Slavoj Zizek - Chomsky is behind accusations that I am racist

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[@iwouldprefernotto49]

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[@rzbo9000]

Zizek saying his marriage votes: " i promise to take care of you and so on and so on" jajaja

[@asuka_the_void_witch]

lol

[@bryce7540]

😂💀

[@nemesiszer0708]

*CHNIFF*

[@HiveFleetUlfang1]

You may sniff the bride

[@elendiel]

"Do you take xxx to be your lawful wife?" "Yes, but I want to be very precise here! You know, this ceremony reminds me of an old soviet joke..."

[@wonderingbrit4163]

Oh no mum and dad are fighting again

[@phiguy6473]

lol

[@milztempelrowski9281]

I like you

[@spectreamericana1221]

Oof

[@Taofik953]

dad and dad* (this leftist house is strictly homosexual)

[@bozoc2572]

@@Taofik953 only one dad(Chomsky) is retarded(he got brain damage for wanting to be edgy analytical) and shits his pants and smears it all over the place and blames his continetal hubby Žižek...

[@aslkjdfhkasdasdklfjasdjk5310]

Top 10 anime betrayals of all time

[@nicanornunez9787]

#9 Liz Warren handshake refuse

[@felipedaiber2991]

#7 the labour party sabotaging itself to avoid Corbyn from goberning

#6 brazilian left not uniting to take off Lula from jail and for take Bolsonaro out of presidency

[@ontmaskeraar6978]

#5 Syriza betraying the left by accepting EU austirity measures

[@georgebruce7288]

#4 the hosts girlfriend who had enough at 6:07

[@cassandrajoiner9933]

Chomsky: I can't turn the volume loud enough Zizek:I need to use the subtitles.

[@eyezuel5307]

Cassandra Joiner THERES NO SUBTITLESSSSSSSSSSSSS AGHHHHHHKTDD FHKFJ

[@richardbruce8869]

Cassandra Joiner who are you and why do you know so much about my personal life?

[@theapplechapel]

Please someone add subtitles or a transcript I can't understand a word Zizek is saying.

[@lazycatstyle]

You just described my every day struggle

[@wokenpc4865]

Omg, chomsky is so brilliant but why the hell can't he stop mumbling his words, it's even depressive to me

[@Nahuatl22]

Medical experts: don’t touch your face. Slavoj Zizek:...

[@Zen-rw2fz]

I'm not much different here, apparently you can infect people just by talking with them, so what difference does it make if I touch myself with my own hands?

[@patavinity1262]

@@Zen-rw2fz Yeah, you *can* be infected just by being in someone's vicinity. You're *more likely* to be infected by getting the virus on your hands and then touching your face.

[@BoydJones]

And so on.

[@Zen-rw2fz]

@@patavinity1262 I mean if it's that infectious then you're probably allready infected when you get it on your hand, unless you're washing your hands every 10 seconds

[@ALeaud]

@Vassal Colony It's a joke, snowflake.

[@muffinman5741]

He looks like he should look older than he is but for some reaosn he still looks younger than he is, he is 71.

[@ramen4386]

haha this is so accurate

[@MrTed-xi2iz]

Damn, I thought he was 50 something and was just wrinkly from stress and shit

[@Swanky11]

No way! I never realised he was that old

[@OHYS]

And Noam Chomsky is even older. He was born in 1928. That’s like really fucking old. Chomsky makes Žižek look young

[@recordbum]

Lol I thought he was in his middle fifties

[@TheKlever666]

"You know what *deeply, deeply* hurt me, a *little bit* ?" Awwww ;-(

[@waddysoap4868]

:)

[@antoinepetrov]

Cute

[@brisca1668]

One of *the* best lessons i learned from zizek is that the most racist thing is to act as if certain groups were unable to think for themselves. Of course racist hate speeches about the dangers of Islam should be condemned, but *to act as if Islam should not be criticized infantilises Muslims more than any racist ever could*

[@gertituzi4659]

The most racist thing is racism (internment camps, and incarceration purely based on race). The rest is called life. Stop taking over language and making all words equivalent.

[@brisca1668]

@@gertituzi4659 Racists consider minorities a threat What i described basically considers them infants What is more insulting? Of course the first thing has worse consequences, but racism is an ideology, it is not purely constituted by acts

[@gertituzi4659]

Brisca yes it is. Otherwise everything becomes racism. Humans use patterns. You’re clustering all patterns into one. Nobody wants an inside policeman to control who they like, dislike, or are afraid of. Actions matter. The rest is none of your business.

[@jajlertil]

It’s a good point you most often only hear from conservative voices, the soft bigotry of low expectations.

[@brisca1668]

@@jajlertil Yeah but the bigotry of low expectations tends to be used to brush over systemic injustice. The difference is also that one is made as a counter-reaction to bigotry and on accident and the other would be straight up racism but hidden

[@ulasgursoy2838]

"I cannot imagine a more western cultural phenomenon than political correctness"

[@ulasgursoy2838]

@@bluebutterfly4594 Political correctness and politeness are two very different things. Politeness is not a part of a culture, it is a part of every decent human and it is seen as a positive thing in every culture. The west, like most countries, welcomes visitors to their country because tourism brings money. Not wanting a horde of immigrants with a vastly different culture moving into your country isn't "not welcoming visitors", it's protecting your identity as a nation. Every nation thinks their culture is somehow superior to others, this is not exclusive to the west. That's why nationalism exists. Nowhere in this video does Zizek claim that western culture is somehow superior, he simply points out that we need to see every culture for what they are and acknowledge that every culture has its bad parts. Also growing up in the middle east, I can't help but feel some cultures are inferior to others.

[@tenaciousdfan9]

I find political correctness to be quite similar to blasphemy laws, and in that case it's a global phenomenon, but perhaps more pronounced and weird in the west.

[@asuka_the_void_witch]

@@bluebutterfly4594 ummm no, most people in ALL cultures are racist.

[@asuka_the_void_witch]

@Dean Reichel oh

[@arnoldkapinova3685]

@@hildegardvonbingen9092 Well it's very problematic how you see other societies! There are kind people everywhere, even more than you think in these societies, and yes, their state might not give you the benefits Geemany or France give to refugees, but the people will. My grandma in ww2, Albania hosted Buko and Trude, 2 jews whom she never understood a word they were speaking, when in every other country they were being sold to the SS. And a lot of other families in my hometown did so as well all over Albania. How they treat dissidents, minorities women etc in say, African states, is not a fundamental problem rooted in their culture, it is mainly due to structural violence mantained by state dictatorships directly or indirectly working with the blessings of european governments who still exploit their resources. Example: Do you know that 40% of world chocolate is produced in Cote d'Ivoire? There would be a bloody war very fast if they decide to nationalize the production of chocolate and don't let the French and Belgian corporates do the processing of it. Development develops inequality in a global scale, and a globalized economy. The misery leads that in these countries, the local versions of perverse right wing populsits win. And they are not at all nice. And they take the worst "traditions" of their country and make them their standard politics which include a lot of violence. I agree that muslim and other religions have as well a violent past but " who is more cruel islam or christianity" is an irrelevant question for such problems. Rather we should be asking why peripherical countries of the world are not democratic? And the answer is not cultural, but political. In Europe, women and the poor were not even allowed to vote until deep in the 19th century. And no, Europe's democracy didn't come as a result of expansion and technological development (?), but as a result of workers' and women's struggles for equality.

[@ZombieDragQueen]

I love interviews with Zizek. He goes above and beyond to answer in depth every and any question. Basically if the reporter calls in sick the TV station can just get an intern to interview him: Intern: "But I don't know who he is and... wait, this card has only two questions and we're supposed to film an hour." Producer: "Don't worry about it. He'll do most of the talking and we'll even have to cut a lot in post-production. But in the unlikely case he gets silent just say the following two names: Stalin and Fukuyama. No need for a question; he'll take it from there."

[@QoraxAudio]

Yup you either love or hate his chaotic and excessively long answers that evolve into different topics of which you've never even imagined there would by a link between.

[@felipedaiber2991]

Fukuyama was completely wrong on everthing by the way

[@ZombieDragQueen]

@@felipedaiber2991 And Zizek likes to say why, in lengthy minute details. You're getting at least a half hour monologue out of it.

[@ALF3RJ4NI]

felipe daiber how

[@billedwilliamson8496]

👏

[@erickarenas4429]

6:38 he is refering to Ciudad Juárez, city I live in and yes, since 1990 until now the rape culture has been uncontrollable. But it's not only rape, it's murder, femicide and a whole misogynist culture that of course is horrible and has put the city and the entire country (Mexico) on a global spot. It's awful.

[@flimflam6652]

Oh yeah, I knew a Mexican girl in High School whose parents moved from the city for similar reasons.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Read about Rotherham. The gang rapes went on for so long that the last victims were not yet born when the gang formed and the very first were raped. It was not the only ring, and they claim there wasn't police complicity and corruption, but I don't believe it, based on the length of time it lasted and how much evidence was "lost" or compromised. If there wasn't, it is literally the first time in history that a gang so powerful and elaborate got along without it.

[@kriskong9962]

I also heard that girls are geting very fat on purpose to not attrackt rapes .. which is just wow if true

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

@@flimflam6652 Well that settles it. All we needed was your 'research'.

[@laleydelamor1327]

I’m catholic and support Zizek for criticizing us. If someone points what’s rotten inside of church, I see it as chance for improvement. Civil law is not the same for all and it should be. That’s how I see it.

[@johnnonamegibbon3580]

I do too. But I also support people pointing out that pedophilia is a s high in Protestant Churches, Jewish Synagogues, and way higher in secular institutions. Unless they acknowledge that, they're losers that aren't worth addressing.

[@laleydelamor1327]

John NoNameGibbon That should be adressed too. But we are the one gathered around Jesus- pillar of morality, justice, love..and everything what’s creating order. If Jesus carried cross while completley innocent, pedophiles in church shouldn’t hide for what they did. If guilty, it’s not moral to avoid the cross, if innocent, we should take the cross gladly, just like Jesus did. No exuse for covering up, that’s not brave at all. I understand all human beings are inperfect, but if you did something, pay the ticket. Yes, covering up should be exposed, in any grupation of people.

[@johnnonamegibbon3580]

@@laleydelamor1327 I'm fine with that. But I'm not letting them point a finger at me while they have much worse cross on their side.

[@laleydelamor1327]

John NoNameGibbon Yes, but if someone doesn’t belive in cross in the first place, we are the one who should show what the cross means. Our house in order first, cross is our burden. But that’s just my view point. Wish You all the best, aswell to all people

[@Miriyum1031]

La Ley Del Amor well said

[@MRGUSTAVOCHICKENFRING]

My books are pirated, they're popular! 😂

[@kzr_1613]

Fucking legend 🤣

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

I don't understand what anyone is impressed by in this empty charlaton

[@nika-og4vu]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 Can you share with us of what you are impressed by?

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@nika-og4vu Mhm I like plain and native character.. I like those who have a latent power and its emitted through their demeanor and it's impossible that a person worthy of the light emanating from them does not perceive it.. I believe a persons substance informs and colours their soul and the world that they see.. I like people like Emerson and Nietzsche (even tho I dont agree much with Nietzsches written thoughts, and even my own expire as soon as they're written, but the law of their Character is still read through it).. I read once in Zizeks book that he considered the loss of imagination and colour in children's drawings as they age through school, as a "victory of wisdom/realism" rather than a dulling of their spirit by the state. He believes in nothingness, and this is just a reflection of his own spirit. And nothing else appears to me but this in his work. I know you probably didnt want all of this from me but thanks for asking 😂 And I wish you the best!👍

[@hienrichthegreat2765]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 nice

[@nanoloopbandit]

With all these new levels of political correctness, of course Zizek would appear to be racist. He’s obviously not racist

[@dammbleth2]

@Dean Reichel its almost as if race is real or something

[@tugger]

@Stable Genius except it as a concept, as it was generated, is a 'white thing'. but go on, imply 'white' is a legitimate race

[@hareeshscifi13]

1:16 you know what hurt me really? *holds back tears

[@arnaufigueras]

Sometimes I try to imagine the feeling of Zizek's simultaneous interpreters ;)

[@veroosh]

Zizek isn't a racist fundamentally as all his critical theory aims at one thing : destroy the imperialist establishment. He's coercive and this underpinning is singularly that aim. Chomsky, if this is true, is actually defending the establishment by saying that. Its very hard for people from the west to understand eastern european perspectives because they don't feel our history/reality.

[@veroosh]

And although I respect him a lot and have learned a lot from him, I don't agree with much of the subtext of his conclusions btw. (Zizek not Chomsky)

[@SalihAsh-sherif]

To say that Chomsky is defending the imperialist establishment, means you don't know Chomsky. You can clearly see that zizek is giving lectures in Israel. He didn't mention it here but you can see it in other videos . Israel is the worst apartheid genocidal theocracy that was supported by the west and all current middle eastern disasters are traced back to it.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

We can't "understand" without "feeling" your history? Whut?

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

What does "Zizek isn't a racist fundamentally" even mean? He's racist, but it's a minor part in his thinking?

[@Vekikev1]

@@dreamingrightnow1174 lol your comments are proof that OP is right.

[@giovannibello6954]

What he says about his readers in Islamic countries is also true in the case of Bolivia. While some leftist liberals don't like his work, one of the most interesting young aymara intellectuals (Carlos Macusaya) addresses many of his claims against the folklorization of indigeneity there...

[@silverdragon710]

You guys read zizek in bolivia wow! Im from a neighboring country so to me he's always kind of a local intellectual, nice to see he is popular in another part of the non mainstream world as well

[@Odinsday]

@@silverdragon710 Well.... yeah..... They have internet too (Well, before their dictator takes it away).

[@silverdragon710]

DustyO'Rusty lol i know i came across as patronizing but a slovene philosopher (im croatian) being famous all over the world is still mind blowing to our pastoral mentality

[@Ivan-qf4mt]

@vikedude 123 what are you talking about?

[@lolcatjunior]

@vikedude 123 Islam didn't smash Communism in Somalia or Afghanistan. America did after funding terrorist groups to attack any government not allied to the US. Terrorist groups which still plague the middle east to this day.

[@akhilbeniki4688]

Nobody shakes hands with Zizek

[@larshofler8298]

ok buddy

[@paulagrimoldi9699]

How original...

[@ernestosueiro70]

Maybe this was pre COVID

[@exandil6029]

Wouldn't it be funny if when asked about being a racist reactionary repetitive charlatan he'd've replied with yes, it's all true and what's worst, I even am a narcissist.

[@Nalhek]

The truly Hegelian response would be for him to say that one can only become truly non-racist by being racist

[@patavinity1262]

Both responses would be entirely typical

[@frankandstern8803]

And wouldn't it be nice if after replying "yah you got me," he followed up with " "now can we get back to this issue of troubling cultural behavior and not act like a bunch of twits that go for a walk because they need to cut a fart?" The your a racist assertion is usually offered as the end of the discussion or a deviation from the issue that is being discussed. People have become aware of it even if the contributor of such presumptions is oblivious to their own conversational tendencies. Just keep missing the point. It unfortunately has proven to be an effective means of driving home agendas of social castrating ridiculousness. All because of genitals and white guilt ,not to mention certain creatures disconnected with their true CULTURAL IDENTITY. Just look at some of these painted clowns of bubble brain habitation. The Antisocialism of a Socialist. It's hard for someone who cant bulls##t themself bulls##t one who stands up straight.

[@frankandstern8803]

@vikedude 123 religion is irrelevant to my point. Believe what you want. Criminal activity and targeting girls for gang rape is another. Pay attention and understand what is being said before you rush in losing your mind. Nobody was talking about your religion. Are you OK in the head OCK NOD? Rape is still rape fellah no matter what religion you choose. What you guys need to get through your Head is that you need to respect the Laws and sensibilities of your host nations. And if you cant, leave and take Shariah with you on the way out. Nobody needs your temper tantrums or sexual retardedness.

@vikedude 123 "ISLAM SMASHED" You got that part right.

[@nikmills]

We gotta all start talking like this guy.

[@danielhazard9040]

In which Zizek introduces the subtleties of a nuanced argument.

[@odebla2015]

"We are all Christians blablabla" - Slavoj Zizek 7:37

[@mikeisapro]

@Vassal Colony Wow

[@odebla2015]

@vikedude 123 Any evidence of your beliefs?

[@odebla2015]

@vikedude 123 Which one?

[@HegemonicMarxism]

@vikedude 123 😂

[@HegemonicMarxism]

@@odebla2015 None

[@jamiestwrt]

When the topics you discuss are so goddamn HOT u have to develop nervous ticks to even engage with them XD

[@0310Music]

Am I the only one who thinks the video title is misleading? There was an article from a different author and Zizek jokes that Chomsky is behind it. So in fact Chomsky didn't call him a racist? 🤔 Still very interesting video though!

[@tixanthrope]

the title is fine. just that u an idiot.

[@tunafish23]

This KZbin makes their money by repackaging short clips from freely available Zizek interviews with clickbait titles. The title is deliberately misleading for this purpose.

[@poi2lkj3mnb]

It seems like your missing the fact that there is a game of telephone going on here. Chomsky doesn't do hit pieces. He had Robinson for that. Similar to how many politicians will have their cheerleaders in the press working from talking points written by the politician.

[@stoneylonesome4062]

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Chomsky said/thinks such. He’s a hypocrite when it comes to religion.

[@RobertHo987]

I don't know this channel but it seemed obvious to me he's joking and the title is indeed misleading, however i had to scroll down pretty far to find this comment, the first to interpret it as such

[@Stynze]

the thumbnail looks like a Joe Rogan clip thumbnail

[@bledback2life]

Slavoj "let's have a line and so on and so on" Zizek.

[@OldSethOnetooth]

Re what he says about German media refusing to publish that an immigrant was responsible for a rape, in the UK this is one of the written rules of membership of the NUJ, National Union Of Journalists.

[@domsjuk]

7:20 Absolutely true. And this is what some parts of the sanctimonious, oversensitive academic culture are just not able to do and bend over backwards to undermine. It can be ridiculously difficult to have a sober discussion about such topics without attracting all kinds of stigmatizing buzzwords, pathetic smart-alecky inferences about one's supposed political and ideological context and agenda. Mind you, these are very particular (pseudo-)intellectual circles, but I feel the people who have to deal with it in their daily academic work, and those who don't even get to do this work in the first place, because their research ideas ironically don't fit in.

[@FrozenRat161]

You can talk about sociological issues without using blatant stereotyping. Zizek does it correctly, reactionaries don't. That reactionaries aren't respected in quality academia is not weird at all. However Zizek's point with the incapability of some even naming such issues is real too. But it also stems from being very sensitivized to people stereotyping because of racist views. If people can not differenciate between biggotry and sociology that becomes a problem but it's not nearly as big as rightists would want you to believe.

[@domsjuk]

@@FrozenRat161 I'm not sure if the blatant stereotyping is referring to my choice of words at all, but I absolutely agree with what you said. I guess I had a little too much polemics flakes for breakfast that day, but I stand by the basic claim anyway. The problem in academia indeed is usually not the academic core itself, but people who influence, select, and engage with research on the whole. I'd never deny that research is political in its own way, but some people are way beyond a proper balance between being politically and socioeconomically conscious and a neutral and critical attitude towards research, not even speaking of being able to handle the sorts of approaches, such as the psychoanalytic one focussing particularly on the "dirty stuff". The Chomsky case just kind of shows the scope of it. To be fair though and to perhaps relativize what people may get from my statement, there is a lot of (sometimes innocent or ignorant, sometimes zealous) rather right-wing criticism to such a critical understanding of culture as well in (cross-)cultural studies, which will resort to just the same kind of accusations and tactics that I mentioned. I have experienced that myself as well in seminars and outside of uni.

[@FrozenRat161]

@@domsjuk Nah, I agree with you. The "blatant stereotyping" thing was refering to some rightwing anti-immigration stuff. But I definetly prefer the rethoric of your second comment over your first one. This way it is more precise what you wanted to say.

[@drunkbison6377]

Watch “Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity” by James Lindsay. The situation is hitting its boiling point.

[@1nfiniteSeek3r]

I wonder if Zizek ever watched True Detective 1 and what he thought about it?

[@l3p3]

Ask him then what he thinks of Spongebob and Inception, please.

[@copypaste3526]

The people who hurt other the most are those who think that they do not have a dark side.

[@NReza]

This man is full of wisdom

[@silverdragon710]

Agree with him here 100%

[@HueyTheDoctor]

Agree with what? What did he say? I'm not being facetious. What was his message? Did he raise a single cogent point in this whole rambling diatribe?

[@TJB_333]

Sometimes I remember when you could just go to the shops

[@robertstan298]

*plays on the world's smallest violin*

[@dinnerwithfranklin2451]

Interesting segment, thank you

[@chrispaquette7513]

Just off-camera there's a porter getting a pack of disinfectant wipes prepped for that chair.

[@T4SelNiNO]

Imagine being so intellectually bankrupt that you would translate zizeks work as racist. Embarrassing

[@zinedinosmanovic5192]

Nathan and Chomsky are both far less "intellectually bankrupt" than Žižek. Greetings from Slovenia!

[@VinnyDrugs]

You clearly don't know who Noam Chomsky is.

[@argosfe7445]

Chomsky intellectually bankrupt? Come on.

[@argosfe7445]

@Sixshooter 9 I am pretty sure he only said that Bernie Sander did not fail in the sense that a social movement was lifted by his campaign AND that by supporting Biden, Sanders is trying to beat Trump who is a direct threat to the humanity who will have many crisis the Trump administration are not taking seriously. Or are you suggesting Trump is the right choice?

[@EmilianoAC1]

@Sixshooter 9 yes, because Bernie dropped out and Biden is way Better than Trump, he always talked about harm reduction by voting for the less of two evils

[@jotagabe]

Could it be subtitled, please? English is not my mother language and is very hard for me understand Zizek's accent

[@timeandspacemonkey]

I feel your pain my man

[@martinreid2352]

Yeah, I like to keep up on youtube drama

[@rebbecawitt581]

I was not expecting Slavoj to explain rape culture, but hey I'm not gonna complain

[@derekcarter3470]

I'm very curious If Zizek can communicate with a mask on...

[@flimflam6652]

These jokes about Zizek's nervous tics are all fucking hilarious

[@TadValente]

Please just give me one Zizek video with subtitles...

[@ScottMachesky]

Isn’t Chomsky’s provocative claim that “Zizek’s theories can be explained to a 12 year old in 5 minutes” the same posturing he accuses Zizek of being guilty of?

[@richardhill7050]

Chomsky, oddly enough given his anti-elitist philosophy, can be incredibly elitist at times. It’s strange because by most accounts he’s a genuinely friendly and kind person, but man he can be an asshole sometimes.

[@ScottMachesky]

@@richardhill7050 I thought the exact same thing.

[@Mustanaamio7]

Not really, it is just truth. Zizek has nothing to say.

[@nickporter574]

The R word is overly used and abused I have no idea what it means. The concept is practically empty at this point. Crisis of character.

[@Bungadin639]

Listening to Zizek too often has given me a cold.

[@miguelricardoarandazamudio9483]

I really like some of the questions made by Zizek un some issues, but the problem with him it's that his answers are really floppy. I don't think that he is a racist.

[@SimonSozzi7258]

Who here is standing 12 feet away from Zizek? Before Covid I would NEVER shake his hand! No way! Btw, he must have a strong immune system.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Zizek just proved he is non-Western. I cannot for a moment imagine a single Westerner saying what he just said about confronting rape and similar horrific subcultural phenomema, "the dark, obscene underground of a culture."

[@DellDuckfan313]

Foucault, Said, Joseph Conrad, plenty of gothic horror writers, Alan Moore... Maybe not as directly, but this obsession with the forbidden and obscene seems to me EXACTLY Western.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@DellDuckfan313 Obsession, fascination -- or confrontation and condemnation?

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@DellDuckfan313 Still, great point to bring up, to ponder.

[@dansonoflightning2277]

​@@DellDuckfan313Said is considered Western?

[@VortexGaming1121]

Can someone explain what Chomsky claimed about Zizek and what Zizek's response was as I find it hard to follow Zizek cause of his ticks etc

[@vaxxyourass3436]

Ues please

[@ninjack6979]

an article was published in current affairs calling zizek a racist (i would advise reading the article for context, im sure theres more to it than that). the editor of current affairs is nathan robinson, a friend and admirer of Chomsky. zizek claims Chomsky is somehow responsible. Not sure if he was joking/using hyperbole.

[@spurezurko]

Žižek for the jugular!

[@Oliver_without_a_twist]

There's no cc

[@matthewanderson6559]

Chomsky has been obliviously working hard to manufacture consent for years.

[@caspar_gomez]

zizek won in the long game he proved he's a better man

[@earlybird-sb8mh]

I'm worried about Slavoj I wonder what is the origin of his constant nervous tics. Did he experience tear gas exposure? Perhaps in his years of protests? I truly admire Slavoj's philosophical analysis.

[@martynblackburn1977]

Who is the man askign the questions? He is very beautiful.

[@theamici]

Political correctness is not at all a western phenomenon only. The type of political correctness we have in the west, is by its definition typical of the west. But political correctness manifests itself in other countries as well, just around different topics. There are things you cannot say in open political discourse, the reasons why may not be about progressivism, as is often the case in the west, but instead draw its power from tradition, conservatism, religion, nationalism/ethnic supremacy etc. It's the political correctness of a pre-progressive and sometimes pre-democratic era.

[@annasawicka4096]

What you're talking about is taboo, not political correctness. The latter refers to specific phenomenon on the West tied to progressivism

[@cold-warfool7512]

Can someone please referred Zizek a good Otolaryngology specialist! Thanks

[@Rafalgahr]

I think he also needs allergy medicine, he sounds like I used to in Spring when I was a kid and pollen was floating everywhere...

[@takerdust]

from his tourette's ticks he grabs his ear and nose so much that he probably causes his own inflammation.

[@sergiosaucedo5834]

I would say a neurologist as this seems like a neurological condition.

[@vampireducks1622]

I'd recommend actually reading the article in question: www.currentaffairs.org/2019/10/what-is-zizek-for

[@mitchie2267]

From a Chomskyite rag.

[@itsbazyli]

I can't believe how manipulative this article is in trying to portray him in the worst possible light. The part cited at beginning definitely isn't Zizek's best or most coherent work - I fully agree here. But then he shows that passage to his friends in order for them to assess him as a philosopher? Really? Based on a single, playful rambling about the nature of universe that has nothing to do with 99% of his work? And then it goes on to saying things like "he supported Trump", when what he was actually saying in the linked video, is that having Trump as president might be a good wake up call for democrats - and that in that sense it might possibly be a good thing for the US. He even acknowledges that might be dangerous, due to him having the power to appoint Republican Supreme Court justices. That's hardly "supporting" Trump - lol. Clicking on the sources that the article cites, and anyone will soon realize that either the opposite to what was claimed is true, or that whatever was alleged, was debunked. The article was clearly written in bad faith and it bares no journalistic integrity whatsoever. The author should be ashamed. But thanks for the link.

[@Karadjordje2]

Will he ever explain whats going on with his nasal cavity?

[@happychey13]

Chomsky, while being a decent introduction to radical leftism, nonetheless epitomizes left anti-communism that has become so popular in the last half-century. Zizek suffers from a similar problem, but at least he has offered a thought-provoking theory of ideology which recognizes how the mere revelation of empirical truths is not sufficient in terms of bringing one to think outside of ideology.

[@felipedaiber2991]

He also has a picture of stalin in his house just to piss people off

[@Mahaveez]

I follow him despite being diametrically and militantly opposed to communism, because his insights are utterly beyond what most people are capable of. Thank the Peterson v Zizek debate for convincing me to listen to his bits of subversive brilliance.

[@elendiel]

​@@Mahaveez Exactly, growing up in a post-communist country and suffering the consequences, I wonder if it is really worth it for Zizek to call himself communist, which he actually isn't (certainly not in the traditional sense)!

[@theelectricant98]

@@elendiel he is a communist, you just have a narrow vision for what communism means

[@elendiel]

​@@theelectricant98 While that might certainly be the case (I've only read some of Marx and Zizek), one version of what communism was (in the Soviet union and eastern Europe) was so terribly destructive, that it is tough to decouple that from the term itself (just in common use in language). By the way, Zizek himself said in some of his speeches: "I am only communist in the sense that I care about the common thing.". Can you recommend any authors (apart from Zizek), who might expand my knowledge on a reasonable version of communism? Would love to read more, since I am certainly a leftist!

[@fodsaks]

Would you like a cup of coffee, Slavoj? (Half an hour later) Was that a yes or a no?

[@Shamino1]

He wants it without cream across the street, and without milk across the other street.

[@l3p3]

I don't need yes or no but why yes and why no.

[@Shmancy_pants_69]

And so on and so on

[@MubYus]

I do ,nt understand what profesor Zezek is talking about.

[@AA-dv3ie]

It is quite remarkable that Antonio Escohotado describes Marx to write the way Zizek speaks, so Engels had to write down Marx's thoughts.

[@_Sam_-zh7sw]

If Chomsky was only 15 years younger we would have seen Chomsky debate with Jordan Peterson & Sam Harris which i really wished was possible.....Zizek vs Peterson was kind of something i already know they would agree and disagree on....no surprises there.

[@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081]

I"m really confused; can someone explain to me what does Chomsky have to do with this? I'm being sincere.

[@GayTier1Operator]

CaligulaTheBaneOfSenatorsAndSmiterOfNeptune chomsky has spoken on zizek twice and one of the times he explained that there was nothing of substance in his work and that it’s too murky and academic to have any meaning. he went on to say that the only clear parts were when he was being vaguely misogynist and racist. so it’s likely chomsky, who is friends w current affairs, helped bolster that notion. yet it’s chomsky who is out here saying vote for biden. interesting lol

[@johnnonamegibbon3580]

​@@GayTier1Operator Chomsky seems to have a mental block in accepting that races are tribal and different and sex is real and makes men and women distinct.

[@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081]

@Adrian Simmlekark What does that have to do with racism?

[@declaringpond2276]

@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 Theres your racism, its the tankies who also hate jews. Yikes on that guys reply

[@declaringpond2276]

@Adrian Simmlekark Oh fuck me, i looked into your replies and what do I find "its natural to be attracted to children"

[@TheAnikeenko]

And so on, and so on.

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

I hate when my fathers fight

[@asdfghjk6493]

Zizek vs Chomsky 2: Electric boogaloo

[@felipedaiber2991]

Some say it is Lenin Vs Makhno 3 the rise of the jedi

[@asdfghjk6493]

@@felipedaiber2991 nah Chomsky isn't even anarchist anymore from what I've heard lol

[@heyguysinternet]

Not very much of this clip has to do with Chomsky. Kind of a sensationalist video title.

[@mirsad96]

Or you are not bright enough to realize the whole video is about Chomsky

[@Vingul]

@@mirsad96 it is not.

[@aiutocostonome]

Zizec will never be able not to touch his face with hands, not even in covid time

[@harry123_h9]

Ironic location for his condemning of PC - TCD ground zero of political correctness in Ireland.

[@Dragonogrado]

Whenever I cannot sleep I love listening to Chomsky. He invented the drone.

[@emmettwalz]

Christ, you got that spot on! The most boring speaking of ANY public speaker i have ever heard, despite his content often being very courageous, and insightful. He's very difficult to listen to! He always sounds utterly bored with himself. Bored to death!

[@IzabelParis]

I actually literally fell asleep when I went to a talk by him. I looked fwd to it for months only to fall asleep 15mins into it .

[@bleachwolf6936]

@@IzabelParis hahahahahaha omg

[@tugger]

@@johnmulligan455 s a l t

[@suertod]

It's the opposite for me, I absolutely love the way he speaks

[@poi2lkj3mnb]

I've watched hundreds of hours of Chomsky, he is brilliant. He is also shockingly arrogant and disrespectful. When asked about Zizak, Chomsky once replied that there was nothing there to respond too. Zizak's accusation seems not only reasonable but likely.

[@KingslayerSrb]

He is also dead wrong on some things and refuses to correct himself, despite all the evidence. I haven't followed him recently, but for years he was big on old Yugoslavia's version of communism, which is downright insulting to all of us who lived through it. The image he paints (or painted, like I said, I don't know if he's still talking about it) is a false one, and one simply doesn't know from where to start in explaining how false it is

[@danieljobs9598]

@@KingslayerSrb Chomsky refuses to change his mind when he's wrong. He's been that way all his life. Look how he's fallen into the far far left ideology and never criticizes it. It's quite sad.

[@MassDefibrillator]

@@KingslayerSrb "but for years he was big on old Yugoslavia's version of communism, which is downright insulting to all of us who lived through it. " Care to give some evidence of this?

[@ImranSahir1]

Slavoj so on and so on Zizek.

[@SimonSozzi7258]

10:23 He has to pause because he was about to say "our Culture"... Sorry I don't agree with him here. I agree that nothing should be off the table but with this point he's just oversimplifying. There are cultures. Not one single culture in most countries. Here in the US we have many cultures. We also have a decent amount of serial killers not to mention mass shootings, but at the same time there are communities in the US where all of that is so foreign.

[@rjmoney9]

Agreed, a lot of oversimplifying going on he is

[@rjmoney9]

Here*

[@babyyoda3118]

That’s right! And this is the reason why social construction doesn’t work! It doesn’t matter how much our goverment push their agenda on diversity or womens right! We are still the same as if you are born in a country were women are stoned if they get raped and you are infidel if you don’t have the right religion!

[@hotstixx]

Love Slavoj but this really isn't Chomsky's style at all.After half a century and more of criticism from the left,the center and the right,i think Chomsky might understand the value,weight and use of criticism.To suggest he has succumbed to the temptations of Iago at this late stage seems a little rich to say the least.That Nathan might have written the piece in order to please the 'Father', in no way necessitates the sanction of Chomsky. This kind of thing has always been one of the problems of the left - When we are not having purity competitions,we are circling the wagons and shooting inwards.

[@burjaivan]

Slavoj was joking about Chomskys involvement. He doesnt think he had anything to do with the article

[@shidoink]

@@burjaivan what makes you say that? It seemed sincere to me.

[@burjaivan]

@@shidoinkit's obvious that chomsky isnt behind anything, and of course slavoj knows that. thats why he said at the beginning that it makes him sad but not for the reasons he might think implying he didnt bite the medias effort to start a fight based on nothing. afterwards then he started to joke how he has his stalin spyes and they told him it was chomsky. he even emphefised that it was ironic because we live in such times that you have to explane obvious ironic jokes.

[@_smhmd]

@@burjaivan You're just speculating; nothing is obvious.

[@burjaivan]

@@_smhmd do you think that Chomsky and Žižek dont have anything other to do than plotting against each other? After all of their moral rekord? And especialy Chomsky whos over 90 years old? And if yes, do you think that Žižek is that naive to think that? Chomsky thinks Zizek's intellectual contributions are not concrete nor relevant, and thats something totally different, and Žižek knows that.

[@ShamanBuddhaDread]

Common sense on the whole; a rare thing these days.

[@Rompelstaump]

Thanks captain obvious. Could you be more vague?

[@ShamanBuddhaDread]

@@Rompelstaump What a silly little man you are.

[@Rompelstaump]

@@ShamanBuddhaDread - Yes. Silly is what I was going for. The purpose of my statement was to poke fun at the ridiculous nature of your original "hot take". Derrr...common sense... derrr

[@ShamanBuddhaDread]

@@Rompelstaump You must be one of those troll types with too much time on their hands. 'Ridiculous' seems rather hyperbolic here, wouldn't you agree? Nice use of hot take. I like it.

[@sirloksley7772]

Could we not just all agree on the Sustainable Development Goals for example ? And then as progressives try to gain power and leverage through unity to overcome this highly corrupted world economic system ? Such debates are entertaining. But in the situation in which we are now they appear to be intellectual and theoretical wanking

[@jonassalk2516]

Alex Loks Masturbation of the Mind As for raising class consciousness... the schism is due to > An over confident middle class taking over the left, who celebrate immigration without realising they are useful idiots for the corporations... this same middle class left reprogram the left with soft capitalism and a more diverse bourgeoisie... they also patronise and condescend the working class who disagree with them... I think the middle class left subconsciously despise the working class... much like the right, who are at least honest and conscious of their hatred... Immigration (modern day cheap labour) and globalisation are the big issues... ask Brexit and Trump and Johnson... Sorry but class consciousness is a long way away... so we might as well mentally masturabte... PS... a note to the Prosseco Brigade... stop calling white homeless people privileged... no amount of mental gymnastics is gonna convince me of that...

[@sirloksley7772]

​@@jonassalk2516 Thank you from liberating me from my silly illusions. And teaching me the word mental masturbation.

[@karlrogers2175]

Good to be reminded why one should never bother reading comments on KZbin videos.

[@BobLoblaw23]

Lol. It’s not fashionable to be against the USA, it’s logic.

[@BobLoblaw23]

@@markotasevski6763 China will rule the world

[@BobLoblaw23]

@@markotasevski6763 no problem. Tbey dont run shit anyway.

[@BobLoblaw23]

@@markotasevski6763 relax you peasant. I live in #1 country in world. Why go there?

[@BobLoblaw23]

@@markotasevski6763 a decade for what? China already runs the world. Lol fucking peasant.

[@BobLoblaw23]

@@markotasevski6763 lol slavs will never own anything

[@GiantSandles]

“What did you think of this article calling you a racist reactionary?” (sniffling intensifies)

[@peterjonas4971]

Zizek is so compelling, smart and funny, and Chomsky is such a humorless sanctimonious arrogant peckerhead.

[@PalinuroRex]

His "information" on Mexico is from the 1990s....

[@toobalkain]

it's never just one Jew.

[@josipivackovic8372]

It would be fun to face Zizek with Chomsky in a discussion if Zizek could ever be coherent

[@nelsontragura1441]

He ignores weak traps from old people who are so insecured and have no real friends. When was the last time Chomsky got out of his house and visit another place not of his making?

[@janetbaggibiotelli2556]

Talking the truth.

[@radscorpion8]

Honestly if you read the Current Affairs article that made that accusation, its quite well written and makes pretty credible arguments (its free to read!). However on the claim that Slavoj is a racist, I found that to be a bit silly, as the author interpreted Zizek's belief that Pakistani muslims secretively embrace pedophilia as an indicator of racism. Maybe its just me, but racism ought to be a belief that certain races are flat out inferior. Yet here Zizek is specifically referencing a religious group from a particular geographic region. I don't see how that can be confused with race. It would have been nice if the author was more careful about his word choices, but I'm not sure if the modern progressive is now redefining this word to mean "any discriminatory behaviour against any group"; most probably its a kind of lazy reasoning where, Pakistani Muslims are brown and embrace pedophelia, therefore he thinks poorly of all brown people (??) But the rest of the article directly quotes from Zizek's works. So its hard to claim that they're making things up. They provide ample sources from interviews and books he's written. It seems like Zizek is sort of like, the common person's hero. He speaks in vulgar terms, makes funny jokes, has a disheveled appearance. He's against PC culture, which is probably a major reason why he has such a following. He also speaks in a vaguely unintelligible way that makes you think he's saying something profound. I think a lot of people will just listen based on the feeling that what they're hearing is important, without critically analyzing what it is that they're hearing and whether there is actually anything deep there. Honestly people can get really far based on reputation alone. Trump somehow became president even without any real qualifications. In theory its very plausible that Zizek could have obtained massive popularity with the public for similarly superficial reasons.

[@blackanarchicreacts]

Hegel believed that Africans are inherently equal but that they had produced nothing he could consider history, and that Queen Nzinga's monarchy in Angola was proof of the uncivilization of Africans. So was Hegel not racist? Belief in innate inferiority is not definitive of racism. There are such things as cultural racism, unconscious bias, dispositional racism etc. The medieval Christians considered Africans, Muslims and then New World natives to be religiously inferior, not biologically. Heidegger didn't believe in innate biological differences, but he was still an antisemite. Same for Mussolini. I mean I can go on and on

[@unbigoteenreda85]

prohiben hands to face. Slavoj Zizek: Houston have the problems

[@michaelhugman3604]

Nathan Robinson is a weasel. I believe he would be behind this. Thought Chomsky would be above such pettiness. but maybe not.

[@willybilly4402]

: apparently he's Micheal Hugman. And comment sections are for comments whether you like them or not. But that just may be a tenet of freedom of speech that you cannot comprehend. Or just save for yourself, while denying it to others. וואחד ערבי

[@xenoblad]

I mean he's making an empirical claim about what creates more radical right wingers. We don't have to settle for speculation. Are there sociologists and statisticians, who've made related studies who agree with him?

[@johannesbakker4330]

Solidarity is not based on mystical statements and obscure use of terms that are not clearly defined. I find Zizek interesting to read and hard to listen to since he seems to not be at all concerned about his health and likes to wander into "and so on" generalizations that are often misleading. In Sex and the Failed Absolute he does not explain why all versions of "the Absolute" have "failed" and precisely what that has to do with sexual reproduction and sexual intercourse as well as gender identities. Slavoj keeps getting invited to speak. But it is not clear why. There are amazing academic scholars who do very good, crystal clear work on the topics he lightly breezes over and yet they are only known to a small network. But people seem to buy Slavoj's book and he keeps generating new controversies with well-known thinkers. His use of Hegel and Lacan is repetitious. It is better to read Beiser on Hegel and carefully consider that Lacan was part of an intellectual scene in Paris that was unique and that will not easily be repeated in the 21st century (in part because France was trying to recover culturally and intellectually from defeat by the Nazis and from internal fascism after that military defeat).

[@JAMAICADOCK]

I think Chomsky's real beef, is over Zizek's critiques of anarchism. After Zizek made some disparaging remarks about anarchism, Chomsky started putting the boot in. Anarchists and Marxists, have a longstanding grudge.

[@silverdragon710]

Interesting. I never heard Zizek's critique of anarchy, but I'm with completely Chomsky on that.

[@karolusp.9741]

@@silverdragon710 he said that whenever he visited anarchist communities there's always this hidden council that acted as the true leaders while still maintaining a semblance of leaderless movement to the whole community. that way, this kind of leaderless anarchist community turned out to be much more opaque than your regular representative government.

[@gurjotsingh8934]

I knew it

[@a5dr3]

Chomsky doesn’t give a shit about this imposter.

[@Dr.Kananga]

People don't tolerate criminal behavior and especially if it's against minors, there's no religious or cultural alibi.

[@FratFerno]

It's funny how PWC, one of the biggest financial consulting companies, sponsors this interview. Perhaps Zizek is so meandering and critical of the liberals that the accountants don't see him as a serious threat to capitalism.

[@andresherrera5247]

that'd imply that these firms have an ideological necessity to maintain capitalism, while actually, they'd much rather gain short term profits from an untapped market, proof of this are transationals selling communist books and memorabilia

[@kriptoniteXD]

Or maybe Accountants don´t give two tits about Political Philosophy. I worked in a big international bank and usually accountants are pretty down to earth.

[@Ross-nd6xi]

Its a debating society in trinity college dublin

[@MassDefibrillator]

To paraphrase chomsky, if you're being welcomed by elites with open arms, then you're probably doing something wrong. This also goes for his common appearances on "big think", a Koch funded platform. I think Zizek is a bit of a distraction.

[@dagothtv1427]

Intellectuals could consider stop fighting one another. We need a little more 'circus' which may be mistaken for 'charlatanry'.

[@justink.2761]

For Chomsky, Žižek is no Intellectual

[@ForMindlessConsumption]

"Local indigenous Inuit or Native American whatever you call it, *girls* there."

[@dellamotta]

Who was the other besides Chomsky? Nate Robinson?