‘Ideological obsession’: Chris Kenny slams Labor’s renewables-only push

[@jayhellyer5406]

When it comes to Matt Keane two things are true at the same time, he's got no idea and he's lying.

[@littlelotta7975]

Coal is our most reliable and cheapest no need to replace coal

[@briananderson7285]

The tree's and Great Barrier reef loves co2.

[@dimitzvonmelbourne7886]

Why we are not learning from EU and Germany failures? ♨️♨️♨️

[@Disinterested1]

they already well know! this was only EVER a scam! look at where the money goes China and billionaires!

[@andersdottir1111]

I’m tired of labor’s useless hobby horses

[@GCALcontent]

We should abandon our NetZero UN-treaties and the deindustrialising energy policies that underpin it of the current day government.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

Renewable poverty

[@vancouver63-p5w]

That’s the plan to drive the middle class into poverty.

[@ironmaidens6663]

Renewables are expensive and unreliable and it is time we stop carrying on with this lunacy. If emissions have to come down, then we should look to nuclear as it is much cheaper, more reliable and is emissions free.

[@bobmaxwell9572]

Our net Zero(intelligence)while making Australia very poor reduces China,Russia,America and Indias emissions from 58% to 57%,well it could if that 58%isn't going to reduce,China's 2 new coal power stations are opening every week.

[@georget8019]

The coalition will win handsomely the next elections. Two of the main reasons will be "energy stability" and nuclear. Enough with the labor shit!

[@vijayendranvijay457]

Wouldn't trust incompetent/corrupt governments with nuclear energy. Can't even recycle solar panels and wind turbines, all which are mostly recyclable. Couldn't even recycle paper and plastic properly. You would trust them to responsibly handle nuclear energy?

[@pk-ld6dp]

Parliamentary obfuscation.

[@Peter-p5u8t]

The energy "debate"? A debate is about facts/information 😂😂Chris Bowen only has zingers and the attitude of a zealot😂😂😂😂 renewables are intermittent and unreliable, just on that, renewables are costly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MichaelLeTekro]

Victoria Heywood-smith, (Melbourne shrink/. Psychology/Psychiatrist (similar circle) she is autistic, as is Conan O’Brien. She’s actually autistic. She has a cashed-up family. She has to learn via repetitive - words- such as catalyst; axiomatic; … Abstract words - that would have you think she’s actually high-IQ…

[@DJ-yj1vg]

You can't debate with them. It's a religion. Otherwise they wouldn't resort to emotional temper tantrums when you dispute them.

[@Berserker978]

​@@MichaelLeTekro What's that got to do with anything ?

[@Geoff-m7j]

It’s a no brainer, Australia has to have a proper and unbiased discussion about the nuclear option. Chris Bowen is politicising the debate and is afraid to engage in a serious discussion in the event the truth will come out. Until there is a serious debate about the real facts labor will continue take Australia down the farcical road of 100% renewables.

[@totalsceptic]

@@Geoff-m7j We need a proper and unbiased discussion about coal!

[@QldTechie]

Will a Peter Dutton government fix this?

[@deanhall6045]

@@QldTechie Uniparty. Work it out mate.

[@Peter-p5u8t]

Yesshhhh, Mr Dutton will fix it😂

[@briananderson7285]

The U.N, WEF, WHO. Labor/ liberal alliance will do as instructed.

[@ianpickett8420]

They better ..................

[@deanhall6045]

@ianpickett8420 How can they. Mate, you need to understand that both sides of Uniparty are WEF. They are beholden to the WEF agenda. Please check what I'm saying, too many Aussies are unaware of the situation we are in. It is a critical time for our country. Too many think that Dutton, named in the Panama Papers, check that too, is the only option we have. He isn't. Hiding money in shell companies registered in Panama disqualifies him from the top job, or any job but the media won't report this. One Nation has zero members of WEF. Their leader is a patriotic Aussie who loves our country. ♥️🍷Cheers mate.

[@brothermaynard3200]

Time to get rid of the undergraduate activists running the country and put the adults back in charge.

[@robertcunningham35]

we had resonable power prices before they closed down the coal fired power stations down as for being run down Hazelwood had new turbines before they shut it down were loosing our cheap power thanks to wind and solar while China gets cheap power by opening 2 coal fired power stations per week

[@jmcham1000]

The Labor disaster just keeps getting bigger by the second....... Lies piled on lies

[@keithmcwilliams7424]

Pure ideology drives kean and his fellow travellers not reality.😢

[@rodleonard2088]

Keaner has probably prepared a desk each for Adlib & Bowang when they finally jump ship. At least BS has had sufficient sense of self preservation to jump before the ship hits the reef!!

[@Janet-hs4wl]

Labor is delousinal. To think renewables will be cheaper for aussie households. Coal and gas we still need these. Nuclear as well. Labor Obviously couldn't give a hoot about sea life, having these atrocities out in the ocean. Whales dolphins can hear sounds miles away these turbines will just cause havoc for them.

[@briananderson7285]

Take a look at what unreliables are doing to the Great dividing range.

[@petermiller4434]

they need stop this now ! what a destructive waste!

[@DieterZimmermann-yf4le]

Germany is using Coal and GAS in their winter, 😊 to keep the lights on.

[@ironmaidens6663]

Merkel and Scholz shut down there nuclear plants and thought they could rely on Russian gas and now we're seeing the consequence of this stupidity.

[@mikefitzpatrick6618]

They are not pricing INFRASTRUCTURE

[@helen_3757]

Brilliant Aiden

[@acotrel1]

The 'energy debate' is only about Dutton's political ambitions - not about what would be good and safe for Australia. The Coalition's luddite approach to science and risk management is a major reason Australia should never go nuclear. People cannot be commanded to be creative. Creativity needs to come from personal motivation, and desire for money does not stimulate much creativity.

[@ColonelSwifty]

Why not a greater focus on natural gas? I am fully opposed to renewables, as they are a massive waste of money. Although nuclear is a step in the right direction it's going to result in absorbent costs and delays due to the fact that no one in this country has ever built a nuclear power station. Look at what is happening in Britian Hinkley C generator at the moment.

[@stevenhamilton9790]

Yea it’s like they believe there nonsense but don’t really but expect us to

[@lloydsingline340]

Two things about this!! First Matt Kean may not be appointed to this Climate Change Authority if Labor loses the election,as they deserve to!!Second the Authority has no authority over Climate change.There are always weather changes within the seasons, eg,the East Coast of Australia is currently experiencing a wet January. Climate is just the average of weather over a long period ( at least 30 years) and there will always be change comparatively with the seasons!! Natural forces determine the change eg La Nina ( wet period or El Nino, dry season or drought,that may run for several consecutive seasons as we experience in Australia).

[@clydesimpson1462]

If renewables had driven down the cost of energy, no problem, lets build more. The fact is renewables have driven up the price of energy to an unaffordable level for a lot of Australians that is now causing hardship across the country. Chris Bowen has to explain to Australians why energy has risen 23% since Labor were elected and when can we see energy prices begin to fall to a lower level than 2022 which is what Bowen stated would happen. Renewables have not lived up to expectations of lowering energy bills. Having spent $1.5 Trillion on Folly the lie cannot and must not be allowed to continue.

[@tassied12]

Renewables are NOT the cause of the rise in power prices. We still have a 60% fossil fuel grid. AEMO data shows that power prices are most closely linked to the price of gas. The Australian Energy Regulator sets the benchmarks for consumer power prices and in recent years they gave the main reason as outages at coal plants forcing expensive gas to be used to fill the gap. In the winter of 2022, up to 14 out of 47 coal generators were offline at once. They also said that prices would have been even worse had it not been for increased renewables output filling part of the gap left by those coal plant outages

[@MrNorris121]

Mango's are really nice at the moment..bit expensive but worth it .😊😊😊

[@legolads1383]

I took a look at the Government paper online regarding the Illawarra offshore wind factory. Two pages long. Mentioned offshore wind turbines a dozen times. But it was missing one word. FLOATING. Because of the water depth they will have to be floating offshore wind turbines which are still new and untested technology. The Peak Power Production of this offshore wind factory is planned to reach 2.9Gw. As of October 2024 the total amount of power generated with this technology WORLDWIDE is 245Mw which is less then 10% of 2.9Gw. Another lie!

[@billevans-u4g]

Keans statement is correct it's just that it has little known pretext that makes it a lie. The fact that he knows the pretext that aemo has strict criteria means he is lieing by omitting the strict criteria. He knows the majority of people don't know the criteria.

[@KevinFrampton-h4v]

A big con Labor

[@MrNorris121]

Watching netflix , all good.😊😊😊

[@rebwolfe2702]

They have brpwn tongues!

[@phillieg58]

Electrical Engineer here The least expensive form of electricity is from hydroelectric power plants, less than 1 cent a kilowatt-hour. Solar and wind power are the second least expensive at less than 2 cents a kilowatt-hour by 2030 less than one cent a kilowatt-hour. By 2035 electricity from solar and wind will be free just a monthly service charge. Coal and natural gas power are the third least expensive at 6 cents a kilowatt-hour. Nuclear power weather fission or fusion are the most expensive form of electricity at 10 cents kilowatt-hour. Fusion power really does work today, sometimes called cold fusion, but it is not politically acceptable. Scaling up cold fusion power plants are much cheaper to build and much safer with no nuclear waste to deal with. But cold fusion power plants will still be more expensive than coal and natural gas power plants. Cold fusion powered super-sized cruise ships and super-sized ships for shipping containers, crude oil and (LNG) Liquefied Natural Gas ships would greatly benefit global shipping. Why I prefer solar and wind power along with some battery backup. Solar and wind power are what we call intermittent or veritable power supplies. Opponents of solar and wind power often refer to it as expensive and unreliable. But the electrical engineers know the truth. There is a mathematical formula used to make reliable solar and wind power along with battery storage. In each metropolitan area, you need to know the peak power consumption. Your great Australian Outback can generate many terawatts of 24/7 reliable electricity. Australia should build a 10000 square mile 100 by 100 miles solar farm and 2 square miles battery backup farm. This and offshore floating wind farms. This means no rate increases and a gross surplus of electricity. With a new generation of Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries that are much safer, last much longer, and guarantee reliable 24/7 electricity. In wind power I prefer floating offshore wind turbines because wind power offshore is stronger and more consistent than onshore wind. When offshore wind turbines are spread out over a wide geographic area intermittent and veritable power output are greatly reduced. There is a statistic known as capacity factor. Onshore land-based wind turbines capacity factor in the best locations is 33%. This means that a land- based wind turbine only produces on average 33% of the name plate capacity of the wind turbine. A GE 3.6-megawatts land-based wind turbine only produces an average of 1.188 megawatts of electricity. The exact same GE 3.6-megawatt wind turbine on a floating offshore platform has a capacity factor of 67%. This means that the exact same GE wind turbine will produce 2.412 megawatts of electricity. But offshore floating wind turbine has one big trick. An offshore floating wind turbine can scale up to 48 megawatts with a capacity factor of 67% so your average power output is 32.160 megawatts. Offshore wind turbine fan blades are max at 200 meters long. No land-based wind turbine can scale up this large. Your average metropolitan area uses 3 gigawatts of electricity peak consumption. When taking capacity factor into account to a have reliable source of electricity you need 4 to 5 times greater electricity from floating wind turbines than peak power consumption. 4 48 megawatts offshore wind turbines week manufacturing on a dry dock than towed to sea and connecting the electrical and fiber optical cables. Less than ten years Australia will have more electricity than it can use. 18 hours of batteries storage will be needed at the power substation level. Every 11 and 22 years there will be a very brief loss of power no matter how many floating offshore wind turbines you have online. Meaning Australia needs a national electric grid. Living here in the United States every week I can see and measure the reliability of having a national electric grid. Backup batteries will keep the power grid stable during such events. Solar power and battery backup on all homes, and commercial building rooftops parking lot canopies and a few 10,000 square mail solar power farms with battery backup in the deserts will greatly stabilize the power grid. Of course, solar power farms with backup batteries must be 4 to 5 times greater than peak power consumption. This will be the lowest cost and reliable electricity for Australia. Technical design errors What Australia is going through are the same type of power failures that Florida and Texas were going through. It’s a very poorly designed electrical system in which power inverters from solar and wind farms and homes line frequency was synchronized to the incoming power grid. A rule in electrical engineering is that you never synchronize your power inverters to an incoming power grid. Power inverters and utility generators are always synchronized to an atomic clock. What this means is when power was lost from the incoming power grid the community would also lose power. In Florida and Texas laws were passed requiring that all power inverters for solar and wind power and utility generators be synchronized to WWVB or WWVH for Hawaii radio station atomic clock or global positioning satellites. Each (GPS) satellite has 4 synchronized atomic clocks that are also synchronized to the other 72 (GPS) satellites and ground based atomic clocks. So, if you have a grid power failure your local power grid becomes a micro grid power will remain on, and the residents would not know if there were a major power grid failure. Australia does not have national atomic clock radio station or national power grid this greatly improves electric power reliability. The national power grid should be three phased 768 kilovolts 50Hz.this high voltage national grid will reduce electrical power losses in electricity transmission. Global positioning satellites was invented by an African American woman. The one big advantage from electric power from solar and wind power inverters is that the power frequency has the stability of an atomic clock. So, both electricity demand and supply can be wildly fluctuating so long as electricity supply is always greater than demand power line frequency will always be stable as an atomic clock. On the other hand, electric power from hydro-electric, coal or natural gas fired, nuclear power both fission and fusion power plants that use mechanical generators that power frequency will fluctuate depending on supply and demand. This is why you must constantly adjust the throttle up and down to achieve frequency stability and to synchronize to an atomic clock. In the analog audio worlds, the old analog tape recorders had a specification called wow and flutter. 'Wow' describes slow fluctuations in pitch caused by inconsistencies in the rotational speed of the mechanical generator machinery. Flutter is a more rapid pitch variation that's usually the result of imperfections in the generator gears itself. These problems do not exist on power inverters frequency stability is always guaranteed when synchronized to an atomic clock. Small modular nuclear power plant will be too costly Small modular nuclear reactors are uneconomical. Your classic 750-megawatt nuclear reactor is much more economical at a wholesale price of 12 cents a kilowatt hour. Small modular nuclear reactors are much more expensive to operate although smaller nuclear reactors are much safer to operate but cost more to operate such as 20 to 24 cents a kilowatt hour wholesale price. These smaller modular nuclear reactors will fail the economic test and are too costly to operate. Hydro, solar, and offshore wind power will be below 1 penny a kilowatt hour wholesale price. An offshore floating wind turbine will last over 50 years. Keep in mind a floating wind turbine can be rebuilt and refurbished, and it will last another 50 years repair in a drydock. Every 20 years the bearings will be replaced, and an oil change every year for the latest single bearing wind turbine. Capital costs are included in the rates with a 10-year mortgage. Mortgage and maintenance costs are included in the rate base. There will be no rate increase with wind solar power with battery backup. It’s the rate payers really pay for the capital cost. Rate payers are the collateral and paying for the mortgage or capital cost. Choosing nuclear power will be a big increase electricity rates for rate payers’ years before nuclear power plants construction starts. The permitting process will be about 5 years and construction time 10 years. Maybe twice or 4-times the rate increase before any nuclear power plant produces its first kilowatt to the grid. Would you pay $2.00 a gallon or $10.00 a gallon for gasoline I would rather pay $2.00 a gallon for gasoline.

[@peterjames174]

if you buy a EV do they tell you about needing to replace the batteries costing thousands, hybrid the same difference, the used batteries go to land fill like solar panels, questioning we're is this good for the environment, everything going to land fill definitely not not good for the environment its a con a scam we are being feed bullshit.

[@tassied12]

CATL now produce EV batteries with a 1.5 million km guarantee. The battery will last longer than the car.

[@bradleygibson1989]

Does anyone know what net 0 is ????

[@jamestinning8900]

Where's this SMR Chris 🤔 3 years of reading the same script and not one commercial example to show us. Never gonna happen

[@rogermckinnon5738]

Lol, China has 2 and is currently building another. Russia has multiple ship based ones, powering a number of its land based bases/ towns.

[@totalsceptic]

@@rogermckinnon5738 You're being unfair... you're bringing facts into the argument... how the hell is james supposed to argue against facts?!?🤣🤣🤣

[@jamestinning8900]

@@rogermckinnon5738 not really commercial or residential examples. The Chinese go close, we could probably commission their expertise, but they would insist it be coastal and urban for logistics. Sydney Harbour & Port Phillip Bay would probably tick the boxes.

[@GregLange-t4i]

Obviously nothing will happen in nuclear space til change of Government. Australia still has ban in place!

[@tilapiadave3234]

There is little doubt that Coal is the cheapest but I think miost people agree we need to stop burning crap to make electricity ,,, but they way they LIE about coal really pisses me off

[@deanhall6045]

Chris, I think someone needs to talk to you about leaving media. Anyone who pushed a bad narrative and refuses to at least acknowledge they blew it, needs to disappear. Politicians, media shills, 'expert' medical advisors, all of you. Only weeks ago you had a sly little dig at Novak and that sir, is called gaslighting. Go away mate, you can easily be replaced.

[@totalsceptic]

i still vividly remember him gushing over what an incredible rags to riches story Albo was on election night 3 years ago!!

[@Tony-lp2nk]

Renewables are the future Sky! Just deal with it!

[@jasonhopkins7120]

My estimate ( version 10 ) of system energy costs from a cashflow analysis Calculated as if one company owned everything, except the existing grid. Compares higher risk of blackout, 16GW gas back-up, from AEMO plan, to 75GW gas, in 95% renewables plan Based on CSIRO Gencost Draft 24-25, AEMO Integrated System Plan 2024, LNP/Frontier Economics Reports, other sources for Pumped Hydro, US DOE for hydrogen tanks Parts replaced and refurbished over 60year period, batteries every 15years, solar and wind at 30years. Nuclear and gas refurbishment at 30years, cost 25% of cost new Systems that produce 24/365 every year with peak load following. (This could be made law) ROI = 8% pa, leveraged 95%debt, government owned could aim for less ROI, Interest 3% Gas 5% of the energy in renewables plans Grid supplying 340,000GWh/year in 2050 Renew plans, Solar Farm 42GW, Solar Roof 80GW, Wind 70GW, Battery 269GWh, Pumped Hydro 400GWh(4.2GW), Gas 16GW and 75GW Hydrogen gas 100% renewables system uses 32.2GW extra of onshore wind, has 18days of stored energy in hydrogen and is fully recharged in 12months. Hydrogen from nuclear is also considered Hydrogen electrolysis was 65% efficient and hydrogen electricity generation 32% efficient. At record efficencies nuclear hydrogen backed renew electricity is the similar cost at high emission natural gas backed renew. AEMO - Average wholesale electricity price 2021-2024 $/MWh -NSW $128.85 - QLD $127.33 - SA $104.78 - Tas $90.35 - VIC $83.44 I have an Applied Physics degree and MBA and worked in Solar PV R&D at ANSTO The table shows wholesale electricity $/MWh and annual wholesale electricity $/year System --------------------- $/MWh $/year % of GDP Emissions Blackout Risk AC wave problems Nuclear with battery-CSIRO-------- $82.17 $27,937,800,000 0.10% None Min None Nuclear with battery-LNP/Frontier $84.05 $28,577,000,000 0.10% None Min None Renew + gasCombined16GW+grid $109.32 $37,168,800,000 0.13% High High Maybe Renew + gasCCS16GW+grid-------- $115.51 $39,273,400,000 0.14% Low High Maybe Renew + gasNuclearH2-16GW+grid- $118.83 $40,402,200,000 0.14% None High Maybe Renew + gasCombined75GW+grid $125.84 $42,785,600,000 0.15% High Min Maybe Renew + gasWindH2-16GW+grid-- $132.16 $44,934,400,000 0.16% None High Maybe Renew + gasNuclearH2-75GW+grid- $138.30 $47,022,000,000 0.17% None Min Maybe Renew + gasCCS75GW+grid -------- $151.51 $51,513,400,000 0.18% Low Min Maybe Renew + gasWindH2-75GW+grid- $151.65 $51,561,000,000 0.18% None Min Maybe Australia would spend 0.05% of GDP ($14billion/year) to lower the risk of blackouts with renewables plans. Blackouts cost the Texas economy upward of US$130 billion in damages and losses in 2021 (vox.com) The lowest risk 95% renewables gasCCS plan and 100% renewables with hydrogen plan have more other environmental impacts than the 45% cheaper nuclear with batteries plan The backup gas, for season peaks and renewables droughts, capital cost, could be reduced by converting old coal plants to natural gas and/or hydrogen and gas turbines to hydrogen by changing combustion chambers. The difference between nuclear and the likely renewable equivalent is about $18billion/year. You could buy $2.8billion chocolate bars/year or 2 Tesla gigafactories/year, or 20 CSIRO's/year