Skilling Open Day 8 Finals | Carlsen vs So | ft. Sagar, Amruta, Soumya

[@shubhankarkulkarni4637]

Sagar and Soumya should have a podcast with Rajdabov. He's a gem!

[@shubhankarkulkarni4637]

@General Miller Yeah, I watched it. I meant they should do it separately on any other topic.

[@Phurngirathaana]

It's Radjabov

[@durgeshkulkarni1412]

Legend Giri -"After Samay and Sagars beef, wait not beef, you cant have beef in India Whats the other word?" LMAO 3:57:15

[@sanjusabu5488]

I like Radja..He just has no "politically correct" filter and so he brings out the most difficult discussions seemlessly into an conversation..Which brought about a great discussion on the panel!! Also guys, stop hating on someone for putting out their views..🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@manthankhawse4770]

Sagar ran 2 km because he had to stream that day Samay is running more than 2 km everyday because he streamed someday🤣🤣

[@ashfaq8238]

Watched the whole topic unfold and it was great fun to watch how the whole argument/debate went through. With Radja starting that the format of having women being able to participate in both, the open tournaments and women only tournaments is unfair. The argument was going well and Soumya kept her view that women tournaments help in encouraging the girls to take up chess as their career which wouldn't have been possible earlier. In the initial half of the argument it seemed to look like that Radja was pressing and going back to his original take about having only one category. I was finding it difficult to digest on how Radjabov was not understanding the importance of such initiatives but I later realised the kind of society they grew up in. This struck my mind when Radjabov was surprised that there are special Women only section public transports in India. Anyways the chat seemed to be biased towards one thinking that someone got triggered. Ps: It was an healthy debate. Big props to Sagar on how he concluded the argument by asking the right questions and being the mediator.

[@shubhamsawant4832]

Chat is always like that..I have already stopped seeing the chat .. Btw The argument is very healthy ..Not an argument more like a discussion maybe..and would like to see more discussions like this.

[@lifeenjoy.]

Timestamp 4:24:50

[@banuprakashhosmani2806]

Did he reach home safely?❤️

[@ChessBaseIndiachannel]

Yes I did Banuprakash! Thanks for the comment! :)

[@cpgautam172]

@@ChessBaseIndiachannel so the door was open?

[@notashishjaiman21]

@@ChessBaseIndiachannel omg I can read it in sagar shah' voice..noway !

[@sujalbandhkar1972]

@@ChessBaseIndiachannel who is this sagar or amruta? 😂

[@adityatiwari1022]

No sugarcoating speaking from the heart ! Thats our Radja and Soumya

[@vivekvaghela2274]

No one . Literally no one . Raja: why men are not allowed in beach volleyball????!!!!???

[@yashmhatre3145]

Whatever you guys say about Radjabhov but you have.to agree he brings up some great topics to talk on and don't judge him yaar he didn't knew much about the Indian culture nd stuff so that's fine chill out guys!!!!

[@Kuhu23]

What Indian culture? You know he lives in a country with authoritarian regime right? He is very well aware of patriarchal culture and is very much a part of it.

[@kartik180rajesh1]

Timestamp of the reservation discussion?

[@rishabhgoyal4117]

5:08:39 everyone talking. Sagar dodging mosquitoes.😂😂😂

[@shubhamagrawal2426]

I feel it ❤️ 🥍🦟

[@qwer99ful]

4:07:57 is best

[@sukhmeetsingh2928]

So happy to see Wesley sir smiling after winning game 2. What a fight by both players. Such a gentleman Wesley sir is.

[@ritiksharma1250]

Sagar plz don't stop these post match podcast stuff ... They r so good... Radja Soumya and amruta had no filters and these type of person we really need ..where both side put their perspective and talk openly.. Nowdays it's too much fakeness and drama around the world..and seeing these 3 people was so refreshing and intersting... I hope this thing never stops .. And again samay and sagar r the best duo I hv seen ever.... Cheers

[@salonigrover96]

Great discussions , like really got a feeling of 3 am conversations which are deep and meaningful, a wholesome experience ❤️

[@adityatiwari1022]

You can buy love you can buy friendship but you cannot buy Birthday videos. -Anish Giri

[@prathameshpolsane7514]

Omg Sagar dada this is insane dedication....in the amidst of Corona...whnere CBI office is closed for 8 months , you opened for stream , went running to the office , streamed for 5.30 hours with only single water bottle and being sorrounded by mosquitoes....please be safe Sagar dada ....don't take such risks , I Know you love chess and your audience but still take care of yourself first have a good rest today♥️ Also it was so nice of Amruta tai concerning about your eating ...you both are such a gem♥️....also its so risky going back home all alone on streets at midnight ....be safe take care and thankyou so much for taking such insane risks♥️♥️♥️♥️also your office is too good♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@ankitt_v]

You explain so much while making it so easy to understand even for a newbie like me its very difficult but you do it so effortlessly, thank you from bottom of my heart.

[@sumashetty6753]

Sagar sir 18 on trending! Amazing commentary! Hats of to you sir !!

[@anujkr6039]

Trending where, in game section

[@nimitsharma7100]

I don't know how putting up your opinion can trigger someone. Everyone has the right to say whatever they feel. I personally completely agree with Radja's point of view. I believe if there is just open category then women will definitely prove themselves and be in the top players and once women start coming in the top, there will be no need for ENCOURAGEMENT for them to take up chess as a career (although I agree that this change should start from junior category and then extended to all age group with time as Soumya said). The top women players will give them the inspiration and encouragement and there will no longer be a need for women category tournaments.. I have this opinion. You can differ, but you can not force your opinion to anyone.

[@teddyfinger1766]

Han yaar guys I mean it’s complete common sense it’s is not just the the boys who are inspired by Dhoni or there are not only girls who are inspired by PV Sindhu I mean anyone who has that talent should get why in the fuckin hell the gender has any role to play ahh we have lacked common sense since ages and it’s not just us it’s the scene of many major countries as well , has to be changed

[@akankshagarg6974]

So you basically agree with soumyas point right. Soumya was saying the same thing that change has to be brought but methodically, you cna not just remove all of it in one day.

[@kad1v]

@@akankshagarg6974 yeah it can't be implemented immediately. But it should be implemented slowly.

[@nimitsharma7100]

@@teddyfinger1766 True :)

[@nimitsharma7100]

@@akankshagarg6974 When did I say that I disagree with her? I just gave Radja the credit as he first brought this interesting point of just open category and then only Soumya came up with that idea, the implementation stated by Soumya was very correct.

[@sukrit110]

Radjabov is a very straight forward guy. I loved the way he gives his opinion and also logically substantiate his points on legal basis. And people talking about him being ignorant of Indian culture, bear in mind that he was discussing something which is global. Chess is not limited to India. So if he is surprised about women reservation in public places he will equally be surprised by such preferences in the chess world. And most importantly people should just not resort to their own examples that in my family such things happened or such was the situation. Because the problem is, with that logic you'll always have some examples contrary to yours. So, better is to have a holistic approach and bring some statistics to back your argument. And then some silly questions like why Amruta is being asked about what did she cook and why not Sagar asked for that. Then with such questionaire, someday someone will ask that why is it always joked about that Sagar will have to sleep on couch after some argument and not vice versa. Such silly questions makes the discussion a bit childish.

[@jnandeeptalukdar4857]

I hate when in an argument a person brings in anecdotal evidence rather than putting out statistical evidence.

[@alicesachdeva7369]

I completely agree with all the points Radja gave!!!!

[@upanshumore6489]

yaaa

[@vikramadityavardhan4067]

But his points were completely wrong.

[@vonneumann3592]

@@vikramadityavardhan4067 specifically why?

[@chandru1966]

Always a pleasure when people of different countries talk seamlessly in any topic and make it entertaining #IndianInNetherlands👌 Hats off everyone!

[@priyaagarwal7790]

I support the discussion and points put forward by Radja, he was right at so many points and yes Soumya di suggested a great idea at the end but it can be done turnaround way like keeping juniors board so girls are inspired to enter chess and they know that after 10 or 12 they have to play in open and like this a rule that they know from first ...maybe Great streams and great topics too ❤️

[@sanjayadanavadi]

Sir 37 on trending wow first time a chess stream has went to trending main list this is great for chess

[@Shreyank01]

No bro cob-3 all streams were on trending And previous tournament which was on Samay’s channel also came on trending and infact it reached 68k live watching

[@sanjayadanavadi]

They were trending for gaming weren't they

[@ritiksharma1250]

@@Shreyank01 yup but they trended for gaming...but it doesn't matter ...samay n sagar r awesome

[@Shreyank01]

@@ritiksharma1250 👍

[@madhavtibrewal4924]

Soumya said any type of reservation is for a limited time.... Well do you look at reservations in education??? Well I do not think that is for limited time and it is not going to change for atleast coming 30 years. Kudos to sagar for explaining everything so well and clearly

[@romitparakh1470]

4:07:20 thank me later😂😂

[@HansNieman]

😂😂😂

[@kartik180rajesh1]

69 op

[@singhdeepak1998]

Look at Saumya's reaction at 69

[@keyur1011if]

For Radjabov in finance many people do not go to gym before trading, exercise makes them pumped and they over trade or they are exhausted and take decision without full calculations. Maybe same is true for chess.

[@sanjaykrishnan8379]

4:24:50 start of a brilliant conversation..

[@fpurohit933]

Radja brings some sort of special energy in the stream and Sagar you do a great work promoting chess in India and also yours streams are treasure.#sagarop#radjaop#soumyaop#amrutaop

[@harishchoudhary31]

Trending on 18🙂🙂🙂

[@varunbhaaskar3338]

Listened to the whole discussion with a very open mind. One intersting point that came up is whether the system in place to bring equality actually work?. This question needs to be answered in great depth. Also when taking into consideration the reservation system in india for so called backward communities, it has been in place since 1947 when we got independence. It has been 70 odd years already and it is still in place and even misused by many. How long this reservation has to continue until equality is reached? Why is there no improvement even after 70 long years? It is also getting misused, for eg. people very well off still benefit from these reservation system which shouldn't be so. If you find time, please discuss this on stream. Thank you for this amazing stream! Epic last one and half an hours❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@nimitsharma7100]

Agreed, Thats the main problem with this reservation way of encouraging... what is the guarantee that it will be removed once equality is achieved? The same example of caste reservation system came to my mind.. Been 70 years and I can only see it increasing in the near future.

[@sparshailawadi7129]

I mean, if you think about it, 70 years is nothing compared to the time for which the caste system has existed. So while it is not possible to quantify a time for the reservation system to be cut off, it has to be given more time for its effect to be seen in the larger population.

[@Neelinmact]

Nimit Sharma well we can certainly look at the proportion of population and their representation in govt ,,, are they politically economically and socially well off like others ,,,, 1000 years of social discrimination does not end in 70 years ,,, reservation system becomes redundant once there is equality ,,,

[@speeddemon2901]

I was Jee aspirant . There is this reservation category for almost everything . which is a good thing (for those who really need it) but also bad. it is like the reservation is based on caste system . It should be more like based on the economic conditions. Nowadays there are many rich family who have reservation as well . in a way it destroys he quality of student coming into to the most prestigious colleges , because a general candidate needs to crack into the top 10000 to get a proper shot into IIT . But a reserved candidate needs to get 50000 rank only . so you see the better deserving candidates dont get the college that they want . this ruins the quality of the students coming out of IITs etc. a strong evidence to support my point is that the iit have slipped in the world ranking in the last 5 years from top 100 to around 250, which is really sad to see as Indians are really good engineers but we dont have the proper college to showcase the talent.

[@darkhorse3540]

I've checked data it's being filled 50%only

[@kartik180rajesh1]

5:17:25 kerosene radjabov

[@kartik180rajesh1]

5:19:31 origin story of chessbase india

[@mirkot.m9639]

Muy amena la transmisión. Un lujo tener a Radjabov en los comentarios .

[@Shekhar21402]

Well this stream was a bit different

[@devynkumar1997]

only reason Radja or Anish mentioned cooking was because Amruta said Sagar hasn't eaten and what would he eat it wasn't out of the blue... but that being said valid points

[@royalmaddy0135]

Sagar bhai , your dedication is superb respect

[@ApexPredator21]

Radja is just too Awesome ❤️❤️❤️ Thanks for the bringing up such an important topic.

[@rahulquark]

Since Bobby Fischer being misogynistic and claiming women cannot compete with men in chess and should stay at home to Radja, Anish , Sagar supporting equal section for both in chess much has changed in the society with time and rightly so.

[@debarunbhattacharya7794]

Who cares about fischer... he ran away from defending his title, moreover he became champion ONLY because spassky agreed to his terms, no one chess player would

[@gagandeepsinghbindra]

Thanks a lot sagar for providing timestamps. I feel asleep while watching yesterday now I'll catch up🙏

[@utkarshshrivastava7939]

1:44:00 Happy Birthday Magnus

[@durgeshkulkarni1412]

Sagar Sir, Did you reach home safely?

[@04Njr]

Actually who won

[@symba-uo3os]

So who is winning???

[@tanmayborse8585]

Amazing idea of adding timestamps. Chessbase India OP

[@anant_shinde]

What a perfect stream 😜💓 Enjoyed alot ❤️🔥 Goodmorning who woke up Goodnight to those who are about to sleep 💗🤗

[@rachitabilloray2032]

Good morning 😂😂

[@mrxyz9519]

Guys, i am doing you favour... Just listen from the moment anish joins.. Gold❤️

[@mitviksihag4743]

I couldn't watch the stream Was there a tie?

[@ratnabaivarma853]

Ya

[@silverzero9524]

magnus won 2 so won 2

[@vaibhavop4059]

Whozz the winner of the tournament??

[@ajcreations69]

Raja & Saumya op🔥 Great discussion

[@vishalmohan754]

What an epic stream. Really loved it. Thank you Sagar sir and Amruta mam.

[@AYUSHGamingTV]

30:39 it cannot be a draw, it's a won for Magnus in this position, I analyzed this

[@AYUSHGamingTV]

In this position magnus will end up with a queen and king, Wesley will have only king, I analyzed all the possibilities

[@saifkhan5509]

Hats off sagar bhai 😘❤

[@narayannale2278]

This stream trending on no. 18,

[@ankitpatel0698]

thanks for the timestamp

[@afnankhan3653]

I want Wesely to win.....❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@adude386]

Good discussion.

[@harshitsrivastava3327]

Very logical discussion

[@HansNieman]

Great content!

[@peekaboo6026]

Bro these are wrong time stamp

[@pujitjha]

Why would the income of some female players Anish mentioned reduce? Because if they are let's say 2550, if they participate in a tournament of players around 2600, you will get the prize. You can't say that it will decrease because players like Magnus will earn much more simply because 2850 is much greater than 2550, and Magnus deserves that.

[@barunbodhak720]

Cany anyone say what's the score. Please. Dont have a decent internet connection today. Any newspaper link would also help. Never mind it was a draw for today

[@royalmaddy0135]

chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/champions-chess-tour-skilling-open-2020-knockout/6/1/4

[@royalmaddy0135]

chess24 tournaent link!

[@vanshsiddhpura340]

It is trending at #26 gg chess is growing

[@yogikkhurana]

Thumbnails are a life saver xD🔥

[@hetmistry987]

Tania sachdev completed 50 k now dare time for her

[@TechLeague_84]

Amazing stream!!!

[@arjaysarmiento5437]

Who won this match 1?

[@debarunbhattacharya7794]

Both won 1-0, 0-1, 1-0, 0-1 both the players won with white

[@swaroop2518]

They all are making jokes about sagar getting beaten by amruta. People are laughing on jokes of wife beating husband. And few minutes before they all are criticising the sexist jokes. joking about men beating women will be considered as rude and domestic violence.

[@devynkumar1997]

Also Soumya is so sweet and protective!

[@mayursm]

Radja starts Debate from 4:24:51

[@Keshavsood74938]

Can you tell when will the next stream start

[@swaroop2518]

We generally say that encourage women in all good things and i agree with that. But then Why don't we encourage females in tough works like mining, heavy constructions, fire fighters etc. Why those things are always done by men. Why all the marital rights, violence rights are female biased. Everyone ignore and laugh at violence against men. then why don't we encourage men in female dominated things like teaching, nursing etc. In professions like primary teaching and nursing there are reservations for female even if they have majority. Why dont we make it equal rights and equal responsibilities.

[@anishajain6370]

Well i agree with everything else you said. But it is indeed true that most men are physically stronger than most women so many women won't be as efficient in physically demanding jobs as men. But i guess if a woman can be as good as a man than they should be encouraged to take tough jobs. Just my opinion✌

[@CertifiedGenius007]

This is my no-filter opinion on this topic. The business world has taken too much advantage of our physical nature/urges alone and have stunted both men and women's complete growth. They have programmed the whole world through movies, advertising, media etc. over such a long period of time in such a way that men only have to care about a women's appearance and women only have to care about a man's value/power in the society.. This is an efficient strategy to pool back all the money into them. The day we start to not worship what's on the other side of the screen, is the day we are already empowered as men and women. The only thing the society has to ensure is equality of opportunity. If we instead go for equality of outcome, we are doomed.

[@jnandeeptalukdar4857]

Nice argument buddy!!

[@abhilashcool18]

Ohh!! I could have made a vlog today...... Sagar OP!!

[@adude386]

Rajdabov not accepting that people are getting more conscious of what they eat. People choosing less meat. And that is a cultural gap. But it is refreshing to have someone who talks his truth;' without political correctness filter.

[@anemicsouls]

( this is my personal view,if someone have different then discuss it but don't point fingers; I am not a chess player, I occasionally play chess ) I think 1) In open , prizes for men and women should be equal for prizes. 2) In junior's tournament, there should be no boys and girls section. 3) For women's tournaments, few prizes can be free training for open . 4) Workshops for girls in schools to encourage them. 5) no different titles for women 6) environment where men and women can learn and participate equally.

[@rahulningwal3327]

Amruta op sagar op radja op anish op and obviously soumya op❤☸much love... 💗

[@adude386]

Not arguing about who is right.

[@kaustavbiswas1142]

Awesome stream

[@ekanshjadon]

Sagar Try one stream without using chess engines while analysing live games Chess games have this beauty of finding a move that no one could see and I believe only you can pull off a commentary without chess engines!

[@scalpel5571]

He likes it without engine bar... But then chat continuously spams bar bar bar... Then he has to turn it on eventually

[@ekanshjadon]

@@scalpel5571 true that dude People don't have patience the size of sand grain these days

[@Malious]

Podcast part is too good!

[@manishmohapatra8320]

Radja should start a podcast 🤘

[@rajatsharma4933]

4:10:22 🤣🤣

[@sanjaybharade5043]

Who won

[@yashthakker5138]

No one tie

[@maipranavhoon]

Joke about amruta hitting sagar is funny no ? Now imagine a joke vice versa , Hello , hello "equality" hello , you there?

[@ritiksharma1250]

Good one... But there always be gender biased be it a Patriarchal or matriarchal society ... So I support women empowerment but not unnecessary pseudo feminisms.

[@dead_people_been_quite_since]

Context is important for every joke. Men beating their wives has a history. And certain controversial lines in the major religions of the world justify beating the wife. There isn't EQUALITY or balance in male on female violence & female on male violence

[@harshrajjadhav940]

@@dead_people_been_quite_since most people don’t understand this basic premise

[@kartik180rajesh1]

Timestamp

[@swaroop2518]

Response to queen in north. You are saying that women have not equal rights as men. See if you read all the laws then you will know that law provides more rights to women than men. All marital laws, violence laws, custody laws are women biased. Laws generally ignore abuse against men. Everyone laughs on violence against men. But problem is in the mentality of people that they doesn't encourage and allow women to do many things See i agree with you that indian society does not treat women equally and reservation is needed.

[@abhiramnatuva9650]

GREAT WORK SAGAR BHAI!

[@krushalthakur404]

Sagar bhai, abhi bhi time hai.. GM ban jaao... Aap aaram se ban jaaoge... 😀 Aapko har ek famous game pata hota hai.. aapko har ek ONLY move pata hota hai, etc GM Sagar Shah 🔥

[@gauri6740]

Raja is innocent. He is new to the word of streaming and being politically correct. So it's ok. He will learn slowly. But do keep letting him come to the stream.

[@gauri6740]

Chess players are new to the limelight unlike say cricket where they have PR and media team to always prepare them for neutral answer. But the innocence of all the players is what makes them real and o admire that. In the world of social media I understand it’s tough and you can be misunderstood but I will pray that all of them enjoy the limelight and will learn gradually. Sending love to the chess world.

[@jnandeeptalukdar4857]

I always love to hear unique and unpopular opinions rather than politically correct opinions. But such opinions can bring in harm to the individual specially in these days where cancel culture is so strong.

[@gauri6740]

@@jnandeeptalukdar4857 exactly the cancel culture doesn't allow players to be open. I love this chess community so much because of their innocence and purity. But at the same time I would want them not to harm themselves because of the social media perception. So it's important for them to be guarded and talk only fun stuff.

[@jnandeeptalukdar4857]

@@gauri6740 So true. Completely agree on this.

[@shubhamagrawal2426]

Hamare Lie Kya Kya Karte Ho Sir !!! 🙌🏼💖❤️💖🙇🏻

[@udaybhaskar7513]

The best comment that i saw in the live chat "Someone please call Emil Sutovsky🤣🤣"

[@aasthasharma1358]

Amazing stream!!! ❤️ @3:47:18 office tour

[@rakshitshetty1899]

The discussion should be on if having a separate tourney for women actually helps them bridge the gap. Because, considering both improve at the same rate the levels will never match and the final goal of just 1 section can never be achieved.

[@shubham_banka]

5:10:00

[@chiragmittal3313]

Radja is superb.

[@Shivam0217]

Live chat is much funnier ... #sagarwantstogohome #mosquitoop ....

[@devynkumar1997]

Radja just won't let things be lol

[@aaryanagarwal3709]

Amruta OP!!!!!!!!!

[@hasabnis]

I want to preface this by saying that I like Radjabov a lot as a chess player and in general as a person. I feel like he is honest and not afraid to say his own thoughts. However, in my opinion he came across as someone who was deeply uninformed and stubborn to opposing views. Maybe it could be because of privilege of being born in a society where these issues are not prevalent but it is extremely shortsighted to think of everything in an idealistic manner. I agree with every single thing Soumya said and most of what Sagar and Amruta said. Yes, we want equality in the society. BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WHEN THE CULTURE PERPETUATES INEQUALITY. This is NOT a CHESS problem. It is a societal issue. And so we need to encourage women to play chess and get the participation at a certain level before even thinking of equality. It will take a long time just like in other facets of society. My two cents. But these conversations are important. I would like to thank everyone who participated in it and I hope everyone who listened to it got a slightly better understanding of the topic and the various viewpoints. I certainly did. Love you @sagar bhai.

[@danielhutchinson2133]

Just because Radja is bored with Wesley's win in the fourth game, he must be a buzzkill?

[@swaroop2518]

Sexist jokes are made against men also. A wife beating husband is always considered as funny, even in movies it is shown as funny. But opposite will always be considered as rude and abuse.. Example thappad movie is made on that.

[@n.emisisxx7]

I 101% agree with you, these all things are a part of Fake Feminism...............! Now,Do you agree with me? 101%😂😂😂😂😂