Tactics Ogre Reborn: How to Win The Duel With Nothing

[@subversiveasset]

I was a ninja. I thought I would never be able to win the duel, until I realized - I was a ninja and I could jump to the top columns, have him just run back and forth, while I drop down, shoot, go back up to the column. Did it take a long time? Yes. But it was gloriously cheesy

[@demonicmachina]

This is the same exact thing I did 😂😂

[@Theswazzer]

Oh fuck sure

[@Burak_C]

Normal Fight version also has some really nice battle dialogue. I mean I cant deny Arycelle talking with his lover knight can I, Its been brewing since chapter 2. Or Donnalto roasting him. Honeslty these are highlights of Chapter 3 Chaos so... Duel option looks pretty unappealing. Fun Fact: Choosing duel or no changes ALL your units Loyalty. Duel is +5 Law - 5 Chaos, normal version is reverse. Commander uses an army of zombies of my comrades the entire game = No Loyalty change, I sleep My Commander decides to duel some asshole knight = Real shit, -5 loyalty

[@paranoumenon]

So Arycelle has dialogues with Leonar? Didn't remember seeing a single one.

[@Burak_C]

@@paranoumenon Yes. Two sets of dialogue + when leonar dies she always says arycelle's name. If arycelle was in the fight thanks to normal version she also weeps his name as he dies.

[@paranoumenon]

Thanks. It's good to know that some early recruits are still relevant to the story.

[@CoffeePotato]

You had a problem with that? Quick, learn to use this blowpipe....and now they're loyal forever 🤣

[@jacobcervantes8961]

Having never played the original I did this fight as a team because I wanted to see what donnallto and arycelle said and I was so proud of my man donnalto since he died got revived and then got the last 40 hp with the cudgel finisher

[@dandandandandandandan]

Damn I was just lucky leonar stepped on a debuff card so manage to beat him haha

[@CoffeePotato]

Hah, that's super lucky

[@user-ht3sq4fd9r]

I ran into this guy as a Rune Fencer. Assumed i'd be able to just beat him like Vyce. Obviously I died quickly and violently. Fought him a second time and easily kited him around with Lightning Bow and didn't take a hit.

[@CoffeePotato]

He seriously needs to watch that faulty wiring.

[@edenknight777entertainment5]

This is actually pretty funny lol. I used the ninja and kept him stunned. Also later went back since I did a separate save just to kick his ass again since he made me work for the win. I absolutely destroyed him as a terror knight.

[@EricN73158]

I loved this fight when it came up for my play through. I got the game about 2 weeks ago and when I got to here I was like "YES a 1v1!" I just kited him picked up cards and healed if I got low, was not at all hard for someone who just puts in a lil brain power . I wish I recorded it. My class was ninja so it help that I could out run him and I was a melee ninja so I just poked him to death.

[@CoffeePotato]

I should've shown this at the time, but it's funny how you can snap him in half with just a Brand of the Sacrifice.

[@12ntim]

I did the same thing, but I jumped on the ledge at the top of the map. He can't get up there but you can as a ninja.

[@Carlos-M]

I chose the second option, not realizing it would result in a regular fight. I thought it would've been a duel regardless like the Vyce chapter 2 battle. Then I saw I need to bring a team, I was like ok, whatever let's bring his old friends Donnalto and Arycelle and maybe it'd be funny if the latter would deliver the coup de grace (didn't quite manage it). Turns out they had some unique dialog in this fight so it didn't turn out to be a bad choice either.

[@1calv]

Honestly some of the best dialogue in the game.

[@CoconutRouter]

This fight just kind of worked out for me cuz I built Denem as a rune fencer with a heavy spear and lighting element lol

[@CoffeePotato]

Same, lightning horse cult and spikey sticks in one!

[@CoconutRouter]

@@CoffeePotato Robo Horse supremacy.

[@kylecarey4189]

Fight took me one load. After realizing 1v1 wasn't happening without hijinx, went boon of speed, heal, fire missile attack. Easy to kite

[@CoffeePotato]

@@kylecarey4189 Technically possible, but definitely takes some game knowledge to win this one head on. It's optional for a reason.

[@saliver5909]

I got this winged boots from one stage before this fight, then I put them on and flew to the highest tiles before the windows. I kept firing magic until he died. Have to fly around to land trajectory. Thought Denam's class was rune fencer (wizard might be even easier). Wouldn't even call this a strat... more like winged boots for the win

[@CoffeePotato]

Who wins? One stubborn boi Some flappy slippers

[@1calv]

I did this strat on the Law route version by accident. It's probably not nearly as reliable to set this up on that fight but still very possible.

[@Tarrot]

My strat first time through ended up being the same, except I had leveled up 1 handed Katana finishers, so I just walked around and spammed finishers at him till he went down.

[@rottenmeat5934]

For this and Vyce, I just kept them at range with a spear.

[@paranoumenon]

I remember I was stuck at Wiegraf/Velius fight, FFT PSX version, for almost a week. Didn't know about gamefaqs back then. So after levelling/trying a few classes without a single win, I changed all my main units into Monks, including my chemist and let AI played them. I thought Monks were fragile back then because of their bare sprites, so they were my last pick for that fight. But dang, Velius and his archdemons were completely annihilated. All the AI did was simply spamming wave fist after wave fist, and if the targets got too far, earth slashers. TO's Ninjas with move+ and jump+ are one-on-one combat specialists like Monks from FFT.

[@CoffeePotato]

Hey, at least you had a save to go back to. I was a one slot guy, so I just sat there spamming accumulate and tailwind until phase 2 turned into "some speed god hammer whacks some demon nerd 6 times and leaves without elaborating further"

[@Shadessmh]

"It's been a long time, Potato"

[@CoffeePotato]

Probably time to hit the store, then.

[@combatmagi1006]

I couldn't win this duel as an archer even with salves. I ended up switching to being a first time Ninja with double attack to outpace him and hit him with the first finisher once the double strikes rapidly unlocked it.

[@vagrant2863]

This was the fight I learned that Rending Gale hits roll accuracy separately. I managed to inflict him with False strike (Cutlass +1) and he only hit me with one hit on Rending Gale. Still died that time (since I didn't plan very well) but I reckon if you like gambling you could stack that with dodge and use Strengthen to kill him before he kills you. The way I killed him was a Rending Gale crit (had a crit card) after getting him with breached.

[@CoffeePotato]

That'll do it, multi crits go nutty.

[@smileandlaughs]

I just did this fight as a sword and bow rune fencer and it was incredibly easy. After he landed a hit on me it gave me two turns to outrun him. I used that to lure him into the lower part on the side of the map and used the leaden bow skill. He's basically trapped like a sitting duck while I rained death from above with bow and spell. I got 1 of each card, and it worked out well.

[@stephenellis4777]

Fire Snake works to, that is what I used because I chose fire for Denam's element, it does about the same damage as Chimera.

[@CoffeePotato]

Well yeah, it's whatever is on hand. Ninja stuff is fairly flat damage wise.

[@celes24]

I played this game on all versions from SNES to PSP to Switch and I challenged myself to beat Leonard without using a Ninja. I used a Terror Knight to beat him. At first I thought Frighten would work on him just to lower down his attack but it was not working, fortunately the 2nd finisher for the Hammer had Weaken status. It took me about 2 hours to reset the game until I got the right RNG to overpowered him. It takes about 3 finishers 400+ damage each to finish him.

[@CoffeePotato]

Dang, that took a hot minute. Funnily enough just did a video about that kzbin.info/www/bejne/poOqZqisicuZg6ssi=jxiC-LQiHZpMNUm8

[@GBMouth]

So I recently got to this fight, but since I was always preparing myself before each story battle, I just basically ran it as rune fencer (no element change, was ice) with a quick mp restore item and haste. The strategy with the magic helped, and took only one attempt

[@CoffeePotato]

Yeah, Fencer is always reliable. I wanted to show the worst of it can be done with unavoidable stuff.

[@Ricardofornari]

Here I used Dennan as a rune fencer and on fft Wiegraf, me and my brother ony got to the second part by using flare and one shooting him

[@veteranironoutdoors8320]

Id love to see this with every class if you could 😂 you know you wanna. Ive only done this fight once so far and I was a rune fencer. Didnt know what I was in for so my items were not ready. Took me 6 tries

[@jamaalgriffin4185]

Nice I did something similar for the vyce fight, good to see my strategy will work later in the game as well

[@gengar43]

I did with Ninja Denam with a 1H Dagger and 1H Bow. Just spam the Leadened Finisher (Dark Weight) and he won’t move at all. Got a couple of Phys up Cards and just destroyed him.

[@CoffeePotato]

That'll do it, Leaden is scary

[@MisterKisk]

This strategy makes me feel dirty.

[@CoffeePotato]

Dirty, but hey, it's his choice to just stand there menacingly 🤣

[@MisterKisk]

​@@CoffeePotato That's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of Reborn. I still like One Vision as the best version of the game.

[@Maroxad]

If you are lucky. You might get winged boots from a prior battle, at which point you can pelt him away with spells, using elevations against him. But that wont obviously work for a run like this.

[@CoffeePotato]

True, that's the Gildora courtyard units that drop them, iirc.

[@Maroxad]

@@CoffeePotato I got that on my run. Saw the boots, equipped them, turned out super handy in the battle to come. Can't hurt what you can't reach.

[@jks3190]

I have no idea why people have trouble with this fight. I had Denim as a rune fencer and sped myself up and just beat him with normal attacks from a spear. I would run away when he gets 2 turns in a row, but I got past the fight without getting hit at all without any buff cards.

[@jpacampara21]

is there no overleveling in this game? In the ps1 version i just overleveled

[@CoffeePotato]

Nope, they want you to play the game this time. If you're using Debuffs and Elemental Finishers, you'll do fine.

[@cheesedude-ygo]

I know Leonar is kind of a monster, but calling him nothing still seems a little harsh.

[@CoffeePotato]

I was meaning the fact that no stores were used, but I think You know that XD

[@cheesedude-ygo]

@@CoffeePotato Couldn't resist and was shocked no one else had said it, so yeah.

[@CoffeePotato]

@@cheesedude-ygo Understandable, carry on 👌

[@HoangNguyen-ii5cx]

My first play through was using ninja with double dagger to collect all the attack card and spam the finisher while he catching in pointless. Unfortunately, in reborn ninja late game kinda losing the damage outcome so in my second play through i just using fist berserker thanks for your advice 😂

[@CoffeePotato]

That can still work, it's worth switching to Overwhelm in the late game with that 250 Atk modifier.

[@ershiqijiudian7767]

fucking genius

[@Erdadler]

The PSP duel was very easy if you were boosted with status increased cards…no problem with every class…but that bosses always come with 4 booster cards is a little bit unfair…combined with higher level and better equipment.

[@CoffeePotato]

He'd be tough even without the cards, you could clown on him any number of ways in PSP. I had an Ironman No Shop No Grind run that could overpower him by just having a Baldur shorty.

[@achritushunter6950]

i also did that as valkyrie and quick spell

[@CoffeePotato]

That'll do it!

[@Theswazzer]

World tarot no problem yea right. That’s why in here

[@CoffeePotato]

What are you saying exactly?

[@Theswazzer]

@@CoffeePotato my bad It’s hard to understand I’m act 3 now chaos Beat game during lawful If ganp dies to I lose home in this play through

[@evandrorosa549]

heheheh lol nice very smart.

[@misulucas]

I duel him as a Wizard, with flying boots that can be droped before this fight, easy haha (Yes i always go for mages in RPGS)