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@correastudio6576
@correastudio6576 8 жыл бұрын
H.O.F isn't about being a nice teammate its about being the best football player at his position in a given era . Cant dismiss the numbers!
@donsremodeling
@donsremodeling 5 жыл бұрын
TO has 90+ more TD's than Irving, why is this even a conversation?
@robertweatherspoon4422
@robertweatherspoon4422 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder..........did T.O. bone Skips girl?
@visualizeme-tz3ng
@visualizeme-tz3ng 8 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@eliezermartinez9385
@eliezermartinez9385 8 жыл бұрын
i think he did and taped it
@kolleo13
@kolleo13 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@Forever.Remain.Nameless
@Forever.Remain.Nameless 8 жыл бұрын
him and Floyd ran a train on her...
@disappointedknicksfan5042
@disappointedknicksfan5042 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot LeBron and Aaron Rodgers...
@mr2seven6
@mr2seven6 8 жыл бұрын
Shannon sharpe is legit as they come as far as analyst go
@rogerjones8569
@rogerjones8569 8 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@TheOriginalGankstar
@TheOriginalGankstar 8 жыл бұрын
Best on football out of Undisputed and First Take. How will his basketball be though when the season starts?
@jamescaucstorm8630
@jamescaucstorm8630 8 жыл бұрын
Well said
@ADG.Est.1988
@ADG.Est.1988 8 жыл бұрын
do you feel skip and shannon have better chemistry than he and Stephen A. Smith
@Solomonreborn
@Solomonreborn 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. I love the insight Sharpe brings. Real talk about the game.
@cget
@cget 8 жыл бұрын
We got rapists, murderers, and drug users in the HoF. But let's keep a guy out because he was an annoying teammate and showboat.
@cget
@cget 8 жыл бұрын
Enrique Godinez Hey idiot, I was just making the point that people have done worse and got inducted into the HoF.
@Drethomas0731
@Drethomas0731 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Pamphile facts
@Tobyee
@Tobyee 5 жыл бұрын
*Yessssss*
@gertrudemcfuzz74
@gertrudemcfuzz74 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@LplusRatioplusNobodyCares
@LplusRatioplusNobodyCares 3 жыл бұрын
False equivalency but ok
@H1GHD3FF
@H1GHD3FF 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is judging him in the locker room. Instead of judging him on the field.
@jeremiahgraham1157
@jeremiahgraham1157 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Its not the hall of fame for "good teammates", or "good locker room presence." All that should matter is what he did between the lines.
@ZeroSum23
@ZeroSum23 8 жыл бұрын
Shannon is wearing purple.
@H1GHD3FF
@H1GHD3FF 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is salty for TO telling to kick rocks and squeeze a butt cheeks
@davidjackdon1548
@davidjackdon1548 8 жыл бұрын
It's obvious,Skip never played connect four,for dam sure not football.
@AlexisSnyders
@AlexisSnyders 8 жыл бұрын
If he actually had team success on the field, you'd have a point.
@KamikOzzy_
@KamikOzzy_ 8 жыл бұрын
This show made me forget about First take.
@FreshNewzTV
@FreshNewzTV 8 жыл бұрын
you right
@seal3081
@seal3081 8 жыл бұрын
weird right. But I'm sure coming NBA time first take will get more interesting. Basketball is SAS's thing.
@minidragon17
@minidragon17 8 жыл бұрын
What's so great? He talked to T.O. a few months ago on First Take. Max is more entertaining to listen than this clown Skip. He's contradicting himself by telling T.O. on FT that he will vouch for him as 2nd ballot
@Weeeeee711
@Weeeeee711 8 жыл бұрын
a show that's exactly the same thing talking about the same topics with the same format with Skip Bayless (again) made you forget about First Take? Huh? What?!?! Skip is the definition of a one trick pony...he said all this crap (with probably 99% of the same words) 5-10 years ago. Take Shannon Sharpe off this show and it's complete recycled garbage!
@Solomonreborn
@Solomonreborn 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's the same show. Skip doesn't evolve. I like Skip as well. However, his Tim Tebow praise and his Lebron hate is tired and boring.
@comedianwoodywood6237
@comedianwoodywood6237 8 жыл бұрын
Skip has no argument, but he insists on saying something. HOF is about the most talented that fulfilled it.
@michaelheath9012
@michaelheath9012 8 жыл бұрын
It's called karma man. But it won't matter T.O. is such a narcissist all he will do is bitch and complain instead of reflecting on what an asshole he was. T.O. will eventually get in. But they're going to make sure he gets a slap or 2 in the face of his ego first to make a point.
@RubbinRobbin
@RubbinRobbin 8 жыл бұрын
He fullfilled it for San Francisco with a major catch but is that enough?
@Canteenboy117
@Canteenboy117 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Unless you commit a major crime
@bigtim7059
@bigtim7059 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is full of it. More than have the peeps in the Hall had issues worse than T.O.. Its about numbers and contribution to the game. THATS IT!
@RubbinRobbin
@RubbinRobbin 8 жыл бұрын
They Shot Malcom imo, TO would have won a superbowl with McNabb if it weren't for that asterisk on New England. Remember the whole scandal where they were trying everything to cheat, even by getting lip readers to translate over the mic?
@AntonyTheGod
@AntonyTheGod 8 жыл бұрын
I might actually like Shannon with Skip more than Stephen A
@youhateme8827
@youhateme8827 8 жыл бұрын
To me it's very clear Shannon and Skip work better together. Shannon allows Skip to speak while Stephen A needs to dominate the convo all the time. I can't stomach Smith. I been stopped watching him months ago
@AntonyTheGod
@AntonyTheGod 8 жыл бұрын
And when Shannon speaks I'm just more interested
@youhateme8827
@youhateme8827 8 жыл бұрын
Anthony El Exactly. He doesn't need to yell to make valid points as well.
@selfmadecali
@selfmadecali 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. shannon knows his shit
@Wideout4
@Wideout4 8 жыл бұрын
nice name
@shootermcgavin6304
@shootermcgavin6304 8 жыл бұрын
T.O. is an all time great no question. The relationship he had with the media is what's keeping him out. The media should not be able to hold him from football immortality because of their feelings.
@treyparker3775
@treyparker3775 8 жыл бұрын
Shannon and Skip are a great combination. Shannon is calm and speaks with candor and respectfully. Skip is almost a totally different person.
@treyparker3775
@treyparker3775 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a T.O. fan but he is a Hall of Famer.
@treyparker3775
@treyparker3775 8 жыл бұрын
You are so right.
@frederikbrandt424
@frederikbrandt424 8 жыл бұрын
Stop replying to yourself you loser, typical Eagles fan
@treyparker3775
@treyparker3775 8 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true Cowgirl. Go suck on a used tampon.
@ricksprings
@ricksprings 8 жыл бұрын
until Shannon can't take anymore nonsense & screams at him LOL
@KinGAdil019
@KinGAdil019 8 жыл бұрын
TO is second all time in receiving yards, third all time in TDs. Lead the league in TDs three times. How is he not first ballot?
@H1GHD3FF
@H1GHD3FF 8 жыл бұрын
Writers panties are in a bunch b/c TO gave them hell.
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+H1GHD3FF "Football is not a popularity contest" Jack Lambert
@Shemzinho
@Shemzinho 8 жыл бұрын
+Dwight Love well that's bs
@davidjackdon1548
@davidjackdon1548 8 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering that myself
@dmayfield838
@dmayfield838 8 жыл бұрын
+Spencer Stone your stupid
@stepho2256
@stepho2256 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Irvin was great but he’s no where near Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss
@sabreeemneely
@sabreeemneely 3 жыл бұрын
Add Calvin Johnson you got my Mt. Rushmore of WRs.
@kingralo5954
@kingralo5954 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabreeemneely idk you forgetting about Larry
@MrGoddlie
@MrGoddlie 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take Calvin Johnson over Terrel and Irvin...
@boombenjamin92
@boombenjamin92 Жыл бұрын
Add Marvin Harrison and Steve Smith or Ocho.
@DerekJones-l8q
@DerekJones-l8q 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree.
@my-merethoughts5742
@my-merethoughts5742 8 жыл бұрын
Skip sometimes gets too far away from logic and speaks from an emotional place. Reminds me of my bitch (pause).
@BlackMusicGenre
@BlackMusicGenre 8 жыл бұрын
That's funny as hell . Lol
@theycallmetattersalad1106
@theycallmetattersalad1106 8 жыл бұрын
She sounds like a lucky women. /sarcasm/
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 8 жыл бұрын
bitch = dick
@Ifyaonlyknew
@Ifyaonlyknew 8 жыл бұрын
haha lol yea
@waym0win
@waym0win 7 жыл бұрын
CTFU (PAUSE).........CTFU again
@2bmeis2bfree
@2bmeis2bfree 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is talking real nonsense.
@H1GHD3FF
@H1GHD3FF 8 жыл бұрын
Always has
@2bmeis2bfree
@2bmeis2bfree 8 жыл бұрын
+H1GHD3FF Hey can't dispute the numbers so he goes to the drama argument.
@BlackMusicGenre
@BlackMusicGenre 8 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is the Skip I know . He gets in his feelings and it takes over his ability to use logic .
@Ericis323
@Ericis323 8 жыл бұрын
let me explain when 1 of the greatest most decorated coach wants nothing to do with you and your a superstar like to you have to ask why
@jdoggem1
@jdoggem1 8 жыл бұрын
^^^WTF??
@ajp135212
@ajp135212 8 жыл бұрын
TO fits the description of ppl Skip hates, guys like Mayweather, Chad J, LBJ, Russell Westbrook etc. I'm not surprised. TO is a 1st ballot HOF hands down
@dannyfonseca07
@dannyfonseca07 8 жыл бұрын
He's way better than Irvin
@johntrue9308
@johntrue9308 8 жыл бұрын
FR, I would take TO over Irvin any day
@nickgojc7905
@nickgojc7905 8 жыл бұрын
Who ever would take TO over Irvin values ego over somebody who never ever played the games for numbers (& could've led the league in receiving) and sacrificed his stats and body every game for the betterment of the team. There is a reason troy aikman praises Irvin over any other teammate and all of TOs quarterbacks hate him. This is the reason owens never won. Irvin 3 > Owens 0
@donsremodeling
@donsremodeling 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickgojc7905 Eli has 2 rings and I'd take Marino over Eli. Irvin can't carry TO's jock, it's not up for debate, it's a fact. Look at the numbers... Michael is the most overrated WR and possibly NFL player of all time. Just because he is a TV personality and has a big mouth does not make up for his abysmal career numbers.
@Tobyee
@Tobyee 5 жыл бұрын
*Big fact*
@raymondjones7423
@raymondjones7423 4 жыл бұрын
@@donsremodeling I wouldnt go that far with what you said about Irvin but TO is definitely way above Irvin
@KINGDAVID230
@KINGDAVID230 8 жыл бұрын
he did play for the superbowl,,,with the eagles
@brycebrooks8484
@brycebrooks8484 8 жыл бұрын
yeah they said that. but he didnt get them there. he didnt play the two playoff games leading up to the SB
@sylvesterjones3841
@sylvesterjones3841 8 жыл бұрын
didn't he put them in position to play 2 home playoff games
@brycebrooks8484
@brycebrooks8484 8 жыл бұрын
Sylvester Jones ***** i never said he was bad, i just pointed out that the Eagles lost in the post season with him and won 2 without him.
@KeyoRacing
@KeyoRacing 8 жыл бұрын
not only that but he was THE BEST EAGLE in that game..... i really don't think we wouldve made the playoffs that year without him. He made #5 a better QB. And what did McNabb do the rest of his career AFTER T.O. left... nothing. What the EAGLES done since then..... NOTHING! Put T.O. in the HOF and lets move on
@johnlikely3694
@johnlikely3694 8 жыл бұрын
Keith Yo what about Dawkins...
@rossboss5072
@rossboss5072 8 жыл бұрын
Skip still mad about what TO did to his Cowboys
@marcusmoore7029
@marcusmoore7029 8 жыл бұрын
Wtf does the locker room have to do with performance.Michael Jordan was the worst team mate to have but guess what, when it was time to play he played the hardest. Stupid debate over this topic. Everything skip said is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his career as a player
@Ghostface2point0
@Ghostface2point0 8 жыл бұрын
couldn't have put it better myself! No one has ever come out and argued that MJ was a good teammate or a friend. It doesn't matter.
@58demarcus
@58demarcus 8 жыл бұрын
Great comment
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+Marcus Moore your right Horace Grant said that Bill Cartwright threatened to ruin his career if he yelled at him.
@michaelheath9012
@michaelheath9012 8 жыл бұрын
Jordan's attitude and competitiveness elevated his teammates to greatness in 6 NBA Championships. What did B.O's do? Nothing. A big old goose egg. And it got him run out of each city. His attitude hurt more than it helped. All his numbers did was keep inflating his already over inflated ego. No sir not a great comment. Comparing what Jordan did to the likes of Owens??? You sir know nothing about sports. Here is your dunce hat. Go to the corner and everybody else please point your fingers and laugh at this man.
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Heath He did not see those 6 NBA crowns until Grant,Pippen came along with other ppl.
@D-Nice82
@D-Nice82 8 жыл бұрын
Shannon killed that argument!! Skip gotta stop ignoring the facts in this one!!
@fifagod173
@fifagod173 8 жыл бұрын
U don't have to be a good basketball player or even a professional player. But when u average 1.4 points per game, u do not deserve to mention any athletes name in a negative way.
@epikgamer4462
@epikgamer4462 8 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with him but that's a low blow
@nofreecash1369
@nofreecash1369 8 жыл бұрын
skip is very sensitive about this subject
@corndog4848
@corndog4848 5 жыл бұрын
By that measure, you’re not a professional athlete, or journalist so you can’t say that about Skip. Hate this argument.
@jalenwalker8790
@jalenwalker8790 4 жыл бұрын
@@corndog4848 well I play college ball and his argument is terrible
@itree4
@itree4 3 жыл бұрын
"Water Pistol 🔫 Pete"! 😊
@JasonRoggasch
@JasonRoggasch 8 жыл бұрын
You think if Bayless was hooked to a lie detector would be telling the truth about TO not being a HOFer?..I do not.
@Guyver2391
@Guyver2391 8 жыл бұрын
Played in a super bowl with a broken leg, with incredible numbers through his whole career. He deserves it at this point.
@ChreamOhWheat
@ChreamOhWheat 2 жыл бұрын
Naw he was selfish for that according to skip
@Guyver2391
@Guyver2391 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChreamOhWheat yea but we all know skip is a bit on the dense side when it comes to bias and lacking true objectivity for the game.
@johanzo88
@johanzo88 8 жыл бұрын
TO should be in the HOF no doubt about it. No one cares what happens in the locker room or outside the field. its between the lines.
@ellismarcelle321
@ellismarcelle321 8 жыл бұрын
Skip's point is valid, if it is the hall of fame for character, granted, but this the hall of fame for "what you do on the football field" as Shannon stated, so he should be a first ballot. That he wasn't says that the judges broke the rules that they agreed to abide by!
@wasad20
@wasad20 8 жыл бұрын
You meant Skip's point is invalid* right?
@ellismarcelle321
@ellismarcelle321 8 жыл бұрын
It was a play on words. His point inevitably, in my opinion, is invalid
@jondoe6289
@jondoe6289 8 жыл бұрын
If the hall of fame is for character then the only ones who would be in there is Vince L coach of the packers. You have OJ in there mike irving the coke head in there deion i had sex with over 100 woman in there and so on. Stop it skip.
@honorguard88
@honorguard88 8 жыл бұрын
These "judges" are prolly all old school dudes who can't handle change in the game. I bet they were fuming when Cam and his Dab won the MVP.
@Duman_59
@Duman_59 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being 2nd 3rd and 6th in all time stats and not getting in. Crazy
@joshuatraffanstedt2695
@joshuatraffanstedt2695 6 жыл бұрын
I remember one play when romo had threw an interception at the goal line on the other side of the field (opposite of T. o.) and he ran him down and Made the tackle inside the other 5 yard line when everyone else gave up on the play. Say what you want, but t.o. NEVER gave up on a play.
@webshootah777
@webshootah777 8 жыл бұрын
if T.O. does not get on and McNabb does it will be a crime....T.O. went off on mcnabb cause he quit(mcnabb) mid 3rd quarter in the super bowl...go back and watch you see it in his eyes and body language. and that is what pissed off T.O. who came back early from a broken ankle to play for his team...I believe be was just very passionate about winning, sometimes to a fault...and it is sad one of the greatest ever will be remembered for that and not his talent
@Gh0stxRider
@Gh0stxRider 8 жыл бұрын
webshootah77 that super bowl loss was all McNabb everyone who actually watched the game should see that. no reason they should have lost that
@blakestillinthegame4248
@blakestillinthegame4248 7 жыл бұрын
webshootah77 You Exactly right Bruh!!!!
@blakestillinthegame4248
@blakestillinthegame4248 7 жыл бұрын
Gh0stxRider Exactly McNabb gave up. Simple as that!!!
@donsremodeling
@donsremodeling 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be shocked if McNabb gets in. He was very good, not great. Eli was very good, not great. Eli beat the GOAT twice in the SB=LOCK HOFer.
@jtjr4730
@jtjr4730 8 жыл бұрын
Shannon's last line was gold.. skip is ridiculous
@pjones8404
@pjones8404 8 жыл бұрын
Owens was a complete and total beast at WR. I don't care what he did "off" the field. Skip is a perpetually frustrated "wanna be" athlete who never mounted to anything so he sits on his media thrown trying to knock others down. Complaining that T.O. led the league is drops is like complaining about Reggie Jackson in his prime leading the league in strikeouts. You accept it because the flip side is so productive you can live with the mistakes. I watched his entire career..and I NEVER saw him take a play off...or mail in a game. Shannon is so correct as are the people posting that Skip is bitter that T.O. didn't deliver his ring while in Dallas. What a complete and total fool.
@jmcghane
@jmcghane 8 жыл бұрын
Come on Skip lets cut the bullshit now, "no ballot" come on man.
@BlackMusicGenre
@BlackMusicGenre 8 жыл бұрын
He loves Michael Irvin which Irvin was great, but Skip doesn't wanna mentioned back in 97 or 98 when Irvin stabbed his teammate over a haircut if we're going to talk about locker room distractions . If you're not going to talk about that then Skip shouldn't be talking about T.O.s short comings off the field .
@BangemJ
@BangemJ 8 жыл бұрын
And dont forget all the cocaine he got caught with too!!!!!!!!!
@jmcghane
@jmcghane 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a 49ers fan myself and so I can understand where Skip is coming from but still he's first ballot because of what he done on the field he played like beast mode in the WR position where ever he goes and a total package that can do it all.
@theFORCEismyallie
@theFORCEismyallie 8 жыл бұрын
If the HOF selection was solely based upon what happened off the field then it would be a very small group of people. However, since the HOF is based upon what you do on the field, then T.O should be in the HOF. I would take T.O over any receiver playing today because of what he can do on the field.
@Lemont5236
@Lemont5236 8 жыл бұрын
I guess you also think Darren Sharper should go in too
@mritizwatitiz
@mritizwatitiz 8 жыл бұрын
darren sharper couldve fucked a 1 day old baby in the ass but that doesnt change the fact that he deserve to be in the hall of fame. lets say there's a quarterback in the nfl that played in the league for 15 years but was never good enough to be a starter but he was the most generous and unselfish person off the field. do you think that would be enough to get him into the pro football hall of fame? the answer is no... so if someone cant get into the hall of fame for the positive things they do off the field why should someone be kept out because of the negative? i understand what darren sharper did was fucked up and people dont like when people who do fucked up shit get rewarded even when they deserve it. but if he gets inducted into the hall of fame its not because he's a rapist it's because he's one of the greats just like oj simpson.
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+mritizwatitiz What about Michael Vick!!!!!!
@mritizwatitiz
@mritizwatitiz 8 жыл бұрын
Dwight Love michael vick is definitely a hall of famer. anyone who revolutionized the game deserve to be in there just like gale sayers. gale sayer only rushed for 4.9k yards and 39 tds yet he's in the hof and thats because he changed the way people ran the ball.
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
mritizwatitiz If that is the case then Randall Cunningham will be wearing a HOF Jacket before him just like Fran Tarkenton is in Canton already he was one of the first mobile QBs in the 60s.
@blackcobra1981
@blackcobra1981 8 жыл бұрын
So Skip honestly think Randy Moss is not going to the Hall of fame when it's his turn to be eligible because he turn against the Patriots and Raiders?
@davideubanks6534
@davideubanks6534 8 жыл бұрын
MrB0gart so did Terrell Owens with the eagles he played in the super bowl 4 weeks after breaking his ankle and have screws put in it
@chrisrenshaw6372
@chrisrenshaw6372 Жыл бұрын
Skip is so stubborn the numbers don’t lie Terrell owens is a hall of famer I can say that as a loyal niners fan and come on skip there is no way any logical way any nfl fan would rank Michael Irvin over jerry rice but what do you expect from a bais cowboys fan who clearly can’t be objective
@robertwalker7979
@robertwalker7979 8 жыл бұрын
Forget the locker room, its about what's happening on the field. Dude is a Hall of Famer, this shouldn't even be up for discussion...
@BeeThaDon46
@BeeThaDon46 8 жыл бұрын
same shit I was just sayin
@littlenikki2003
@littlenikki2003 8 жыл бұрын
Skips just mad that he didn't bring a championship to Americas team lol I think that's why he is hating
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 8 жыл бұрын
you know what? lol that actually makes sense. never thought of it that way
@emilgrover838
@emilgrover838 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows TO is a first ballet hall of famer.
@Chris-ct1xy
@Chris-ct1xy 8 жыл бұрын
He's always been bashing him I think T.O. did something to him in San Fran!
@iloveyoumadhuri
@iloveyoumadhuri 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, fuck a girl that would never fuck Skip.
@gangstergook2692
@gangstergook2692 8 жыл бұрын
iloveyoumadhuri triggered
@victorhagan9833
@victorhagan9833 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what happens when you let a guy that couldn't catch a cold in his underwear in a snowstorm decide who gets into a sports hall of fame.
@elchucofried5683
@elchucofried5683 8 жыл бұрын
???? what are you talking about
@legoman7041
@legoman7041 8 жыл бұрын
You don't get a cold from standing outside.
@jameshughes5981
@jameshughes5981 8 жыл бұрын
Victor Hagan but he is top 5 WR
@yoransom
@yoransom 8 жыл бұрын
TO should be 1st ballot. Just the catch against the Packers alone.
@conor1382
@conor1382 8 жыл бұрын
Skip doesn't deserve to talk ever again T.O is the 3rd greatest receiver ever
@ethd2286
@ethd2286 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is perfect for entertainment on a debate show because he's so thick headed and stubborn. You cant convince this man of anything no matter how convincing your case is. He loves his Cowboys, Spurs, Tom Brady and Steph Curry, and hates Lebron. And no matter how right you are, he will never change his mind about any of those things
@AntonyTheGod
@AntonyTheGod 8 жыл бұрын
This is one of those really good debates where they both keep making good points and in the end I'm stumped for who to side with
@sonofaman6295
@sonofaman6295 8 жыл бұрын
lol me too...great convo..💯
@jordangrier1181
@jordangrier1181 8 жыл бұрын
I don't mean any disrespect but how was this a good debate? Skip has no point because his stance goes against what the HOF is to recognize. It's on the field production, not the locker room, etc. Maybe you can help me with that.
@malcomx2pac606
@malcomx2pac606 8 жыл бұрын
Owens should be in. the hall
@theycallmetattersalad1106
@theycallmetattersalad1106 8 жыл бұрын
+Lone Because you can argue that his off the field issues hindered on the field possibilities. I'm not saying he isn't deserving, but to dismiss Skip's point just because it hurts your feelings isn't right either.
@jordangrier1181
@jordangrier1181 8 жыл бұрын
They Call Me Tatter Salad I'm not dismissing his point because of feelings. I'm going off of facts. Ironically, it's Skip who is going off of feelings while dismissing the opposing point. Again, it's supposed to be "on the field things" not "off the field". Even with what you just said, it still took place off the field while he still performed on the field. Sticking to the point at hand, Skip still has no good point because he's in his feelings.
@travisblair3189
@travisblair3189 8 жыл бұрын
Good point Shannon at the end!_"He's destroying defenses once they got to the field!" Case Closed! Give that man his due! T.O. is Hall of Fame worthy!
@WizCiva
@WizCiva 8 жыл бұрын
TO is one of the best I've ever seen. I've never seen Jerry rice I saw TO and Mose I think TO is better.
@bombpop2461
@bombpop2461 8 жыл бұрын
Jerry Rice is the greatest pure football player ever, regardless of position. His statistics and records are all the proof you need.
@davideubanks6534
@davideubanks6534 8 жыл бұрын
Don King Terrell could've broken all of jerrys records if he was allowed to play as long as Jerry
@jackleague3086
@jackleague3086 8 жыл бұрын
Moss is better
@JodieJoe26
@JodieJoe26 8 жыл бұрын
Moss didn't block and he didn't like going over the middle...plus he quit on his team numerous times...I'll take TO any day
@jackleague3086
@jackleague3086 8 жыл бұрын
JodieJoe26 Then you'd lose
@Kwame92.
@Kwame92. 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how young Shannon and skip look just 6 years ago, compare to the recent videos
@kingjason354
@kingjason354 8 жыл бұрын
Look up Michael Irvin stats compared to Terrell Owens Irvin not even in T.O. league.
@ernestolopez5501
@ernestolopez5501 8 жыл бұрын
When T.O. argues with Skip face to face, oh man that was so good.
@Fsunolesnation
@Fsunolesnation 8 жыл бұрын
He ain't play with rage when Sean Taylor hit him #RIP21 #TOFIRSTBALLOTHOF
@TheTez1990
@TheTez1990 8 жыл бұрын
He ain't running for prom this isn't a popularity contest. T.O is arguably the third best receiver to play the game. I hate Owen's attitude but the guy was a straight up monster and stats back that up
@tevincollins2869
@tevincollins2869 8 жыл бұрын
That's the whole story he had a broke ankle in the Super Bowl and was doing work .
@TheTha411
@TheTha411 8 жыл бұрын
Shannons face in the thumbnail is great 😂😂😂
@rp968
@rp968 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is just old fashioned. You need people like him, Ochocinco, Odell in the NFL not these boring Yes people with no personality
@msmartin28dm
@msmartin28dm 2 жыл бұрын
If we based it on off the field antics Lawrence Taylor wouldn’t be in the hall of fame Skip gotta stop this
@Dee_Skee95
@Dee_Skee95 8 жыл бұрын
Skip.....go sit down!
@theycallmetattersalad1106
@theycallmetattersalad1106 8 жыл бұрын
He is sitting, brah.
@leaguejohn9457
@leaguejohn9457 8 жыл бұрын
Guess he gotta stand then
@kaneundertaker1994
@kaneundertaker1994 8 жыл бұрын
shannon is so right on this one
@chewyismycopilot788
@chewyismycopilot788 8 жыл бұрын
skip bayless looks like the guy on the 20 dollar bill
@driv21
@driv21 8 жыл бұрын
The "guy" is Andrew Jackson
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+NY Boricua Jackson is not very popular among the native Americans.
@chewyismycopilot788
@chewyismycopilot788 8 жыл бұрын
yeah i know, and i also think replacing skip with harriet tubman would leave viewers far better informed on the world of sports
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 8 жыл бұрын
+daedal Its true Andrew Jackson will be replaced by HARRIET TUBMAN very soon!!!!!!!
@Guyver2391
@Guyver2391 8 жыл бұрын
chewyismycopilot lol savage
@exodus2.010
@exodus2.010 7 жыл бұрын
Shannon should have his own show, skippy is holding him back.
@ImtooFuturistic
@ImtooFuturistic 8 жыл бұрын
TO is the 2nd best Wideout of all time... Yes above Randy Moss... TO is the Kobe Bryant of football.. He expected all his QBs to be just as good as he was. And they acted like Shaq and got tired of it.
@saintbrown9347
@saintbrown9347 8 жыл бұрын
Stupid
@marcellcelect453
@marcellcelect453 8 жыл бұрын
He wasn't better than moss. Moss was unstoppable in his prime.
@shin-te1xr
@shin-te1xr 8 жыл бұрын
growing up watching them TO was better to me. he did so much more on the field than moss.
@marcellcelect453
@marcellcelect453 8 жыл бұрын
+J you can make a good argument for both. I think moss had better hands and was taller but TO was stronger and could break away for big plays
@abrocktraining
@abrocktraining 3 жыл бұрын
T.O went into 1 SB and came back from an ankle injury. He still balled out with!! Let that sink in Skip
@thug8200
@thug8200 8 жыл бұрын
it's about what he does on the field and he is the 2nd best wr I've ever seen
@theycallmetattersalad1106
@theycallmetattersalad1106 8 жыл бұрын
Third, bitch. No way he is above Rice or Moss. Get your shit straight.
@disappointedknicksfan5042
@disappointedknicksfan5042 8 жыл бұрын
+They Call Me Tatter Salad Moss was more exciting, TO was better.
@thug8200
@thug8200 8 жыл бұрын
They Call Me Tatter Salad better than moss way more complete as a wr
@ivoryosby1343
@ivoryosby1343 8 жыл бұрын
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
@ivoryosby1343
@ivoryosby1343 8 жыл бұрын
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
@Sir_singh3
@Sir_singh3 7 жыл бұрын
Terrell Owens was defiantly a unstoppable player on the field. He should no doubt be a first ballot Hall Of Famer. He was a menus for certain reasons.. but that doesn't take away from how amazing he was on the field.
@jeremykrause4665
@jeremykrause4665 4 жыл бұрын
Skip overrates Michael Irvin.
@mr_sir1533
@mr_sir1533 8 жыл бұрын
Owens was bad ass. as a cowboys fan I hated playin him but I loved it when he came to dallas he was exciting to watch, every time he had the ball you knew he was bout to break away and score
@jevonmoore1264
@jevonmoore1264 8 жыл бұрын
Hall of famer all day...skip bayless is such a hater just makes my skin crawl.
@loveeveryone9976
@loveeveryone9976 8 жыл бұрын
T.O. wasn't no joke. Top 3 Wide Receiver in the history of the NFL. You have guys who are in the HOF who have done way worse. Drug addicts you name it..
@kemee260
@kemee260 8 жыл бұрын
he should be a first ballet hall of famer. hands down. idk how he isnt.
@mario2657
@mario2657 7 жыл бұрын
That the media chooses who gets in is actualy a disgrace to every player ...coz did any mediaguy ever played the game ?
@InTheKnow2011
@InTheKnow2011 8 жыл бұрын
Like Charles Barkley said, 'Skip Bayless is a punk'.
@user-uk1kw4vn6v
@user-uk1kw4vn6v 8 жыл бұрын
Top 5 WR all time. No doubt. 2nd in yards. 3rd in touchdowns. HOF isn't about what happens off the field, it's about what happens on the field. Dude was a MONSTER.
@justinwilliams8086
@justinwilliams8086 8 жыл бұрын
skip gets on my nerves!!!
@justinwilliams8086
@justinwilliams8086 8 жыл бұрын
i dont watch this show you lame...i came across this. you internet gangsta go swallow 1000 sleeping pills
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 5 жыл бұрын
It’s good that he is finally in. Keeping him out was ridiculous because the stats are just too phenomenal. It’s like saying a baseball player with a .300 lifetime batting average and 3000 hits does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame because he did not win the World Series, and had some issues with teammates. It’s ridiculous.
@JERMAINE650
@JERMAINE650 8 жыл бұрын
The ultimate hater returns
@spazzdineveryway
@spazzdineveryway 8 жыл бұрын
So I'm on the east coast, what time this comes on? I am enjoying the clips so far
@TheMyAlchemista
@TheMyAlchemista 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with skip that he wrecked Philadelphia but TO is a HoF
@marcellcelect453
@marcellcelect453 8 жыл бұрын
Actually he elevated the Eagles and came to the Super Bowl to play.
@TheMyAlchemista
@TheMyAlchemista 8 жыл бұрын
Carlos Jones They went to the SB without him bruh...
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 8 жыл бұрын
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 8 жыл бұрын
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 8 жыл бұрын
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
@mcdonoghrahloh459
@mcdonoghrahloh459 4 жыл бұрын
I love the hostess:She looks cute and let's the guys talk.
@tyrelledavenport106
@tyrelledavenport106 8 жыл бұрын
Skip is off point once again
@mbp7060
@mbp7060 8 жыл бұрын
Producing on the field means nothing to skip. It's what goes in the locker room and in T.O.'s driveway that matters to Skip. What goes on on the football field means very little to Skip Bayliss.
@cityhawk
@cityhawk 8 жыл бұрын
In the four major team leagues (NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB), in their Halls-of-Fame, you would have no difficulty finding a large laundry list of pricks in either of them. Their personalities didn't disqualify them. Is Terrell Owens a prick? Yes. Was he a pain in the ass to put up with in the locker room and on the sidelines? Without question. However, with that being said, his numbers speak for themselves, and his numbers alone are Canton caliber. Even with his attitude, he would get my vote just based on the numbers he put up.
@xtormentor-1546
@xtormentor-1546 8 жыл бұрын
I understand both side. Sometime what happens in the locker room can affect what happens on the field. But at the end of the day, play is what matters and TO is definitely a Hall of Famer.
@AntiSimp_90
@AntiSimp_90 8 жыл бұрын
t.o. did play for a Superbowl in the 2004-2005 season when he was with the eagles they lost to the patriots that yr
@rayderpa777
@rayderpa777 8 жыл бұрын
He might have meant won a super bowl.
@kidmelo1994
@kidmelo1994 8 жыл бұрын
if eagles won that Superbowl, Terrell Owens would of won MVP that game
@richg9448
@richg9448 8 жыл бұрын
He did play for a Super Bowl vs NE for the Eagles which was his HOF moment.
@paulbelanger2003
@paulbelanger2003 8 жыл бұрын
skip is so wrong here
@paulbelanger2003
@paulbelanger2003 8 жыл бұрын
skip will never know what it's like to strive to be the best on the field and fight for victory, so much so that it destroys your emotional and rational thinking , he expects him to be a robot after going to war
@iverson8484
@iverson8484 8 жыл бұрын
This show has been great.. And being in studio helps with the chemistry and overall flow as opposed to both guys being on monitors.
@joelbroncos
@joelbroncos 8 жыл бұрын
#ThatsMyQuarterback
@WopJr
@WopJr 8 жыл бұрын
GET THIS GUY IN THE HALL OF FAME
@TheMaddBlackMann
@TheMaddBlackMann 8 жыл бұрын
Romo was the reason TO failed in Dallas
@nickgarcia1292
@nickgarcia1292 8 жыл бұрын
i kind of miss those crazy wrs. he totally is hof worthy. could you imagine his numbers if he didnt drop those passes. the guy had so much passion for the game it became a fault sometimes but the guy did bring it every single game. idk i admire that passion
@SuperThumpasaurus
@SuperThumpasaurus 8 жыл бұрын
I can't stand Terrell Owens; he represents everything wrong with professional athletes...he's a hard core narcissist, he's a locker room cancer, he's not a team player, he's talked mad shit about almost every QB he's played with. That said... His numbers alone warrant HOF induction. Owens is second all time in receiving yards, third in Tds, sixth in catches, and he played in Super Bowl XXXIX on one leg and still had nine catches for 122 yards. Owens was a reprehensible human being while in the NFL but his numbers and dominance put him among the best receivers in NFL history. Only Jerry Rice and Randy Moss were demonstrably better.
@robertdaugherty6870
@robertdaugherty6870 8 жыл бұрын
he was an asshole not reprehensible you doorknob! killers, rapists, child molesters and thieves are reprehensible
@SuperThumpasaurus
@SuperThumpasaurus 8 жыл бұрын
Robert Daugherty ...Stop being all litigious and shit. Narcissists are not good people.
@hiitsme3039
@hiitsme3039 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperThumpasaurus I never seen T.O quit. Randy moss I seen him quit in Oakland and Minnesota.
@SuperThumpasaurus
@SuperThumpasaurus 8 жыл бұрын
Hi It's me ...Owens didn't quit, he always played his ass off. And Randy Moss didn't talk mad shit about every QB he played, Owens did. Moss took plays off and was by all accounts a team player and a good locker room influence. Owens worked tirelessly and was a toxic personality.
@hiitsme3039
@hiitsme3039 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperThumpasaurus and Owens has better stats Than moss. When nobody wanted him and everybody wanted moss.
@arenbie30
@arenbie30 8 жыл бұрын
Numbers speak for itself!!! TO was one of the greatest in my books.
@shurit7372
@shurit7372 8 жыл бұрын
TO is the only player that played in the Superbowl on a broken leg. So skip can Gtfowtb!
@seanbrennan9016
@seanbrennan9016 8 жыл бұрын
wrong
@shurit7372
@shurit7372 8 жыл бұрын
Sean Brennan where's your evidence
@seanbrennan9016
@seanbrennan9016 8 жыл бұрын
It was an ankle, and it wasn't completely broken, it's literally impossible to play on a broken leg
@shurit7372
@shurit7372 8 жыл бұрын
Sean Brennan​ Bro Roy Williams dragged him down which caused leg to bend backwards. Even if it wasn't broken, his injury should of kept him outta the game!
@seanbrennan9016
@seanbrennan9016 8 жыл бұрын
Ok then say that and don't exaggerate, facts are more than enough as they are, nobody needs to sugarcoat them.
@michaeledwards1552
@michaeledwards1552 8 жыл бұрын
could u imagine moss and Owens on the same team imagine the fireworks with those Two
@theycallmetattersalad1106
@theycallmetattersalad1106 8 жыл бұрын
This is a tough one because I get where both guys are coming from. I think Skip is right in that TO's off field issues hindered chances of 3 teams to win and should be weighed against him. But I also get Sharpe in the fact that it shouldn't be a bunch of dudes who don't play football deciding who gets into the fall of fame. It should be the players and coordinators who played against him that decide what caliber of a player TO was -- if they were able to be fair and objective.
@bfoz
@bfoz 8 жыл бұрын
I can hardly hear these guys sometimes, and I have the audio up fairly high.
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha 8 жыл бұрын
This show has been great so far, Sharpe has been doing a great job.
@SBN3vids
@SBN3vids 8 жыл бұрын
Go back and listen to First Take's audio, it's really bad and noisy compared to this show. Fox is stepping in on ESPN.
@0-Elias-0
@0-Elias-0 8 жыл бұрын
It's not even a question. TO is a HOFer. He'll get voted in. You cannot talk about football in the 1990s-2000s without mentioning TO. You certainly cannot discuss the wide receiver position without mentioning him either. He'll be in there.
@the3rdmorice
@the3rdmorice 8 жыл бұрын
And on that note, I'm glad Shannon brought up the contract thing because whether Skip wants to acknowledge it or not, Donovan caused that mess when he stabbed T.O in the back.
@alejandrorivera2458
@alejandrorivera2458 8 жыл бұрын
Terrell Owens is top three if not top two
@scottcaron4273
@scottcaron4273 8 жыл бұрын
Man Shannon and Skip are a great duo!
@zacharync3066
@zacharync3066 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely deserves to be in it. Ik off the field issues are different but we're talking about on the field, not off of it. I don't like TO at all. I actually hate him. But he deserves to be in the HOF. He earned it. The HOF is about the player itself and what he did. Not about the players around him and how he affected them.
@danthonyallen6168
@danthonyallen6168 3 жыл бұрын
HE PLAYED IN THE SUPERBOWL ON ONE LEG AND STILL DOMINATED TO SHOULD'VE DEFINITELY BEEN FIRST BALLOT
@CommonCent
@CommonCent 8 жыл бұрын
What will Shannon do when basketball season stats? Just wondering.
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