Roof Framing Masterclass British Style with Dan Cox

Daniel Cox shows us how he uses his Ultimate Roofing Square to pitch a barn style roof.
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[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi all, massive thanks again to Roger for filming the roof. Like last time it was great fun and the sun was certainly shining. Thanks for all the great and nice comments. 👍.

[@SkillBuilder]

I have just watched this after 6 months of not seeing it and there is so much information in this video but it is also very relaxing. Learning new things should be one of life's great pleasures, not a chore.

[@flyingjackcarpentry9394]

Some things I know I need to learn. Such as the business side of things. When you do a video about such topics I hesitate and add it to my 'watch later list'. Somethings i love learning about. I'd rather watch somebody chop wood and learn a little tip here and there than watch some bullshit on Netflix or eastenders or something.

[@jameshurst3279]

Enjoyed that one. Says he’s been lucky with work. He clearly makes his own luck.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks. It’s been a long time coming.

[@toosas]

loved that bit too

[@philpowell6915]

An absolute pleasure to watch a genuine craftsman at work....

[@adydanner]

What a great guy Dan is. Bought the square to do my roof. Thanks for sharing your knowledge really comes across well. I thought the bit about hobbies and interests gave the video a real human touch. Top draw guys. Like to see more content with Dan.

[@Oli_Hudson]

Totally agree

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks for the great comments. Hopefully Roger will have me back soon, when it’s sunny again!

[@joeelder8526]

Really really great to show another personality and to understand a bit about hobbies and that others work 7 days a week for the passion. Also really liked the use of clamps and third hands. Great tips

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Glad you liked the video, I’m only to happy for Roger to film it. Pleased you got something out of the video.

[@keithwebb658]

Dan obviously knows his stuff and its fantastic to see Roger encourage him to be more comfortable in front of the camera. Brilliant content from both guys!

[@alan36753]

Pleasure to watch. I spend more time on you tube than watching telly nowadays. Every day’s a school day. Thanks guys.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

There’s not much on tv to watch most of the time. Thanks

[@krugtbifro6152]

Always put my string line from the top Was something I was taught so I've always done it Always leveled each one as well No longer The way Dan did it is brilliant Always learning something new Cheers guys

[@jimichip]

Dan, you are the man! 👍

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Cheers James. 👊🏻

[@jimichip]

We’re loving the roofing square, thank you! We have a nice roof coming up on an extension that we’re currently building so it will get plenty of use.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@jimichip nice one. Your more than welcome. 😉

[@DickEvans09]

Just watched this for the first time, so nice to see a true craftsman clearly enjoying his work, fantastic informative film, I’ve picked up a bag full of tips. Hope I can do your teaching justice Dan when I build my own extension, many thanks for all your efforts and for sharing your wealth of experience.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Neil. Hope your own extension goes well 👍🏻

[@SkillBuilder]

If you are going to pitch a roof it is well worth watching Dan's other videos where he covers hips and valleys.

[@andyb3331]

Top Chippy and seems like a top geezer - nice work Dan.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Cheers Andy.

[@peternorman2563]

Brilliant chippy and nice to watch a real carefully constructed building going up !

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Peter.

[@andrewwhitehead7252]

This video is top drawer Glad to see this type of work being archived and to see quality work done by Dan top bloke big shout to Roger too for filming 😁👍🏻

[@SkillBuilder]

Many thanks

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Andrew. Definitely big shout to Roger! Great fun to film with. 🙌🏻

[@pcranebmw]

Beautiful job. Excellent workmanship.

[@robmaule4951]

Really enjoyed this one. What a nice guy Dan is and very talented carpenter. Thanks guys 👌🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🏼

[@shaunglendinning]

Great job Daniel, thanks for sharing. Thanks to Roger as well. Cheers till next time.

[@peterbell4154]

What a great bloke you are Dan down to earth straight talking not pretentious ( thanks to spell check on that one!!!) in any way and good at the job, good on you, and still no rain!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Cheers Pete, I try and forget Roger is filming so we just have a chat. Sometimes I look back and think, oops did I really say that..

[@peterbell4154]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Hi Dan, Thanks for your reply, looks to me that you are getting more confident with the filming now, keep up the good work. could you can some of that sun and send it to Suffolk if we have any more rain I won't need flippers I'll have naturally web feet!!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@peterbell4154 it’s slightly easier, it helps when I get good feedback from guys like you, so thanks. It may be wet in Suffolk but it’s a nicer part of the country. I’ll bring my rods up.

[@garethgordon9141]

Socrates said that we "learn by doing". This is the next best thing, very clear explanations, especially measuring rafter length parallel to the rafter with dimensions plumbed in, and not from the top of the ridge to the birds mouth. Really enjoyed this, thanks for the effort. Diamond Geyser!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks for the great comments. Someone commented on my last video about measuring from the top of rafter to the birdsmouth on main rafters, so I thought I would cover it and try and explain how it works.

[@garethgordon9141]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Hi Daniel

[@markhaynes6410]

Just a DIYer here for interest, but such a totally watchable video. A really nice guy steadily applying his craft in a beautiful setting and shot well too. Great to see the basics cared for and explained and of course a few tips too. 👍👍👍

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed watching it. It was a very hot day, and great fun to do. 👍

[@rogerhargreaves7726]

I enjoyed that. More videos with Dan please Rodge!

[@SkillBuilder]

Funny to see a Roger who randomly throws a d in. I don't mind because most people do it but I didn't expect to get Rodgered by a Roger

[@noskills9577]

@@SkillBuilder don’t mess with that Roger - he made the Mr Men

[@peefor135]

A delight to watch someone who really cares for the work they're doing. Loved the little dodges and shortcuts explained to the untrained masses.

[@davidmcclements4470]

Another good tutorial dan..your setting out and explanation of the way you do it is great..keep up the good work 👏👏👍🇬🇧

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks David.

[@hotchill11]

Another lovely video from skill builder with one of my favourites. Am loving this tool Dan. For those that are unsure about taking on a roof build use this tool because it did for me I built two hip roofs now using this tool. Saved me thousands. Dan it's just brilliant mamam

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks again for your great comments. Glad your liking the square! Happy roofing. 👊🏻

[@Samwise457]

What a genuinely nice guy! Anyone who works with him should think their selfs very lucky!

[@SkillBuilder]

He is and for Skill Builder he is a lucky find. I just wish we could do more with him.

[@Samwise457]

@@SkillBuilder me too! Its a joy to watch such a skilled craftsmen at work and learn at the same time!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks. I do have a younger lad with me and he’s great, very keen to learn which is good.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@SkillBuilder more asap. 👍🏻.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

Him talking about his fishing reminded me when i went fly fishing. I caught a 2lb bluebottle!

[@SkillBuilder]

We love a good joke. Do you know any?

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@@SkillBuilder i know the one about the guy who galloped off for some fly fishing and caught a horse fly!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

😂

[@tooleater3562]

A great episode and a joy to watch such a diligent time-served workman in action 🙂 Lovely music too in these videos... Really chills me out! 👍🏻

[@SkillBuilder]

Glad you enjoyed. We have more on the way

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻

[@connormcleod02]

Seems like a top guy does Dan - lovely chap, great video 👍

[@judegraham463]

Forgot to ask Dan. When you mentioned about dividing the ridge span up into equal divisions so as to even out those rafter spacings; 'when the rafter centres drift away from those standard measurements such as 400, 450, and 600 centres, which tie into all those other building materials that are needed for the roof such as insulation, plasterboard sheeting, does changing the rafter centres mess things about as far as fitting those other materials. Thanks Roger and Dan.

[@SkillBuilder]

It is best to keep the rafter spacings if you are boarding them out

[@T.E.P.]

I remember Robin doing this ..... great job gents.

[@tinytonymaloney7832]

That chippy is a credit to the trade. An I K Brunel of the carpentry world. I take my hat off and bow to such proffesionalism and craftsmenship. I hope you can pass it down to an apprentice someday. How I envy you. I can see why you are always in work. ⭐⭐⭐

[@SkillBuilder]

He has an apprentice on site 5 days a week. We can't film on the big sites.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thank you Tony for the high praise. 👍

[@robbieclarke3628]

I’m a chippy myself but I do enjoy watching some of the skill builders videos. It’s good to see the different ways that everyone does things. I much prefer Dan’s vids to robins. Robins always feel a little more forced and less real. I don’t think Dan is as natural behind the camera but that’s what makes it a little more engaging. I also think Dan is much better at explaining his method and takes the route I would. I think robin can go round the houses sometimes even for a beginner. I’ve just bought the roofing square after watching your other vid @Daniel Cox 👍

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thank you Robbie for the great message. I feel very lucky to be able to film with Roger, hopefully more on the way. Yes I’m not so natural being filmed and do find it a bit daunting but Roger usually fires a few questions and puts me at ease. Enjoy using the square. 👍🏻

[@Sjuuls3Design]

who gave Robin a day off?

[@BuildWithAE]

Awesome video Guy’s, great craftsmanship Dan love the roof square. I remember when I came across the square on Dans KZbin a year or so ago I thought then what a great bit of kit makes life easier doesn’t get in the way when dancing throu the rafters hanging off the belt clip, as Roger says in his reviews of different squares truly a well engineered and clear bit of kit, all the best Tony 👍

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Tony, and I’m glad you found me on you tube. 😉. All the best.

[@anastasis8295]

Excellent video with real craftsmanship as usual - thanks Roger and Dan. And it's nice to see a pole barn going up - I don't think we have many of them in England.

[@OfficeBoyBuilder]

I'm shortly going to be pitching my own roofs so I've just bought one of these roofing squares - it looks like a great investment to save the cost of expensive or silly mistakes!

[@rutgerhoutdijk3547]

Is it better than the roofus square?

[@SkillBuilder]

@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 It is different, the Roofus does the same thing differently, they are both good. This square is arguably idiot proof and to prove it Roger is going to pitch a hipped roof with it early next year.

[@OfficeBoyBuilder]

@@SkillBuilder I'm counting on it being idiot proof! I'm not a roofer, but I'm doing my own extension and the budget doesn't really allow for too many external contractors, nor mistakes!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@OfficeBoyBuilder thanks for buying one. Any problems drop me a message, and I’ll try and help out.

[@OfficeBoyBuilder]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. cheers mate, looking forward to giving it a whirl. I'll do a video/review on my channel too - not a big channel, but I'm sure people will be interested in seeing it being used by a layman

[@tonyalways7174]

That’s some proper quality work being done. The scarf joints are really impressive. I imagine that barn is going to outlast me for sure. 🍻

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks, I think it will out last most of us... 😬

[@garethheathcote4988]

Nice work boys,traditional roofing joinery is by far my favourite job. Once you know and understand the maths behind it it is actually pretty damn simple though I have seen plenty of people absolutely baffled by it over the years!

[@vespagd67]

Great work top crafts man stay safe

[@petel9242]

What a beautiful building that will be. Nice one Dan, Robin Clevett has some competition! Imagine you two working together, what a dream team that would be!

[@SuperWayneyb]

went beyond my skill level when he sharpened his pencil ✏️😂🤣😂🤣😂👍👍

[@judegraham463]

Hey Dan, I could see you out there with Robson Green getting sunburnt as you reel in those monster fish. Wow. that does sound exciting.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi Jude, Now your angling! Sign me up… Thanks for watching.

[@timmargereson332]

Excellent video, very informative 👍 Dan is such a nice knowledgeable fella and his roofing square is superb, really top quality and I wouldn't be without mine. You should film with Dan more, if possible. Regards Tim

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks again Tim for your continued support. 👊🏻

[@montyswoodworkscrafts2232]

Brilliant build, love stuff like that.

[@johncunningham5799]

very good work,this man knows his stuff

[@adangerousidiot]

A true tradesman and an interesting caracter.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks. 🙏

[@sammy_bw]

Don’t see many people saying good things about the Makita nail gun, it will be good to hear his thoughts on it

[@SkillBuilder]

He says it is crap.

[@sammy_bw]

@@SkillBuilder haha just what I thought😂

[@anastasis8295]

@@SkillBuilder it seemed to take a long time to recycle, and made a lot of noise in the process!

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

It’s rubbish. I bought the Makita 2 nd fix and it’s good. Thought I’d get the 1st fix , never again..

[@georgelfc1]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. hi were did you get that chunky sliding bevel from and if it's yours that you sell how can I buy one thanks

[@iangough7659]

Another good one. Learnt a lot once again. Th@nk you. Last year I passed through Vancouver to get a sea plane to Gabriola Island (15 min flight) to do a Post & Beam building course at The Island School of Building Arts

[@TheBigSugs]

Really enjoyed that, thanks 👍🏻

[@DavidJackson-vh4dw]

Love watching you guys put my head at peace till you start explaining measuring gadget went over my head

[@SkillBuilder]

Hi David Our mission is to make the seemingly impossible, possible. Stick with it and one day you will get it, I promise you.

[@chekymonkey4452]

that's looking good men

[@noskills9577]

A bloody good job 👍🏻

[@LDeezy662]

I really enjoyed that and really like that man...well done guys

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks. 👍

[@millwalltopboys]

He loves a clamp that Dan! Top chippy wish him best of luck 👍

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks, and I do love a clamp.. 😬

[@SkillBuilder]

He should be sponsored by Irwin or better still Bessey

[@lesterdewey7644]

Thanks Dan I have yet to use your square but look forward to it. Great information by the way

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks for the comment. 👍

[@jack460able]

That rafter square is the best there is and the rollers on the bench is a good idea is the roof going to have collar ties to stop the spreading of the rafters

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Yes, the collars did go in after. They went up a bit higher than usual to give it a bigger feel! Think a few lights will be hanging off them. Thanks

[@timjones3427]

More videos with this bloke please.

[@SkillBuilder]

We are trying. He is elusive

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Tim, watch this space....

[@helmutsvainovskis5967]

Thanks.

[@georgethompson997]

Super video. Dan, at 15.34, when you talk about one previous commenter saying they measure to the bird's mouth for the rafter length, and that is wrong, I wonder if what they meant is they're measure among the 1/3 line of the rafter to the bird's mouth. In that case they're correct, as their measurement (rafter length) would end up being the same as yours. I say this because the hypotenuse you calculate is a 'line' that runs along the 1/3 line of the rafter. I always refer to the rafter length as that along the 1/3 line to the bird's mouth; just an observation. Once again, I really enjoy this more' real life' video when someone is honest enough to say that 5mm or 10mm is neither here nor there on a roof like this; you're not build a Chippendale piece of furniture. The blocks to hold the string line are a great idea. Funny thing, 25/30 years ago while working with a friend, he mistakenly referred to the bird's mouth as the bird's lips. That name has stuck every since for us. Nice to see the Kapex (looks lovely and new). I know some people knock the Festool, but I've had them from early 2000 and my experience has been almost 100% positive with only one failure which was replaced without issue by Festool UK. I really use my tools too, so people who say they're not fit for hard use are entirely mistaken in my view.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks. Yes I fully understand you can measure parallel in line with the rafter however the gentleman said he measures from top of plumb cut to the birdsmouth. I think we learned at college to measure along the 1/3 line. I think if you start off very accurate you doing good, then any problems you over come but as you quite rightly say it’s not a piece of furniture and a few mm here and there are not so crucial. Can’t beat some bird lips... it’s nice to use quality tools!

[@Brian18741]

Love it

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Brian.

[@marklewisham3088]

Good Tradesman..

[@mihhan9760]

Nice job

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Much appreciated. 😉

[@jeracom]

Just when you think you have nothing left to learn lol. Great video lots of great tips from Dan well done m8 and we're can you buy your roofing square

[@SkillBuilder]

The details are in the description below the video.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks Josh.

[@wilkinsoncarpentry6278]

Gotta get him on more often

[@robertrobert4200]

Sum nice work. Looking good 👍. Them makita nail guns are rubish.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

They sure are! 😆

[@Jurassique]

Very Nice! In France we make triangles and then put them over it to make the roof... Regards

[@SkillBuilder]

We have those. They are called trusses here and they are quick and easy but no fun

[@Jurassique]

@@SkillBuilder Maybe... We call them "Ferme". But I like both methods... Many thanks for your nice work and video!! :-)

[@jasonjayalap]

Before the romans brought the triangle to hibernia, there were only squares (less stable) in Britain, as evidenced by Stonehenge.

[@SkillBuilder]

@@jasonjayalap Are you talking about the roof at Stonehenge?

[@tinytonymaloney7832]

@@SkillBuilder yes, I can see that. A hand cut roof on stonehenge, it could have been the first stone age drive thru steak house in Wiltshire. Fred and Barney have probably been there..... dammit how them fackin history books have been so wrong and mislleading!!

[@garethheathcote4988]

Dan have you ever fished Blenheim palace? I have wanted to go for years. It looks so serene out on the lake on the rowing boat that they provide you with.great video btw.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

No,,, but given the chance I’d give it a go. Glad you like the video, thanks.

[@alexbekele8945]

Literally went for a walk round there this morning. Lovely weather, they are replacing a roof there as we speak Dan could have killed two birds with one stone.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@alexbekele8945 I like your thoughts , I’ll get the saw and rods...

[@Mentorcase]

I like that square but I don't do woodwork, frustrating.

[@SkillBuilder]

Just hang it on your wall

[@petemoring67]

BRILLIANT!! ........ Hope Robins nose hasn't gone all Wonkey now ;-)

[@isaaclevy7469]

Nice bevel square! Where could i find one like that? Big fan! Cheers

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi Isaac, The bevel will be available soon… check the website. Thanks for watching.

[@benchippy8039]

Is there a more enjoyable job than building a roof. Even better on a timber frame

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

No, it’s one of my favourite aspects of carpentry. 👊🏻

[@benchippy8039]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. same here

[@denty32]

Sterling job. That square is not for me but it certainly has its place

[@SkillBuilder]

You may never use it but they look very nice hanging on your wall. I bought one for my wife.

[@logik100.0]

Can we see the rest of the build please.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

I pitched the roof, the owner has continued with the project. Perhaps I can share some photos when it’s finished. Thanks

[@daihedral9269]

Lovely job. The chippies on Skill Builder all seem to be round pegs in round holes. One question though. Does the depth of the seat cut not affect the pitch of the roof? If, for example, and to exagerate to make the issue clearer, you had a 12inch deep rafter and your birdsmouth was 1in deep , would the pitch not be different if the birdsmouth was, say, 8in deep? Or are the differences small enough to be ignored?

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

The depth of the seat cut doesn’t matter ( as long as you don’t take too much out) as the rafter will go down vertically so the pitch is still the same. This is why you measure on the top of the rafter then plumb it down. Hope it makes sense. Thanks

[@daihedral9269]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Yeah, got in now. I was probably overthinking it. Thanks for taking the time to reply, I appreciate how busy you must be.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@daihedral9269 no worries.

[@SteveAndAlexBuild]

Another master craftsman , superb 👌🏼🧱👍🏼

[@steveng5503]

Any good at crosswords? I’m a bit stuck on 30 degrees down! 😆 Well done! 👍🏻 from me! 🇬🇧

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Yes, great at crosswords. Was stuck the other day, clue..,postman’s sack? Thanks

[@stephenwatson1873]

May I ask where do you get the scissor supports from for supporting the timbers on the mitre saw?

[@SkillBuilder]

Axminster Tools

[@djvasforever]

Hello guys, could you squeeze out a video on how to measure degrees of a hip ridge joining 2 different pitches. I've done a lot of trial and error and calculus and trigonometry and in-situ mark and cut and still haven't figured out how to do it.

[@expressionevents3029]

Which clamps are those Please? Great Job, pleasure to watch.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi expression events, I use a few different clamps. Probably Irwin, however Bessey make very good ones. Many thanks.

[@ToffeeApple]

Can only imagine what the Yanks think of Dan’s accent?

[@SkillBuilder]

I am sure they will tell us

[@jasonjayalap]

Wa yumee yu sure dey wih teylus? I dun tel ehnee diffruns

[@fmitchell7442]

Why no scaffolding or tower?

[@jasonantigua6825]

Scaffolding is for wimps!

[@SkillBuilder]

Jason We don't want to promote bad practice but these guys assess the risks and chose to work off step ladders on a job like this because it is easier than spending half the day moving a tower around. The ability to move around safely when constructing a roof is a skill you have to learn and it takes years. If you aren't confident then don't do it.

[@spacemanclips]

@@SkillBuilder Problem is, that's not the view the HSE would have if they stumbled across the site, or the courts would have if an accident happened. I do agree with what you say though!

[@andyboy189]

Is Robin on furlough?

[@aliones]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Pete.Ty1]

😊👍

[@davidprice9265]

The only people who worry about 5 mill are bankers not roof carpenters 😄

[@iangough7659]

What is the width of the building?

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

It’s about 4-5 meters, I can’t remember.. it was just under 10 m long. 🙈

[@iangough7659]

Thanks mate, it was just to get an idea of the width in proportion to the 9.6m length. Scarf joints were brilliant.

[@zuluula]

4:42 must of been a thinking fart :) I do plenty of those when I try to focus haha. Great job anyway

[@paulbishop2161]

What size is the ridge beam?

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi Paul, I think it’s they was 175 mm (7 inch) Usually the ridge is wider than the rafters. Thanks

[@paulbishop2161]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Thanks for the reply. Was that speced by an engineer? It seems on the small size for such a large span. Or is it because it's not a residential build that you can get away with a smaller ridge beam? Thanks

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@paulbishop2161 no worries. Yes basically because it’s just a out building no engineer was involved. It had a very light roof covering so the 145 mm rafters are ok, and at 400 mm centres. It had sterling board on top, think 12 mm. It was a while back now and the memory is going..

[@Weelav]

What are those pencil/pens called at about the 15min mark please?

[@vespagd67]

Tracer deep hole marker £7.95 from tool station or Pica deep hole marker both sold on Amazon and Ebay

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@vespagd67 I had a tracer, not so good. My pica is better.

[@vespagd67]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Had a pica Acer markal and Hultafors all failed currently using Tracer seems ok at the moment

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@vespagd67 opps my other one was a acer, bought it from tool station. One thing I’ve learnt is to blow the dust out so it grips the lead.

[@vespagd67]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. The Acer ones are crap the top sharpener kept falling off The Tracer ones are a lot better the sharpener is in the holster .like you say blow the dust out

[@bikecurious9163]

How long before the warriors are in saying they wouldn’t have done it that way

[@alan36753]

Well five mins in and I’m cringing at a guy pushing heavy timbers on side nails up a ladder without even wearing a hard hat. Yep I wouldn’t have done it that way chap. Notched boards at each end pushed vertically from the ground.then dropped into notches in the boards

[@140rware]

There is always someone like you, you can't do it but you comment on someone who can. I measure birdsmouth depth up, but not to the top of the rafter. It achieves exactly the same and is millimetre perfect. It is not the same but does that make me a warrior you prick. I can do this but clearly; you can't.

[@bikecurious9163]

@@140rware 😂

[@ozzyefc44]

Great workmanship but if it’s a video on roofs I was expecting to see robin 😂

[@SkillBuilder]

Robin is not the only carpenter on Skill Builder. We are lucky to have so many good people.

[@ozzyefc44]

@@SkillBuilder I realise that but he’s been on the most so we’ve just become accustomed to seeing him

[@SkillBuilder]

@@ozzyefc44 He has his own channel now

[@ozzyefc44]

@@SkillBuilder I know I’ve subscribed to it

[@themetalmicky]

he looks more like Steve Davis than McQueen

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

😂

[@SkillBuilder]

Steve Davis Plumstead Daniel Cox Dartford not a million miles apart and both top of their game.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@SkillBuilder 😂

[@Virdi_Vibez]

Where can I purchase the product ?

[@SkillBuilder]

🛒 www.essential-carpenter-tools...

[@paulmurphy9663]

It might be a stupid question but why is he trying to build that on his own ?

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

The owner was helping me hold the ridge up. Once that’s up, it’s easy on your own dropping the rafters in. 😉

[@paulmurphy9663]

Thanks for the reply Dan 👍 your a true craftsman excellent work

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@paulmurphy9663 thank you. 👊🏻

[@Patrick_86]

Hi Dan, thanks for the education! I would like to build sutch a barn myself but im twisted about the wood sizes to use. Can you share the dimensions used for this barn? And do you have more footage about this building, for ea the ground work / roof / wall finishing / final result? Would be great to hear from you! Kind regards Patrick

[@SkillBuilder]

Hi Patrick Dan was there to do the roof. It was the clients build so all the rest of it wasn't filmed. We will try and get some start to finish projects out soon.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Hi Patrick, as Roger mentioned I only built the roof and the customer supplied all the timbers etc. Hope your barn build goes well.

[@Patrick_86]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. hi Daniel thanks for the reply, can you tell what size the timber was you used, rafters (A) where some 120mm x ?? The horizontal timber (B) (where the rafters where attached on) was the same dimensions as the rafters? The vertical timber (C) fixed in the ground 150x150? Would be really helpful if you can share

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

@@Patrick_86 the rafters were 150 mm (6 inch ). We fixed some 150mm as a ceiling tie reasonably high up, and timber locked them for strength ( bolt) The timbers horizontal which I pitched off were 200mm I think the vertical upright were at least 150mm if not bigger. I did put 18 mm Sterling board on top then it was covered with a waterproof covering.

[@lucaslittmarck6804]

All dimensions is off by a factor of 2.... If it was to be legally built in sweden ( to account for dynamic wind and snow loads. ). :)

[@harrybetts4875]

Heard of bird cage??

[@carpenterkleiv]

Nice build, but you don't use scaffold over there in England?

[@SkillBuilder]

We use sacaffolding but not on this job. We had some good ladders.

[@carpenterkleiv]

@@SkillBuilder 🙂 Thank you for producing good content👍

[@protectiongeek]

Another great video from SB. Really love watching these skilled craftsmen at work. Have to say though, as a retired electrical engineer with many years' experience of working on sites of all sizes, some of the - ahem - 'health and safety practices' looked a bit too risky. Winced a bit to see guys not wearing gloves handling timber and standing on top step of stepladders!!! I realise that using platforms is not easy when you're constantly having to manoeuvre around the structure and it adds to costs but a lot of work from ladders/steps in this vid wouldn't be allowed on any sites I've worked on. I'm genuinely interested to hear what other craftsmen reading this comment think. Is this fairly common practice?

[@SkillBuilder]

Hi Craig I think the world is moving on from step ladders and the like but they are portable and can work well enough if you engage your brain. I have been on a PASMA course and a scaffolding course and got the certificates but I have yet to see anyone construct a tower or scaffolding in a manner that complies with the requirements. The falls from heights among scaffolders have increased, which seems to suggest we have simply shifted the risk from one group to another. I see plenty of scaffolders wearing the harness but not clipping in. This is great for the employer who simply points to the employee's negligence.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

Thanks for your comments Craig, glad you liked it. I quite often use steps, and yes I shouldn’t stand on the top run. However I’ve been using them quite a number of years and make a mental assessment when using them. I recently see a young chap walk backwards on a scaffold and put his foot between two boards as it’s a independent scaffolding and had a fall.

[@protectiongeek]

Thanks for your replies gentlemen. It is a marginal call sometimes deciding what access method to use and there are always grey areas. I'd be fibbing if I said I hadn't used slightly inappropriate methods on more than one occasion myself. This brief discussion has made me wonder if there might not be some scope for a SB episode on project health and safety, Roger. I say this as someone who is at the start of a house extension project and our architect has made it clear that she does not offer Principal Contractor services as part of her remit. She has explained that the CDM regs apply to domestic clients now and I wonder how many viewers of your channel might benefit from a general overview of the requirements for the management of H&S on domestic projects.

[@kvaegenbjergvej]

I hope that the rafter is gong through the cement, if not it rotten Quick.

[@SkillBuilder]

I have no idea what you mean.

[@frazzle657]

I really don't understand how the depth of your birdsmouth isn't going to affect your pitch as in the angle of it. Imagine a really wide plate it's sat on and you have say 5 inches remaining from the 6 inches of your rafter it would ever drop the whole rafter lower, or the length would need to to increase and the angle changed to accommodate it.

[@SkillBuilder]

if the depth of the birdsmouth is increased the whole rafter drops down but the angle remains the same. This is why the height above plate is measured on a common rafter.

[@frazzle657]

@@SkillBuilder thanks for the reply. Does it not matter that it's dropped down as it won't meet the top of the ridge or maybe the bottom depending if the inside is going to be peaked?

[@frazzle657]

@@SkillBuilder does the height above plate come into the equation for the length of the rafter?

[@silvervanmanfly]

Fishing, gets obsessive so takes up cycling. lol.

[@Ultimate-roofing-square.]

I’m not obsessed by cycling, yet...

[@SkillBuilder]

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Give it time