Douglas Murray slams ‘deeply destructive’ intergenerational trauma ‘excuse’

Author Douglas Murray has slammed “demoralising” complaints of intergenerational trauma by failing communities which are using it as an “excuse” for not being as competitive as they should be.
Shadow Indigenous Affairs Minister Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was asked about the impact of intergenerational trauma on Indigenous communities during a National Press Club address on Thursday.
Ms Price rejected the idea that Indigenous people were suffering negative impacts from colonisation and instead highlighted the “positive impacts”.
Mr Murray hailed migrants and disadvantaged communities who have found success without using their trauma as an “excuse”.
“When a community is lagging behind, as long as they can claim some kind of intergenerational trauma, they don’t have to be responsible for their own fatherhood problems or their own motherhood problems or their own drug or alcohol or other addiction problems,” he told Sky News host Rita Panahi.
“They don’t have to be responsible for work problems or anything else and I think it's a contemptible message and it's deeply destructive to the people who have to labour under this excuse or have to use this excuse.”

[@Anikanoteven]

Our church sponsored two vietnamese 'boat' people/famililes. The two dads worked doing manual labour at a local business. They bought beautiful homes, and their children are all university educated and are now working as professionals in the community. I'm sure they faced obstacles, just like my family did when we immigrated to Canada, but you either choose to move forward or you stay stuck.

[@leannemoore7752]

So true. These are my parents! Worked so hard for my brother and I, and have owned multiple properties. I have nothing but respect and gratitude for their sacrifice as well as the example they set for us.

[@ulrikjensen6841]

THAT was a great achievement by your parents - they not only set an example for you, but for their new countrymen, but I am still wondering why Europe was obliged to take "boat refugees" from the other side of the Globe? UN?

[@Anikanoteven]

@@ulrikjensen6841 Agreed. The days of being obliged is over. That was way back in the 80’s in Canada, so we weren’t dealing with the mass immigration problems we see now, thx to our idiot PM Trudeau. That kind of immigration works when the numbers are small enough for a community to help them, without the incredible social programs and money they are given now. I just found out that my new fabulous dentist ‘s father was one of these boat people from Vietnam. Immigration can be a very successful experience. What’s happening now is not.

[@namesake-mx9nl]

Great to have a big dose of common sense and reality , very well done Rita and Douglas , always a pleasure listening to you both .

[@noelvoss6744]

Douglas rocks. He's so smart and he's got a great, dry sense of humor!

[@BanjoPixelSnack]

Intergenerational trauma exists. But it exists for everyone. Literally every person alive to a greater or lesser extend. The trauma of the second world war is still in my family two generations later (alcoholism, depression, neglect). When you realise that the buck stops with you then you have to be the one to heal it or it will continue on. You dont wear it like a badge to excuse your resentment and entitlement and terrible behaviour. Thats the opposite of healing. Wanting to to punish people you dont know for something they didnt do purely based on the colour of their skin is not rational.

[@WhatTheWHAT524]

Very well put! It's all about mentality and the want to actually better yourself and your life.

[@aelixa]

I wish more people realize this.

[@teenaa9948]

Very well said. This is exactly what bichi good is all about, and victimhood sells, people care today more about feelings than the truth.

[@Falconlibrary]

"Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"--Monty Python, "Life of Brian"

[@mandychadwick9262]

🤣🤣🤣Brilliant film ❤

[@davidcoleman2796]

Love it . 😂

[@sejamstihm]

The aqueducts?

[@ydad8946]

As well as architecture & art.

[@slaapliedje]

Brought peace?

[@StevieVBrown]

Whenever the title of a video begins with “Douglas Murray slams…”…. I’m guaranteed to watch it. 😂 As far as Senator Price - 🙌 I love this woman, and her Press Club speech was her crowning moment, yet I have a feeling she’s just getting started, and I’m here for it.

[@BwahBwah]

... his boyfriend.... ? Would you still watch..? 🤔

[@stephj9378]

Douglas is always on fire

[@bampitony6108]

This bloke speaks sense the Establishment and the woke brigade hate him very very intelligent on the side of the people..Well done Mr Murray..👋👋👋👋👋

[@beckinfidelis3916]

I'm from Memphis, TN, where there is a thriving Vietnamese community. Overtime I came to realize that to restaurants I loved and a liquor store LOL we're all owned by the same family and saw some of the same workers at each. In one restaurant after lunch I saw their children doing homework and when they were done they started cleaning off tables. At the neighborhood liquor store I spoke to the two young men working there, they young but still very knowledgeable about, were both full time college students who were working every time I went and I saw them working in a restaurants too!! Incredible. They were also very kind and friendly towards me. ❤

[@thraciangrapes]

Douglas Murray is a fantastic speaker! Such clarity honesty and fairness, Bravo! 👏

[@LondonSteveLee]

It was quite normal for some Aboriginal tribes to use their young daughters as sexual playthings and even lend them to friends and family. It was quite normal to face starvation, to be attacked and killed by other tribes. The lives of these people have been immeasurably improved by the forced adoption of western values and technology - isn't that enough reparation?

[@outback109]

If life is so bad why do they not go bush without the evil of colonisation...1/3 of WA is under exclusive native title so there is plenty of room.

[@galegrazutis964]

Becuse then they won't get their country government handouts,and alcohol.

[@lovefromthesun]

Oh Douglas, God bless you. You give me hope.

[@mindyourownfuukingbiz6737]

My country was colonised by the UK..... If not we'd have been stuck in the dark ages..... Yes there were downsides BUT WE DEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THAT!!! HISTORY HAPPENED AND UT CANNOT BE UNDONE!!!

[@trishlangford5773]

Lets be frank. When the British arrived in Australia the indigenous people were a neolithic , stone age culture. Due to complete isolation from the rest if the world . One of the greatest civilisational influences was of course the Silk Road which carried ideas across the Euro/Asian continent. Colonisation brought modern civilisation to the Australian continent

[@flyonthewalltheatre]

You have to admire Douglas Murray and Rita for their insights. vote NO.

[@kimj5037]

I just love how Douglas can so eloquently some up a contentious term like equity, "Equity....is a smuggling term. A whole load of bad ideas get smuggled in behind the term equity." And, now to also add Dove to my 'do not ever buy again' products. One good thing to come out of these woke companies, is more people are looking for locally made goods.

[@kenwoodlam4759]

I’m big fan of Rita and Douglas. He’s brilliant and not afraid to tell the truth. He explained the hamas and Israel situation very well. As a Vietnamese refugee in America I thank you for acknowledging our accomplishments, something impossible to do in communism Vietnam. When I see the woke mob here in the states calling for socialism and advocating for open borders and saying how racist America is, I just really want to tell them if they hate America so much they can leave but none of them will. These useful idiots don’t know what a socialist utopia looks like nor do they understand anything about real oppression from the government. I came here on a boat 32 years ago to escape communism. Vietnamese people are all thankful for the opportunities we have and our attitude is always gratitude.

[@lesliesepssy9222]

Winner takes ALL, learn to live with it, the Money is good? One Australia! Keep it that way! Vote No!

[@stevecastro1325]

9:25 “1984”, “Atlas Shrugged”, “Animal Farm”, and “Fahrenheit 451” were all written before 2008. Gotta go.

[@janusjones6519]

The british are the greatest civilisers in the history of mankind bringing culture, enlightenment and modernity to the world. It’s disgusting how their vital role to this world has been twisted and demonised. The only words that should be coming out of a aboriginal should be ‘thank you’

[@oiraetumai9252]

Yes, they learnt a great amount from the Moors

[@lordknog2883]

They didn't bring culture, they destroyed it. Aboriginal people already had a culture, one that is mostly lost due to the British. Modernity given by bayonet is immoral, it could have been done without bloodshed. Thanks shouldn't be given to a country that pillaged and killed as they saw fit.

[@robynmoase2004]

Rita Panahi is divine and Douglas Murray is terrific in every way. Thanks to both of them ❤

[@2dclxvi]

There are over 2.2 million Vietnamese immigrants in the U.S...I haven't heard any outcry from that community for reparations or claims of "intergenerational trauma" getting in the way of their success. Households headed by a Vietnamese immigrant had a median income of $81,000...for African American households it was about $54,000. The vast majority of those Vietnamese immigrants arrived in the U.S with no money and not speaking english after having fled a war torn nation...but here they are just 2 generations later making their way forward into the middle class despite all those challenges. The sooner we address the the nation's tyranny of low expectations AND the cultural roadblocks to success within the black community the sooner that community might be able to find a pathway to success the same way that the Vietnamese have.

[@rodneyjessop3398]

Rita and Douglas are two modern heroes, neither one plays vitum nonsence. Just truth all day every day. God bless.

[@theresadoll5374]

“Equity” now means “exclusion”.

[@waynesloane3157]

'Equity' is just the latest word for what was originally called 'Affirmative Action', which began half a century ago! They keep changing the name of this racist exclusion of Whites, hoping that it will sound 'righteous'. They think we don't know what's going on! Problem is, that they're still getting away with it!

[@sheilap.mckinzie6943]

Londonistan, Londonestine, London bridge is falling down!

[@marolynbriggs1878]

Yes, RELIEVED!

[@laineandrews9291]

There are traumatized groups who acknowledge their wounds but don't let those prevent building a good life, the best honor one can pay to ancestors who have suffered oppression - Jews, Balts, Vietnamese and others escaping communism. Then there are groups who moan and make claims on others who had nothing to do with past oppression, visiting the "sins of the fathers" and not even their fathers on them. The moaners do poorly despite billions thrown into their morass of self pity - Palestinians, black Africans, North American Natives etc. It's not the degree nor how recent previous horrors were that counts, it's what you do once you are free and safe - doers vs moaners, worker bees vs drones.

[@navinshettigar5137]

Considering big ticket reforms in Australian Indigenous lives occurred around 90s, there are living generations who have faced and potentially passed the trauma of experience to the next generation. I do agree there is a point when the trauma will ease to be. However the human mind works in circles living in the memories of the past, these generations are bound to be triggered and react strongly. My belief, we are still a few more years before this goes away. My experience, my grandparents of Indian origin born around 1947 Indian Independence from the British, bore the pain of the struggles left by colonizations and they unknowingly passed it to my parents. Only in the last 15-20 years, I have observed them free of those pains and living some what free life.

[@globalroamer1900]

My ancestors were convicts........I want reparations

[@ElizeCloete]

Facts don't care about your feelings!!!😁

[@kellysouter4381]

I don't know how we can help beggars or buskers if they take cash away.

[@bad_vibes_]

what a good idea having Douglas on once a week!!

[@stephengilchrist6595]

Well, Dove is finished...

[@David-hq4lq]

There's nobody like our Duggie !

[@JanPBtest]

11:44 Isn't the phrase "lawless immigration" an oxymoron?

[@Susan-z6z]

❤Douglas Murray, truth teller

[@poppy1779]

People are still starving in this world and this woman behaves so selfishly. That's bad.

[@curleex3838]

As soon as i see are Douglas in the title im in for a listen to this very wise gentleman.. ✊🇬🇧

[@brek5]

I can kind of buy the notion that ideas get passed down that could derive from trauma of ages past. I mean, just for a simple example, my grandmother came up during the Great Depression and was very poor. Until she died at 95, as far as I know, she would collect up any salt or pepper handed out at a restaurant (by the time I was alive, it was the '80s, and nobody in my family was poor anymore), and she'd put them in her purse ot take home and pour into her salt and pepper shakers. She kind of infused this level of austerity into her kids, but at some point, my parents and then my generation had to look at it and go, "This is no longer necessary." So, I get how things could be passed down, but I also believe people have to analyze those behaviors and modify them when they no longer apply.

[@stephj9378]

Comment of the day

[@oiraetumai9252]

Endemic > Invasive species

[@iditbarmats]

Douglas...so smart. An amazing man!

[@phoenixprotocol452]

This is a great example of a powerful woman and a role model.

[@keekong2158]

Have you forgotten that when COVID first came out, there were people having contests to see who could catch it first? This is just another stupid stunt.

[@johnoldfield2390]

Of course there's a responsibility requirement.

[@daryllee2560]

They value their victimhood

[@gemox3225]

Everyone has felt like a victim at least once in their life and everyone has been an actual victim at least once in their life, whether it was of verbal bullying or robbery or any of the above; however, no one is ALWAYS a victim in every situation. Let's suppose a native American guy does face some discrimination at work, and then, he goes home every night and beats up his wife. Is he a victim in both situations? We are all, especially as adults, both oppressors and oppressed, depending on how we act and what we do on a daily basis. Even some children are a mixed bag as they are bullies at school and then victims of bullying at home. To claim to be an innocent victim in every situation is a claim of perfection as one is saying one has no fault at all in every situation. This type of person is merely a manipulator and may even be manipulative to the point of being mentally ill as they seem to have lost all perspective.

[@galegrazutis964]

DOUGLAS MURRAY ALLWAYS RIGHT IN POINT

[@murryrozansky8753]

I recently read an H.G. Wells novel from 1908. It was prophetic and a good read. It is now gone?

[@uptoapoint7157]

What did the Romans ever do for us?

[@lostcause6100]

To be fair to the aborigines regarding sanitation - there were very few of them on a large continent - eating a very unprocessed diet - who probably just pooped in the bushes and moved on being largely nomadic so did not need plumbing or sewers any more than our stone age ancestors did. Modern medicine was undoubtedly a blessing but they lost their freedom and independence and were driven off their coastal land into the brutal interior - was it really a fair exchange for anaesthetics and antibiotics?

[@dwaynejoyce1357]

Many people that speak out on the negativity of colonisation are the very people that have benefited from such history, you cannot make this shit up. 😂

[@TheHouseOfWaffles]

Shortness of breath, lethargy, osteoporosis, tendency for heart attacks. *This is what liberation looks like!*

[@purenkool2024]

As a US Democrat, I don’t like VP Harris. I voted for Biden after the Primary because that was the Party choice but I was not thrilled with him. 🤔

[@Grayto]

The conception of intergenerational drama as some kind of magic curse that is handed down is the problem. Intergenerational trauma occurs because, generally, people who are traumatized make for terrible parents, neighbours, and community members. The answer to this isn't constant pity and financial assistance. It's heightened support and mentorship that includes accountability on part of those receiving support. It may be unfair, but those who are traumatized may have their communities' destroyed at no fault of their own; however, the ONLY way to rebuild these communities os if these same people take responsibility for it. There is NO OTHER WAY. And treating these people otherwise does a disservice to them, because NO ONE wants to be a perpetual victim, and NO ONE can lead a meaningful life if they self-identify primarily as a victim.

[@johnlambert272]

Love you rita

[@lenwilkinson672]

She would be fantastic for a bouncy castle fo a childrens birthday party.Where does she shop for her. Clobber.

[@audreyann1975]

I love Douglas Murray 💖!

[@whur]

I heard somewhere that it was 2008 because the last Harry Potter book was 2007...

[@andrefreitas3907]

Someone say things like they really are This is a man with balls

[@marek7641]

Poland and Poles are great example.

[@jaybabcock4557]

What have the Romans done for us besides, medicine, roads, sanitation, clean water, education and the wine, what have they done for us. Sounds like a python skit.

[@asekuvena]

I don't know why anyone expects communities to magically develop at breakneck pace 🏃🚅. You don't see countries magically get ten times as strong in a decade. Especially not counting authoritarian states, which these people don't live in.

[@chuckmaddison2924]

Ahhh I'm so traumatised and mentally damaged. From the invasion by the Roman army 2000 years ago. Italy needs to provide compensation .

[@patriciamueller2498]

I think 8000 illegals have beat you to it.😢

[@noelvoss6744]

😂😂😂

[@sarahhumphreys3980]

😂😂😂

[@CobinRain]

The Romans were not “migrants” ….er….”Chuck. They were adding provinces to their empire…maybe a little like British India. As far as archaeology can telll the people of “Roman Britain” were by and large British people living through a radical change of government…. and culture. What’s happening now is mass migration and it has to be stopped if we are to survive.

[@chuckmaddison2924]

@CobinRain Have a look at all the Roman buildings and roads . They weren't planning a quick vacation. They were not short-term thinking . As far as I remember, you had to sign on for 20 years if you could survive training. Unlike 4 years now.

[@johno9507]

I have severe intergenerational trauma, my Great Great Great Grandfather was dragged here in chains on the second fleet for hard labour building roads and quarrying sandstone, taken from his family in England never to see them again. I demand handouts because of his suffering. 🇦🇺

[@mehmettemel8725]

Yea me too as a migrant kid who couldn't speak much English was bullied at high school.I demand a generous handout as well for the trauma and suffering.😂

[@theabyss8087]

I've brought this up with Aboriginal colleagues... they just look at me with contempt?

[@merna00]

@@mehmettemel8725that isn’t something to compare

[@banta-pd8zj]

Can't think of any family stories about dear old great great great great what's his name and his experience in the wondrous new land downunder? How many generations did it take for your family to even acknowledge his existence. Go on, you must have learned of how long that shame plagued your kin. Pulled up his socks, tightened his belt, girded his loins and said "she'll be right boyo" did he? Have you even read your own history? Why don't you start with the "the fatal shore". Imagine, that history detailed what the English did to their own. Their own! No wonder that aboriginal looked at you with contempt you wilfully ignorant boyo's.

[@alijames180]

😂😂😂😂 exactly

[@pwcrabb5766]

Love Murray's unabashed willingness to articulate the obvious and to disregard hurt feelings

[@rt-uh6mt]

It's a worldwide poisoning of minds to guilt people into giving up. And I honestly can not believe how effective it has been.

[@rt-uh6mt]

It's like world war 3 but it's all mind games, not a single shot fired, but enormous amounts of land and several cities have already been conquered!

[@planetmikusha5898]

Considering Indians used to throw widows on their husbands' funeral pyres, hundreds of millions of Indian women should be big fans of the British Empire for stopping this barbaric practice.

[@cherrrielouise]

people always use "they used to do human sacrifices" as the worst example of indigenous barbarism and that now thanks to the Europeans, people are so much less barbaric... but now thanks to the Europeans, people in the ghettos just stab and shoot each other to death instead so humans are just as barbaric as ever it's just expressed in different mediums

[@cheapthrills9035]

That was atrocity literature concocted by the brits.

[@planetmikusha5898]

@@cheapthrills9035 Then explain why there is an Indian Prevention of Sati (killing of widows) Act of 1987 in the Indian legal code?

[@cheapthrills9035]

@@planetmikusha5898 u must read book by Dr Meenakshi Jain named Sati. As far as that is concerned well it is used as a weapon by leftists to use such atrocity literature against Hindus.

[@memoryhero]

But don't you know the practice was steeped in deep meaning for the indigenous people? ffs. XD

[@Messier45_Pleiades]

I grew up in England post war. My parents were traumatized by the bombs dropping and the fact that both had their homes damaged by bombs when they were in them.. I have never claimed intergenerational trauma because of it.

[@patriciamueller2498]

I hear you same here. Born post war in London and grew up with a very traumatized mother from the bombing and my father away fighting. We as a nation would have been horrified to even think of asking for any kind of compensation and from who when every country was suffering. This is what ticks me off the most with these poor me wokeness people and what really disgusts me as that a Prince of the Realm is right in there with them.

[@stanleywoodison8699]

Get stuffed .

[@ashleymcmurray5060]

@@stanleywoodison8699you get stuffed Stanley you Mug.

[@stanleywoodison8699]

@@ashleymcmurray5060 I've ordered the Paxo.

[@mrsmarple2655]

And what about bombed Jugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria....

[@michaelbrown-pq6vu]

What about white Australias "intergenerational trauma" from fighting the nazis and Japanese? Wheres our pity party????

[@campbellstiff6674]

What about the Aboriginal soldiers who did the same and receive none of the veteran benefits and land handouts that white returning soldiers did? Imagine fighting for a nation that stole your land, killed your ancestors and then called upon you to fight, just for them to abandon you after their need for soldiers is over. Also, I would imagine that the pity party for white Australian’s who fought in WW2 would be the 2 national public holidays we hold in their honour.

[@JohnDoe-bo5yk]

​@campbellstiff6674 the land wasn't stolen, it was conquered, get the fuck outta here

[@annviolet4727]

And all the conscripted young men sent to the Vietnam War and were spat on when they returned?

[@liameyles1450]

@@campbellstiff6674 pretty sure that's for all military personnel regardless of color but people like you like to make it so not to mention conscription was a thing for white Australians also

[@michaelbrown-pq6vu]

@campbellstiff6674 image even half of that was true. 2-5% of Australian war casualties doesn't change the vast majority of blood shead was white, and the Japanese would've wiped every aboriginal out iust like the Aboriginals did to the pygmies and stole this country from them. Aboriginals stand on stolen land that the pygmies never ceased ownership of.

[@TheGrimReaper9884]

If I met one person with African ancestry, in the 'racist' UK. Looked into the history on the country/area they came from, and spoke to families that had stayed in that locality, rather than come to the UK. I'd be able to point out the famine, civil wars, armed coup's, tribal conflict's, fatal disease outbreaks, and general hardship/poverty, the 'racist' UK has sheltered them from?

[@lordknog2883]

The UK also caused many of those things, so I'd consider that cancelled out personally. Although it's not really about how racist the UK is or isn't, it's about the UK doing their best to wipe out cultures with the only remnants being some stolen relic in a museum across the ocean.

[@julieholdcroftbetty8520]

@@lordknog2883 what about the cultures wiped out by the Africans who sold their own in the slave trade?

[@Trebor74]

​@@lordknog2883if the Brits wanted to wipe anyone out then I'd suggest they'd have done a much better job. The fact is that what they wanted primarily was profit,and as a byproduct of that,and it's religious views,it created the modern world that people are benefitting from. Including those complaining that their past was some bucolic ideal,which it wasn't. They just don't know how crap that past was. It's all rose tinted glasses

[@lordknog2883]

@@Trebor74 Forcing Christianity, killing indigenous people and stealing their artifacts is destroying culture. Perhaps wipe out is an exaggeration, but they were trying to replace Aboriginal culture with their own, even if that would mean destroying Aboriginal culture completely.

[@nordicnemo3512]

Nice non-existent point. I love that you have a Person's 5 profile and you're literally fighting ghosts with your statement. Most normal Persona fan right here 😂😂

[@guyledouche357]

Generational trauma isn't a thing. A decade ago we called that "a chip on your shoulder."

[@TheCkhutton12]

Hot take!

[@marcuspitts2482]

​@@TheCkhutton12True take!

[@guyledouche357]

@@TheCkhutton12 not really. 20 years ago this take was called common sense. My grandfather was severely abused by his father as a child. I carry no trauma from such events that I never experienced. It's no different for descendants of those colonized or enslaved. If they have trauma it's because they have a chip on their shoulder and identity issues to work through. Period end of story.

[@leonharrison800]

Generational trauma affected many of the stolen generation. Even more we hen lied about the reasons for removal and how the Indigenous Affairs department refused information about family to those removed. All about control and deceit. Something the Murray Bigot would not care about or comprehend. Time to call out Sky News and shut down the Rita Panahi Bigot.Treat her with the same contemp Indigenous Australians received.

[@sylviamaresca8852]

Sounds to me they got the whole tree on their shoulder

[@JamesCartist]

Douglas Murray is correct, the adults Need to be talking and not just the activists who rely heavily on histrionics.

[@ukacip9310]

what land do they have?? they just got their rights in the 70s but the land is still owned by the government

[@JamesCartist]

​@@ukacip9310 all land is government owned, regardless of the race or country you pay for the right to live in the place created by the graft of those before you. wars are fought and land claimed often renamed, to hand it back we would then need to ask who to and where do we draw the line? land has changed hands endlessly over time and improvements to living standards have been wrought over that time which benefit everyone, nothing in history is perfect but the endless complaining while holding out a hand for more is tedious.

[@ukacip9310]

@@JamesCartist oh yea easy as just leave my family on the dirt to sleep on and apply for a job with noclothes or nowehere to shower

[@banta-pd8zj]

The no vote aren't into histrionics? Yeah right.

[@franktully3065]

@@JamesCartist Well said JamesCartist.

[@andyquelch5754]

Question for leftists. Without colonialism what do they think Aboriginal people would be doing now? What's stopping them from abandoning the trappings of western life and returning to an aboriginal lifestyle? If it's so much better, do it.

[@chuckmaddison2924]

If they went back to their old ways they would miss out on Centrelink , Bunnings and Liquorland.

[@mehmettemel8725]

@@chuckmaddison2924 I got the two but couldn't figure out the Bunnings bit.🤔

[@chuckmaddison2924]

@mehmettemel8725 Yeah, Bunnings, adhesives, spray can's, and solvents. A snorters buffet 😋

[@lordknog2883]

I don't think anyone is arguing that they should go back to the Aboriginal lifestyle, just that the way we achieved our advancement was through needlessly cruel methods. I am not arguing against advancement, or technology. I am arguing that we could have done that without bloodshed and stealing children. I haven't seen someone arguing against modernization, although I'm sure some do, as that isn't the main issue. Even those who do have a problem with the modern world (at least, in my experience) have a larger issue with the way Aboriginal people have been treated throughout history

[@andyquelch5754]

@@lordknog2883 I agree with much of what you said. But that is not what many of the pro Voice commentators and authors are saying. Particularly with their attacks on Jacinta Napajinpa Price. Many of their arguments are that there have been no benefits from colonialism. None at all. From which you can only draw one conclusion. They would prefer to live their lives as if colonialism had never occurred. But they won't. Leftists never do.

[@agnesvanya2329]

I have nothing but the deepest contempt for every single person who has let this happen to libraries, and for every parent who sees this happening in their children's schools and does nothing about it. For shame. Teachers have gone mad.

[@LondonSteveLee]

I have nothing but contempt for the bulk of Australians and sat back hiding form a virus and allowed their government and police force(s) to brutalise people standing up for their rights. Pathetic.

[@mikem.s.1183]

​@@LondonSteveLee True. But: what does that have to do with the absolutely shameful situation Trudeau and evil Leftists have pushed onto Canadians? As far as I remember, Europeans, north Americans and Australians have let fear dominate their lives and almost everyone watched with arms crossed while the Police brutalised peaceful citizens. This whole situation is abhorrent

[@lesleycrowther-scott1809]

i agree whole heartedly

[@martinheath5947]

The system now comprises all the wrong people exclusively hiring more of the wrong people to educate and control the next generation.

[@herbjones3601]

Right on! I fear there is becoming an increasing consolidation of those with progressive ideology which is extremely intolerant and wishes to aggressively virtue signal and/or has a larger agenda, possibly relating to Marxist ideology. The evidence/data is so extensive and clear that despite the shortcomings of capitalism it is by far the best political and economic system in the history of the world and is a major contributor to bringing people out of poverty and into some degree of affluence. It is also responsible for most technological and healthcare advances and any other advancements or enjoyment we experience in this period of time. For instance, how many famous restaurants or cuisines that have been brought to the rest of the world have come from Russia, Iran, China or North Korea? On the other hand You have fabulous, internationally known chefs from Spain, Italy, Japan, the US and other less autocratic societies. It is too bad that people in Spain drive like people in Minnesota instead of like the people in the rest of Europe.

[@jemzargo]

The Minister for indigenous affairs said colonialism.was never a good thing.. Reminded me of that Monty python skit from Life of Brian about "What the Romans did For Us"

[@campbellstiff6674]

@Jim-zd6mn We may all have to return to that way of living. They survived 60,000 years that way. We’re not going to have much of a planet left if we continue on this path :)

[@petercrisp8314]

@@campbellstiff6674 lmao more fairytales

[@crazymage9636]

​@campbellstiff6674 global warming is a scam nobody is going back to throwing sticks at kangaroos.

[@ElizabethOgbeifun]

@@campbellstiff6674 one of the smartest and most civilised comment made so far.

[@G0ogs]

Exactly

[@DAVROSS72]

The moaning & whining left, maybe they should be grateful that the Dutch didn’t settle in Australia in the early 16 hundreds, have a look at South Africa.

[@vijaynair2403]

Douglas brings up a great point about the Vietnamese. Here in the States, Vietnamese Americans have thrived in the past few decades. They can easily claim “inter-generational trauma” but they don’t. They have strong families and communities in Southern California especially. And they most definitely do NOT claim victimhood.

[@RendezvousWithRama]

I think this is also why the Left seems to dislike talking about the Jews' history and possible trauma. Because if you admit that the Jews were horribly oppressed, then you have to admit that oppression does not mean you come out a one-dimensional victim. People who want to rise above victimhood will do so. But worship victimhood, and you'll raise a generation of victims. We tend to move towards the goals we set.

[@CyberneticOrganism01]

In another interview, Douglas seems to support Israel. The Jews were victims of holocaust, and now some Jews want to pass on their victimhood to other innocent people. What Douglas is saying is that Jews can forget their trauma and inflict the same monstrosity on NEW victims and that's just a STUPID idea for a man who pretends to be an intellectual.

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

@@RendezvousWithRama It’s very easy to indoctrinate people who already have low self-esteem, especially if those who are doing the indoctrination not only agree with you but also multiple it and then tell you who to blame and make you hate them for no reason.

[@ulrikjensen6841]

Wonder if the Vietnamese's former countrymen are doing equally fine in Vietnam? An interesting study, I am sure.

[@Father_Brother_Son]

This whole thing of getting rid of books before 2008 screams to me of people trying to impose a New World Order and destroy any remnants of the old regime. That’s what it seems like to me. Tyranny, dictatorship, and autocracy at their finest.

[@vickielawson3114]

And it’s coming from the same culture which so greatly vilified the nazis for book burning. They don’t see the parallels there.

[@Father_Brother_Son]

@@vickielawson3114 And vilify all Christians as book burners too. They never see the parallels because hypocrisy and unawareness are at the heart of leftism.

[@madmelwood3778]

Yep..the same as trying to stop teaching "old history " cos it's too.old.

[@madmelwood3778]

​@@vickielawson3114they don't want to cos they want to come from the "right place with the right way of thinking " 😂😂😂

[@757History]

Rita rocks and Douglas is awesome

[@rosettaeagle1718]

@757histry. Rita has no idea what is going on in the world. Or any one on sky news. Things are much worse in this country an the world. Unbelievable just blind

[@banta-pd8zj]

What is it about these trite daytime celeb shows. All that Douglas was missing was a bow tie, a pair of flouncy hands and a cute intro like "Rita, you've been at the botox again you old tart?" (My apologies to the lbgtq community, I just couldn't resist).

[@maryann1067]

The Irish, too, suffered trauma, but they have succeeded in many countries (even those they were sent to as convicts-looking at you, Australia!)

[@MarcIverson]

In the U.S., you're not even allowed to say you don't support open borders without being called a racist.

[@lalaboards]

If you don’t believe in welfare , you don’t care about the poor , if you think Climate change science is alchemy , you don’t care about the planet , children and you hate kittens . . These people have the minds of children .

[@lalaboards]

We need fat head liberation .

[@Truthseeker371]

In the early 90's when Australia had the third surge of migration, the buzzword then was 'racist'. In a sense, Aussies are all subtle racists, yet they pretend to live peacefully minding own business. Most of the Aussie population are not interested in "multi-cultural" or the immediate neighbours. They are busy minding sports and joking😂 Good or bad, Aussies trait is "don't give a damn". They mind their own damned business. That's personal peace.

[@WayneBraack]

We are totally allowed to say that. The vast majority of people won't call you a racist for that. Only the minority of stupid drifters who are too ignorant to realize the harm they cause.

[@dyinhope6840]

I don't support open borders. No one in my city including the legal Mexican immigrants do either.

[@alunevans2377]

Well put Douglas.

[@LUV733]

Always a refreshing relief to hear voices of reason & maturity- thank you both! I'm tired of people throwing their toys out the pram because they're offended! Life gives us all varying challenges to grow through. It's called opportunity ! Nobody promised a utopia on this planet....let's all grow up!

[@harrying882]

Who in the name of god is the gigantic humongous auld woman yuck.

[@lizaoneal7356]

Absolutely correct!

[@nerdhub3460]

DM: "I am relieved there are still some grownups left in Australia"

[@raymondpinfold9870]

There are very,very few of them. Jacinta price and warren Mundine, Anthony Dillon,Pauline Hanson,Paul Murray,Andrew bolt,Corey Bernardo, Rowan dean,James morrow and Rita panini are some others. There are very,very few besides these courageous people. God bless and keep them all.

[@yourstruly7952]

Love Douglas, always says it how it is!!! ❤

[@birdley9577]

When are the convicts going to be recognized?.

[@Lastindependentthinker]

Here here.

[@michaelstark5663]

White people don't matter. The struggles only.matter if your coloured *sarcasm warning*

[@trevorcook3129]

@@Lastindependentthinkerhear, hear

[@Christine-cl8ey]

Have they ever thought that during WWII that Australia was invaded by the Japanese and what would have happened if we hadn't been here to help fight them off. The scenario could have been quite different today

[@johnniegruesome1464]

Yeah, yet they conveniently forget that...

[@robot336]

JACINTA FOR PM ! 👍👍

[@lordknog2883]

Australia wouldn't have been invaded during WW2 if it hadn't been colonised, it wasn't even going to be invaded at all. Without colonisation, Australia probably wouldn't have joined the war at all

[@philip5940]

If not formally and avariciously claimed by Britain, then possibly Australia may have developed along lines of China in the 1800s with it's American, Portuguese, Dutch, French, British .......administered sectors. So maybe French, British, American naval forces would have been on the continent and reasonably equipped to take on Japan for ww2 .

[@philipwilkie3239]

@@lordknog2883 And a few hundred thousand unarmed, pre-industrial Aboriginal tribals would have somehow dissuaded the Japanese from utterly subjugating them over a long weekend?

[@deniserothwell6325]

Hot and cold running water, indoor toilets, heating and cooling of homes, building codes, education, health care, transportation, instant communications through various means, food at the supermarket and clothing must be worth something. Civilation might have its down side but would one seriously want to go without it. And if one truly wanted not to be part of it this is a big country and you can go bush and do what you want.

[@Womble1252]

It's called 'cake and eat it' 😅

[@deniserothwell6325]

@@Womble1252 Exactly!

[@TheInvoice123]

​@@securitycompromized exactly! They have gone bush but now want everything delivered

[@stevelozevski8151]

​@@securitycompromizedif that's their choice then that's their choice.

[@deniserothwell6325]

@@securitycompromized They don’t have indoor plumbing, no education or health services, no transportation, supermarkets? I have indigenous people living near me and are living in very good housing provided by the state. I live in the inner city though. I understand that people live in these remote areas because of ties they have there. But it’s my understanding that a lot of people regardless of background who live in remote areas are disadvantaged in some way. I once lived 90 klm outside of a city and I found it hard going in terms of education and employment. But my point was does civilisation count for anything? In the days before colonisation all indigenous would have lived in a remote situation due to the fact there was no modernity here. Do you think they are better off then or now. Serious question.

[@CSUnger]

One quick look at what’s happening in South Africa will tell anyone with common sense, what happens when a country jettisons Western European culture.

[@laurakain1524]

What's going on there other than 1/5 the population being AIDS ridden?

[@DominicPelleREAL]

Count your blessings and get on with your life. Everyone puts up with crap occasionally. That's life.

[@sfrwriter]

Thanks for saying it, Rita and Douglas. Here in Canada, the natives go on and on about intergenerational trauma as well.

[@eden7440]

I am so traumatized by the Vikings enslaving us, then the Normans, then the Romans. Norway, the French and the Italians all owe me reparations for this. I'm waiting.

[@thelamington8195]

The inhabitants of Australia were essentially still in the Stone Age before “colonisation”.

[@hereandthere6001]

well at least they knew how to live with the environment instead of destroying it.

[@lukerutter4471]

That's a harsh assessment. Different to the rest of the world but by no means equivalent to the stone age. The way of life was advanced in its own unqiue ways, its just it was so different to european ways of living. One things for sure they certainly looked after the environment alot better (yes with a lot less people) but who knows in 150 years time we may be wishing we adopted a simplier way of life instead of feeding this consumerism machine. It's not a simple assessment is all im saying. It was a clash of two completely different living styles that arguably were or never will be compatible.

[@mehmettemel8725]

@@hereandthere6001 They didn't know any other way did they so what's the fuss all about.Don't tell me they want to go back to their old way of living because they won't.It's basically an excuse to siphon more money.

[@hereandthere6001]

@@mehmettemel8725 the fuss is about them never having had respect, we could have learnt from them but instead we dehumanised them. So now you're going to tell me british invasion and colonisation was because they didn't know any other way? bullshit its an excuse to siphon money, they are still dying of rheumatic fever, a disease that disappeared from white australia in the 50s!! People complain about racism, but there is more racism directed at our indigenous then anyone else. Its selective racism.

[@petercrisp8314]

@hereandthere6001 actually no they didn't hence why most has improved

[@TommyMoritz]

I know a person who came here as a Vietnamese refugee. He is a legend and contributes amazingly to society, and is a lot kinder than many people of my nationality.

[@vantheman3878]

Douglas is on a roll. Some potential timeless quotes in this piece.

[@tomraw4893]

full marks for Jacinta, for attacking this 'Poor Bugga Me" syndrome, welcomed by all fine and successful aborigines. 'Fat Liberation', at least will disappear as its members vanish due to natural causes

[@vindeljay]

True so nice to hear people saying as it is.

[@plaguedoct0r]

It makes me upset that it needs to be said at all. It's so bloody blatantly obvious!!!

[@homebuddha]

Bout time someone said what’s necessary, you cannot move forward holding past grievances for error and mistakes by former generations. We can be a country gripping past pain or we can venture forward wiser not to make the mistakes of our predecessors. History teaches us to ‘learn’ from our past, not live in it.

[@maestorm1420]

The past is still affecting the indigenous community because there has been very little in the way of reparations. The British genocided them not 200 years ago and gave no compensation and you expect the community to just move on?

[@garrybarry4286]

@@maestorm1420 pointless trying to appeal to this knuckle dragger with logic my friend, he only reacts when there is a grievance that personally affects him, empathy is a foreign country.

[@twistedsister2568]

Unfortunately some people don’t have the will or capacity to move forward and why would they if they can extort money from spineless governments.

[@homebuddha]

@@maestorm1420 no one is denying the historical significance of the past, it’s an ugly reminder that we can be so cruel to one another. Our point is this: 1) We don’t apologise that we are over listening to a broken record that does nothing but divide and hold us back. 2) misery loves company. People are raising their families, working and being productive towards their families futures and that of the county, we are not interested in negative reminders from anyone living the past within their present 3) we feel the pain but the mistakes made were our former generations, they are not our burdens to apologise for. 4) we know from history countries of power and influence dominated and obliterated cultures in their bid to create a civilised colony. They were THEIR mistakes. We don’t need to be reminded. As I said. History teaches us to ‘LEARN’ from the past, NOT LIVE IN IT. We can empathise with their pain, but it doesn’t stop. Eventually yo reach a poker where you say fuck it! Who cares. That’s not in disrespect if the past suffering, that is direct reference to the present mentality that some people are just happier living in past miseries never growing from their pain, consumed by it. It’s their choice, just as much as we have ours not to continue that depressive dark memory in our history. The sun shines, life continues. Reparations will never appease this kind of pain they hold on to. It becomes a vine, weaving in to our present & future, photosynthesising on peoples misery.

[@petercrisp8314]

@maestorm1420 that's a complete lie 45 billion per year plus royalties plus the rest more reparations than any other Race alive plus all the grants ect ect yeah nobody's affected

[@Lastindependentthinker]

My people see time as a circular thing and are still suffering under the hands of the Roman Empire over 2000 years later. What have the Romans ever done for us? Insert Monty Python skit from Life of Brian.

[@davidcoleman2796]

My South Vietnamese neighbour came to Canada in 1991 with nothing . Now he's a millionaire . 😊

[@annstar4306]

Thanku Sky Regional channel 53 ! We are lucky on the Mid North Coast that 😀 your station is with us and it remains on Sky for me ! Love tha Outsiders and evenings and your awake TV presenters , your all so different ,real and naturally attractive people with none of the pretence and Narcissism on Mainstream TV! This man Rita your interviewing is so correct and intelligent ! ❤️Xo