General History: Yavuz, Last Ship of Imperial Germany

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@richardcutts196 Жыл бұрын

I always thought it was a shame that she wasn't saved. Unlike Warspite, the money should have been there to do it.

@hardcasekara6409 Жыл бұрын

Proably not since West German goverment was proably more focus on purshasing and mentain and up to date military in an event the cold war went hot than buying their old warship which they barely used back, add to that any possible repairs that might need to be done to the ship to make her fit for service as museum ship let alot the long term cost of maintance and future repairs.

@DK-gy7ll 11 ай бұрын

What doomed the Yavuz was politics. The West German government didn't want to touch her with a 10-foot pole lest they be accused of fostering Imperial German nostalgia. Remember it was only 20 years since the end of World War Two and the specter of Nazi Germany still hung over their collective heads.

@alephalon7849 2 жыл бұрын

Yavuz had quite the long and impressive career. It was a pleasure to hear about her exploits, especially regarding the eyebrow-raising time she lifted that seaplane out of the water using one of her main gun barrels.

@skyneahistory2306 2 жыл бұрын

Obligatory apologies for pronunciations go here. I was divided on Breslau (is it an 'ow' sound or a 'law' sound?) and Yavuz (is it a 'soft' z like I use, or a 'hard' z?) but I always try my best. And try my best to take in suggestions on that. I also realize I pronounced Sevastopol multiple different ways. Oops. Anyway, this is a long video, but I felt that Yavuz deserved it. And there is *still* stuff I didn't cover here. Like her being technically a NATO reserve ship.

@gurkanozcan4212 10 ай бұрын

Hard "z" is the right answer, if i reply your question as a Turk... Many thanks for your video.

@genericpersonx333 Жыл бұрын

Always thought the German grosskreuzers were underrated for being excellent compromises between firepower, protection, and speed for their time. They were tough enough to survive battleship-grade firepower, fast enough to make cruisers nervous, and had the firepower to hurt anything they were likely to meet. Like all compromise ships, they wouldn't excel in any one category, but could flesh out a line of battle with the battleships and scare the hell out of the common cruisers. Without the naval treaties basically slapping down cruiser development beyond 10,000 tons, I think a lot more cruisers of the 1930s would have looked more like German grosskreuzers than not in terms of protection and firepower.

@sebastianbockholt8302 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another fabulous video. For me as German it is a pity that SMS Goeben wasn’t preserved as museumship. Would have been a fantastic landmark. But I guess her Turkish role was much too long in comparison with her German. Although she was important to keep Russian and allied ships away from the main theatres. Additional we don’t have any pure military history. We suspect always Nazis behind every possible military culture .

@hardcasekara6409 Жыл бұрын

I think it wasnt much about it beung a warship more so the cost of having to mentain such a ship of that size might have been seen as better spend purshasing new military equipment to defend themselfs in the event the cold war went hot. Just look at Texas and how long it took her to get some proper repairs and she was newer than the Goeben and suffered possibly less damage. Also the fact that no other country has Battleships as museums ships other than the US and I guess Japan with Mikasa also says alot about how much it cost to keep those things.

@davidmcintyre8145 Жыл бұрын

It is a real shame that West Germany of the time could not have saved this ship as a museum when offered it by Turkey. Though given the fact West Germany was rebuilding itself at the time it is understandable

@Kwolfx 11 ай бұрын

From what I've read, Turkey didn't offer to give the Yavuz to what was then West Germany. They offered to sell the Yavuz to West Germany for the low, low price of 10 million German Marks. Plus, the German's would have probably had to tow the ship to Germany. It's not like the engines were in very good shape by that time. On top of that, there would have been the costs to restore the ship and make it safe for tourists to board. Of course, West Germany was not only trying to live down the Nazi past, but the Wilhelmine Germany past as well, so they weren't taken with the idea. Plus, the proposed sale price would have been a huge ripoff. The scrap value of the Yavuz was between 1 and 1.5 million German Marks. It's a real shame that a more reasonable deal might have been worked out between Turkey and West Germany and that the then West German government lacked the foresight to see that restoring the Goeben / Yazuv would have been very much like restoring a medieval castle, but in this case a castle made out of steel.

@bkjeong4302 Жыл бұрын

A big-gun capital ship that actually deserved preservation.

@phinhager6509 Жыл бұрын

Which ones don't?

@bkjeong4302 Жыл бұрын

@@phinhager6509 Pretty much every WWII-era big-gun capital ship save Washington and Duke of York (neither of which were preserved, sadly), due to being strategically obsolete by the time they entered service and never doing anything that couldn’t have been done better by other naval units or other military units.

@danielkorladis7869 7 ай бұрын

yeah, while the Iowas are interesting, they had mostly uneventful careers. Washington and South Dakota actually at least fought Kirishima... but of course they're the two that aren't preserved. @@bkjeong4302

@bkjeong4302 7 ай бұрын

@@danielkorladis7869 Washington fought and destroyed Kirishima, SoDak did nothing but act as a punching bag and just stole the credit (not the first time her crew lied about her performance either)