Skydiving Safety - Exit Order / Boarding Order (Explained!)

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The exit order is very important to minimize the risk of collision. Not every skydiver are aware of why & how the right exit order should be. Let's clarify everything in this video.
*Note that this order is not set in stone, every load is different and every DZ as well. It's the role of the DZO to stipulate the exit order on a specific DZ.*
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The goal to have an exit order is to avoid to the maximum the risk of collision between skydivers. We need to make sure every skydivers or group have their own airspace to play and open.
We manage to do that by allowing enough horizontal separation between skydivers or groups of skydivers.
Watch this video to understand how we create that horizontal separation!
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Let’s all be wiser & safer skydivers!

Пікірлер: 71
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
👉👉Get the explanation document HERE: bit.ly/2EJikWA Share with your skydiver friends!
@marionunez7637
@marionunez7637 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info!
@robertpothier
@robertpothier 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this sport safer. I am 125 jumps and seriously appreciate good informative and entertaining videos like this. Safety first, fun and style
@Soxandnicole
@Soxandnicole 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. In general your advice is correct but each load should be considered within it's own context. A particular consideration which needs to be recognized is a younger (student) belly flyer that typically will (should) open a bit higher and also has a larger canopy which would have less penetration into the wind and be disadvantageous to exiting earlier. Typically at Skydive Deland we put them out prior to our AFF students. Another point worth considering is actually the time allotted between groups specifically considering upper wind speed.
@BrianErwin
@BrianErwin 4 жыл бұрын
there's always that one boarding order nazi that asks everyone what they're doing and what altitude they pull
@rb1164
@rb1164 3 жыл бұрын
I teach my novice jumpers this...Biggest to Smallest...Belly to Free-fly. Tandem...Wing Suiters go last. I don't complicate things when they are first learning BUT I do tell them if they are unsure ASK. Just my 2 cents.
@Brian-xq5xi
@Brian-xq5xi 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! It's great for refreshing and some things I already know click on a deeper level! So fun! Thanks for making these! Blue Skies 💙
@Baseadilla
@Baseadilla 3 жыл бұрын
Catherine you are the best!!! Why is this type of content so hard to find
@tuttt99
@tuttt99 3 жыл бұрын
I came back after 200 jumps and a 20+ year break. Back in the old days exit orders were not nearly so complex due to fewer disciplines. The only real thought then was freefallers first, high pullers (CRW, Cross country, etc) last.
@havlik2477
@havlik2477 5 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a video like this one. Thank you!
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Where do you jump?
@fhavlik6502
@fhavlik6502 4 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibes VDZ - Sweden 🤙
@dr.e.r.blomgren
@dr.e.r.blomgren 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you from AFF student!! I found your 'Exit Order' pdf really useful, and am printing a hard copy.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked, but make sure to verify it with your DZ. There can be some differences. ;) Blue Skies!
@dr.e.r.blomgren
@dr.e.r.blomgren 6 жыл бұрын
Skydive Vibes ... Yes, I will.
@8o8inSquares
@8o8inSquares 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Tomorrow I have my first aff day
@navigatiopriyanshu1473
@navigatiopriyanshu1473 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative!!
@redrifle6839
@redrifle6839 2 жыл бұрын
these videos are great thank you for all your info
@redrifle6839
@redrifle6839 2 жыл бұрын
just realized i might be behind lol 2022 commenting 2018 lol
@ItsKevinDuhh
@ItsKevinDuhh 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information!
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks Kevin!
@kellerferenc
@kellerferenc 3 жыл бұрын
can you make an other exit order video where you include solo belly, solo FF, maybe students on their consoles?? but 100% love your videos keep them coming!!!
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to refresh that video! Thanks!
@robertneven7563
@robertneven7563 2 жыл бұрын
this video is amzing thanks
@m1a1stud
@m1a1stud 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I understand now
@cbgreely
@cbgreely 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@adanmelchor4605
@adanmelchor4605 5 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adan!
@navjeetsingh8722
@navjeetsingh8722 4 жыл бұрын
Ok mdm ji u r very good bold speaker
@tamasschuchanek7886
@tamasschuchanek7886 5 жыл бұрын
Very clarifying!
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Where do you jump?
@tamasschuchanek7886
@tamasschuchanek7886 5 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibes i jump in homestead fl, but im a newb. Only 45 jumps. I am thinking about buying my first piece of gear. What do you think is more important, a g3 or a digital altimeter?
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I would say a rig at your size is the most important but I agree it's more expensive. When I started I went for a used full face helmet and a used analog altimeter. This was the cheapest option. I wanted to have a full face first for the comfortability, so I would go with it and the digital altimeter later on. If you want your own altimeter, go for a cheaper analog at first. If you are planning to buy new, check out Chutingstar.com and use the code: "SkydiveVibesHelpedMe" for a small discount. ;)
@tamasschuchanek7886
@tamasschuchanek7886 5 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibes Awesome thank you
@AbdulQayyum-zv9yk
@AbdulQayyum-zv9yk 6 жыл бұрын
WOW! THANKS MADAM! REALLY I SO LUCKY !!!!!!!
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@alts88
@alts88 4 жыл бұрын
In this video you don't mind the fall rate. A freeflyer falls faster than a bellyflyer, if the freeflyer exits after the bellyflyer it can run in top of it.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 4 жыл бұрын
No because the belly flyer will drift due to the slower fall rate.
@alts88
@alts88 4 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibesI see. Because in my dropzone the exit order is used to be: solo FF, group FF, solo belly, group belly, students, tandem, wingsuits. So the "faster" fallrate exits first, I was wondering what is the best exit order.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 4 жыл бұрын
@@alts88 it depends if you are dropped upwind I heard there was DZ dropping that way. Meaning that the wind would make them drift up the flight line... But not sure about that.
@calinutza33
@calinutza33 5 жыл бұрын
I am just a belly flyer at the moment , but can you please tell me what is an angle flyer ? Thank you ! I am finding your videos very instructive! 👍
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, So angle flying is like tracking but with a steeper angle meaning that the freefall speed is faster than a usual track dive.
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 5 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibes Isn't that also called atmonauti?
@divindave6117
@divindave6117 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Don't forget about us guys who are silly enough to do CRW now and then! :)
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
divin dave those are high pulls. ;)
@Soxandnicole
@Soxandnicole 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkydiveVibes FYI Some CRW'ers prefer to exit considerably prior to any and all Freefallers in order to maintain A single direction into the prevailing winds such that a change of direction is not needed specifically for larger formations. This typically does not present a problem as canopy deployment is basically 'out the door'. PS. Thanks for your input.
@TomBrunberg
@TomBrunberg 5 жыл бұрын
We're used to have free flyers jump out first as well, mainly because of vertical separation. Theres good animation about these things at dropzone dot com, www.dropzone.com/safety/Exit/Wind_Drift_Exit_Order_Graphic_25.html
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
Well according to the graph and explanation, to ensure a horizontal separation, belly fliers have to exit first. Although it is well said that the decision depends on the DZO and each load and DZ can have different recommendations.
@mercyshaver5264
@mercyshaver5264 3 жыл бұрын
💯👌
@jackmehoff6302
@jackmehoff6302 5 жыл бұрын
Man when i used to jump the freeflyers were going out first every time. This was in 2002. The dropzone doesnt exist anymore. Its Pretty shocking to hear this. I mean every jump i was on.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
Well it's good that the sport evolves. But the dropzones are the one deciding their exit order in the end. This is what is recommended though.
@pschroeter1
@pschroeter1 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched several skydiving videos and wonder when skydivers can leave the plane. My guess is when they can see the dropzone (usually next to a runway) and possibly upwind?
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
pschroeter1 the exit point is set prior to taking off by the DZ. They analyze the winds. The pilot then have the exit point coordinate and tells the skydivers when to exit. It's also the job of each skydiver to spot the dropzone before jumping. ;)
@pschroeter1
@pschroeter1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and again I forget to check (or that I even have) gmail for replies@@SkydiveVibes
@50buttfish
@50buttfish Жыл бұрын
There is NO exit order on a garbage load! We ALL leave together.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes Жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching!
@abadialsharif8537
@abadialsharif8537 6 жыл бұрын
As I know free flyers exit before belly flyers
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
abadi alsharif Well its not supposed to since the belly flyers will end up falling right above the freeflyer which can cause risk of collision. You might want to discuss that with an instructor. There can be some reasons though.
@marcfauve6971
@marcfauve6971 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer to go out first when I free fly. For me vertical separation is more important than the horizontal one. And ff often open lower. And in fact ... sometime ... a ff group move more than a belly group. I don t like that rule. In France ff go out first except when it s really windy.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting point. Is it like that in your association recommendations? Or it's a dropzone rule? Thanks for sharing.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
If a belly flyer ends up above you and has a malfunction... he will fall on you, no?
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcfauve6971 "And ff often open lower." that's not true at all. Opening altitude depend on skydiver not on discipline. "ff group move more than a belly group. " that again is NOT true at all. Where are you getting your information from? How long are you active in the sport? Don't hand out shit advice. I've jumped in France at GAP festival. There they don't do what you're saying.
@mellamodiego8458
@mellamodiego8458 Жыл бұрын
its pronounced REL A TIVE not RE LA TIVE....sorry had to say that
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes Жыл бұрын
haha Thanks!
@EvanSantangelo
@EvanSantangelo 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously? If belly flyers exit before free flyers...the belly flyers will drift under the free flyers. They'll be opening in the same place...no bueno.
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, well the belly flyer will drift down the jump run so they will never get under the freeflyer. ;) However, each dropzone are responsible for their own order. Those are recommendations from the USPA SIM. ;)
@yarpos
@yarpos 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? they are going to drift up wind?
@SkydiveVibes
@SkydiveVibes 5 жыл бұрын
No, Downwind. I learned that some dropzone uses a jump run downwind, we do upwind flight paths so the wind pushes the jumpers behind the plane. ;) Does it make sense?
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Santangelo think for a second about your comment because it makes no sense. Jump run is always against the wind so drift will be downwind. Slower fall rate means longer drift downwind. Second group of jumpers are freeflyers, again they drift downwind but since their fall rate is faster the drift won't be as big hence better separation. Downwind jump run makes no sense, less lift for the plane and no real benefit to do downwind jump run. If a DZ does downwind drops than that is unsafe too. With a fully loaded plane and large groups build up hanging outside the plane the plane will need the lift to be able easily maintain control. Doing that downwind is asking for trouble.
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 Жыл бұрын
Not really sure if the wind during freefall pushing you sideways is actually relative wind. It's the absolute wind, the wind that is blowing in other words. Relative wind is the wind you feel during exit which is the wind generated by the airspeed of the plane (hence it's relative to the airspeed of the plane). Absolute wind doesn't change and isn't relative to anything so it's wrong to call it relative wind when you're already out of the plane and have transitioned into vertical motion and lost the momentum given to you by the plane's speed.
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