Neville & Carragher clash over the problems of VAR in the Premier League 🍿

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Following the VAR decision in West Ham vs Aston Villa, Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville believe VAR has become too frustrating and is not achieving what it was designed to do.
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[@skysportspremierleague]

Here for the HEATED debate 🍿

[@mutd789hgmlkrt7]

lmfao

[@e115mastery]

Deserve a raise tbh

[@AlphaBeastHD]

lmaoooo poking fun at themselves

[@MechaMeister]

*CLASH OVER* 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

[@Nobody-pv2ml]

Pin this

[@am2382]

Everybody loves making heated debate jokes, but this right here is the definition of that lmao.

[@iainnicholls8537]

Football is dead

[@sherKhan-qq7cy]

@@iainnicholls8537 y u on a football vid then

[@Dylan-ek5fy]

I think Sky Sports is trolling us. This deserved an even more dramatic headline 😂

[@G17x]

Yup

[@olegvartanov5906]

Then everything with Carra is heated) He is always that emotional.

[@StreetSoccerInt]

VAR as technology is fine and was much called for. But the problems is who's implementing VAR and the massive inconsistencies that we see in decisions week in week out.

[@slayDice]

Exactly

[@DaManIsEreYH]

You can't even celebrate a goal in moment fully anymore. It's a joke.

[@markkelly9621]

It frustrates me when people make that argument as the officials are an integral part of the VAR process. If the officials were really good then perhaps nobody would have called for VAR in the first place. VAR simply exposes how bad the officials really are.

[@marjansarec2337]

@@brandonayong5823 either it's VAR always, or NEver, cause otherwise only teams like Real Madrid, PSG will have something to gain

[@sherwindai1259]

@@marjansarec2337 spot on. The problem is consistency. It seems that VAR is created to make decisions more consistent. However, due to human refs, there's a lack of consistency of when to use it, which in the end doesn't make the game more fair.

[@abzgh3815]

Gary Neville: "It will always be an inch. It will always be an inch." Oh dear Gary.

[@baller-fk5ng]

That’s what Gazzas wife told him on their wedding night

[@muzammil6651]

That's what she said

[@sheaz7553]

Button mushroom

[@githin23]

Lmao

[@dylancorcoran8801]

He actually has a great point by that

[@TrainVideosOnline]

‘Heated argument’

[@josemourinho5254]

Yes. Arteta in.

[@audiobookschill5888]

Carragher could start a heated argument with a mirror

[@brandonayong5823]

"I just don't understand this decision. Just doesn't make sense to me. I've been in football for a long time and that has never been the way" Tell me you didn't read that in a Jamie voice 😂😂

[@HMM9817]

@@audiobookschill5888 Neville could start an argument with The Sun

[@henben9215]

@@HMM9817 they're both passionate about football, it's a shame you're not passionate about getting a job

[@durutticolumn6002]

Nobody: Carra: I heeeeyyrd it

[@ColmK83]

THHHHEEEEEERRE

[@jaytaylor6346]

🤣🤣

[@craigmoore2557]

Neville saying "SORRY!" as Carra tries to interupt at 5:27 is absolutely majestic.

[@ggates2500]

He's politely saying to buzz off for a sec ))

[@ColmK83]

Haha shuts him up

[@qammarshah8724]

😂😂😂😂

[@obaidqadri4181]

Jamie and Neville saying the same thing but in different words and fighting about it is exactly the same reason I love both of them.

[@sanjognepal2998]

Nobody: Sky Sports: 🍿

[@josemourinho5254]

Please remember to contact your local Man Utd Rep- they can discuss financing options on a VAR Official Decisions Package - as seen on TV and reccomended by PEnandes. sanks

[@DopamineMVWM]

They’ve leaned into it, I think that’s good of them

[@ronnylee1520]

@@aubereitema2872 🍌

[@sanjognepal2998]

5:04 peak jamie carragher right here

[@steviep623]

Keyword search: clash,heated Result: sky sports

[@WilliamWallace42]

@@steviep623 why would you copy and paste a comment that isn't even funny

[@jahedur123456]

9:10 Carragher delivers SAVAGE insult towards Neville in HEATED CLASH

[@yinyang8259]

Neville just conceded. There was no coming back from that🤣

[@raihanurrahman503]

this was actually a "HEATED debate" surprised they didnt put it on the title

[@kwl189]

@@EMAH669 took em long enough

[@christopher1474]

they switched it for the popcorn icon

[@mrsing8880]

Heated replaced by Clash due to a complaint from Karen.

[@cviasco8571]

Everyone moaning about the word “heated” are a Karen 😂😂😂

[@blaze5688]

They need to change the offside rule to feet, all the other stuff is stupid, it would still be inches but Id say people would be happier

[@JB-kc3zr]

Say it louder for the people in the back 🗣️💯😤

[@keithfanning2387]

I think, especially with the speed at which football is played at at the top level these days, if you have one foot onside, you're onside. At minimum you shouldn't be given offside for a body part that you can't even legally score with like you said but one foot onside, you're onside, I think it would be a lot less controversial aswell, English refs are terrible and always have been.

[@conorkearns7605]

Agreed

[@conor9436]

Changing to feet doesn't change the fact that people would be debating over drawn lines and a matter of millimetres. Just get rid of the lines altogether. Yes, review the clip but use human sight to determine whether its offside or not. If you can't tell from looking at it, then stick with the ref's decision. Simple.

[@M-E_123]

Go back to the idea on which VAR was sold in the first place - correct clear and obvious errors only. As soon as you need to draw a line to work out whether the linesman got it right just let his decision stand (not that linesmen are even allowed to call offside at the minute - which seems like a massive waste of time them even being at the match to me).

[@jahedur123456]

0:09 carragher tribute to Maradona 😭🙏🙌

[@krick_mufc9291]

Noice

[@hubbelizer8412]

Wish I could like this comment twice

[@Alexander0189]

🤣🤣🤣

[@user-cm9sf7vs5h]

Hahaha

[@laurenball2950]

Your profile picture 😂😂😂

[@Daddyfish53]

"When you do the lines, you do the lines" amen jamie

[@joebloggs416]

He got that from Robbie Fowler

[@brabbit3389]

@@joebloggs416 and Danny Murphy- those Liverpool players eh

[@Steveypoos]

Goal line technology was the only thing most fans wanted, not 'his todger was slightly offside'.

[@ctheripper9630]

His right bollock just made him offside. Clear advantage. By a ball hair. Advantage.

[@marjansarec2337]

noone wanted goal line technology, cause it almost NEVER happens that a goal is not visible

[@FlushyTheDrummer]

@@marjansarec2337 Liverpool VS Chelsea champions league semi-final 2005 would beg to differ

[@cameronheaton5351]

@@marjansarec2337 England Vs Germany 2010?

[@ikhwanelias9997]

i want offside var

[@jawaharramis3750]

Keyword search: clash,heated Result: sky sports

[@cartooncartel6493]

Facts. I just checked and its a sky sports video

[@qaisar-mw6oq]

@@cartooncartel6493 lol

[@thefullenergychannel2879]

THEY FORM PART OF CLICKBAIT FC

[@samfentem284]

Gary’s wife: ‘will it ever grow?’ Gary: ‘it will always be an inch!’

[@ColmK83]

😂

[@cameronheaton5351]

For the offside rule, we aren't even talking inches. We're pretty much talking 1 millimetre. It was seen from the Brighton v Liverpool game on Saturday with Salah. You couldn't even see where exactly he was offside

[@mart4414]

''When you do the lines you do the lines'' I call that meme.

[@satriaeerlangga]

robbie Fowler approve

[@joenew3456]

Maradona would be proud

@@satriaeerlangga That was my first thought, then I raised it to Diego

[@thew5262]

I think the rules are more of an issue than VAR itself

[@ronitbica4842]

I concur

[@Rizwaan122]

If the guys at stockley Park have to look at an incident more than 10 seconds, its probably not a massive error cuz then it would be instantly obvious, so just stick with the ref's decision

[@Sheepwillbesheep]

They should have one person looking for any previous fouls before incident & the other looking at handball & they offside...plus offside should be leading foot only & handball only if it’s intentional

[@ellorco991]

What if the ref gets it wrong and it costs a team 3 points, then we would complain what’s the point of the technology

[@Rizwaan122]

@@ellorco991 would u rather get the wrong decision and waste 10 seconds or have to wait 5 mins to still get a wrong decision? U really wanna sit there and watch the var officials pull out the wonky lines to determine someone's nipple was offside?

[@ellorco991]

@@Rizwaan122 system work’s perfectly fine for rugby, just takes getting used to, people know what to expect and the sport keeps on growing, football should pause the clock for this and other stoppages, would have the added effect of getting rid of diving and rolling around on the floor to waste time. Once they establish clear rules regarding contact, body parts offside, improving the lines etc, it will get better, as Gary says in athletics or swimming it isn’t up to debate who crosses the line first it’s a matter of fact

[@rushpan93]

Or better yet, give the attacker the benefit of doubt coz a case where linesman thinks it's offside but var doesn't creates the same problems

[@huwjones2117]

Take a lead from Rugby Union refs. "Is there any reason why I can't give a goal"? The ref is in charge and uses VAR if he feels the need for clarification. Football/footballers have no respect for refs.

[@namesurname2958]

Actually, i think this is the problem. It simply doesnt work for football. Any reson why i cant give a goal? This is when the refs look for reasons not to let a goal stand. It simply doesnt work for football.

[@lsmedal]

Jamie and Gary sound like a married couple trying to argue while their child is asleep.

[@owenwilson8822]

The only place where two pundits agree but still have an argument - thats how much Sky is in their ear about getting HEATED!

[@imamoronand9199]

Let’s all take a minute to appreciate moderator guy. He talks just the right amount, never gives his opinion, and has a laugh here and there. It would be so easy for him to overstep and be annoying, but he’s never does, and he makes everyone else’s punditry better.

[@brayansamuel2520]

"i bet he was the milk monitor at school" 😂

[@Luke-kj1rj]

Var has a negative impact on nearly every game I watch

[@andyd6338]

And some positives, like recent pens being correctly overturned

[@Martin-88]

It's sucked all of the enjoyment out of the game.

[@jam4227]

@@Martin-88 it's all on whether you want to stick with it and hope it develops to becoming more efficient or completely cancel it in England and risk potentially more controversial refereeing decisions

[@Martin-88]

@@jam4227 Nothing we've seen before VAR was as controversial as some of the VAR decisions.

[@Thomasianwood]

How can the offside line be called by the shirt sleeve when that point of contact with the ball is handball?

[@davidchandra8722]

Actually they changed the handball rule that arm before sleeve is not a handball. Its such a mess i know

[@asethiumoneclick1854]

''When you do the lines you do the lines'' I call that meme.

[@rybly]

Neville is spot on - rules need clarification, the problem is not VAR itself

[@elliotpark7147]

The problem is the implementation and the effect that has on the enjoyment and atmosphere of the game.

[@xMikeyHardyx]

@@IsSalty Rugby do an awful job. I have loads of mates who used to love going the game and they’d always moan about video ref killing the momentum and enjoyment.

[@alfieconnolly977]

@@IsSalty not a great comparison as football is a more free flowing sport naturally

[@xMikeyHardyx]

@@IsSalty It’s not about the armchair supporters at home, it’s about killing the atmosphere in grounds, is it not?

[@xMikeyHardyx]

@@IsSalty You’re obviously the armchair lad 🤣 got much insight into rugby (which btw rugby is a dead sport) I beg you go football games and see what VAR does and then go back to rugby and realise they’re the same. They both kill the sport they’re in.

[@californiaplant-basedeater2761]

Carragher: "We almost won the league that year." Neville: "But you didn't." Sums up this show every week.

[@AhmedHassan-rc4zx]

I think if they remove the stupid offside calls and make clear the handball rule ....VAR will be success

[@CalSaurous]

Just get rid of it. Football was MUCH better before.

[@adamisAswsomeish]

@@CalSaurous No it wasn't, it's exactly the same. It used to be every week there would be a big uproar about a doggy decision the ref or linesmen made now there's one every week about a doggy decision VAR has made. Don't forget about all the people calling for VAR to be implanted because of all the bad decisions the refs were making. It's the same problems coming from a different source.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

The handball decisions are far worse than the offsides, which there's nothing wrong with.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

@@adamisAswsomeish It isn't a problem, it's just the idiotic culture of football.

[@rizgarbedir]

@@CalSaurous it could’ve been better but there were teams getting relegated because of a bad decision and then going bankrupt after which is the problem

[@evancritchley3697]

They are going to the screen just for show. None of the referees have a backbone and that combined with VAR and Stockley park is a horrribleee combination.

[@andyd6338]

For show? They often overturn their choice or stuck with it, which is a good thing

[@ghost-trains]

A few weeks ago Frank Lampard said about VAR "we didn't get the luck today but that will even itself out later" Which is exactly what happened before VAR with the referee mistakes! I would much rather lose a game through an honest referee mistake, than these ridiculous fine margins

[@ComradeOgilvy1984]

Gary is right, it was always about ridiculous fine margins. The ARs did their best, and almost always got it right within 5 cm, but at the finer margins they were simply guessing one way or another. What has changed with VAR is the emotional journey around offsides is the worse. We were used to suffering occasional injustices about the flag going up or not, but once the decision was made there was no appealing and the game immediately went on from there, one way or another. As a Liverpool fan, I actually have no problem with the call on Salah. But fans who say the game is less enjoyable for them are making an important point.

[@jackcomerford2640]

“When you do the lines you do the lines”😂😂

[@ethandraper4645]

The rules need changing. A player's toenail being in front of the defensive line isn't gaining an advantage.

[@Sheepwillbesheep]

100%...it should be from the leading foot only simple as that

[@Sheepwillbesheep]

@@pete1208 agree 100000000% I’ve been shouting for this since last season

[@honeyglazedgammon2318]

@@Sheepwillbesheep Still going to be arguing over the millimetres of how much his foot was over or not.

[@coop27]

9:35 "in the entry!"

[@TheJonSadler1]

“I bet he was the milk monitor at school”

[@seevanb1233]

Scrolling through the comments seeing if anyone quoted him

[@dirtyplayer666]

One time where debate is actually heated there is nothing in the title 😂

[@GurpreetSingh-zp8fz]

I don't even feel like watching football anymore tbh.

[@LookatIanPnow]

Is the popcorn emoji the new HEATED now? 🍿

[@gosiameolyn1319]

The high pitch voiced debates between this two is killin me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheSkyOnFire]

Gotta agree with Gary, bang on with everything.

[@Isleofskye]

For 58 years since I first went I "thought," I enjoyed the mass joyous celebrations once The Match Officials awarded a vital goal but just like in "1984" I realize that my unseen MASTERS are THe Truth and I must conform and wait 4 minutes to be told by a Computer Screen whether I can celebrate or forensically the goal is ruled out by the slenderest of margins. What a fool I have been thinking the (once) Beautiful Game is in THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS.......let the Bots take over. It's PROGRESS INNIT! INNIT?

[@aspectratio6580]

Best decision sky has ever made having these two debate everything. "Bet you were the milk monitor at school" classic.

[@L.Drizzle]

The problem with this debate which I haven't yet seen articulated properly by broadcasters is this: the FA have made a mistake by introducing technology AND rule changes at the same time. Because of this, people are struggling to realise if they are upset with VAR or if they are upset with the rule itself. Gary is bang on - decisions made by VAR will always be on very, very fine margins, regardless of the rule, because those instances are exactly what it is there to do. If it's a clear decision, referees can and always have made the right call (overwhelming majority of the time). When you see an offside given because someone's finger is offside, ask yourself: am I annoyed because VAR caught that, or am I annoyed because the rule currently dictates that someone's finger can mean they are offside? Currently, VAR is getting the decision right - the real question is if we want that to be the correct decision.

[@JC-qw4mu]

'when you do the lines, you do the lines' Never a truer word spoken Jamie lad.

[@whoknew2273]

Have a drink everytime Carra says "errr" you be wrecked by the end of this HAHAHAHA

[@sundoglemon6273]

Subtitles please.

[@pauljansen1137]

VAR has become way too important...too many people having a say about decisions that should be made by just the referee...

[@sriramg5334]

idk if it was true or not but on twitter I saw a post describing how the Dutch league uses VAR for offsides. They use the same blue and red lines as the prem and each line is 5 cm wide I think, but if they two lines are touching then the call will not be overturned. I quite like that rule because it will prevent the stupid calls being overturned where even if you look at the image for 5 minutes you can't see how the player has been ruled offsides

[@csbarathi]

If it's always going to be about an inch, then which frame do you pick in the whole foot meets the ball situation to determine whether he's offside or not?

[@tomcalder6305]

Heated debate

[@UncledadBFD]

Beat me to it

[@crispycrasta1998]

Umpires call is a thing that should be introduced like it is in cricket!

[@liamhackston2507]

Even though I do agree with you, it is important to remember that cricket is a bit easier given that the rules are more black and white than they are in football.

[@crispycrasta1998]

But I feel in situations of offside where it's marginal the referees authority should be given some sort of priority

[@liamhackston2507]

@@crispycrasta1998 yeah I get that and I do agree completely, it's just a little harder in football.

[@crispycrasta1998]

Obviously it can be tweaked to fit in with football...but doesn't even look like it's being considered as an option with so much talk about revamping the system

[@liamhackston2507]

@@crispycrasta1998 Ok so I've done a little research and found that they do something similar in the Dutch league. Don't know how its working out but my concern is now null. Forgive me for this unreasonable hassle.

[@shahbazzubair7557]

The 🔥 “HEATED” 🔥part is from 4:42-5:14 🤣

[@azolanjolwana3914]

It seems like "clash" has replaced "HEATED" 😂😂😂

[@zacknorris7863]

I've been saying this since last year the players can't control their arms whilst making a run they can control their feet and position themselves onside

[@GOATBryan10]

Gary is spot on, the technology is NOT the problem. It is application of it & the rules that has been set that are the problems. 👍

[@mr.nav2226]

👍

[@ron1696]

I can feel the heat

[@Chillybean]

Its like among us not letting him speak 🤣

[@Invinciblez18]

Take a shot every time you see 'heated' in the comments

[@ColmK83]

I'll keep my liver thank you

[@dopeypatronus6645]

For once Gary Neville and I shared the same thought on VAR. Not sure it that's a good thing

[@muzakiryounis8893]

The heated popcorn was very tasty when I watched this

[@liamclarke8059]

These 2 being added to sky was an amazing decision

[@DYL2020]

Football has always been an exciting special beautiful game, I’d rather have the wrong decision given than have to wait for VAR.. (once upon a time this was normal btw!) football now is not the game I fell in love with, it was at its peak of the 90s in my opinion and I wasn’t even born then but it just got taken over by money

[@ashwilcockson5055]

9:06 when a lass tells you to go deeper!

[@danieljamesmead]

Thats cleared that up.

[@ErwinMeister8]

That Bamford Offside v Crystal Palace with the hand sticking out was ridiculous

[@stephenoclarke8703]

So simple, was Ollie Watkins a clear and obvious error missed by the lineman? No, goal stands.

[@jonathant4201]

I didn’t mind the human error. It was apart of the flawed game that we all love/loved. Why does everything need to be perfect or ‘updated’. Simulacrum complete.

[@ashwilliams4959]

Because nowadays a mistake is costing millions

[@jonathant4201]

@@ashwilliams4959 it’s all relative though. All prem clubs have wealth in abundance. The stakes aren’t higher just all relative to the overall wealth of the game.

[@ashminrai7481]

.Stake was high,is high and will always be high.Just bcoz u are wealthy club doesn't mean u dont care about money or wont be affected if u lose money.What about the fans,the people working in the club.Not everything is about money but we have to understand that 1 mistake or flaw could be the reason a club wins a league or not,will be relegated or not,will play in Europe or not.Its not always about money.

[@ashwilliams4959]

@@ashminrai7481 for the owners it's only about money to them it's a business and when your spending millions a week on wages and are losing out on Europe spots, finals, relegation, it's not just an on pitch decision being affected you could be losing an entire franchise. Look at pompey, Bolton, Blackburn, Boro, Charlton, all ex prem teams that disappeared because of relegation

[@jonathant4201]

@@ashminrai7481 That was always the case though. My point is that clubs can survive now with the wealth. Yes relegation will cost but it’s relative. Wrong decisions have always had an effect and that’s just how it is. Rich or not rich. Ultimately the best team wins the league and the worst go down. It’s flawed and great because of that. It was an accessible sport because of it (unlike Cricket, Tennis etc that are too singular and close off to the masses).

[@BobbyDB]

Not “HEATEDDDD”??

[@PirateZ1]

These guys have top class conversations.

[@TheFourFats]

Nobody: Gary: ...DAVE!

[@ClipseOnIncognito]

Offside is offside, id rather have this then what we had before VAR where someone would score a mile offside and nothing happen

[@RubyRose-tu1px]

So you like VAR and how it’s used?

[@manvirmangat695]

There’s been more controversial offside decisions since VAR then the 200 years before VAR

[@ClipseOnIncognito]

@@RubyRose-tu1px i would change some things but doesn’t have to do with VAR it’d other rules. Var works in so many other countries but ours, that’s not because of the system it’s because of the people behind it. The handball rule is dumb but again i don’t care if a players is offside by an inch or a cm offside is offside. If the player is offside then it means they had an unfair advantage

[@ClipseOnIncognito]

@@manvirmangat695 they aren’t controversial each on is offside. It’s just people don’t like how tight it can be but again if a player is offside they are offside doesn’t matter by how much

[@RubyRose-tu1px]

It is better used in different leagues which is proof it can work but they’re over analysing every offside and to say offside is offside is stupid, if 2 players feet are in the same position but the attackers hand or armpit is ahead that shouldn’t be offside. Needs changing clearly

[@geebswainwright]

It’s always going to be an inch for offsides moving the ‘goalposts’ won’t change how fine it is

[@azza1793]

People will always have differing opinions and it’s good to hear both sides

[@zarakhan-zx3xy]

Any debate is heated in the eyes of Sky Sports.

[@Ahmedinho10]

I got my 🍿out when I saw the title of the video then I realised that there are no subtitles for Jamie so there's no point...

[@teiloturner3889]

Really? Lol

[@shomgerry]

I love Gary and Jamie debates. Lads know their football

[@arthikkalyanpur2010]

Sky sports get them in the studio every weekend abeg...it's just fun to watch

[@TheOnlyIncognito]

0:09 Sky Sports best get rid of Carragher after admitting to his drug abuse

[@Jonathan-yd8ud]

VAR needs binning. As soon as crowds are allowed back i won't be attending games until it's gone.

[@johneefizterbottom]

Gary talks to Jamie like he was Phil 😂😂

[@davidredgrift6253]

With the handball rule, what if players want to wear long sleeves

[@ebrahimshaik9854]

love how jamie keeps bringing up the pickford moment at every chance .

[@ColmK83]

Liverpool fans : 😭😭😭😭😭🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼

[@joshs210]

The offside rules need changing, that’s the main concern for me

[@_MJS_]

I'm surprise Sky sport did not use there favourite word "HEATED" in the title of the video

[@vssjim4311]

😂😂😂 Carrager "I bet he was the milk monitor in school" 😂😂😂

[@charliepeters7122]

I don’t know anyone that is for var, so many fans/pundits/players and even refs have slated it yet we’re still persisting with it. Strange,

[@Professionallypessimistic]

The only time they could legislate for using “heated”

[@justinloh]

Gary Neville's smirk at the start

[@Amexc]

Wow! HEATED 🔥🔥

[@compballrsa]

why dont the PL put explayers in charge of VAR already, i mean even my nonfootball fan girlfriend could see the hands of Ogbona all over Watkins from outside to inside the box🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@cameronohare4000]

Players have prejudice to their own players

[@mohamed.maher.]

"HEATED Debate"

[@christolongers]

The biggest problem is its inconsistency ,Bamford was caught offside for pointing where he wants the ball and was classed as offside then a game a week or so later the same thing happened and the player was onside 🤔 Bamford against Everton actually started pointing in the wrong direction in code for the right direction so his arm is not offsidr and keeping his other flat to his body as he runs . Its ridiculous. Inconsistency and stupid rules with it are the problem.

[@danielalleyne9149]

This was a great debate

[@mitchrapp5214]

Never wanted VAR in the first place as controversy is part of what makes football great. It has taken the soul out of football. To make it worse they don't even get all the decisions right.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Football fans really are idiots aren't they. WHY CANT WE HAVE MORE BLATANTLY WRONG DECISIONS WAH

[@razer0072073]

Who here wants VAR scrapped? 🤔

[@AznS0ulja]

Not scrapped, but the way offsides are being treated. It's gone far too trivial.

[@jacks2538]

Doesn't need to be scrapped, in theory it's a good idea, what needs changing is the people behind the screens

[@Deffa7]

The one time perhaps they could have used the word heated they get it wrong 😄

[@salmanrahman1656]

Love these debates