Sl-Ur Dragon vs Locust God vs WINota vs Pools Closed | Mulligan's Episode 3 | MTG Commander Gameplay

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Wubby Magic Monday

Wubby Magic Monday

Күн бұрын

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@PaymoneyWubby
@PaymoneyWubby 8 ай бұрын
Moment of silence for the infinite combo just sitting on my fucking board. We always miss something on these videos but continuing to learn and play is what makes commander so fun for us. Also I count this episode as a win now thanks.
@pyroshadow33
@pyroshadow33 8 ай бұрын
cant buy skill at the game Wubby to compliment those expensive lands (i'm completely joking please dont hurt me)
@griffnuts
@griffnuts 8 ай бұрын
The salt from Booty if you had managed to pull that off would have seasoned the entire world 10 times over. Damn that would have been a fun watch.
@dahbagels
@dahbagels 8 ай бұрын
Infinite mana and draw your whole deck with your commander, mana vault, training grounds and orrery? Nah that’s too blue of you. Also you could’ve gotten cyclonic rift instead of drain (assuming you run it) and that would’ve been a way safer play against hordes of humans and dragons. Still thanks for showing off urza at home!
@Fattoxthegreat
@Fattoxthegreat 8 ай бұрын
Was that the "thing" you were aiming for?
@Leeofland
@Leeofland 8 ай бұрын
But how untap commander? Yeah Dramatic reversal works for one untap, but how can he loop it?
@woebegone_kenobi
@woebegone_kenobi 8 ай бұрын
Also just want to say, don't feel pressured to have guests outside of the boys. Of course we'd love to see other people on here too, but y'alls casual friendship chemistry is such a good vibe.
@julianlee5743
@julianlee5743 8 ай бұрын
+1
@tinuzz88
@tinuzz88 8 ай бұрын
Tectone seems perfect for this.
@aidanbagshaw3411
@aidanbagshaw3411 8 ай бұрын
for those of you who care, Carlos and Peanut are correct when they say that creatures with "when this creatuer attacks" abilities do not trigger when they are put into play already attacking. abilities with that wording only trigger upon being declared as an attacker at the start of combat, so creatures put into play already in the state of attacking never got declared as an attacker and do not trigger "when this creature attacks" abilities. This comes up a lot in winota, but also other commanders that put creatures into play already attacking, such as kaalia the vast. This does not make cards that interact this way "bad" per-say, but they do need to wait a turn after they winota puts them into play before their abilities take effect.
@Scrut89
@Scrut89 8 ай бұрын
Booty also missed an extra token off Alena coming in.
@e6staffsargeify
@e6staffsargeify 8 ай бұрын
I was aware of the fact that tapped and attacking didn't trigger when this attacks stuff. But I didnt know why. Thanks much
@ghosty-fr2sj
@ghosty-fr2sj 8 ай бұрын
Yup as a winota main I was gonna make your message
@J-Sade
@J-Sade 8 ай бұрын
As an Isshin Player I have learned this lesson the hard way
@pyroshadow33
@pyroshadow33 8 ай бұрын
yea i noticed a lot of the humans booty chose for the deck were a bit strange or low powered and i assume it was because of this misunderstanding in deck building. needed more anthems/stax effects
@derekkey2803
@derekkey2803 8 ай бұрын
On Wubby's turn that starts at 23:37, he could have made infinite mana and drawn his whole deck. Because of Chromatic Orrery, he could use colorless mana to activate Drafna and training grounds reduced the activation cost by 1 making it a single blue. Mana vault costs 1 but produces 3. One mana to bounce Mana Vault, 1 mana to cast it, add 3 mana, loop for infinite mana. Once he has infinite mana, he can bounce chromatic orrery to his hand, recast it, then use its ability to draw a card, bounce it and do it again. I would hope he could win with his whole deck in his hand with infinite mana.
@Jagsacdc
@Jagsacdc 8 ай бұрын
this^ lots of very new players in the pod, ive never watched wubby play magic but i thought he was a lot more experienced for some reason
@cre8rzaw
@cre8rzaw 8 ай бұрын
@@Jagsacdc He also cast brainstorm on his main phase at the beginning of the game while having no open mana. Also a fairly noobie play. At the very least, keeping up the mana gives your opponents pause.
@MrCrimAngel
@MrCrimAngel 8 ай бұрын
This is exactly what i was thinking LUL
@sethadelman8
@sethadelman8 8 ай бұрын
wouldnt call it a noob play due to it being turn 2 and him clearly not running many counters. yea he gave more info to the opponents but ion think based on his deck that the cards he put away would change no matter how others turns went
@frosty980
@frosty980 8 ай бұрын
@@cre8rzawthat and brainstorm without a way to shuffle is really ill advised
@dahbagels
@dahbagels 8 ай бұрын
I love how the monarch just disappeared after it came in. Great game and props to booty trying to keep up with the million triggers as a newbie.
@weirdkd54
@weirdkd54 7 ай бұрын
I always forget about the monarch. I had to buy a plastic crown for my group just so we could remember.
@DazsdWTP
@DazsdWTP 7 ай бұрын
​@@weirdkd54my pod is pretty used to it now as we house rule first combat damage done gets monarch to help speed up games as some of us are quite busy so don't get to play alot
@TinaFelcher
@TinaFelcher 8 ай бұрын
I have no clue what is happening but I love every friggin minute of these commander videos
@Justin-lg1qb
@Justin-lg1qb 8 ай бұрын
Same
@Blaine970
@Blaine970 8 ай бұрын
same, i kinda wish they did a little tutorial. i watch anyway though lol
@crocadillius6418
@crocadillius6418 8 ай бұрын
Same
@crocadillius6418
@crocadillius6418 8 ай бұрын
@@Blaine970I think some of the fun is not knowing what the fuck is happening
@Affirmingtree
@Affirmingtree 7 ай бұрын
@@Blaine970 What do you struggle to understand? It's not an easy game, but I can try to answer some questions if you want!
@markbradshaw3066
@markbradshaw3066 8 ай бұрын
Its so funny hearing Wubby call The Ur-Dragon cEDH when he is sitting next to Winota
@emanresu123p
@emanresu123p 8 ай бұрын
On Booty’s turn at 31:12 he should have only drawn two cards at his draw step since Carlos swung with the creature copies of Howling mine. Fun interaction with the effect that allows him to get the four cards at draw step, while everyone else gets 2 if he can keep them alive after attacking.
@DrToffee
@DrToffee 8 ай бұрын
I was so hyped to see Peanut playing one of my favorite commanders (in the same art too) and I was getting ready to take notes...guess I'll have to just check the deck list
@DaFreeq
@DaFreeq 8 ай бұрын
love the editing on these videos. makes it so much easier to understand what's happening. very much looking forward to more!
@amazinghayes1
@amazinghayes1 8 ай бұрын
The title of Wubby's deck has me so excited and curious for the morning when I get to watch this with my cheerios
@tommyzoid4691
@tommyzoid4691 8 ай бұрын
These videos just bring so much joy... They're so fun to watch, so fun to see y'all enjoying the game and having fun, and just watching the boys get to have a good time. Seeing all the fun deck builds and interactions you put together is also a lot of fun
@spitefulghost1919
@spitefulghost1919 8 ай бұрын
The intro goes so hard
@Urager
@Urager 8 ай бұрын
i love the edits honestly, its not excessive, just a few fun pictures are all it takes, very cool mr editor
@storeblaa
@storeblaa 8 ай бұрын
"I do not have a way to win on my turn" Sitting with infinite mana and card draw on board, but thats life of commander haha love the video and that one of my fave creators is into my favourite hobby! Hope this continues to blossom and maybe we one day see other formats as well
@yawnnydepp9714
@yawnnydepp9714 7 ай бұрын
So stoked to see this commander series since I'm a big fan of everyone here and have been playing for 12 years. Hope it keeps going
@derekkey2803
@derekkey2803 8 ай бұрын
o7 my guys. Love the magic content and all the content in general. As a long term magic nerd, happy to add more channels to the ones I get excited to see upload notifications for
@housemana
@housemana 4 ай бұрын
as someone who has been a student of the Lore for going on over a decade and has not much of any idea how the mechanical game goes.. i jus wanna give thanks and encouragement for how yall open up the games. like reading a little more than some other channels thats almost at time seem insulted if everything isn't done at brevity. it is appreciated and the chemistry, banter etc. make it real special 🖤 ty
@CobraSmokehouse
@CobraSmokehouse 8 ай бұрын
This is a lot of fun to watch,yall 4 are hilarious and Mr.Editor had some great bits as well!
@shaunbeckett9475
@shaunbeckett9475 7 ай бұрын
Peanut holding up an island at carlos You DO NOT KNOW how many times that trick has got me out of a sticky situation 😂😂😂 creaseing
@oneupper666
@oneupper666 8 ай бұрын
MOAR. Can never be too much Magic. Keep it coming Wubby!
@Fattoxthegreat
@Fattoxthegreat 8 ай бұрын
Request for Wubby to play his most "Fuck you, I have money and you don't, ultra omega powerful" deck in one of these episodes. I'm sure he eventually would, just a suggestion.
@SebHoare
@SebHoare 8 ай бұрын
What a wonderful start to my Thursday!!!!!
@GarfieldGarson
@GarfieldGarson 8 ай бұрын
*Wednesday
@tooclosetokyle
@tooclosetokyle 8 ай бұрын
@@GarfieldGarsontime zones my guy
@SebHoare
@SebHoare 8 ай бұрын
@@tooclosetokyle Can't expect a cat that loves lasagna to understand time zones hahaha
@Jaskaran158
@Jaskaran158 8 ай бұрын
I found the different heights of the decks to be quite entertaining this episode. My bet is on the tallest tower since big = baddest
@blainexx5163
@blainexx5163 8 ай бұрын
Gonna watch this while sleeving new cards 😎
@woebegone_kenobi
@woebegone_kenobi 8 ай бұрын
Bummer how many comments are about these guys being bad at magic. For them admittedly being fairly new to magic in the grand scheme of things, they're all just fine. They're not absolute champion veterans like some of the other popular channels, theyre fans of the game. A total blast to watch regardless and I'll show up and enjoy every upload.
@weezyhacker1
@weezyhacker1 8 ай бұрын
Since the Howling Mine copies were tapped from when Carlos attacked Booty shouldn't have drawn off them. It's one of those old cards that turn off when they're tapped (for Voltaic Key shenanigans and such).
@benmonkey69
@benmonkey69 8 ай бұрын
Thinking the same thing, surprised i didn’t see anyone mentioning this
@catscratch_balisong
@catscratch_balisong 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm starting to play Magic and I just bought the winning deck to play against my buddy! Thank you Booty!
@VantaCube
@VantaCube 7 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the outcome of this episode. I was expecting Winota to be out early but was pleasantly surprised.
@woebegone_kenobi
@woebegone_kenobi 8 ай бұрын
Hands down, favorite intro out of these live plays
@TheHandsInc
@TheHandsInc 5 ай бұрын
Booty forgot to make the rebels for otharri! (Also him bringing out that card made me so happy)
@dogleghobag
@dogleghobag 8 ай бұрын
I have no idea how this game works but I do like watching 4 handsome fellas hanging out
@connorm7815
@connorm7815 8 ай бұрын
you draw 7 cards and if your hand is bad you can shuffle it away and get a new one. each turn you can play a land, lands turn sideways(tap) pay for spells, most games are won by creature spells, they turn sideways(tapped) from attacking, creatures attack a player directly, that player can choose to block with their own creatures, tapped creatures can't block, all your tapped things untap at the start of your turn and draw a card that's a basic run down, then there are spells that effect the game and cards that stay on the field and effect the game
@connorm7815
@connorm7815 8 ай бұрын
I should say the game gets more intense as time goes on because more lands means you can cast better or more spells. and you start at 40 life
@sakurakittyvampire2218
@sakurakittyvampire2218 8 ай бұрын
YESS CARLOS! When I saw you tweet about a 5 colored commander deck I was hoping it’d be Ur-Dragon. I have my own Ur-Dragon deck and my magic group hates when I bring it to the table lol. Really good commander
@isaacbedard9271
@isaacbedard9271 4 ай бұрын
Yo was he able to cheat in a dragon from his hand on the first two attack he made
@Zaykahb
@Zaykahb 8 ай бұрын
They were playing howling mine wrong, which is a pretty easy mistake to make. Specifically, the dragon token copies from Astral dragon. Howling mine only works when it's untapped, so when Carlos attacks with the dragon tokens nobody should have been drawing the 2 extra cards on their turn.
@BrumyYT
@BrumyYT 8 ай бұрын
Am happy to see more Commander Gameplay from you guys! Makes my day type shit
@rorywright3671
@rorywright3671 8 ай бұрын
Magic Monday, cold ones AND supermega uploads all in one day. Our cup runeth over
@tuhmyjuh6314
@tuhmyjuh6314 8 ай бұрын
Extraplanar Lens works for everyone so Peanut would’ve had more mana with his islands!!
@Tremulantone
@Tremulantone 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. He didn't exile an Island under Extraplanar Lens he exiled Snow Covered Islands, meaning the only other lands in the game that would get the effect must also be Snow Covered Islands. I assume its why hes running them over regular islands.
@tuhmyjuh6314
@tuhmyjuh6314 8 ай бұрын
@@Tremulantone oh wow good catch. That’s gotta be the reason why.
@LeviathanMech
@LeviathanMech 8 ай бұрын
Yo love these, look forward to them every week lol. Keep it coming.
@taylon5200
@taylon5200 7 ай бұрын
The editing during combat phase is sick, gj qhoever edits haha
@geoffmason6009
@geoffmason6009 8 ай бұрын
love the model above Peanut's head 😂
@filetofist5286
@filetofist5286 6 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on how you shuffle that deck wubby? Is that 3x sleeved? Do you buy all of the same sleeves or do you have to have different sized ones so they all fit inside each other?
@thatepicwizardguy
@thatepicwizardguy 8 ай бұрын
Locust God getting what it deserves. Other decks kinda cool, too bad Wubby didn't see the power he had in front of him. All in all pretty fun stuff. More games plz :)
@KillShotzSC
@KillShotzSC 8 ай бұрын
Thank GOD! I’ve been waiting for another game!
@eman2593
@eman2593 8 ай бұрын
Wow production is really good on this! Well done boys
@titus4769
@titus4769 7 ай бұрын
0:26 what makes it different is Peanut and Carlos have switched places
@LochMessNomster
@LochMessNomster 8 ай бұрын
Wubby!!!!!! Love these game nights man, I look forward to these uploads!!!? ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@joshskinner4883
@joshskinner4883 5 ай бұрын
The politicking is this game is so organic! Fucking love it. Great game gents
@chris-m1g5r
@chris-m1g5r 8 ай бұрын
Can anyone else confirm that on the Moxfield page for Wubby's deck a little Farquaad picture pops up at the bottom sometimes? Just to make sure I'm not going crazy?
@mrstabguy7394
@mrstabguy7394 8 ай бұрын
16:15 the appropriate reaction
@Karste1n
@Karste1n 7 ай бұрын
You are so real for playing my man Drafna
@diguisaurus
@diguisaurus 8 ай бұрын
I think I recognize Wubby’s dice as the Paladin Roleplaying “Troll Slayer” set
@peoplesoft2784
@peoplesoft2784 8 ай бұрын
Not to be that guy but couldn’t Wubby have gone infinite a turn earlier and or this turn 25:52? His mana vault (?) taps for 3 of any color. And bouncing back an artifact costs 1 blue? I’m positive he’s holding back, which is all fair and good. Probably because free interaction from the other blue player with 5 mana up.
@peoplesoft2784
@peoplesoft2784 8 ай бұрын
36:34 I’m down to admit I’m totally wrong here, but it seems he still has infinite mana, and the ability to draw one more card. Idk though.
@derekkey2803
@derekkey2803 8 ай бұрын
I just commented this. He could have drawn his whole deck too because of Chromatic Orrery's ability.
@SirStrombom
@SirStrombom 8 ай бұрын
New fav commander series!
@ItsPYP
@ItsPYP 8 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH! I’ve been waiting for this for a while now damn I’m excited thank you for making this content broski 🤜🖤🤛
@SaladsWorld
@SaladsWorld 8 ай бұрын
More magic! I look forward to these cant wait for the next one!
@lukepapa8168
@lukepapa8168 7 ай бұрын
As a fellow Winota player, just a couple of things for future games: 1. You have to declare your attacks before the triggers resolve from Winota, but then the creatures coming in off her triggers can then attack anybody at the table. 2. Lena creates a token for each nontoken creature you control, including herself, so Booty should have made 3 when she entered, not 1. Overall, a fun game to watch too, and RIP the inifnite combo Wubbs, but next time!
@ErickC1996
@ErickC1996 8 ай бұрын
That tripple sleaved deck though
@VPB1218
@VPB1218 5 ай бұрын
I want more of this so badly. Where can I find games like this? I like the way it’s shot and thoroughly explained so I know what’s going on.
@Supercrafter-xw4mi
@Supercrafter-xw4mi 8 ай бұрын
Howling mines was the real hero in this game. I genuinely thought booty was fucked from the start, but he came in clutch. This game was so great, I love these big boy decks.
@guyguyguy-w3o
@guyguyguy-w3o 8 ай бұрын
man, these are so much fun to watch.
@taylorjohnson5148
@taylorjohnson5148 8 ай бұрын
With combat celebrant giving you another combat, those creatures that winota brings in tapped and attacking don’t have haste. So when he untaps them they just have to sit there, unless there was something I missed giving them haste
@taylorjohnson5148
@taylorjohnson5148 8 ай бұрын
Same with the rebel from otharri.
@thatmtgnerd
@thatmtgnerd 7 ай бұрын
Loving the commander game plays. If you ever wanna try a new format seeing yall play legacy would be a treat seeing as you already got your duels.
@chrisj3814
@chrisj3814 8 ай бұрын
To summarize the comments: 1.) "UMMM Ackshually Ur-Dragon is NOT cEDH hah, hah. So surprised they're such noobs. They don't even know every intricacy of their decks and how every card interacts. Shameful." (Gatekeeping/Superiority Complex) 2.) "Hey, idk anything about magic but it's entertaining to see a group of pretty cool dudes just hang out and enjoy their hobby together." (Based) 3.) "I love Magic and I love other people loving Magic." (Also Based) I've never seen Wubby hold himself above anyone else regarding MTG. He doesn't claim to be an expert or a pro, he has only ever conveyed love for the game. His enthusiasm alone has turned me into a downright Magic degen and I know there are many more people who now partake in and enjoy the game because of him. But yeah, let everyone know how inferior his knowledge is compared to you(No one fucking cares).
@limonada4347
@limonada4347 8 ай бұрын
really dumb question 'cause I've never played this game, but why does booty not block with his minions?
@kroshyyy
@kroshyyy 8 ай бұрын
He needs them for his commander's ability; when non-humans attack, he gets to look at top 6 cards and if there's a human there, he can put in into play for free. If he blocked with his non-humans, they would die and he couldn't do cool stuff!
@cailebreff7859
@cailebreff7859 8 ай бұрын
The creatures that Carlos are attacking with have an ability called trample which means any damage the attacking creatures would deal that go over the defending creatures toughness will deal damage to the person who was attacked.
@DigitalD20
@DigitalD20 8 ай бұрын
You can't just respond to something entering the battlefield unless there is a trigger. Luckily their was with temur ascendancy but that's not what he was responding to when removing Miirym. If a permanent resolves and there are no ETB effects that player still has priority until another action is taken. Again, nothing was effected I just believe they did that in a previous episode as well and this one caught my attention.
@LolWutMikehSM
@LolWutMikehSM 8 ай бұрын
We don't need it different, I listen to this like a podcast while I do other stuff. I need more content not quality damn you! Quality is off the charts good work bro.
@occrats479
@occrats479 4 ай бұрын
love to be nitpicky so the cast of resculpt at 28:45 can't be done in response to Miirym entering the battlefield since their is no ETB trigger to respond to. Doesn't matter in this case but if, for instance, someone casts a creature with landfall you would not get a chance to interact in-between the spell resolving and the player playing a land or casting a spell (unless that creature has an ETB trigger) so countering would be the best way to prevent the creature from having any impact.
@Scourged-yq5km
@Scourged-yq5km 8 ай бұрын
YES! was hoping and praying for another
@Affirmingtree
@Affirmingtree 7 ай бұрын
Who's editing these? Whoever it is, they're doing a great job making the game super easy to follow for sure. I'm fiending for more wubby commander tbh
@Big-LoFe
@Big-LoFe 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this since the last drop! Lets gooo booooys! 🎉🎉 Carlos bring the rats back 🐀
@pyroshadow33
@pyroshadow33 8 ай бұрын
ur dragon cedh: oh my sweet summer child it most certainly is not lmao. if anything the only commander that stands out is Winota. although Drafna looping the One Ring can be funny
@Grieva-SeeD-
@Grieva-SeeD- Ай бұрын
Carlos looks like a rebellious Matt Scahrff
@Mustachedmedic
@Mustachedmedic 8 ай бұрын
this edit is awesome! well done
@ph_grizz4391
@ph_grizz4391 7 ай бұрын
Hey editor person, you're doing a great job
@weirdkd54
@weirdkd54 7 ай бұрын
Everyone's focused on wubby messing up his infinite turn, but I'm just glad to see booty win
@Volderon
@Volderon 8 ай бұрын
My bf, whos a magic fanatic, got pretty mad when he saw Winota in the thumbnail and said whoever has that is definitely gonna win lmao. He said most people wouldnt even play if that card got brought out to any casual game.
@EDZ1LLA
@EDZ1LLA 8 ай бұрын
Wubby went for the mana drain, really thought my boy would be going STRAIGHT for the Aetherize.
@EDZ1LLA
@EDZ1LLA 8 ай бұрын
Okay I've just checked and I recommend putting an Aetherize in your deck Wubby; card is great.
@fgnsfgnsfgn
@fgnsfgnsfgn 8 ай бұрын
are those things quad sleeved or what? thick decks
@davidsustv5519
@davidsustv5519 7 ай бұрын
The editing is gold lol
@alexvonmaydell
@alexvonmaydell 8 ай бұрын
We need a chaos game with wacky win con commanders
@flubjub
@flubjub 8 ай бұрын
Another great episode! I am curious about the other boardgames in the background though. Are they fun and is there a chance we could see yall play them?
@grelgen
@grelgen 8 ай бұрын
12:35 you have the bird, Winota and Lena as nontoken creatures, should be creating 3 tokens 22:25 imagine how much more impressive this attack would be if you had 2 more tokens
@VundalI
@VundalI 8 ай бұрын
This game had me absolutely *Triggered*
@nickpaoli1054
@nickpaoli1054 8 ай бұрын
Wait, booty plays Winota heads up? That man’s got a nice smile and voice but there’s a devil hiding in him
@2turnt11
@2turnt11 8 ай бұрын
Oh my i cant wait for the Voxy episode
@NexusDD
@NexusDD 7 ай бұрын
Peanut looks like Stu Pickles with a mustache
@Sleeqb7
@Sleeqb7 8 ай бұрын
Peanut/Carlos is correct about 'Enters attacking' vs 'as it attacks' triggers. Thankfully. If they weren't Winota might be considered too strong, y'know? :P
@flynnburke2546
@flynnburke2546 8 ай бұрын
Wubbys slowly getting me into MTG cards from his streams with openings and stuff like this. Im more of a collector of cards but would find it interesting to play can anyone recommend how to get started or what do exactly?
@andrewerickson1256
@andrewerickson1256 5 ай бұрын
No body playing instants on endsteps ahh the casual magic we all know and love
@robmartin9890
@robmartin9890 7 ай бұрын
This could use some low volume fair use background music, but other than that I like it. The ginger is handsome. Wubby7
@OtherGandhi
@OtherGandhi 7 ай бұрын
so glad to see Booty not get robbed lol.
@deluxebreakfast
@deluxebreakfast 8 ай бұрын
pondered my orb over this video
@noahgonzalez203
@noahgonzalez203 8 ай бұрын
I want wubby to bring the heat in one of these videos
@joaocarvao9999
@joaocarvao9999 7 ай бұрын
Super cool , thanks 🇵🇹
@spooderous
@spooderous 8 ай бұрын
Love the new intro.
@fireonice12492
@fireonice12492 8 ай бұрын
I love Peanut's sleeves
@Digdig464
@Digdig464 8 ай бұрын
Love these please make more ❤
@Ejazzle
@Ejazzle 7 ай бұрын
i have no idea whats happening but I'm invested
@docdoom3355
@docdoom3355 8 ай бұрын
man these make my day
@floppyears788
@floppyears788 8 ай бұрын
I think you had infinite mana with drafna, mana vault, training ground and chromatic orray. You didn't have to tap your commander to return the mana vault to your hand, only to make copies
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