Skill Based Matchmaking: The Biggest Mistake Game Developers Made

[@inadaze813]

God if they would only get rid of sbmm, I would actually buy this game and play tf outta it

[@WillRockTV]

These game developers need to make SBMM for hackers only. Throw all these hackers into the same lobby and leave us to have fun legally 😅

[@Nazylexx]

I would love to see some streams of that. Imagine tournaments of cheaters only xD

[@WillRockTV]

@@Nazylexx they use to have back in the OG MW2 that every lobby was a god mode hack lobby & everyone seem to have hacks. I quit playing when that started to happen. It no fun that way.

[@Nazylexx]

@@WillRockTV It's no fun, that's for sure. But I would like to watch the stream of 100% cheaters that are shadowbanned. But this has no place in normal playlists

[@DeathCluntch]

Bunny hopping and slide cancelling are literally allowed for hackers … so are red dot on mini map! Because skilled players don’t need these

[@DeathCluntch]

@@Nazylexxyou already watching one and all rest of streamers

[@uberxdropoffz1780]

Mw3 sbmm is the worst of all call of duty’s

[@Austin-l1j]

Advanced warfare had really thick SBMM too tho.

[@spookyreaper1702]

Yup. I hate it. I don’t mind playing my clones but now that irl rigs gunfights I absolutely hate it

[@spookyreaper1702]

@@Austin-l1jnah that game had an actual big skill gap if you could jump and shoot with good aim you dominated

[@meiken417]

​@@spookyreaper1702I reverse boosting on a 2nd account in AW, the lobbies were pretty much AI with one instance I remember where im following this dude through the entire map as hes trying to jump over railings to get outside lol

[@GhostFace_517]

It really isn’t y’all clown just can’t camp in this game..I kick ass on the regular

[@SancLunatic]

SBMM is fine as long as its a separate ranked playlist. Unranked should be purely based on ping and location. Literally every other game does this. For whatever reason, Activision wants to keep and force their SBMM in because they are so invested in this patented POS they made.

[@spookyreaper1702]

All games are copying this shiiiii. Played paladins casual after 3y and it’s matching me with masters from when I used to play ranked and dominate. I’m literally ass now and every game is against like pro players in casual

[@BigHim-b5c]

Why support them then ?

[@rzrrox4202]

I've been saying that for years now, if you want sbmm keep it in ranked play where it f*cking belongs not in casual playlists because then it's all ranked, I'm sick of 50+ ping in every match and yeah you never will notice that you're getting better because the lobbies are all identical.

[@DomGeez12357]

Pretty much every multiplayer pvp game has this feature it’s sad honestly

[@PeterLarter81]

It’s the multi million pound patent 😂

[@spookyreaper1702]

Even if you do get better now. The game will make sure you get melted and it will take you a whole mag to kill someone

[@a_tall_carrot]

Everybody that complains about the matchmaking literally need to boycott this game otherwise they’ll never change it 🤷‍♂️ I know it’s like a toxic addiction for a lot of people including myself for yearssss. This is the first year I haven’t played but until millions of other people that complain do the same thing… why would they bother changing it?

[@TitusMH]

Activision don’t care if you boycott 😂

[@a_tall_carrot]

@@TitusMH Activision don’t care about money? Because that’s basically what you’re saying

[@allpraisewebb1142]

​@@TitusMHthey actually will if MILLIONS of players abandon their product as greedy as they are that would be a substantial money loss for them

[@TitusMH]

@@a_tall_carrot 😂 I said boycotting a billionaire company they wouldn’t care if you do it come on dude go outside do something in your pathetic life stop wasting your time

[@TitusMH]

@@allpraisewebb1142 They already lost alot players already because of XDefiant 😂

[@ae86takumi]

The claymore detection needs fixing . They don’t have the same detection as MW2 version, crazy since it’s the same game 😂

[@lanceuppercut7418]

Hope you're getting paid well, Thunder. It would take a large sum to make this pointless stress worth it to me.

[@truthserum273]

My KD in Cold War was 1.4, in MW3 it's 0.88 the SBMM is beyond brutal.

[@TitusMH]

What do you care about KD it’s unlike your getting paid to play 😅

[@truthserum273]

@@TitusMH Everyone including yourself care you virgin nerd fanboy

[@d8l835]

​@@TitusMHbecause nobody has fun getting wrecked in cod lol How is that even a question? The fun of cod is the exact opposite of that ffs

[@ComplexWork]

@@d8l835get better than. Stop complaining 🤣

[@TitusMH]

@@d8l835 I haven’t had fun since black ops 2 multiplayer I had a 4.20 K/D😌

[@OkoliChimobi]

😂playing the Rust map with sbmm is next level crazy … who has experienced that

[@richpoor146]

Dude, you’re 100% right every time I get a kill I can expect to die in an instant

[@brendanh8978]

Revenge spawn system is turned up to eleven. Every person you kill is going to respawn behind you super close, gunning for you. They need to turn that ish down, have it respawn the player a little further away. They shouldn't respawn, then just turn a corner and kill you back, that is cheap as fu**.

[@NullFame]

it's basically tac insert like a foot away 😀⚰️🗿

[@AppalachianFMJ]

Yeah, same here.

[@willburgos5963]

Your videos are so relatable man lol this is how I feel every game

[@sauce773]

Terminal is my favorite map so far. The only one that feels like there isnt people coming from every direction up down side to side.

[@rochambeau2111]

But that’s what happened in this match 😂😂😂

[@antgambino7021]

Bruh which terminal u playing on ?

[@NullFame]

this was burgerless town or tainted sb&m beef terminal

[@tvrift]

I also forgot to say, it doesn't matter if you get Covert Sneakers, everyone uses it along with the Bone headset, which makes it so you can still hear enemy movement sounds, so you will still get heard no matter what you do...

[@zeroday87]

The headset don't offset covert sneakers. Trust me on that one lol. I think it's supposed to, but nope.

[@craiglewis8272]

Well the description doesn’t say that it counters covert sneakers, just says you’ll hear enemy footsteps better. Enemy footsteps are kinda low in this game.

[@tvrift]

@@zeroday87 The headset doesn't let you hear footsteps. This part is true. However you can hear the enemy's gear rattling around. This noise is easy to hear with the headset since it makes everything else quiet.

[@nycbatista94]

imagine booty sliding and bunny hopping in the marines....

[@luckylunch022]

One thing I noticed is you get a good kill streak going then die and the game will spawn you right in front of people so the score goes more level so bloody shitty

[@toonyseph7561]

1:46 NICE!!

[@AndrewR21]

They made the game way too fast tbh , it felt like a good pace during the early days you were able to rush & not instantly get killed.. now you can barley build up your kill streaks

[@gus051]

It's the tactical sprint or whatever it's called. Didn't played the past 2 games but cold war didn't have it and that game felt right.

[@fpscozality9568]

Glad it's u and not me. I gave up on cod after blops 4

[@rabbithole8592]

You have Claymores and Bouncing Betty's!? I can't even see what you're shooting at half the time. The Enemy Visibility is Horrible. No Country for Old Men! Lol

[@Assassin_King23]

SBMM is insane in this game

[@madone1980]

I give it a couple more weeks before Thunder goes back to MW2 😂

[@kingscrub3386]

This can't be worth the gas tank money Thunder. Gotta try and branch out.

[@antcourage8411]

Its like each release is spitting in our face with added velocity. This game is effing offensive. The gun stability feels reduced by like 400% The claymores, i mean....WHAT THE F***. This game is the least fun ever. I think ive come top 3 in like 2 of 50 matches. Im consistently seeing lobbies with everyone over 20 kills. Its offensive, and I hate it. Honestly, its tough to watch you play this ish.. either dust off the MW2 classes and use them here, which probably wont work with the +500% sweats couples with claymores that no longer work, for no reason. Man, ive been watching Thunder content from like 15 months ago. The last MW2019 videos. Pinnacle Thunder IMO. Anyway, appreciate you, Thunder. And eff this disgusting game.

[@AzaelV10]

As solo player, I'm always at full parties with dudes running a 2.5 KD per round.. wtf

[@sethwood5440]

Cant play any multiplayer games anymore. To many tournament sweats and tryhards. Competive gaming took the fun out of it. I remember when I i could hop on the weekends, in my schoolkid days, and still wreck lobbies. Now its like its a job, better put in that 40 hours a week if you wanna compete.

[@tmwhh]

Honest question. Why did you buy this Game? Everybody knew SBMM will be in it

[@Yashayar12trbe]

I feel you thunder but why would they stop sbmm when we keep buying and playing the game 🤷🏾‍♂️if we just would all stop playing for a while they might change things

[@aussieheroesgroup]

Why would anyone play this game? R.I.P. COD 2023 :)

[@moizesbrando]

bro pls play the killcams on some of these, these are wildddd

[@xgodsmenacex5719]

Thunder use the BAS-B battle Rifle it's got clean iron sights and it slaps brother. And when you get to unlock it in the ammo slot get either high grain rounds or MONO it's the modern warfare 2 OG version of FMJ. You'll see those sweats get melted when you get those on your gun. I'm sure the assault rifle you're using right now gets it you just have to actually look at when you unlock them and only certain weapons get mono rounds. But it does help in regular core quite a bit. Just want to make the game easier on you bro cuz I love watching your videos man. Don't want to see the OG struggling.

[@darrenrodd.]

My ps5 has been boxed and put away for 12 months didn't like these maps 1st time around so deffo not getting the game

[@MrShanecarroll24]

They want everyone to sweat lmao I’m trying to figure out these stats they are using to say sbmm is great who tf is playing this shit like that all the people I see speaking on this always playing a couple games then gets off

[@skxlter5747]

The black ops 4 music is what makes it funny

[@20bighec]

It amazes me that people still play these shitty cod games

[@saiyanjon]

I played 4 or 5 games last night and I swear they had to have sbmm off because every game I played against window lickers, it was glorious. TDM

[@OneSideofFries]

That SBMM kicked in towards in the end there.

[@OneSideofFries]

@youdeafdumbnblind Probably that too

[@anthonyj810]

Game won't ever get better if the idiots don't stop buying it every year and buying all the weapon/character skins as soon as they come out. If they're making billions they are not going to change a damn thing about the game.

[@LiamLovesMetal]

THAT CLAYMORE THROUGH THE WINDOW 😭

[@siheath3648]

The casual COD player i.e. 99.9% of the COD community have been complaining about SBMM for years now. If they listened to the COD community, turned it off and created ranked playlists for try hards, I'm willing to bet the COD sales would increase and people leaving the game because of burn out after a few weeks would decrease.

[@DarwinYouTube]

Watching you play is too damn funny man 😅 aaawwhhh maaahh gaaawwdddd 😅 claymores are ass, proceeds dyin twice to it in 10 seconds 😂

[@Dillisive]

This video explains why I won't buy another Call Of Duty

[@jf9652]

Man.. its even getting boring to watch, can’t believe how you hold on Thunder ❤️

[@steveozone4910]

These days I like to play games that don't make me frustrated.

[@aitheking66]

The armory system rewards you for winning matches, so its going to be extremely sweaty

[@clintonwashington3246]

I haven't bought a COD game in 4 years and I don't intend to this time either.😕

[@Herbaveli]

Crazy thing is every player is going through the same thing as every other player lol

[@Diggz24]

Dude I play mainly TDM and by watching this video FFA has the worst spawns I've ever seen! Spawning enemies right behind ppl. Spawn right by an enemy claymore! 😆 Jesus!

[@jasonmarcum1221]

I put suppressor on and made a huge difference

[@bailey9838]

1:45

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

Boooioioioioiiinng

[@sauce773]

He shot the mine. You can hear him fire his gun when he executes you

[@harshtruth9148]

This looks like the best COD since BO4.....personally havent played since season 1 cold war but this video reassures me why I quit.....its not fun when you have to compete every single game

[@Wasko2]

9:07 absolutely bodied hahaha

[@frigglediggle2]

So there are "rumors" that SBMM will be toned down in CoD. I guess there were some leaked emails from Xbox CEO that say it is negatively affecting player retention numbers. You can just look it up, I heard it from a Blametruth video and he cited where he heard it from.

[@Asilentobserver]

40 rpgs fired and zero hit markers lmao.. oh boy thunder I feel for you. Come on innnnmmm!!!

[@EviLSiLenZ]

grandpa hasn't heard of suppressors 😂

[@craigydcraig]

I bounced out of cold War, haven't bought COD since, vids like this justify my decision.

[@XENONEOMORPH1979]

Not bought the game since 2019 they were getting worse so i played warzone and the free trials and saved my money for a better gpu , thanks cod for making crap games

[@Fastforward3000]

people that have full time jobs and are Able to Spend lots of money, don't have Time to practice. SBMM is in their favor, and in Activision's favor bec these customers bring in Money. SBMM only sucks for content creators bec they can't pub stump anymore, but Activision don't care about that, Activision prefers SBMM bec it makes them More Money.

[@VincentChavez-t1p]

I want to like this game, cause the skeleton of what’s there could be good. Sbm for this game is way to cranked, makes it unplayable. Also that armory is so annoying.

[@tehdog123]

I feel your pain thunder" the sweat is strong with that game"😅

[@antcourage8411]

I should have watched to the end before commenting. Correct. Its a sickness. Brobono rat life. I hate this franchise. But im rocking an addiction thats as damaging as abusing subsances. Thanks.

[@RobsStang]

HATE the new "Time to Kill" .... takes half a magazine to kill someone.

[@ontime7482]

I’m so happy I stepped away from this god awful franchise.

[@5DimesPlayer]

Why was SBMM even implemented into CoD? I don't think anyone asked for it.

[@gahgae6650]

People seem to confuse the difference between publishers and developers. The developers don't make decisions like SBMM, it's the publisher/big corporate greed that is Activision that makes these decisions.

[@moyses9293]

You should try and use the new burst rifle

[@MatusFinchus]

Thunder camping that plane so hard at some points I thought my video was buffering. ;)

[@Ryu0rKen]

If they would just get rid of the SBMM this game was would be one of the best CODs.

[@blakprophet9305]

The moment I put my all to get good amount of kills I lose the game and the next game I’m not really playing too hard I get a win. Sbmm is really bad

[@HolyDiver79]

On a side note trying to get headshots with postols was a completley organic way to f#%k sbmm so after im done i can have some fun playon

[@patriciaacker604]

They need to fix alot of things in multiplayer

[@123fastslow]

I’m a master/few time predator player in apex and my KD is only 1.67 in this game 🤣🤣🤣 that shows how rediculous the sbmm is. I play pros daily in apex legends and my casual lobbies in this game feel just as hard

[@Humanumikey]

Great video Thunder 🤘. Digging the music, should turn it up a bit. If I’m ever in a lobby with you I’ll be laughing so hard 😂 “come on in!!!” I’m not buying this game though lol

[@dungimon1912]

SBMM isn't going anywhere, it has data to back up the fact it retains player retention in the long term. You all want to drop nukes and have k/d ratios > 5, so what, the lower skilled players just have to take it? and you think they'll continue playing the game? Also, factor in that the world is more connected now with youtube, reddit etc, so people can learn more tricks and keep up with the meta, so the standard of players is higher than it's ever been. The xbox 360 golden age is gone, this is modern shooters nowadays. Just accept this and enjoy the game for what it is, or try XDefiant, which by the way, will still be just as sweaty so don't expect any difference.

[@Drew-cc4qx]

Sbmm is worse and worse every year. This is the last time cod gets me to buy a game unless I know Sbmm is gone or at least reduced. They aren’t going to tho ahah.

[@OkoliChimobi]

For real this lobby seem easier the sbmm is being lenient

[@joezazasin7]

SBMM is brutal in this game. I can't even play the game, just dreadful

[@sullenwolf8oh1]

haven't been back since cold War that was the straw that broke the camels back for me I just support the homie Thunder and his gas money

[@protoman2260]

I gotta ask the question that has YET to be answered satisfactorily: *HOW IS THIS FUN!?*

[@th3teacher705]

How is this profitable?

[@GhostOfZerk]

I get stressed just watching this. So glad I didn't waste money on this piece of hot garbage.

[@Shadow39X]

God, why have you forsaken me hahahah

[@Zivuzx]

Yo Thunder if you want a gun that dominates this game then use the "Holger 556" Assault rifle once you reach rank 37.

[@7AMoOoDKAlAwadhi]

3:48 lmfao

[@videosverigenu4621]

Call of duty is basicly gaslighting its players: "Man, I feel like I've gotten better at this game". No you didn't - look at the scoreboard, punk.

[@RobertWells1]

Here's my question... As a 60-year-old. Pretty poor player, but still having fun with it, I usually get mid single digit kills in games and come in last. But everyone in my lobbies has 15 to 30 kills.... where's my skill base matchmaking?!?!

[@truthserum273]

That's a valid point 🤔

[@cringeworld9762]

You’re the bot us reverse boosters play against damn I’m sorry

[@Wasko2]

Yeah a lot of people have this experience. Probably one of the biggest issues with the matchmaking is when this happens. The algorithm seems quick to throw you in super sweaty lobbies but very very slow when it comes to putting you back down again. It's crap haha

[@truthserum273]

@@cringeworld9762 shame you can't reverse boost to get some pussy you virgin nerd.

[@Bluee95]

​@@cringeworld9762lol right

[@ecorona9552]

LoL! "Health has been increased to 150". Deaths look like hardcore gameplay deaths. What a trash franchise CoD has become. I'm glad only content creators have bought it , and glad they're universally trashing it. Cant wait for XDEFIANT. ANYTHING would be better than this rigged piece of shit.

[@Austin-l1j]

Thunder he shot your stun mine you could see him on the radar lmao you just didn’t look at the mini map 😂.

[@th3teacher705]

If you don't buy mtx, then they want you gone. The better you are, the more they want you gone. You're just costing them money.

[@theserulesoflife]

🤣🤣 love it... Cuz I share the frustration... I bought the game but thinking I'm just too old now to play... Sad

[@craiglewis8272]

You get a kill then die in this game because y’all cry for them to have back red dots on mini map when you shoot. You’ll have to run a suppressor on your gun to minimize you getting killed right after you shoot someone. This red dot on mini map thing kinda make having any other muzzle attachment besides a suppressor pointless

[@jastheace425]

Scatter mines do 💩 not worth having

[@DKCleetus]

lovin the content, respect OG!

[@tvrift]

These FFA lobbies are sweaty AF in MW3. Almost unplayable.

[@willyskrilly]

What monitor are you using ?

[@663antrim]

I just seen thunder booty sliding into a biscuit! Get the shot gun out...

[@LoadPuller]

Excuse my ignorance but what gun is that?

[@edwardcole7130]

And they want to charge $70 for this game? Nah I’m good. Waste of money. Nope.

[@mcspankem]

I hate sbmm like everyone else but also hate the days when people would beat the same bot lobbies day in and day out to just brag they had a 4kd(I was one) just to think they were good. Now people see just how good they aren't and it's hilarious 😂

[@iamgroot3615]

You must've killed deadoops like 20 times dude kept coming back for more lol