASE is better machine.
@FinsandFilters Жыл бұрын
That's why I like a tracked machine, this is the limitation of a wheeled skid steer, especially if it has some heavy counter weights in the back. Take the weights off the back to make things fair.
@northcarlionafarming85937 жыл бұрын
Jd skid steer is way small than all the others
@munozdaniel164 жыл бұрын
All the little details. The jonh deere one moves the front bucket when going uphill. Probably it could of been different if they worked their bucket too going uphill.
@aaronblake70638 жыл бұрын
They got the smallest john Deere possible
@anthonyjosephphotography84095 жыл бұрын
The John Deer is very light weighted in the rear and the very short wheel base makes it easy to go over the hills. But try and take that bucket full of dirt or stone and try loading it into a single axle dump truck and see what happens! NOSE DIVE! I have a 06 Cat 257 track machine with heat and air! I love my Cat!
@Infidel71538 жыл бұрын
John Deere is junk my Bobcat will go up way steeper hills .
@brooklynnschnare70697 жыл бұрын
my cat can beat that i went up a seven foot hill with my cat
@dustinpryde31216 жыл бұрын
I just wonder the difference in lift capacity since the machines that the front wheels were coming up are obviously weighted towards the rear. I've had several bobcat over the years, an 864 a t190, a t320, a t870 and a t770. Right now I have two 299d cats. I have rented a few John Deere's over the years and had no complaints but I've only used them a day here and a day there. I wouldn't recommend the cat skid steers that I have, nothing but problems.
@daverybak27788 жыл бұрын
notice how the deere operator uses his bucket as weight to get of the hill and none of the other operators hardly do anything? deere is shit. cat all the way
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
Dave Rybak yuppp!!!
@elijahneilsen46023 жыл бұрын
I would like to just inform the “fan” in the stands laughing that skid steer racing is not a laughing matter all competitors risk their lives for this passion the least they could do is show the same respect as others.
@CouragesPusykat9 жыл бұрын
this is complete bs and an advertisement john deere skid steers are absolute shit and this comes from experience in working with them. bobcats are the best designed skid steer
@jasonlarsen20628 жыл бұрын
You are very correct i've been running bobcat since I was about six and I've ran John Deere case new Holland and cat and I'm still sticking with bobcat
@brianamrhein6406 жыл бұрын
Deer cat and bob cat are great machines. for me cat is the best
@gmarhevka24 жыл бұрын
What a suprise a john deer promotion and they win every race.
@larshopp11 жыл бұрын
Volvo MC115C ?
@drumma2911 жыл бұрын
This is the worst John Deere commercial ever
@dylanslahtovsky95858 жыл бұрын
I have a bobcat and cat it goes up 70 digress like nothing doesn't pop a wheele
@cuneydkiliccote84276 жыл бұрын
Dylan Slahtovsky asvaltkesmeataşmanlıbobcat
@brent44011 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that john deere, but after owning a new holland for almost 40 years (1973 L35) I bought an S185 bobcat and must say, it would need the grapple on front to take any hill, while our new holland would have no problem on uphills by comparison. I think the bobcat seriously outperforms the antique NH otherwise. I own numerous John Deere Tractors but it wasn't hard to convince me to stay away from their skidsteers...although they had numerous manufacterers including NH
@benbien92087 жыл бұрын
this is a set up its fake cat and bobcat would kick john deere to the moon any day
@keithhill87355 жыл бұрын
Because their weight is in the back to help support heavy lifting. I run a bobcat every-day and when you pick up 3,000 and 4,000 pound tires you need that weight in the back.
@jairomunoz15737 жыл бұрын
John Deere is a piece of crap. CAT all the way.
@brooklynnschnare70697 жыл бұрын
dude my cat holds a lot i site there for a minute trying to fill my bucket my cat cost me 10 thousand dollers
@himalayanmonster99616 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@sethalexander22529 жыл бұрын
I'm calling complete bull shit... JD had a factory operator when the other guys were general contractors. Notice how they didn't compete with a GEHL/mustang? Hahahahahahaha.
@DirtTrackDave5 жыл бұрын
Hummm seems course was designed for john deere specifically.
@01rowena8 жыл бұрын
Go John Deere
@beatyourwife7 жыл бұрын
Rowena and John its FUCKING RIGGED!!!!!!!!
@SuperTruck9914 жыл бұрын
Check out the buck position of the Deer $hiT as it goes over the last burm. The bucket is tilt low to a negative angle to move the weight of the bucket forward and lower to the ground. Every other non Deer $hit skid steer has there front buckets position up higher. Not a fair contest at all. And yes I am a 15yr licensed skid steer operator.
@dillon677110 жыл бұрын
This right Here false advertisement
@chriscole11364 жыл бұрын
When the Operator has become one with his piece of equipment
@timothysternberg406310 жыл бұрын
Where is gehl? John deer sucks!
@farminginmissouri43086 жыл бұрын
Timothy Sternberg they didn’t put gehl in there because Deere knew they would lose to them.
@billjoe43675 жыл бұрын
My thoughts would be the Deere has less counterweight to pick up load
@DVeck8913 жыл бұрын
lol; like families would actually come out and enjoy watching this
@Bendigo1 Жыл бұрын
I think this was less about the machine and more about how the machines were being used. You can see the Deere constantly moving the bucket and arm to get better balance while the others just left them in the same place. He would raise the bucket to tip forward and lower it when he was level. Master vs Rookies as it looks to me.