4x USF WAS A BAD CHOICE [4v4] [USF] [Port of Hamburg] - Full Match of Company of Heroes 2

[@skippyfx]

If you want to watch a gamer who makes no mistakes, don't watch this channel. 🤪

[@bigblackjay900]

Not gonna lie love the way you play a good mix between memes and actual tactics

[@skippyfx]

@@bigblackjay900 Cheers! It's fun to keep it interesting.

[@C3WhiteRose]

I prefer watching gamers only makes mistake.

[@skippyfx]

You’re in the right place.

[@marcosbravo9645]

32:47 Damn, that out of control Sherman lasted 17 seconds!

[@mateuszstepien865]

I respect that you always fight to the end

[@aarotron2189]

ah yes, the weakest lategame faction multiplied by 4. This will be viceral

[@ІванКоваль-й5ж]

@Ish how to use airborne? Wipe enemy units by pathfinders or something else? And how to get 2 vet 3 echelons?

[@DarkZerol]

They really need to further rework some of the USF commander abilities. Like seriously "Elite Vehicle Crew" from the Armor Company Commander is a thing?

[@headcultee]

Would an early halftrack be a good choice dealing with infantry and planes?

[@skippyfx]

Yes!

[@Babagush68]

Do multiplayer games always go one faction vs the other? or is mixed allowed?

[@redcape2184]

Just like real life, allies vs axis

[@hideonansel9388]

You can do mixed if I'm not mistaken

[@Falindio]

@@hideonansel9388 mixed is only allowed in custom games, not ranked matches.

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

Ah yes, i wish they add Sherman Jumbo or something, the lack of heavy armor is unnerving

[@tahakhalid2514]

More heavy armor like t29, t32 etc.... Search these tanks in war thunder.... they are if Same tier as of king tiger

[@thumper3644]

The pershing on CoH1 was good enough, how is it on CoH2? Or do they even have it?

[@tahakhalid2514]

@Harli Baron my bad..

[@thumper3644]

@Harli Baron then I guess the only downside of it is few commanders has access to it?

[@kabournoura5886]

@@thumper3644 only 1 commander

[@Faheroe]

Play around the heavy tanks. They are powerful, yes but their biggest weakness is their lack of mobility. If you know KT is on left, attack right, he cannot be in 2 places at once

[@Rider-lo9vt]

1:13:48 USF really need to be buff

[@Hthebiller]

Can somebody explain how the major prevented the VP from being capped?

[@skippyfx]

Not sure why it works, maybe because it’s considered “our territory”.

[@Hthebiller]

@@skippyfx after searching online turns out vet 3 majors prevent the territory they're stationed in as a retreat point to be captured. Thanks for replying anyways.

[@skippyfx]

@@Hthebiller Thanks for the info!

[@BiskyYy]

Yellow stole your m10 or m36 xd

[@skippyfx]

That jerk! Haha. 😋

[@BiskyYy]

56:23 i think it was your m10 since it didn't have the muzzle brake

[@tylerwells2044]

green was basically afk look at 3:25

[@skippyfx]

RIP

[@TheEnergizer94]

Wtf was your team doing at the beginning of the match

[@Albertredneck]

This is just like 4xHU in Warcraft 3

[@kabournoura5886]

I spent all my time on ww3 as humain lol

[@Albertredneck]

@@kabournoura5886 me too, always the underdog

[@theerdem4698]

Lmao axis cant read it literally says territory locked down by major on the VP

[@wric01]

USF is for pros as rarely does any know how to counter german tanks with them. Where the f are the sticky bombs, bad enough they are crippled against german tanks. Easy 8 and bazooka is not enough to take down any heavy german tanks, M1 57mm is worthless as mostly it bounces off. M36 jackson works, but 99% of worthless teammates are not willing to use it as a team of them to take down heavy tanks.(Throw a smoke and charge in and keep running through as slow turrents can't catch them stoopid.)

[@yellowflash8877]

i know what you feel, i lose in 1 more VP point, i mean 200:1 and we lost 4v4 USF vs mixed Axis 2 Wehr and 2 OKW :(

[@astonhodgson8876]

Axis owns end game in 3v3 and above. Why... just because the game developers decided lol Best AT - Pak Best AT Tank - Panther Best Anti-Infantry single unit - Falls Best AT infantry - Panzergrenz (2shreks...really!!) All axis units.

[@astonhodgson8876]

Playing against the best factions and having fun when you win - Allies woot!!!

[@pieterrogge1970]

If you let axis evolve into late game Panzer powerhouses, then that is your own fault. Not the developers.

[@hitler69]

@@pieterrogge1970 did you read the part about 3v3 and above? because ending early isn't a thing.

[@control9247]

It's the first time i saw you lose

[@skippyfx]

It’s not the first losing game I’ve posted, won’t be the last. 😊

[@control9247]

@@skippyfx hope you win next time

[@kovalensue]

Are you playing 1v1 too?

[@tahakhalid2514]

GG...it was there comeback.... shifting tides

[@skippyfx]

I like a good challenge!

[@FLUX.2226]

Why do people consider the USF the weakest faction? I don't play much PvP.

[@gerbie42]

They're considered the weakest late game faction due to a lack of heavy armor. The only heavy tank they could potentially get is a Pershing which is only available with a specific commander. On average they do excel in the early to mid game, and can usually use that to push the advantage. The thing is that in a 4v4 match if everyone on one side does the same thing, you all have the same weakness and it almost seems like an 'amplified' weakness, so this is basically a 4v4 match where the allied side does not have heavy armor and start losing their advantage late game, which pretty much makes it a timed battle in favor of the Axis.

[@FLUX.2226]

@@gerbie42 I guessed it would be something about the tanks, but the Soviets don't get any heavy tanks without a commander either. Or are KV/IS commanders common enough to offset that?

[@gerbie42]

@@FLUX.2226 It's part of it yes. Soviets are generally a more mid/late game as opposed to the USF early/mid game, because they have some more options for late game; For one there are more commanders that make heavy tanks available to you and they are more common, additionally the M10 tank destroyer for USF can only take a few hits, while it's Soviet counterpart the SU-85 is generally considered to be a more durable version (can take more hits & has a very long range). Additionally the T-34 tanks, while probably the weakest medium armor, are very cheap (fuel-wise) and quite versatile, they're a nice addition with other AT, especially if you manage to use the ram correctly. The USF shermans are quite alright in my opinion, but against a lot of PIVs and especially Panthers they just can't compete. In general the USF require quite a bit of micro. Against heavy armor for example, the M10 and Shermans are both pretty fast and good at flanking, but you've got to look after them since they just die quite fast. That's one of the reasons why USF work best with combined arms, supporting your armor with infantry and support weapons makes them work wonders, but it does require a lot of attention. And with a lot of artillery in play supporting your armor with soft targets becomes more difficult. Which brings me to another point in late game, besides armor, artillery often also plays a big role, especially in games with higher player counts, it's not that USF has necessarily weak artillery, but they are the only faction that doesn't have a mobile artillery barrage like a Stuka or Katyusha, unless you take a commander that grants you the Sherman Calliope. That said, the most important thing this game - and it was a close one - was that all 4 players went USF without heavy armor, so this game was a good example of how the Axis armor is simply better than the USF armor.

[@FLUX.2226]

@@gerbie42 Wow that was pretty detailed, thanks!

[@u.b.5366]

​@@FLUX.2226 To underline the importance of heavy armor: you have different categories of tanks called brawlers and tank destroyers. These brawlers are the ones tanking the damage enabling the TDs to sit in the back sniping. If you dont have brawlers like IS2 or churchill with their crazy armor in the front, the axis brawlers or brawler/TD hybrids such as the panther can just close the distance and blast away on the 60 range jacksons even though they normally would have inferior range (50 panther range vs 60 jackson TD range). It's not that the heavy armor on the allied side is dishing out the damage, they are mostly there to deter deep pushes on lane based maps such as Red Ball. Even the brawlers with the worst guns like the Churchhill can reliably penetrate a diving panther who's going past the heavies into the TD range.

[@imanengineer10]

Still USF is weakest. USF needs still lots of buffs.

[@weihangliang4079]

UKF: Am I just a joke... Fine, just forget about me

[@imanengineer10]

@@weihangliang4079 I forgot dat... Churchill and comet's POP CAP Must Buffed to 16. And Firefly buffed to 15 :/

[@barashsmeshar8964]

Good luck