The Problems of BeamNG

[@SkyFall4839]

Two days after I published this video the Steam page was actually updated! Thank you developers :D

[@LiljamezZz]

I was just about to tell you 😂

[@Snowy_1600]

As soon as I seen it I wanted to tell ya But I'm late

[@Hornet_Gaming]

the trailer is so similar to the old one one of the only differences i could find is the etk 800 hatchback getting rammed by semi

[@svenos]

came back to comment about it

[@pigeondriver8992]

Same as @LiljamezZz, That's crazy how the devs listen to the community, it also looks great...

[@mrragge7986]

Look at the game Stormworks. It had great potential and grew a lot. It was loved by it’s community and was getting regular updates. But something went wrong, the devs couldn’t keep up with the communitys desires and backlash. The game got buggy and a lot of glitches came. The community is revolting and the game is getting a lot of hate. Right now it’s in shambles. I want the beamng to keep calm,don’t listen too much to the community, and keep doing good things for the game.

[@Blaze_Gamez]

I think stormworks just started pushing out big updates without refining them and that's what caused all of their problems but the people giving death threats are over reacting way to much because the next day they fixed lots of major issues

[@jwalster9412]

​@@Blaze_Gamezbeamng has the problem where with released an unfinished and buggy carrier mode and yes, it's a wip, but I assume in a few months it will be more polished.

[@leepicgaymer5464]

@@jwalster9412it kinda literally says WIP

[@Blaze_Gamez]

@jwalster9412 career mode isn't officially released yet its cool how far it's come from when it was fist released it'd cool its in a working state that you can play it in

[@pikesbegone]

6:01 “im not a big fan of off-roading” whilst he off-roads xD overall amazing video and I agree with everything you said

[@Backup-V]

2:16 you're so right. Imho that's because there are so many kids out there who buy the game to emulate youtubers and creators without having any actual passion for the cars, that's why I constantly feel like I'm in the minority of players who actually enjoy the game's physics for the driving itself, I see the crashing part like the icing on the cake.

[@vikaluksena]

same bro

[@theboxgoblin9981]

same... idk why people don't do more than just crashing.

[@jwalster9412]

Neilogical being the prime example of this effect. How many people actually drive the car mods he reviews. I bet a large majority of the downloads on many mods he shows are driven for five minutes and then forgotten.

[@HighSockDavid]

Not to mention the level of detail put into cars even cars that are usually afterthoughts or left out in most racing or open world games such as a the burnside special (50s sedan) are given a lot more attention to detail then their counterparts and actually drives like it should

[@jwalster9412]

@@HighSockDavid the Burnside is slow, heavy, and rolls more than a boat, but it's perfect for beamng because you can collapse the front suspension in a matter of minutes on the Johnson valley map. And it's a pretty tunable car.

[@CrashFrontier]

BeamNG is like this ultimate creative playground.Some people dig the off-roading, others are all about city vibes (count me in, lol). For me, it's turned into the dream movie studio where I can bring any crazy idea to life. The best part funny enough is the endless trial and error with each stunt, which keeps the whole process super engaging. But hey, I'm just one of millions who've found their own little niche in BeamNG, whether it's for physics simulation, crash tests, or movie-making. And that's what makes this platform so awesome.

[@avreve]

you do really well on that last one

[@gedeon_teuzemany]

You are the best!

[@AviationFun737]

This was painful to watch, I’m in love with this game! I have almost 3000 hours! My grandfather bought this for me as my Christmas in gift in 2019 just before he passed away. Not only does this game mean a lot to me because it’s an amazing game, but also because it holds sentimental value to me. I would cry so hard if anything bad happens to BeamNG. Also f**k short form content.

[@jwalster9412]

You have more hours than me and I've had it since around 2015. Granted I only started playing most of the hours when the automation collaboration came around, and I started getting into cars as a hobby.

[@AviationFun737]

@@jwalster9412 ngl maybe 10-20% of those are idle but still

[@vangezy6456]

I'm sorry for your loss, but it's the best gift that your grandpa gave you before he passed away🙏

[@AviationFun737]

@@vangezy6456 yes it is! Thank you for your condolences

[@spray_cheese]

I think official multiplayer support would do wonders in dragging the game back in the direction it was intended. My brother and I would love to mess around on that and play “realistically” we used to do that in gta but it just isn’t the same as the configure options and realism of beamng. No rush but that’s just my input. I’d rather it be great than released too early. That goes for everything.

[@drumstick74]

I agree... I find it quite remarkable that Multiplayer *isn't* a default option of the game. The mod works fine, so it's just a matter of integrating it.

[@erixccjc2143]

Fr, beamp works wonders, I'm sure the devs alredy know about it and tryna implement it tho

[@Pancake_12]

the mod is incredibly buggy, and while I agree that multiplayer would be awesome and would suit the game perfectly, it isn't 'just' a matter of integrating it. The fundamentals of how BeamNG works makes implementing multiplayer a huge challenge, and I don't doubt that the Beam devs have more than enough skill to pull it off... but I wouldn't put money on it releasing any time soon.@@drumstick74

[@drumstick74]

@@Pancake_12 I haven't found it "incredibly buggy", as you say, except for some lag if the server is full (when people spawn new vehicles). I am not an expert on how to integrate it, but as you say, the BeamNG team probably know how to do it, and perhaps even remove the lag.

[@Mypenisissmallbut]

My brother, who I’ve been preaching to about BeamNG for the last 8 years, told me he’d get BeamNG if they add multiplayer in the default game. Said we could do police chases.

[@YTBlueDoge]

I do NOT think that this is even near some kind of "end" of BeamNG, and everyone complaining about all of the offroad updates needs to look back a bit. We both got a Supercar and an Ibishu Covet remaster before 0.27, which are both normal road cars. One thing I agree with you about tho is the Steam page part. I've even noticed that my self and thought the exact same thoughts. Anyways great video as always SkyFall!

[@moonhawkcinema]

There have been so many times I've played this game and thought the one activity I chose at that moment would make a great game by itself. You want track racing? Got it. Off road? Check. Get out and walk around? Yep. Fly an airplane? Boats? Complete car customization? Making movies? Oh built-in map creation? I imagine from a developer's perspective it could be difficult to decide where to focus resources, but you're absolutely correct that BNG is far more than a cringe crash toy!

[@jwalster9412]

Want to create your own car without months invested? Automation.

[@zerosd15ds43]

Bruh, I legit chose beam over assetto as my main drifting game. And the content creators, jeez, look at say neilogical or camodo gaming vs someone like coolkidfrmbx. They don't even take the time to know the game they're playing.

[@erkinalp]

@@jwalster9412 They will add that as well once they deal with gameplay balance issues.

[@sirflaps7619]

I also heard another theory for all the off-road updates. The devs might be holding of on releasing a race update until the can improve the tire physics (tire wear and hear for example).

[@turbo_marc]

Also, the reason there's hardly any European content in BeamNG is because many of their employees work from home. For example, the incredibly realistic West Coast USA map leads me to believe that there are several developers in San Francisco.

[@jwalster9412]

This wouldn't surprise me considering that a lot of the vehicles in the code of the game are named American names the T series is named semi, which is about as an American name as you can get for a tractor trailer.

[@turbo_marc]

@@jwalster9412 It's a dialect? Tractor trailer is silly.

[@jwalster9412]

@@turbo_marc semi truck makes less sense. It's a tractor pulling a trailer.. Not half a truck.

[@ryanknol3876]

Also, I think the reason there are so many (older) American cars is because that’s what the physics engine was “good at” at that time: - Early BeamNG’s tire/suspension phycics where a lot worse as they are now, with tires skidding a lot easier, and suspension bouncing/shaking a lot more. - Real-life European cars, especially newer ones, tend to handle very well; so attempting to simulate one using a physics engine that struggles with doing… exactly that… means you’ll end up with a soft, bouncy, bad-handling car in-game instead of the well-handling car it’s supposed to be. - On the other hand, older American cars *do already* have bad handling and soft, bouncy suspension in real life, so accurately simulating those using that same physics engine is a piece of cake. Of course, the current version of BeamNG has had a lot of physics improvements and no longer struggles with that, but of course there are still a large amount of classic American cars in game since those where already added in the past. *edit:* I’m pretty sure one of the BeamNG developers even said something to this effect in a forum post somewhere

[@turbo_marc]

@@jwalster9412 It's not a tractor though. How about trailer truck? That one actually makes a bit of sense.

[@lia_auto1114]

This vid is just the truth. I Hope BeamNG sees this video.

[@davisadijans]

3:13 it could be worse, imagine if you said ''yoo guys i play beamng drive! do you?'' and they reply like ''oh that cringe mcqueen game?'' that is sad😭

[@simsimw]

I had a friend in my class that I would play beamNG with everyday in class in GeForce Now. He said he discovered the game and plays it for fun and drifting, it really shows how

[@BeamngTV]

Hello! Great video, good points 💪 I'm playing this game since 2014 and I've never got bored. I even play it in my free time, none of the games gives me enough of entertainment like BeamNG Drive. For the paid mods, the ones from LucasBE, etc, are worth the money, but the real car mods.. it's mostly scam, as you said. Personally, I see this game as the Sandbox. I do all stuff in this game. Testing physics, driving, racing, enjoying the nature, tuning cars, building configs, just what ever is fun for me at the time 😃 But yes.. I'm known for Emergency Stories and car crashes. So mostly I did in the game are crashes, then the stories, where I use a lot the potential of game's wolrd editor features and then the beauty of the game. I did some mistakes.. not bringing the new ideas to show more of this game, which I believe I should do in the near future with new series. I just wanted to write this here as an answer to some of the points you said + my POV, as I'm here with 5700 hours of play time and many years of playing 😅❤ Keep up the good work man!

[@dominicpond]

238 Days worth of gametime, damn.

[@SkyFall4839]

Hey BeamngTV! Thank you for the kind words, and about the emergency stories and crash compilations, I don’t see anything wrong with them. In fact, I really enjoy watching them! The only type of BeamNG content I actually hate are the offensive Shorts or the cringe Lighting McQueen stuff xD

[@BeamngTV]

​@@SkyFall4839haha! Same! I do not understand how that stuff gets recommended all the time, instead of our videos 💀

[@dakotawilliams4337]

Some are funny but most is not

[@vikaluksena]

I was introduced to it from crash videos as well but I was more interested in how the game handled so when I played it, and got the hang of it, it really is enjoyable. I love the configurations, I got overly invested in the modding community and I loved how technical and how much freedom you have. You would be done configurating a perfect car but that would take another day, just messing around with other cars will days a lot of time. Races were reasonably difficult (for me) and of course destroying cars is fun.

[@Vivicect0r]

I believe BeamNG needs to make some more racing sim fixes. Tire wear and temps, aero issues, etc. Also, it would be great to make races more realistic (like co-pilot in Rally stages). Currently game has some of the best physics models yet most people don't treat it like a sim cause of some kinda small yet noticeable problems.

[@SkyFall4839]

I completely agree!

[@SP.Spittlebug]

there is actually a nice mod for co-pilot. its called rally mode. its a wip, but you can also make your own stages and notes on every map. i have made a tutorial for it. i mostly use beam for rally and i'm sure we will get updates for raly too as the game aleady has an in built pacenotes system in the world editor but they are not using it yet..

[@madmax2069]

0:50 that always bugged the hell out of me when people would say that, and bugs the heck out of me when thats pretty much all the content you find on KZbin about BeamNG (like 80% of the BeamNG videos are kids crashing cars). BeamNG is far far more, it has a lot to offer, a lot of it just hasn't been realized yet or hasn't materialized yet (materialized as in not been developed or put into the game yet, like there's a bit that can be improved with the tire physics and added to the tire physics). I dont buy mods, if a mod cost money i just dont use it, i stick to the free mods you can download in the game. I'm a big fan of off-roading like mudding , hill climbing, and rock crawling (id love to see deformable ground like you see in spintires/mudrunner/snowrunner, but i highly doubt well see that due to how demanding it is and how demanding BeamNG already is) just as much as track racing and other things involving vehicles. And yes, they need to update the BeamNG steam page, as well as offer an updated demo as the demo they offer just doesn't show off the progress that they have made to the game. The BeamNG content I'd love to see is pro racers getting a stab at BeamNG, like Robbie Gordon or his son racing the Baja and or trophy trucks in the desert map that was released, or "enter drivers name here" getting a few laps in on a track (yes I know there Jimmy Broadbent, but there needs to be far far more of that what he did with BeamNG).

[@apgde]

Honestly, I have a strong hunch that in just a few years, BeamNG will have evolved beyond recognition. Consider the possibilities: vastly improved graphics, a fully fleshed-out career mode, an abundance of additional content, perhaps even an official multiplayer feature, and so much more. If you ponder it, BeamNG is already a virtual haven for vehicle enthusiasts, offering an expansive range of car-related experiences, and with mods, it can even accommodate boats and planes. Looking ahead, it's entirely conceivable that BeamNG may introduce official support for boats and planes. The addition of a completed career mode will not only enhance the game but also draw in a whole new audience. Moreover, if prominent BeamNG KZbinrs like yourself, Neilogical, Camodo, Simulator Adventures, me (yay I included myself), and others (Neil and Camodo are already quite popular), continue to gain traction, it could lead to a broader audience understanding that BeamNG is far more than just a crash simulator; it's a dynamic world of vehicular exploration and enjoyment.

[@zman90]

I hate all the people complaining about that "theres too many off road cars"

[@RianDaRetard]

Those are fantastic and fun but it's a bit much.

[@ProbNotCross]

​@@RianDaRetardbruh its 3 cars.

[@sixpackplays7539]

Stop complaining and enjoy this fantastic game be patient for these updates they are time consuming and and high quality!!

[@pigeondriver8992]

Outdated? The good old torque still looks great today, I won't refuse an ue5 update but that's too much work for nothing, maybe some simple changes could make it look better, like new skyboxes, reflexions, mirrors that reflect your own car...

[@nmlss-r9]

Torque is really outdated. If beamng looks how it does today is because of extra work by the devs to implement the missing features. Luckily the vulkan rendered is in the works which should bring us some of the still not up to standard features, from good antialiasing to dlss and more.

[@xguitarist_]

Torque engine as in the garagegames torque? Like the torque behind marble blast gold 20 years ago???? Didn’t even know it was still a thing Guess that makes two torque games with impeccable physics then…

[@Damian-cilr2]

An update to ue5 would be too much work,it would practically be doing everything from scratch,and i imagine it would be less optimized for this sort of stuff

[@endingtasks8538]

well, thankfully, those mirrors are here now.

[@theexplodedguys264]

I just hope it won't end because I've never played this and this is my dream game...

[@kavno]

Something I've seen that's completely overlooked by the "Im tired of offroad content" crowd, is all of the under the hood stuff the devs released with those updates. A major example of this is the shock absorber simulation is now fluid dynamics based. Which is huge for creating a realistic handling suspension. They also did a lot for contact patch traction values. Since this is a dynamic soft soft body physics engine at its core, getting realistic traction and handling offroad will consequently make the on-road content that much closer to reality. There were many more under the hood improvements that seemed to go largely ignored under the screeching about offroad content, which I fully enjoy.

[@FerralVideo]

Honestly, this was almost the fate of the game for me. "That quirky crashing simulator." I played it back in the days of the potato tire model, and once I got tired of smashing cars into things, I quit and forgot I owned it. I actually forget what reintroduced me to it. I want to say it was Jimmy Broadbent. From there, it was a case of reinstalling the game, trying it out again with the new tire model, and ... well.... I rolled over 800 play hours this weekend. I want to see more larger race track maps. Right now you can download real life tracks via modding, but that has an intrinsically lower appeal than those baked in. There's also the problem of mods going out of date - my Spa mod broke in spectacular fashion with v0.30, with the tight hairpin now having large swaths of white blocks in the middle of the road. I've lost count of how many laps I've done at Hirochi Raceway. I've also done a few at WCUSA, and Automation Test Course has been a welcome challenge. But that can only sate my appetite for hotlapping or racing for a little while. I get the limitations on licensing to try to use real life tracks in official release, and inventing original courses is quite challenging for the devs. Especially to the ultra-high standards they hold all official content to. Just saying, I'd like to see them put some in. Lawyer-Friendly Nurburgring when?

[@autbo]

I think BeamNG should really try looking into adding licensed cars and tracks once the game is near completion (with car manufacturers who are more willing to let their cars get banged up). I understand that licensed content can complicate matters, but if BeamNG were to ever be taken seriously by the racing sim community it needs to have accurate real cars and tracks. Considering how quickly the racing sim industry is expanding recently, it would make sense to attract this crowd so that BeamNG isn't viewed as a "toy" when compared to other sims.

[@jwalster9412]

I got it way back in 2014-15 I remember the classic east coast map, with the wavy roads. I forgot about it until they did the collab with automation. Immediately I was surprised by how -much it lagged my very under speced PC at the time- I mean, my how well the cars drive even back then. Then they dropped the update a few years ago the fixed high-speed handling, I haven't stopped driving the bolide since.

[@erkinalp]

@@autbo Volkswagen Group is actually using BeamNG for their simulations and ECU development.

[@Damian-cilr2]

@@autbo problem with that is most manufacturers don't appreciate their cars getting destroyed in any way in games,which is why many car games don't have much damageable bits on cars (for example need for speed) And even still,they would need a LARGE amount of money to convince them to let them add real cars due to that,so yeah,very likely not happening

[@AmitVijay-y4u]

I love how BeamNG is able to mix both the crash damage and the car simulation elements into one. I love seeing how unforgiving Beam is when the driver makes a mistake and ends up in the trees, guardrails, or Armco.

[@robwoodring9437]

How you think/talk about your product matters. A product my business makes was conceived of as an "entry level" item and we spoke of it in those terms for far too long.....it was our lowest profit margin, but sold well. Once we realized we should've described it as "another quality option" due to how good it is we started selling the upgraded versions (high profit margin) and almost never get an order for the base model. We changed how we spoke of it, and soon our customers tell each other about it the same way. TL;DR: beamng needs to be redefined as what it truly is, but that starts with the beamng folks' words.....not within the consumer base.

[@drumstick74]

Good points, mate! What is TL;DR ?

[@robwoodring9437]

@@drumstick74 stands for "too long;didn't read"

[@aimaniqbal6609]

Absolutely, for me, this game transcends the typical car damage physics found in other games. It stands out as the paramount driving simulation experience, surpassing renowned titles like Assetto Corsa, GT7, and Forza Horizon 5. What sets this game apart is not only its realism but also the inclusion of a compelling career mode that immerses players in a lifelike racing environment. Every vehicle, whether it's part of the original game or a mod, contributes to the game's overall intrigue. As a dedicated car enthusiast, I find the depth and variety of cars immensely captivating. It's disheartening when people reduce the game to mere accident simulation; it offers so much more. I envision this game evolving into a vibrant community akin to other racing games. Its myriad advantages, ranging from street races and drag battles to time attacks and off-road adventures, make it a comprehensive racing experience. To me, this game epitomizes a superb simulation driving game that encompasses all facets of racing. I remain optimistic that the developers will continue to enhance the game, making it even more outstanding. It's my hope that the community around this game will flourish, matching the camaraderie found in other racing game communities. Picture this: effortlessly drifting through city streets, towing your car to a track race, all while experiencing the same thrill as playing a truck simulator. It seamlessly combines the excitement of off-road adventures with the intensity of competitive racing, delivering a truly enjoyable driving experience.

[@Wheelz3]

When I got the game 5 years ago I got it for the crash physics then after playing it for a year I stop crashing cars and started to race cars around tracks and now I build crazy car builds and put on ai traffic and just cruise around the west coast roads

[@simracingeverythin5832]

Thank you for making this video, BeamNG is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond a crashing simulator, I'm just hoping this game becomes a proper Sim Racing software, similar to Assetto Corsa, it is on a good path at the moment to become this, the FFB system is getting better and better by the year. One thing I really hope for example is that the Sim Drifting scene switches to BeamNG from Assetto Corsa, we just need better tyre simulation. Also I love that they are focusing on Offroad Simulation since we don't really have any Simulator that can do it all so well, So I want to see the rally and crawling community to use this game too. (just saw the part that where you talk about people criticizing the developers on focusing too much on offroad, but I think it is very important, and I do like offroading a lot myself but I'm not being biased here, one thing people have to understand is that development takes a loooong time and their focus on offroad simulation has so far lasted a very short amount of the total development time of the game, I'm absolutely sure they will move on to other parts of the simulator in the near future, but I want them to polish the offroad simulation a bit more. this is a Simulator for all types of cars and terrains) Regarding paid mods, I have purchased most of the good ones, in the end it's still really cheap, but yeah, obviously I'm not going to pay money for a IRL car that got badly ported and stolen from Forza or something like that, not going to pay for pirated assets. In fact I love that the modding scene in several games continues with inventing cars that are Lore Friendly, GTA 5 is a great example of this too, there are an abundance of mods that people made that may look similar to a real world car but is completely redesigned for the game. Regarding the mostly american content in the game, this has to do with this game being a successor of Rigs of Rods which was a primarily american centric truck and heavy machinery simulator but I'm sure they will move on to other markets of the world too, we already have quite a few european and also Japanese car manufacturers in the game. One thing though, I have felt the opposite with the Community of BeamNG, more and more the community is understanding what this simulator actually is, and I see a bright future in BeamNG's development.

[@Hornet_Gaming]

I believe that people who put effort into mods have the right to charge what they want for them. If you build half a car with no skins and try to sell for $10 you need to be in a mental facility. Either way no ones forcing you to buy them! there are most likely free alternatives anyway.

[@TenRudzielec]

"Crash if you are bad youtuber" Beamng Shorts: *crashes*

[@SUCCUBUS928]

True dat

[@915breno]

I thought about all that, but found me thinking what if there is another advantage to them working hard on off-road first. In simulation, it is one of the most challenging aspects to replicate how the suspension, wheels, chassis, and everything else work in a car during off-road conditions. Imagine when they master all of this and begin to work on the next genres such as racing, drift, etc.. it would be easy compared!

[@TR33420]

I just play beamng drive for touge racing the newer tire physics feel so nice even on steamdeck i can visually see the tires compress and distort to the road and the crashing gives an added challenge your not just trying to go fast by any means necessary your also worrying about the condition of your ride❤

[@plasticacaria6427]

i used to play so much rigs of rods, when beamNG came out it was fire, they were even saying they were the same devs. Of course BeamNG has always been about crashing, and it's what makes the beauty of this game. Can't believe that was 10 years ago

[@crashium]

Make the full BeamNG iceberg, would be interesting

[@SlimothyJimothy621]

Some of these brand new mods are worse than some of the oldest mods for the game, like the Oldsfullsized mod pack, that mod is probably from around 2016 and hasn’t been updated since, it’s still got the black background thumbnails, same with the Gavril Vendetta mod, some of those old ones are truly amazing for their time

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

If you're a creative person and like cars, BeamNG is the best. Period. I have spent hundreds of hours customizing "vanilla" BeamNG cars, resulting in dozens and dozens of unique designs (some look so good they resemble paid mods). And I never got tired of it. Furthermore: you can adjust how those cars handle, and in the process learn a thing or two about real-life suspension engineering concepts such as "camber", "toe-in", "rebound", and so on. Also I customized many of my cars for "escape from the cops" scenario, which is extremely rewarding and quite a challenge, because BeamNG introduced more aggressive Police AI with the recent update (try driving all the way to the airport on Italy map with cops hot on your tail).

[@a_rice_bowl3663]

My friend was complaining that the newer off-road cars don’t crash very well, and I brought up the fact that beam is really seen outside of the community as kind of cringe crash game when it really is so much more. I see it as trying to change it reputation which I understand.

[@Jokujopt]

This are the things i hate about beamNG; • The UI Interface is the biggest problem, it's not noob friendly, it's all buttons under button under button with a bunch of uncategorized options, what's the point of all the sandbox options if everyone is to scared to used them, they weren't even told where to find them or how to use them. • The optimization, even high-end computers have difficulties running BeamNG at High+ Quality, is unacceptable. • Delays after a click, even with High-end computers most of the times takes 2-5 seconds to get a response to a simple click on the menu (In-game). • No Missions/Challanges worldwide leaderboards. • No official multiplayer. • No Real life assist systems/security features. • No Airbags. Edits: • No hands! I can understand not having a person inside the car (BCS of accidents) but u can still add hands no? • No Realistic Rain. Disclaimer: I don't hate the game, i love it and play it a lot, it's my favorite driving game and i acknowledge that it's in alpha. Also i love off-road keep the updates coming beamNG!

[@Yavore346]

Yes! The menus. They are awfully slow. I have a pretty good system that runs the game briliantlly on maximum settings, but yet the menus run like ass. I really hope the devs polish them a bit because they look and feel very rough and crude. About the real brands - BeamNG will never ever include real brands, no manufacturer would give a license to a game that lets you smash up their cars in such ways. That's why most games like Forza, GT or NFS have pretty simple damage models. Manufacturers want their cars to be seen in the best way possible, after all being in a video game is a form of advertisement. And frankly, I don't think the game needs real cars. It has a well established lore of fictional brands, well know by now by the community, with fan made models as mods. Also, working with fictional brands basically gives the devs unlimited freedom. They could make any vehicle in any configuration they like.

[@Damian-cilr2]

@@Yavore346 the menus have always had a problem with running like ass,some people say its smooth for them,for others the menus run at like 5-10 fps,aka run like ass

[@luizpedro3]

Those TikToks and YT Shorts of beam ng are awful af, looks like a content that a 5 years old kid would like to see, this is pretty sad for a game that have so much potential

[@wolfox_m]

In France, we only have one big youtuber who play beamng for others thing than crash. I try my self to do good content for the french community but I just start so I don't have a big place. But I will continue and I'm pretty close to 50subscribers ! 😁

[@susybaka-susybaka]

Can we just talk about how amazing Gabester is in terms of music production? :D

[@my_name_is_jeph.2020]

The most I agree with is the steam page pictures and trailers, @beamng please update them

[@godek6614]

Just imagine what a proper racing update, multiplayer features, better bot and the weather system would do to this game. I literally wouldn't play anything else.

[@MagnificentlyHighAlien]

I randomly stumbled upon Rigs of rods ages ago, and got beamng as soon as it was released. I don't mind the current off-road stuff, it's fun to test. I do miss some European and Japanese stuff, especially small/kei cars like the Cherrier Picnic, AW Goal, Bete and Ibishu Chisai A European or Japanese map would be cool too and I hope some stuff like that will be a vanilla part of the game at some point. I'm glad the Beamng team takes their time for stuff instead of throwing out a shitty update every 2 weeks.

[@Key2K3]

Fun fact. I know a guy making a REAL BeamMP career mode. Very buggy rn but this is pretty huge 😮

[@GmodDiesel]

I feel like the BeamNG devs are giving us 'waves' of vehicle body classes. What im saying is we're in the 'offroad' period of the waves, next lot of cars could be track, drift or even dragster!

[@schirmcharmemelone]

using a direct drive wheel and standing still with the car: uncontrollable shaking of the whole car

[@SkyFall4839]

Play around with the smoothing settings. I have a CSL DD myself and never suffered from oscillation

[@dodgy1779]

I just wish they would fix the damn tire model

[@Crowphy]

They actually changed the steam page now :D

[@nmlss-r9]

My biggest issue with beamng is the lack of focus. We got vulkan years ago but to this day is random chance if its gonna work properly or not, meanwhile they added VR support, career mode, graphic improvements for the old x11? renderer, Linux support, blender to beams plugin and lots of vehicles and maps. All the features above, except the vehicles and maps, have issues to the point of often being unusable. Why not focus on one thing and then the next one? And they dont public any sort of roadmap which makes me think they may not even have one. It reminds me of early valve but intead of doing half life they are doing a marvel of computer engineering with lots of fronts to tackle. (Or a good game company but with adhd)

[@SkyFall4839]

I see what you mean, but don’t forget that this is an early access game with a relatively small developer team. I’m not totally sure to be honest, but I suppose that the developers are split up into different groups (e.g vehicle creation, scenarios, physics improvements). They aren’t all working on the same thing, so it’s obvious that it seems like a mess sometimes, even though it isn’t.

[@junkmail3947]

​@@SkyFall4839​early access? You do know the game was available for purchase 10 years ago? That and the technology has been in development for more than a decade. I see your first BeamNG upload was only a year ago, so I'll chalk it up to you being a noob who doesn't actually know anything, kinda like what you said

[@tlevi6337]

I think the main reason for why we get another off road veichle in 0.30 is that in one 0.27 teaser there was a UTV that is not planned to put to the game and some people are get mad about it.

[@vliedtke]

BeamNG has always started out as an experimental physics sandbox. It was made to test out a completely new approach to simulating physics in a video game. I think it is completely wrong for people to judge the game for its ability to simulate specific and individual things like circuit racing or rallying. BeamNG was never made to be a AC:competizione killer or an iracing killer. If you want a game that specializes specifically in GT racing or rally racing, there are plenty of games that do exactly that already. The point of BeamNG is to create a platform that unifies all genres into one. In BeamNG you can do circuit racing, street racing, rally racing, leisurely driving, bus and truck routes, rock crawling and off-roading, all in one platform, seamlessly, without needing to use a different physics engine for each task. THAT is the strength of beamNG and it does an amazing job at just that. The fact that people even compare BeamNG to traditional racing titles, when the game was never even designed to compete with those games in the first place already speaks for how impressive the physics engine already is.

[@AmarTechPlaY]

This man is just spitting fax, i mean about the crash simulator, i sometimes enjoy my ride and i suddenly crash, and i hate itt so muchh, like i just wanted to drive a car 😅

[@spoolysnail32]

Mods that are well made are worthy of being paid, some mods are ridiculously good for only a couple of bucks

[@sbeve6969]

personally in my opinion only early access for mods should be paid because it's beneficial for both parties because the creator gets paid and community members won't have the fear of the idea of every mod being paid and they'll be more cooperative with mod creators

[@Bllksem]

I mean I knew beamng as “the crashing game” for a very long time, since really when I last watched a lot of beamng was a long time ago. I didn’t play it because back then I didn’t have a pc, but the reason I bought it to play it a week or two ago is because I wanted to get into racing games again and the scenarios looked fun, though what I really want now is official multiplayer support for races. Scenarios and time trials are fun, and I haven’t tried beammp yet, but I really want that competitive aspect to the game. Even just proper leaderboard support for the time trials and races would be good, instead we just have the stars based on what position or time you get.

[@drslime7]

I've been loving the narration man makes the videos heaps better keep it up.

[@SkyFall4839]

Glad you like it!

[@ENDERMAN15489E]

Id honestly recommend free mods so you wouldnt lose money on something fake

[@Zer0kbps]

Great game/sim, I'm not into crashing but more, I like the failure of the cars when pushed to extreme, love the offloading the best, but wish the levels had some sort of geomod where the cars would dig in to the ground (e.g. snow runner) and tyre wear, that needs to happen along with visible heat dissipation.

[@Gadres4839]

This video is so good and entertaining. Good job! AND THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME AGAIN IN YOUR VIDEO :D 2:22

[@BeamCar918]

hi

[@SkyFall4839]

Glad you enjoyed it! And no problem of course :)

[@edwardthecar2300]

It's still 3rd highest player count for racing game on steam

[@kyle207]

Maybe they are working on a huge Germany map and that is why there is only one. Since they live there they would have much more ease to create a map because they can see it often and create a very detailed and possibly a bigger map.

[@SuperTime2Change]

The one thing that BeamNG Drive severely lacks is multiplayer support by the client. Not mods, but official support. Many more people would play if the client directly supported multiplayer. I feel if they actually implemented it that BeamNG Drive player growth would be substantial. It's a lot more fun to drive around with real people who share similar interests. The last few times I joined in BeamMP on a few servers, we were rock climbing, racing and drifting the streets of Italy, cruising the highways on Ohio and other maps, sharing tuning tips, driving strategies and so on. Without official multiplayer, BeamMP is just a great car driving simulator without anybody to share the experience with. Guaranteed if they added official multiplayer support the game's player growth would soar.

[@BeamCar918]

nice video. actually gave an insight on what is actually happening. keep it up! :)

[@SkyFall4839]

I’m glad you liked it!

[@Snirby1629]

well guys, beamng is still here almost a year later and has stronger numbers than ever

[@MRVCSL80]

Been with BeamNG since 2012, The problem BeamNG has in my mind lately the devs just are dropping content drops. The games tire model is heavily outdated and needs to be fixed asap

[@Fluffy_g3]

The end of BeamNG, It's far from it, these issues only seem big when you focus on them, As a whole the BeamNG community and developer team is fine, There will always be bad apples in the basket, People who overcharge for their shitty mods, Or people who steal mods, But overall BeamNG is nowhere near the end, If anything it's just starting

[@SkyFall4839]

That’s true, but take other games as an example: When the community breaks apart, it usually only takes a couple of years until the development ends. We have to prevent that from happening!

[@f-j-Services]

You can have so much fun with a basic install of BeamNG. This was YEARS ago, but I would edit vehicle config, goto engine and transmission and replicate an 18 speed in the T Series (but I made it full powershift which is even cooler) and would edit weight for trailers, and then edit how the turbo spools and max boost. You can even add more steps of numbers same way I added gears since there was and dont think there is an 18 speed. The possibility's are near endless, and then I always dreamed of having Automation game merge with BeamNG and FSX (Now just Flight Sim). Well, Automation can let you export engines and vehicles. It blew me away, never thought I would see that ever happen.

[@francemiaou]

I think you all seems to forget that BeamNG community isn't just the vocal minority of people that complain on Reddit. Most players don't use Reddit at all, and most people on Reddit aren't complaining about the off-road content. It's only a minority...

[@drewywgx924]

If it didn't take a fcking PhD to start an AI race, maybe id put more than 300 hours on it

[@fendtfahrer8117]

The biggest problem of BeamNG in my opinion is, as you said it, that most people think that the only thing you can do in this game is crashing. All these countless youtube videos and channels and especially the shorts specificially made for small children make most people believe that beamng is a game just like wreckfest or burnout or dangerous driving or whatever. So many potential new players that are very interested in cars and tuning and stuff are held back by this simple stupid trash content. I find that terrible because for me BeamNG is a racing, driving, offroading, trucking, tuning, experimenting, photographing, and crashing simulator, not just a game for ,i dunno, driving cars off a ramp in that stupid jump arena (no offense against the map or the map maker). I don´t even have that map, because I mostly spend my time in the game just modifying and testing cars. but that´s just my opinion...

[@SkyFall4839]

I 100% agree

[@wake2779]

Multiplayer added and if they also made a like a raceing mode like assetto corsa or something it would pop off

[@S-396-Shark]

now that you put a different perspective on beamNG being used on brain dead kid content it actually is saddening that probably many millions of people(including racing gamers) just see beamNG as a cool crash game but thats it. hopefully with more people now making amazing racing content with BeamNG it will lead to a bigger audiance that will spread from word to word about the cool and amazing detail of BeamNG that no other games have achieve

[@Furfluff]

i will never use paid mods unless beam sets up some type of "marketplace" in the repository, and have the mods be moderated before being uploaded to the marketplace, paid mods would act like paid dlcs basically

[@zenkoz3158]

I'm convinced that the only people who dislike paid mods are actual children, for multiple reasons. Mostly that it's hard to convince a parent to pay some random person on a website they know nothing about and the kids don't have any true knowledge or mindset of how work, time, and wages work. Every adult can understand being paid a modest amount for hundreds of hours of work and utilizing a niche talent.

[@Salod7806]

1. not sure why people buying this game to crash cars would be a bad thing. 2. there is plenty of variety from old to new cars and they usually have planty of options from rally to hillclimb cars

[@RutinEZ]

Exactly, People are overreacting just because it has crash physics like lemme play the game the way I want to play it.

[@Newbinator]

2:53 nah bro thats too far man :( Honestly the crash physics is one of the main reasons why I want beamng, but its also because I like touge racing/driving and stuff like that. I mean sure, there are games like assetto corsa or forza, but the crash physics is like the cherry on top.

[@RutinEZ]

Yeah, I don't get why people are saying the crash physics are the bad thing

[@hoodbaxter]

I kinda want to hear you talk about the dramas the beam ng community is facing (mostly because I don't know them).

[@SkyFall4839]

Trust me, you can be happy that you don’t know about them.

[@endziopl4753]

6:54 how is it actually outdated? I find it match the current quality of maps in beam.

[@subaruenjoyer]

Would love a map based on the japanese touge

[@Sagojika]

A japan map with a tokyo like city,freeways,touges and a racetrack in one map like italy or west coast usa would be really cool

[@NaNa-ye6lx]

how could anyone hate Skyfall bru

[@jtac8]

They should also update the requirements, the game is a lot more demanding because of the latest updates compared to the original tech demo. Also, developers added offroad content to test and virtually emulate suspension physics which are completely outstanding, a lot of pro sim racing youtubers tried the last updates and actually liked the content, it's a great game.

[@linuskorff4074]

I just enjoy playing it, exploring maps in my favourite vehicle.

[@wolfox_m]

Clic f11 and here is the "true beamng"

[@lorenmax2.013]

I think the devs should also add more sport-like updates to show that this is more of a car game instead of a crash game. I don't want the game to become forza motorsport, but at least give us slipstreaming, an easier to setup race AI, and enhance the performance to bring in those sweaty tryhards. I bought this game because of the crashing, but I spent more time driving around Utah at night, racing in the automation mountains, or even just tuning cars than crashing. I have a friend who at first said "nah, that's the crashing game for kids". I got him to race in f1 2020 and then Beamng, he has far more hours in the game than me now. Like it or not, this game needs more racing themed updates, rather than the TikTok feeding wasteland cars.

[@RutinEZ]

Crash physics are one of the main reasons why I play the game.

[@feamtortress2]

I appreciate the mention in the video, but my main points weren't even about the other theory that you showed. I mainly criticized much of the complaints of the recent updates and the devs, as I felt that much of it was very fueled by emotion and not reason, as well as ignorant of how the development process works and exaggerating how bad the issue at hand is. I find it very short-sighted for people to say that off-roading is their main focus from now on, considering an update with virtually zero off-roading content was added in between and one of the most requested vehicle types was also added that had little to do with off-roading. In general, there's still a lot they added that kind of makes that conclusion very farfetched and/or exaggerated, and criticisms start to become unhelpful at this point. I'm planning on making a video myself on why many of the criticisms of the devs are terrible, as it's been an issue I've had for a while. Also, one of those criticisms that I believe is mainly fueled by ignorance is the issue with the diversity in its car selection. I'll also be making a video on this soon. Basically, much of BeamNG's car roster was added and/or revealed during the earlier stages of the game, and the game direction was much different, centering more around driving shitboxes and entering them in demo derbies. Think Wreckfest and My Summer Car as to what it used to be envisioned. It doesn't make as much sense for them to include a bunch of modern sports cars and classic European icons, considering that when people think of shitboxes and terrible cars, old American is typically what comes to mind. A LeGran and a Barstow fit much more than a classic 911, 300SL, and Golf GTI. Cars like the Bluebuck and Wendover, which were released in recent years, where initially developed way before, and are relics of this older vision. If you look at the newer ideas not conceived 2015 and before, you'll see much greater diversity that pushes the limits much more. While it's not perfect, keep in mind that they're doing all this at the same time as everything else, and making cars is just really time-consuming. TLDR I really don't think these issues are that bad lmao

[@SkyFall4839]

I totally agree with that. If I recall correctly, the forums were full of people requesting more off-roading content a few years ago. You will never be able to make an entire community happy.

[@sauliens7]

I love BeamNG as well, but man... The mirrors... They have to do something about them. I don't know why not a lot of popular BeamNG youtubers talk about them 😆.

[@SkyFall4839]

Higher resolution mirrors would require multiple viewports, which would lead to a dramatic decrease of performance.

[@sauliens7]

@@SkyFall4839 hello. I appreciate that You responded. But a game like City car driving simulator has very nice mirrors or Asseto Corsa...

[@SkyFall4839]

@@sauliens7 yeah but don’t forget that BeamNG’s game engine is dated and poorly optimized. Other than that, all the physics of BeamNG are very complex so it requires a lot of processing power anyway. I agree though, better mirrors would definitely be nice to have :)

[@klaczeq]

for me minuses are: quality: in one time is good and bad, fps: I have under 30 fps on sense graphics, boring: no grind is good and ban in one time, bugs: I have so many lags and crashes

[@SkyFall4839]

What do you mean with ‘quality’? As for boring, it is a sandbox game so it’s up to you to make it interesting. The devs are working on a career mode though with actual progression, you can get a work-in-progress version by clicking the tab in the main menu. I agree with your other points.

[@klaczeq]

@@SkyFall4839 as 'quality' i meant that qualiy in 9.99 meters is nice but in 10 meters is horrible (i know that is a mod to do this but i think this or qualidy blending should be in standard game), career mode... I'm waiting for this and I will be happy if it will bring some grind. but carriages system is IMPOSSIBLE to do in less than 10 days of playing... maybe some plot but good because it's hard to do i know (optional for me cause its sandbox...), maps are small i think... PS. I bought Forza horizon 5 and open world part is this what i wanted for beamngdrive.

[@yolo7870]

im one of these that actually know the potential and currently i have 432H

[@SC_GMD]

Something else in common which has same issue is the game geometry dash, you dont need visit it, you can probably imagine what GD shorts are like

[@Damian-cilr2]

YT Shorts themselves are just a breeding ground for low effort,shitty content so no wonder it is that way.

[@Milky_manIRS]

who else got on Beam NG from WhyBeAre

[@SkyFall4839]

Me!

[@ChaosPootato]

I think your opinion on paid mods is fair. Some mods are SUPER high effort and quality and deserve to be compensated. I prefer mods remaining free but I'm not gonna bitch against a modder that wants some money for months of work. There's definitely a window of opportunity for grifters though, it's up to us to filter through the BS and find the good stuff, we can't just assume the paid stuff is good and then treat every modder wanting money like a scammer. I also think the opinion on BeamNG have shifted since it's debut as a "crashing simulator", many content creators use it for actual racing content (maybe not serious competitive sim like AC, granted) like our good pal Jimmer

[@turbo_marc]

I'm fine with paid mods (now, at least, I used to hate them) but I feel like the people who make paid mods take basically all their mods (even free ones) a bit too seriously.

[@danthedrifter5597]

Problem whit beamng: youtube shorts creators and a bunch other kid stuff videos

[@seansmall4671]

I just think of the game as a in development high realism game and the developers are doing what early Minecraft did focusing are one part till it is done then moving to the next most popular thing in the list

[@Madpiggaming]

Honestly, let the people just play for 2 hours, the sim racers know what the game is, even the the majority of people think something of the game, that doesn't matter, they don't play the game. The real players know what the game is, what is has to offer, and where its going. It will be the greatest driving sim ever created, its almost there.

[@observingrogue7652]

I didn't know there was drama in the Beam Community. What drama, and over what? Nearly eerything I know about Beam, is from CarMighty, Muye, Camodo & Neil, and FailRace videos.

[@observingrogue7652]

BeamNG is a great game, and I'm looking forward to buying or building a PC to play it. Especially escaping cops with motorcycles and offroaders. I hope Beam gets a pursuit & street race system like NFSMW'05

[@xXxXENcoreXxXx]

I have always said it. The selling of the game has dropped! They need to release some DLC content to boost the game company! This is the solution to speed up things. It's been early access for quite long time !

[@maxusgintus8160]

The steam page was recently updated!

[@gtsdiecast3506]

That Scintilla is clean asf. What is the taillight mod called?