Slavoj Žižek: What is freedom today?

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Isn't Ukraine too much hurt because of its desire for freedom? We will be able to discuss this live with a lecturer who is in the TOP-25 of the world's best intellectuals according to Prospect Magazine (UK) and Foreign Policy (USA). He was nicknamed "Elvis of Theory of Culture" and "the most dangerous philosopher in the world."
Slavoj has two degrees of Doctor of Philosophy - in psychoanalysis and humanities, is a co-founder of the Ljubljana School of Psychoanalysis, author of more than 60 books translated into various languages. He is a person who has combined research interests in such topics as classical German philosophy, pop culture, neo-imperialism, fundamentalism, capitalism, tolerance, political correctness, globalization, subjectivity, human rights, Lenin, myth, cyberspace, postmodernism, postmodernism and even David Lynch and Alfred Hitchcock.
Moderator: Jennifer Brick Murtazashvili, Founding Director, Center for Governance and Markets, Associate Professor, Graduate School of Public and International Affairs.
00:00 Intro
2:05 Societal rules and prohibitions
14:50 Ambiguity and variability of freedom
22:50 Riders of apocalypse today
29:00 How the past is changed
37:00 The paradox of inevitable fate
52:10 What Europe should learn from Ukraine
1:07:00 Problems with Western media
1:14:20 Russia’s threats to the West
1:20:50 Varieties of fascism
1:27:20 How to deal with the war
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[@StephenYuan]

30 minutes in so far and I must say that Zizek has still got it. This is the most lucid, captivating talks I have seen him give since his salad days in the global media spotlight during Occupy. He's drawing a picture of a developing Cyberpunk dystopia: plague, war, death, hunger, new digital technologies of control, new global and human/posthuman forms of consciousness.

[@richwilliams1863]

Only took 44 minutes to get round to Peter Sloterdijk

[@ButthurtImmigrant]

“Only” 😂😂😂

[@richwilliams1863]

@@ButthurtImmigrant If there's one area of Zizek's philosophy that we would probably do well to treat with suspicion, I think it would be his phenomenology of time.

[@nightoftheworld]

30:21 *retroactivity/ we can change the past* “I like the idea of a kind of _unfinished ontology._ The world is not fully here, so with every progress forwards, the meaning-not the facts (when you kill many people it’s a fact)-but the meaning of the past changes. This is where ideology enters.”

[@dixienormous8444]

This is one of Zizek's best public appearances. He makes such a beautiful, eloquent leftist case for Ukraine and I'm so glad he calls out Chomsky and Varoufakis's bullshit. Wonderful. Слава Zizek!

[@wachowski9525]

It's not bullshit lmao, it's dissidence. Anyone who is a fan of Zizek should be able to recognize that.

[@dixienormous8444]

@@wachowski9525 What a ridiculously pretentious thing to say.

[@FOLIPE]

Leftist, eurocentric, case for Ukraine. Yes

[@zpcossack]

Nice! Thank you for organizing and moderating the lecture

[@stefdavit]

Somebody please send Zizek an external microphone

[@nightoftheworld]

and higher internet speeds

[@RaggaDruida]

I was thinking the same, if somebody is willing to collaborate and make it happen, i'm pretty sure there's a way of organizing it !

[@civilsocietyprivateinteres1711]

Yeah sounds like a bandwidth problem

[@MarkoStev]

He'd prefer not to.

[@MilliePlateau]

For REAL

[@benjammin4840]

Phenomenal lecture. Many thanks!

[@olegy2996]

Amazing! Thanks

[@freedomofmusic2112]

This was amazing, thank you for this!

[@ehyehehyeh7814]

Thank you.

[@mojdemarvast2366]

Thank You ... Enlightening for a secure social life... Allowed

[@danielomar9712]

You know it's gonna be good when Žižek 's first words are "Tha-" *lag*

[@SimonGros]

thank you

[@sedeslav]

Freedom is immanent, your own. But Liberties implies a liberator, a great "Other" to whom you must always be grateful.

[@elesmoieh7842]

Топ!

[@anonymous0269]

Nice

[@ruipedroparada]

@ Petrus, indeed, and perhaps we could bring into play the notion of papañca (proliferation): the wasteland is a wasteland of proliferation: a labyrinthine-proliferative wasteland, a "dark jungle" [as a footnote: I recently browsed through a Yuval Harari book, in which he offers a hasty reading of Buddhism (riddled with the same old mistakes) and merrily moves on without skipping a philosophical beat ]; the dharma is eminently soteriological precisely because it steps out of proliferation (yes, all is ideology, which is incurable samsara)

[@MsMarcelinjo]

lets collect some money for a good microphone for Slavoj

[@anthonydunn3860]

I really struggled to catch everything because the sound is bad and the subtitles are out of sync. If you could repost or post the script it would be helpful. I really want to catch all that Slavoj is saying.

[@CM-bq9fp]

His communication form fits wonderfully to the mind of the listeners. Like Art.

[@benjammin4840]

The joy of slavoj lectures is to continually re listen and never understand the words he's using 😂

[@catherinemcmillan6111]

If you switch the setting to automatically generated subtitles they're pretty good :-)

[@rileycgraham4977]

you get used to it

[@juliasudarchikova465]

It’s not because of how he speaks but the breaking sound

[@hammerdureason8926]

what is better than free? disposable. this is where one aquires something with the intent of throwing it away. herein is a liberty/freedom from consequence/responsibility where inherent value is defined by ultimate 'doesnt really matter'/'i don't care' -ness whether based on reason, utility or whim. inevitably, this notion of consumeristic freedom regarding things infiltrates and subsumes as a liberator from all domains that require care, consideration & responsibility -- especially social human realtionships or any anti-individual notions such as cooperation, compromise or collective action where 'me' i.e. the individual ' is focus -- from the most intimate relationships ( including the self ) to the political.

[@AlessandroZir]

isn't his thought (and way of speaking) convoluted enough so that he should grant you at least a decent audio?! the point is that it gives you a terrible headache all the more interesting and important is what he says... but you sometimes don't get that and is left only with the headache; your own audio is good; thank you for doing and uploading this; I wish all and only the best to Ukraine!! Zizek is worth any headache anyways, he is a brilliant thinker;

[@AdrianAlexandru]

Žižek if fucking spot on, as always.

[@sbg4331]

Wow! Thanks for such a great speaker!

[@andreatastiere]

I’ll watch this very soon but I want to inform the admins of this channel that subs in this video are not synced. Please fix! 🙏🏻

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

Great talk and also interesting questions (I especially liked how he scrambled for words, when you confronted him with his collaboration with RT)

[@StephenYuan]

Zizek had a brief spell as a top public intellectual. He was published in the New York times, and the Guardian and interviewed and profiled by the MSM. Then they realized that they'd made a mistake; he was never going to be domesticated,. He's an inveterate subversive and a troublemaker. So he was frozen out and more or less ostracized out of his old stomping grounds. RT was one of the few outlets that allowed him to reach a public approaching the size of the ones he commonly addressed only a few years before. RT commonly gave the spotlight to anyone in the West that stirred the pot, that fanned division and discontent, Occupy, BLM, the Green party, rightwong populistas, and yes, Zizek as well. They used these figures because it aligned with their purposes, but none of them were really tools of Russian policy.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

@@StephenYuan Yeah I knew that. I also understand why he did it. I just thought it was funny, because normally you dont see him so flustered and struggling to respond. Also I really liked how he apologized. It felt real and something you dont get to see that often

[@l.w.paradis2108]

I thought that was absurd. During the Cold War, we didn't censor, except during the worst of McCarthy. RT had some outstanding journalists like Chris Hedges and Abby Martin who were opposed to Putin, and remain so. Hedges' entire RT archive was trashed without warning by KZbin, in subservience to the neoliberals. To suggest that appearing on RT is some form of collaboration with putinism is a despicable claim.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@StephenYuan Yeah, because the US is the picture of contentment! If only there were no Russian trolls, there would be no Trump, no racism, no inflation, and OF COURSE no mass shootings.

[@pritch481]

@@StephenYuan He used to be published by Verso, and was on the editorial board of New Left Review, but was eventually removed for some reason.

[@zachbartell843]

subbed

[@KeithMakank3]

I missed this man so much

[@feraion]

Great dressing but a bit of a salad-din underneath. Ok with that cos he eschews being landed with celeb thought leadership branding even though in vain. Easy to be a sympathetic listener. Hard thank goodness to be a follower. Fellow traveller does the job .

[@alcuba7274]

can anyone please tell me where in bosnia the wagner group is active - according to him - and maybe does anyone have a source for this?

[@sepiroth8618]

He wears better Clothes at Home than in TV Shows

[@arturodesimone7134]

Can someone tell me who the American lady is appearing at 1:02:31 and also interviewing him throughout?

[@mmiilleennkkoo]

Freedom is definitely not Assange today!

[@MichalDziubicki]

Damn uploaded 10 days ago... Now I know what freedom was 10 days ago and not now :((

[@user-fp2jf5jb2o]

Коментар на підтримку каналу і ідеї. Дякую

[@giusepperenga8203]

What happened at 41:22?uahuhauhuahuauauauauhuhauhauh

[@francescos7361]

Non è colpa mia se sono intelligente e sono trascendentale , mi dispiace , la mia autorealizzazione si fonda sullo sviluppo delle potenzialità umane come saggezza, compassione , umiltà e amore per il resto non ho soluzioni .

[@user-wx2wb1pp3g]

whar happened with subs?

[@andreasbrey6277]

please, please, please - better sound! Either a 20 EUR mic or just a signal-call or an offline recording send to the channel. Ty though for the interesting content.

[@itaintgonnasuckitself4289]

Good effort but very bad quality for 2022 standards

[@mehowkielan1984]

The pr person of Zizek should really but him a microphone. Terrible audio quality.

[@jh7176]

It is so nice to see one of the smartest and sharpest socialists of our time recognizing Ukraine's struggle for freedom, and not vaguely supporting the Russian Federation for some dumb reason

[@noxiousbloom1363]

3 minutes from the start for the first old soviet joke

[@REANIMATOR067]

oh god!your twitter account doesn't exist..

[@smellmypicture8257]

I don't even know what's real anymore

[@Krotas_DeityofConflicts]

His analysis of Don't look up is not quite on point. They didn't act as if a meteor is not handing for earth, even though the know it; instead, it's that, they are being reassured that it is being handled. The meteor in a way is the Big Other; it is something the people can't fully understand

[@luca1022]

I really don't understand what kind of (heroic) act he has in mind talking about war in Ukraine. What shall we do differently than what we are already doing? We are already sending weapons. Should we send more powerful weapons? We are imposing sanctions and trade ban. Should make them more thorough? His call for action seems to me a little bit vague

[@lotoreo]

Good question! I'm not exactly sure myself, but I think he's talking about the European Left and that we have to get our shit together, because freedom isn't for free, it comes at a price. And he's talking about Russia because Putin is clearly far right and the Russian propaganda interference in the European media has been staunchly anti-Left, so we need to take this shit seriously and not underestimate Russia as just a counter US hegemonic force.. but yeah, what should we do that's heroic according to him? Still not sure, other than uniting Europe as the Left wing

[@skepticmonkey6923]

@@lotoreo The European left should be pro Russian against U.S. hegemony, his point it totally stupid. Being in favor of the genocidal us establishment is idiotic and no one who does it should be considered a leftist. Ukraine has literally killed union members and banned communist parties, everywhere Russia goes communist parties and Soviet imagery gets unbanned. Putin is not “far-right”, he’s a bonapartist who has the backing of the Russian communist party in this conflict. Ukrainians are literally fucking nazis, giving them weapons and support is supporting nazism.

[@skepticmonkey6923]

Leftists should stop being pro Ukraine that’s what they should do.

[@maxburlone3130]

It might appear that weapons are being send, but the process of delivery is very slow and most of the time doesn't get past the usual promises which are being made by various European leaders. Sanctions are being imposed, but it took almost 100 day of brutal war to get to a modest oil embargo. The gas issue is not being solved as well. In the meantime Russia gets enough money to fuel its war effort. And an oil and gas embargo WILL hurt Russia, since Europe is their main market, with little interest from the Asian countries to fill this gap. Furthermore, politically, there's more and more pressure on Ukraine to sign a peace treaty based on Russias demands to stop the war. I think what Slavoj means by the heroic act (he talked a great deal about ideology) is to accept that after the 24th of February the old European Status quo is no longer possible, and therefore we should act in accordance. To imagine a world in which Ukraine wins, and in which we can't be complicit with Kremlin's tendency to determine the conditions on the continent.

[@luca1022]

@@maxburlone3130 , I think I agree with you. Maybe, when he talks about "mobilizing", he also refers to be ready for the dire consequences that would come out from a complete embargo.

[@giusepperenga8203]

He is not sniffing anymore...wooooow

[@igorjee]

1:15:15

[@michstockholm1164]

Q: Isn't Ukraine too much hurt because of its desire for freedom? A: Which freedom? The one you sold to Victoria Nuland & co in 2014?

[@giusepperenga8203]

Hyperreality...It look like we went back to one hundred years ago

[@smellmypicture8257]

what is the western way of life?

[@ethanstump]

Legalism. Which ironically was a Chinese construction. Or maybe doubly ironically, as it seems that most things constructed in the united States are of a Chinese origin.

[@iannordin5250]

@@ethanstump western legal tradition and Chinese Legalist tradition are very different. I'm all for comparisons between China and the USA (I think there is a lot of commonality both would be loath to admit) but this seems like a great watering down of both culture's history and approach to law.

[@ethanstump]

​@@iannordin5250i agree it might be over simplistic but like you said, there is more commonality than people would loathe to admit. they both extend out of a feudal tradition, try to reform it based on "merit" and "standards", try to be hegemonic, and seek to react against critique, Daoism in the legalism timeline, and socialism in the western timeline. they also institute a form of conquest, and to create a strong state. while it's fair to say that they are different phenomena with their own quirks and intricacies, i wouldn't go as far to say they are "very" different. they've also interacted with one another and have influenced one another. also any sort of analysis will by necessity emphasize certain aspects while deemphasizing others, thus "watering it down". there is also the fact that I've not gone to college yet, so my analysis might be rather crude based on the class filter known as "college". however, even on the wiki page of legalism, it states: In 2003, Ross Terrill writes that "Chinese Legalism is as Western as Thomas Hobbes, as modern as Hu Jintao. It speaks the universal and timeless language of law and order. The past does not matter, state power is to be maximized, politics has nothing to do with morality, intellectual endeavor is suspect, violence is indispensable, and little is to be expected from the rank and file except an appreciation of force."

[@iannordin5250]

@@ethanstump I get what you're saying, I thought you were implying that the US had based its laws/legal and ethical framework on a Chinese system when both were products of convergent evolution. I will say that China and the US are less similar for the legal perspectives (the glaring difference between one's legal system being set up for service towards the pursuit of a concept of social harmony and pragmatism while one is set up under an assumption of the protection of individual rights ordained by a belief in natural law), and more similar in that both are what the Chinese would deem as being "civilization states" - nations founded and defined not through ethnic history and regionalism but instead created and perpetuated by a belief in a common civil structure and obligation that units everyone living in their borders regardless of ethnicity or culture. Both civilizations states have radically different frameworks for what values they consider to be foundational to their nation and how they believe their citizens relate to their system, yet the nature of the civilization state as a nation defined by ideology insures that both end up acting quite similar in how they relate to the rest of the world and define their place within it. China and the US are the way they are because ideology defines and justifies their existence, and thus both do everything in their power to safeguard and perpetuate their foundational ideology on an internal and global stage.

[@ethanstump]

​@@iannordin5250 yes... and no. the enlightenment figures that us founder's based their society on did cite Chinese influence, but it's only one influence among many. also it's the base that moves the superstructure, and not the other way around. the material conditions of society dictate what ideologies (including foundational ideologies) are able to be put foward and maintained. an example would be "a car is a necessity". it's only after you are awash in oil that such an idea can become hegemonic. with the growth and assimilation of the world capital market, the underlying material conditions increasingly effect everyone in way's that aren't dissimilar, thus whether you have two people doing the same activity for supposed different reasons, ( supposed because the methods leads to ethics, if you want different ethics you must choose different methods) the end result is the same. these nation states then use these ideologies that are lying around to justify and legitimize the expansion and strengthening of the world capital market, which then in turn strengthens the case for these ideologies that are laying around. TLDR: the ideological style that each inhabits, does not change the underlying material substance, thus whether a wolf is wearing pigs or sheeps clothing, they are still wolfs, and are still nation states built upon militarization and exploitation. both directly are harming the growth of a decentralized administration that is based on self-determination. we must create the means of self-administration.

[@rasapriapus]

Freedom? Well, it all sucks but it feeds differently. Next

[@user-qw8sn5kt1b]

А українською можна перекласти?

[@alesjunek5930]

I don't know if he is spitting facts or not but he is definitely spitting

[@e6198]

She really wanted to rid of him 😂

[@G0TIMAN]

1:09:29 yes, there were atempts but only lenin gave this ukraine it's southern parts and only bolsheviks allowed their culture to thrive

[@ruipedroparada]

the usual Zizekian misunderstanding of Buddhism, lovely, lovely

[@Chorismos]

I don't think he misunderstands Buddhism ITSELF but rather criticizes some of the western Buddhists...who use a bastardized version of Buddhism.

[@Chorismos]

Sort of how he argues that Western INTERPRETATIONS of Christanity believes in radical individuality which results in unethical consumption.

[@CynicalBastard]

@@Chorismos Not only that, but a sort of ultrafascism (you are excluded from the kingdom of God, therefore, you are not a "brother", and that means not even human - a traditional concept of dehumanisation, drawn up big), and even a kind of ultramonarchism (this is literally where most of our notions of "kings" come down to us in the west, that is, Europe and the "New World" - it's not that different from some kind of Mongolian monarchy, but there is a ultraheaven, a platonic sky). This is mirrored in the notion of the "golden age" polemos treated as an agon.

[@Sidiciousify]

What does it matter anyway just forget about it.

[@mmiilleennkkoo]

Glory?!? Really? Calling for glory???

[@tihomirzivkovic7143]

The end of the talk is completely a tragic one: while Ukraine is fighting for the supposed idea of the West, Žižek admits that the very West considers their women to be nothing but meat. And the Russians attacking Ukraine know very well that this western stereotype is nowhere near true...

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Wollin - Inverted Totalitarianism

[@szymondalagopisz7878]

Diggah, gibt so Leute die sich Zizek geben, seine Ideen nachvollziehen können, seine englische Aussprache checken und noch die miese Qualli des Tons in kauf nehmen über 1,5h. Bruder, was los mit euch? Was eure mission so?

[@dakotamiller6155]

for the sake of peace just give him back the eastern-bloc, let's stop this war, and west and east could live side-by-side in reconciliation like in good old times

[@Kosh998]

Good old times when Russia killed anyone who is against communism? They were good in the Western but not Eastern Europe

[@yashodjayasooriya1611]

Qs

[@robertbrennan2268]

Slava Ukraini!

[@andrejs2708]

Slava Rossii!

[@skepticmonkey6923]

Nazi

[@ruipedroparada]

I know Mr. Z must have invested a considerable amount of time looking into "Buddhism" (a thoroughly despicable term, at any rate) and I agree with most of his critique of the Mahayana; but "love", universal or otherwise, is not a buddha-dharma notion at all; the concepts at play are metta (friendliness; benevolence) and karuna (compassion), which saccharine "Western Buddhists" have rendered as "loving-kindness" - an utterly obscene compound (one could easily imagine a sort of un-loving-kindness or loving-unkindness, right?); just thought Mr Z should not dispatch the Buddha so readily...it is not only intellectually dishonest - it is just cowardly....his counterparts on the Right do exactly the same because they seem unable to read history without the Bible, etc, etc

[@CynicalBastard]

Mr. Z has already critiqued this "brotherliness" [and it's precise inversion from within itself], in Christianity, etc. etc., as a feign on "Buddhist" notions which have been westernised: and he's found the appropriate understanding of what is only a translation of something (lovingkindness is a translation of חֶסֶד • [khésed]): which is in the phrase of "Christ being there" between his "flock", "brothers" , what have you. It's homologous with his reading on Western Buddhism as what I typically call (myself, I mean, I've come up with the phrase) 'Earth-Gaia Buddhism'. It's a critique on the overdetermination of these and consumption of these (some might say 'consummation' of) these values of 'compassion' and 'friendliness/benevolence' with the "true" aspect of what is the "golden age" aspect, as such, of Buddhism (exemplified by his reading, most crucially [I'm kidding], of Kung-Fu Panda). So therefore; your critique is summarily noted.

[@ruipedroparada]

@@CynicalBastard many thanks CynicalBroadcast for taking time to reply - also, I would like to make clear my admiration for Mr Z's work (which has brought humour back into the field of philosophy, if nothing else)

[@mikemcdermott393]

I would bet money that this comment was written by Slavoj on one of his troll accounts haha

[@PetrusSolus]

Zizek is all too typical of the Left in its incessant desire to provide the definitions, or redefinitions, of what it deems ideologically legitimate - whether it's love, compassion, justice, enlightenment, and so on. Indeed, some time back, he even stated that since "Communism" as a term had suffered such a complete diminishment, it would need a new term to replace it. Was that intellectually dishonest as well? Time will tell, but it is as good as guaranteed that Buddhism in all its forms will survive any facile opinions of it, even while no such guarantee can be made for ideological constructions of any kind... Buddhism is a supreme vehicle vis-a-vis the temporal wasteland in which ideology appears.

[@yoyochickenbro2962]

either way it doesn't matter, he didn't actually criticise Buddhism itself nor does it matter to his point if it was perceived in that way.

[@michstockholm1164]

It's amazing how philosophers constantly avoid the material reality - even the materialistic ones! :D My dear Zizek, your ideas or any other ideas aren't that important at all. Caring for the energy prices first is not immoral - it is essential - come down to earth. Whatever those Russian or Liberal ideologists dream about is peanuts comparing to the capital of the Washington-oligarchs and Kiev-oligarchs and the other capitalistic powers of the world. The oligarchs already have their "internationalen" . When the f will the workers get their, especially when the crazy dreamers such as you continue getting paid by the capitalistic interests and contribute to giving the legitimacy to those who are defending the capitalism and discredit the socialism.

[@usmanahmadtube]

Horrible audio !

[@dvegule920]

"Pitt’s Graduate School of Public and International Affairs will open a new Center for Governance and Markets with $4.2 million in promised Koch funding." "Jennifer and Ilia Murtazashvili, associate professors at GSPIA, are listed as co-directors on the new grant, although Jennifer is listed as the primary center director." Sorry guys. On that don't agree with Mr. Zizek. Stick with Chomsky and Mearsheimer and so on.

[@benjammin4840]

Lol wut

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Exactly. Thanks for the accurate information. Stephen F Cohen was above them all.

[@kevley26]

What the hell does Koch funding of a school have to do with Zizek? Are you saying that any person anywhere who has even given a talk at a school that recieves donations from powerful people is at fault?? Because I have news for you about Chomsky and Mearsheimer...

[@ivaxnog6157]

hu

[@AdmiralFlapPlap]

He needs milk!

[@funkymunky]

Do my moutsch fartsch perturb you? *nasal beatbox*

[@REANIMATOR067]

he has lost it

[@ElectricityTaster]

he never had it

[@lotoreo]

He lost what he never had - there's no better way to describe the Lacanian lack

[@hugocuandon1319]

Ukraine would have become a NATO country bringing the war effectively to Russian border, Russia beat them to the punch by bringing war to Ukraine and the United States provoked this event. The great thing about this tragedy is that Russia does not give a rats rear about Zizek´s or anyone else´s opinion, what a disappointment to hear Zizek call Elensky a hero. Clearly Zizek has a grudge against Russia like most east europeans.

[@Solus147]

Why wouldn't East Europe have a grudge against Russia? They've been screwing our countries ever since WW2 ended. Russia is just a power hungry tyrant that's trying to stay relevant in a world that is changing too fast for them. And because Russia has never been too open to the world like the rest of the world did. The russian peole hate the west because that's what their politics are teaching them. The West did not hate Russia as much as they hated us. But today everyone hates Russia. It's almost impossible for East Europe to survive alone, so they have to accept some form of control from the outside. I'd rather have UK, France and Germany, and so some extent USA, control some of my country, instead of Russia. They have a better understanding of the world and are not trying to actively destroy our countries. That is why a United States of Europe is the greatest thing that can happen today.

[@kevley26]

If Ukraine became a NATO country there would be no war. Did war happen when Estonia became a NATO country?? Why do you think Ukraine wanted to be in NATO? It was the only way to ensure they would not be invaded. NATO and Russia have 0 interest with being at war with each other, and that is a reason why the US did not want to have Ukraine in the alliance.

[@patrickvernon2749]

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[@MrFlinchenstein]

Impressive, that he is both so myopic and obtuse.

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

Nonsense. He’s not myopic; he’s, in fact, among the most farsighted intellectuals, EVER. Obtuse, perhaps, but only to the gormless.

[@TuuguuSMD]

hes just a bullshitter now, doesnt even know what hes really talkin bout, did u see him avoiding to give comments on azov battalion? he just shifted to wagner

[@TMinozaJ]

@@TuuguuSMD so because someone doesn’t give you a hot take on every current issue of the day, they must be bullshitting?

[@LIMYOONA90]

​@@TMinozaJ and accusing slavoj by “real”, which is hilarious, apparently he had no idea slavoj žižek is a PhD professor both on structuralism and german idealism

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

@@TuuguuSMD nonsense! He knows precisely what needs to be said, and it often involves neglecting a question that deals with irrelevancies

[@kyleferguson5175]

the pish about Ukraine Nazis being freedom fighters means not even worth a viewing¬

[@skepticmonkey6923]

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