Dr. Venture Vs. Blue Morpho

[@connormclernon26]

I’m enjoying the fact that Billy would have been fanboying and doing whatever Jonas Sr. Told him to do in earlier episodes. Here he’s standing up to one of his greatest childhood heroes

[@CharlieBrown20XD6]

Um... either we have a psychic connection or you're some kind of secret agent copying and pasting my comments are you Skynet what is this

[@connormclernon26]

I just posted that of my own volition.

[@xtzyshuadog]

Connor McLernon *my little WATER BABY*

[@milesc4175]

Yes, and suddenly Jonas is a supervillain; it's almost like bad writing or something.

[@connormclernon26]

Miles C or rather, he’s been a world class asshole the whole time and this is the rest of the world waking up and realizing it

[@QuaziPhantom]

Sudden realization, the Monarch is the only living original Venture; Rusty and his boys are clones and other son is technically son of a clone.

[@jamescollinge5043]

Maybe, but Ben did say that freakish long eyebrows are a side effect of cloning. It's possible Malcolm died during the brief period he was with Rusty

[@ater3678]

@@jamescollinge5043 that would explain why he doesn't remember that day

[@SZRLM]

Well there is Dermont. But he's the original offspring of a cloned Rusty, while Hank and Dean are clones of the offspring of a cloned Rusty.

[@detsalb5789]

It's also why doc looks so deteriorated stress does a lot but you'd think years of running climbing and escaping bad guys would leave you with a bit of lean muscle even in his older years

[@CarsonWolford]

@QuaziPhantom the new movie just retconned your comment

[@TheTrueGlaukos]

I still can't believe that they kept all their consistency right down to the Monarch's backstory in EPISODE 1. Plane crash and live among monarch butterflies. and yet that was a HUGE part of the Blue Morpho's backstory we couldn't have even possibly guessed back then. seriously great show in that aspect

[@connormclernon26]

I remember reading that the show creators go back and watch all their older episodes looking for things they can call back to later

[@ianfinrir8724]

@@connormclernon26 They've also used the fan wiki to keep from retconning too much.

[@HanzoHatt]

It would be nice if there could of been a esp where Malcolm could of talked with his dad/mom more or just figured out what all was going on with him and the whole BM, rusty and other things.

[@jffry890]

You need to pick up their show bible and give it a read. It's like $1000 or some insane number, though.

[@westerling8436]

a consistently great show from the first to last episode

[@F343x2]

You know, if Jonas had been a little more patient and communicative, Rusty could have gotten the lab up, then both Blue Morpho and Jonas could have had their bodies back.

[@geordiejones5618]

Jonas wanted revenge for BM trying to kill him, no doubt, plus I think he was too much of a dick to care about his old friend. Its not like he cared about his own son all that much.

[@Commanderziff]

A few minutes before this Dwight damaged the PROBLEM with an axe. Jonas needs to get his brain into a new body ASAP.

[@spenserfarman3045]

We all know that no one would’ve been willing to give Jonas a new body no matter what the circumstances were. Billy didn’t want to kill the Blue Morpho because he’s trying to be a proper doctor and BM was way too furious at Jonas to be even remotely convinced to transfer his consciousness into the poor guys body.

[@vexxama]

Yeah, he was straight up going to kill his friend, again, just to temporarily have a body. The guy is a sociopath. Hell, because he grabbed him after he disconnected, he lost his only chance to have a body again all because he could only think of himself

[@SuperWolsey]

@@geordiejones5618 IF BM did it. There's still Bud Manstrong to consider

[@mastermindepsilon9517]

Dammit Jonas, couldn't even give the guy a couple minutes to talk to his son

[@judai24]

Kinda shows how hes an asshole I mean the dude had to bring back his dead friend to show that he could he used a tape to black mail his so called friend more then likely is the monarchs father and wants them to kill his friend again just so he can live again and probably clone a new body for himself so he can be an egotistical ass hole all over again

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

That he just throws out his "best friend" after he losses interest. No funeral or nothing. Fuck it. He goes straight to garbage pile.

[@DaFro3713]

To be fair, Jonas Venture is a massive piece of shit

[@Renkencen]

Did you forget the other douche stuff he did before this episode? Example like leaving a bunch of orphans in the bunker during that gas attack, abuse and neglect Rusty (letting him test dangerous proto rides, kidnap and ignore his woes) and pretty much have affiar with multiply married women!

[@salvadorenoify]

His adopted son, because Marlon is the son of jonas

[@maozedong1913]

I am very impressed at how fast Rusty went from "Oh my god, is that my dad that mysteriously disappeared all those years ago without a trace when I was only 18 and have been left wondering for the past 40 years what happened ?" to an annoyed " that's called wifi dad wifi sigh"

[@KittSpiken]

Fun

[@suchiuomizu]

Well, when the dad in question is Jonas…

[@connormclernon26]

At least Blue Morpho died as himself

[@Marauder224]

last words he heard was his son saying "Dad".

[@eternallegacy89]

@@Marauder224 I didn't hear Malcom saying that o.O.

[@connormclernon26]

@@eternallegacy89 Blue Morpho died free and with the knowledge that his son was still alive.

[@eternallegacy89]

@@connormclernon26 his son? You mean Dr. Ventures son?

[@connormclernon26]

@@eternallegacy89 And who actually raised him? I imagine that given a choice between his birth father and the father that raised him, Malcolm would choose Blue Morpho. Especially given how emotional he was at the end when he realized who Vendata was

[@Gojiro7]

In the end, The Blue Morpho took down the greatest super villain of all.....the man he thought was his best friend.

[@Tangent_Pixel]

I think the best part about this plot twist is that they made it so believable that we weren't really surprised as much as amused... after 7 seasons, finding out that Jonas was pretty much a supervillain was like, "Yeah... I shoulda seen that coming..." I mean the Venture crew were never really morally sound people to begin with. The show always felt like "heroes and villains" were just two groups of rich superscientist assholes terrorizing the world with their feud...

[@sithspitdanikan4725]

I honestly enjoy the fact that they make a point in the later season(s) to show that even those who are "villians" still love their kids.(Wide Whale, someone else i'm not remembering rn, etc) Jonas did not. He didn't give a fuck about Rusty, and it's actually sad.

[@ninaharjo996]

Another good example would be the Red Death. He really loves his daughter.

[@ronweaslee7065]

Red Death could be another example you were thinking of.

[@DemonicAdj]

​@@ronweaslee7065 Red Death is THE example.

[@kryptonianotaku4975]

@@DemonicAdjexactly he was a bad guy but wasn’t a Bad guy

[@jamesb1988]

The way they portrayed Jonas as an admirable super scientist and all around hero on the surface, yet as time went we all realized that he was actually a selfish, petty manchild who only cared about others based on how they could benefit him....which in turn makes us look at Rusty and realize that he's actually pretty damn well adjusted, all things considered. Think back to when you first started watching show, Jonas seemed like an awesome father and yet we have cynical Rusty, why is he so negative?? Now we know! Dean is essentially going through all the phases his Dad went through. The writing on this show is incredible...the fact that they pulled off doing so many callbacks (movie night, PROBLEM, Action's Stroke, Vendetta, Dr. Dugong, etc.) is proof that Hammer and Publick are geniuses. One more thing that perfectly defines Jonas...the conversation with Rusty in this video. First conversation between father and son in 20 years, any love or compassion? NOPE. Help me kill my old blackmail victim so I can take his body until we can regrow mine! That's Jonas in a nutshell, not sad to see him go!

[@aawallace98]

thats the thing thou they stilll have his head so he may come back

[@thegunslinger8806]

@@aawallace98 well we saw his head fall off so its possible there's more to be done there, AS did green light the show for like two more seasons and I'm guessing they can get a few more out of this show before they develop everyone well enough that that can end it.

[@thegunslinger8806]

@@aawallace98 another things they could use now that I think of it is Jonas transmitting his consciousness into the web through Rusty's watch and patiently waiting until he can find a new body. Plus we still don't know who opened the air lock on Gargantua.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@thegunslinger8806 I think it was Manstrong, because he's way too much of a prude for Sharky's Machine

[@OriginalLonelygstar]

@@thegunslinger8806 VENDATA aka THE BLUE MORPHO!!

[@caw1539]

the entire series, Jonas is shown as a narcissist and it really culminates here, but with one added feature: it becomes apparent that the only thing jonas really feared was being permanently dead

[@coruscant100]

To quote Bruce Wayne in Batman Bryond, "You don't cheat death. You whimper in fear of it." That sums up Jonas Venture. A man who's that terrified of death and finds a way to cheat it.

[@samanthamoore4551]

Was it just me, or did Dr. Venture senior kinda smile when he saw the Monarch? Like "Oh, Right I have a son that's not a clone! So you're here too!"

[@SuperWolsey]

That wasn't a smile.... more of a "oh shit! You survived?!?"

[@thegreatzoom5073]

Malcolm probably is a clone, assuming he died in the crash like his parents. He was on the plane too in the flashback.

[@MrKingJson]

@@thegreatzoom5073 he didn't die, his parents did but he survived and lived among butterflies.

[@Ben-jl2rh]

Well, I'm here after watching the movie. Turns out The Monarch is a Clone of the Original Rusty Venture. Jonas put a Clone embryo inside the Blue Morpho's wife, which turned out to be the Monarch. Which makes The Monarch & Rusty clones of each other and not really half brothers like everyone was presuming. It also turns out that the Monarch has 2% Baboon DNA, which made him more aggressive, somewhat territorial, and prevented him from going prematurely bald like Rusty. Jonas also very likely shot down the Blue Morphos plane to get rid of him & claim the bounty on his head, the fact that The Monarch survived the crash & life is a testament to his survivability. It was said that The Monarch was Clone #21 of Rusty, thus making Rusty Clone #20, meaning that the original Rusty Venture & 19 Clones most likely died, which explains Rusty's lapse in memories & not knowing or remembering everything that happened to him which is the same thing that happens to Hank & Dean. If anything, this just makes the series that much better & it goes full circle only this time it will truly end.

[@TheDude8008]

Damn, jonas was this mythic character that everybody idolized at the beginning, yet when we knew what he did we became more interested and rooted for Blue Morpho and his "son", this series was capable of making all its characters main characters. Go Team Venture.

[@Calekoflight]

The best and saddest part? The world at large still idolizes Jonas Venture. Only those close to these events have even half a clue of just how bad he really was. Most of how truly awful he was is just for the audience.

[@jonathansotelo4877]

Go Team Morpho? Monarch would shape the hands like hearts but insist it's a butterfly.

[@SuperMrHiggins]

Go Team Venture!

[@Bluedino152]

I just realized, over god knows how many years rusty never knew the actual name of his arch.

[@Mr_Boss_Smile]

took monarch awhile to know who gary is

[@nannou1]

Rusty's known Malcolm since college.

[@davisbowe8668]

I love Rusty's general disdain for The Monarch when he shows up. He doesn't show fear or hatred for the man, just mild annoyance.

[@DemonicAdj]

Even The Monarch knows on some level that whatever he can do to Rusty, life has already done it to him.

[@smartalec2001]

Funny how this all works out, isn't it? We've got a butterfly-costumed gadgeteer with a secret identity, whose arch enemy turns out to be Doctor Venture. And then, besides them, we have Rusty and the Monarch.

[@invaderHUNK]

I’m a bit late, but this comment is so poetic 👌

[@keirgomcginlay2044]

Heh. A butterfly themed supervillain and his scientist hero archnemesis, and a butterfly themed superhero and his scientist villain archnemesis.

[@Drellistenstomusic]

I don't think Jonas is dead. OSI is already rubbing their hands over getting the brain. I daresay we've not seen the last of the late Dr. Venture.

[@SpadaccinoLuciano]

If a fall from space didn't destroy the PROBLEM, I don't think this will.

[@rcketfield7404]

Drellistenstomusic would you say they’d turn dr venture into a think tank; getting knowledge, and etc of future inventions to eventually over take the guild of calamity or will they perform venture to be their own vendetta

[@phenomenallion4420]

Rcketfield knowing venture Sr he’ll probably make give them plans to build another body or something that gives him control over someone’s body and rename the plans so they’ll be none the wiser

[@cunningsmile4166]

Even Gathers isn't that nuts

[@SuperODST1]

Not even the last of the Blue Morpho either.

[@Corrderio]

It still amazes me how much development they put into Jonas from being some kind of god among men to being an absolute monster over the seasons.

[@MajorZero61]

Honestly, the my favorite part of the scene is the way James Urbaniak delivers the "...dad?" line after he hears Jonas' voice for the first time in way too long. For such a short line, he delivers the exact combination of shock, confusion, relief, anger, resentment and every other conflicting emotion in the right amount that Rusty would have after seeing his dad somehow alive.

[@quinnimon]

Jonas getting all DIO Brando on us bois

[@theemeraldblonde218]

Dio was evil because he liked it

[@Cptbravo221]

@@theemeraldblonde218 and he was pretty honest in being an asshat

[@BorikeTheBlackDragon]

Jonas didn't have any humanity to reject

[@lolrus5555]

Jonas: AND WELCOME TO YOU, *MY NEW, ETERNAL BODY!!!*

[@FizzyPopVevo]

I recall blue morpho isn’t jonas’s brother.

[@SuperWolsey]

"NOOOOOOOOO!!!! 👿👿👿👿 You blue bastard!....dontruinthisforme.... I'm this CLOSE!!" You ruined yourself, Jonas.

[@TBrizzle01]

No one seems to be commenting on the fact that after stealing Blue Morpho's body, he'd probably go after Rusty's body given that he's his son.

[@claytopolis]

probably. once he finds out the cloning tech is gone and the OSI doesnt want him to have it back

[@battlesheep2552]

Like he'd want that wreck. Probably better to just build a cloning machine from scratch

[@FredrickTesla]

Actually I feel like Hank is much more in danger here. Young, athletic, and in Jonas' eyes he probably sees him as a shiftless simpleton, not much of a loss.

[@atlas_of_prescottia]

I think you mean, given that he's his *clone*.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

No, if you listen to him talk he says that he is going to work with Rusty to get the cloning program back up. Of course they would have to build from scratch but it would take long with Jonas running the show. He may even be able to accelerate the growth of a Clone body.

[@Ando1428]

Malcom fitzcarraldo is the monarchs full name. Fits.

[@tartlynerdy]

Lol right? I wonder if that means his wife will start calling herself Mrs. Fitzcarraldo instead of mrs. The monarch

[@Crescentknight8189]

tarts n sweets nope. God willing her real name is Simmons

[@Ando1428]

@@Crescentknight8189 her name is Sheila though. Making her name Sheila Fitzcarraldo. Well thats if she doesnt use her own last name hyphenated.

[@cunningsmile4166]

I'm betting not

[@PryGuyStudios]

And Malcom venture since technically he's Jonas's son as well

[@MichelleAnnM]

And Jonas Sr. finally blossoms into the villain we all knew he was already...

[@SkaldicArts]

After so many years, we finally have a real name for the Monarch!

[@alfredhinton8792]

They told us his name was Malcolm during the flashback when he was in college in the council of 13 quiery

[@SkaldicArts]

True but I mean his full name

[@michaeliv284]

We already knew it was Malcolm What we never knew was he was a venture

[@salvadorenoify]

@@alfredhinton8792 malcolm venture

[@scottbruckner4653]

@@michaeliv284 I'm gonna use the wise words of Yondu. "That man might have been your daddy, but he sure as hell wasn't your father."

[@taraalexander8689]

The moment when Jonas yells out "NO!!!" is very chilling...

[@SuperWolsey]

"You... blue bastard.. Dontdothistome!"

[@Bacxaber]

@@SuperWolsey *Don't ruin this for me

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

That’s what decades of solitude do to you.

[@potahtwah9591]

I like how everyone loves Jonas, and Rusty has lost his shit over his death, and when he comes back, Billy learns and Rusty remembers, that Jonas Venture is kind've a prick when you get to know him.

[@korystephens3318]

Billy would've been disappointed and bemused by Jonas had the events of Gargantua-1 never happened

[@MrRiddler6]

this was interesting as this was the unveiling of the real Jonas Venture. As this what everyone spoke of very highly with the greatest respect. only to find out he was a really terrible person on the inside who constantly under minded his peers, betrayed their trust by sleeping with his team members wives (Corneal Gentlemen's and Blue Morpho's), black mailing them to do thing for him and being a terrible parent to Rusty. we originally thought it was jealously that Rusty hated his dad but it more resentment as he is the only one who saw Jonas for who he was and didn't wanted to be nothing like him.

[@SuperWolsey]

Considering Horace, Tara's mom was his beard not to mention they probably got together sometime when she was a toddler

[@spyrofan9681]

I like how Billy talks back to Venture senior

[@aidas52]

He's a true Doctor after all What impressed me that even he is a fan he is still keeping his hypocratic oath

[@DemonicAdj]

​@aidas52 His Oath was important enough for him to stand up to Brock, of all people.

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

Malcolm and Rusty, the true Venture bros Oh and Jonas Jr, the Jonas brother

[@SuperWolsey]

Technically JJ (& to a small degree Tara Qyuim) would be the genetically engineered Dermott to Rusty and Malcolm's Hank and Dean

[@keatonkitsune4064]

I'm just upset that there was no episode dealing with how the Monarch thought of this. Otherwise great great season, leading into the next one.

[@Spubl]

yeah... about that...

[@keatonkitsune4064]

@@Spubl I heard. Likely it'll become an HBO max exclusive if they continue it.

[@alaskanreaper129]

@@keatonkitsune4064 It’s on HBO Max rn, hopefully they go more into this in the movie.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@alaskanreaper129 if the movie is the last thing they ever make their won’t be time.

[@AznOmega]

Spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . . . Turns out The Monarch is actually a clone of Rusty, but with some baboon DNA. He does freak out about it, but after talking to his wife, he chooses to continue his arching towards Rusty, calling himself Rusty's better self or something along those lines.

[@Hiro_Ramone]

I really feel bad for Monarch here, like, he heard his actual name in like, what, YEARS?! And he tries to grasp Blue Morpho for an explanation so desperately while Jonas HAD to try kill him...

[@Supperdude9]

This was one of the biggest moments of the show, that tied up just about everything. Everything led up to this point. All the call backs, all the backstories, all the history, what you thought were throwaways. Everything came together for this moment.

[@jerelcheek5112]

I love how Rusty and the Monarch, AKA Malcom, hugged each other when they were both falling. Like in those cartoon shows and movies when the characters fall together.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

Like a wacky Situation of a ep of ducktales

[@rebelliousreptile7336]

I honestly wish there was another season with Jonas and the blue morpho in it. I'd love it, just seeing how rusty would be adjusting to his dad back and how everyone else would adjust and recognise how evil he was. While the monarch and his dad team up to defeat both ventures. Would have been fantastic

[@EpicFableBean]

nah its fitting this way

[@connormclernon26]

Anyone else think it would be poetic justice if OSI turned Dr. Venture into something like Vendata?

[@connormclernon26]

Instrumentality1000 except Rusty still seems to be attached to him in spite of everything that’s happened to him

[@theemeraldblonde218]

Connor McLernon well Rusty didn't have a mother. His father was everything to him

[@TheCockeyez]

@@theemeraldblonde218 Rusty never had a mother because he is a clone, revealed in the latest episode.

[@keatonkitsune4064]

Or maybe not, it's not clear whether Rusty is a clone or just a science experiment.

[@Hanja45]

Keaton Kitsune But what about Jonas Venture Jr.

[@vexxama]

When it comes full circle that jonas was a narcissistic sociopath who only happened to do good things as long as he was having a good time he was literally going to kill the man he kept screwing over and used to call his friend just to get a body that he admitted would be temporary

[@irregulargamer1352]

Exactly. Jonas could have honestly just have been patient and waited for a fresh clone body but would have rather killed his friend and taken his body all for the sake of comfort and/or more control.

[@SuperWolsey]

@@irregulargamer1352 only OSI put paid to all that when they confiscated the cloning equipment

[@arandomguy7654]

This was the moment Jonas Sr. Went from comedic sociopath to just sociopath.

[@DeathSithe92]

I was more interested in the possible plot of The Monarch finally seeing his father and finding out the whole history of his family and everything, Im a bit let down all he got was a smile and only a possible whispering voice in the back of his head that that was his father, no closure.

[@hue_jazz59]

I know exactly what you mean . it broke my heart when we didnt get that resolution, but I'm sure this is all gonna come back around soon .

[@LetralXIV]

I like Rick and Morty, but when it comes to producing a shock factor, it doesn't have shit on the Venture Bros. It tries, but the most it's gotten out of me was "Hah, that's fucked up!" But this episode...this shit legitimately blew my mind. I had fucking nightmares about this that night when I went to sleep.

[@assassinferretproject5121]

To me it’s sad. The Blue morphs said his sons name until Jonás won’t let him have a father and son moment

[@grimfin3214]

I just noticed the little detail that Monarch has his ornamental wings on rather than us functional ones, to explain why he doesn’t try to fly after being launched into the air

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

But didn’t he fly in with his functional wings at 0:37?

[@bet3240]

@@Randomyoutuber-4831 he glided.

[@nyotamwuaji6484]

The explosion might have damaged the wings

[@DemonicAdj]

​@@bet3240He fell with style.

[@MultiRokusho]

Its weird when you realize had they all not freaked out they could of just cloned up a body for both Jonas and blue Morpho. Then again Jonas not being completely insane after being a head stuck in a machine and just thinking of what immediately benefits him is in character.

[@michaelpara8582]

Nice detail that the tech in Dr ventures body is so old it can only communicate on the 2.4 ghz

[@faustalexander2585]

I'll admit I have conflicted feelings about this episode. On one side it was nice to get all this backstory about Jonas and the Blue Morpho. But on the other hand, I expected him to have been an awful father but at least a good superscientist and someone that embodied the ideals he preached of "Hope, Love and Superscience". It's sad to see he wasn't even able to live up to his ideal and was instead a narcissistic and egotistical madman who was more fitting as a founder of the Guild of Calamitous Intent than a superscientist. I thought he at least was a good leader to his team but it seems he couldn't even be a good friend.

[@gingerfeliciano9531]

rewatching the series all the signs were there that he was an asshole. I knew he did something terrible but yes this was heart breaking.

[@StayEzay2]

Even his own team thought he was an asshole. I thought kano was his bodyguard because of the osi. I didnt know he waa bargained for. Wtf

[@InfamousResult]

It's kind of funny; Kano said he took a great man from this world, so of course it couldn't have been Jonas.

[@Ando1428]

Well if youve been listening to rusty that illusion was supposed to break a long time ago. I mean sure rusty was sick of his dad but the things hed say werent unfounded.

[@Ando1428]

@@InfamousResult true action man said he hadnt spoken since.

[@martinaxe6390]

Anyone else think that Jonas already had the clone program created when Blue Morpho died, but instead made him a cyborg to control him. We saw Blue Morpho was pushing back against Jonas and his blackmailing. I'm suspecting Jonas killed Blue Morpho by sabotaging his plane. Jonas then decided to turn Blue Morpho into a cyborg so he could still use him.

[@jamesb1988]

That's a good theory!! Also plays into why Team Venture was so disgusted when they found out he had rebuilt Blue Morpho as a robot...they obviously didn't have an issue with extending life in a synthetic matter (agreeing to place Jonas in the PROBLEM), but they knew that Jonas only revived BM to be his personal puppet. I think BM had recovered the sex tape and was about to expose Jonas for the greaseball he was, that's why Jonas somehow caused plane crash. This would also explain how Vendetta was in possession of the tape on movie night!!

[@RyunosukeHachi]

There’s also what Rusty told Gary when Gary tried to have him clone 24; namely that while cloning was possible, they weren’t Star Wsrs style clones... Gary would have to raise his friend as a baby up to adulthood. Same applies here with trying to clone the Blue Morpho. Hank and Dean got off easy because their clones were made around the same time they were born, and the Learning Beds copies their last recorded memories.

[@JordanDavila]

I think sovereign and Jonas did it together

[@minatodroger7890]

Oh shit I feels it especially I owing rusty is a clone

[@lesvernornvienas8232]

Martin Axe that would explain why malcom was bever told his dad was a robot or anything

[@gavincarothers595]

1:10 The way that Jonas Venture screams Noooo!!! That's definitely spine chilling to the bone.

[@SuperWolsey]

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿😤😤👿👿😤👿😤👿👿😤"

[@Pearg0ld]

I like the meaning of both blue Morpho and venture Sr dragging their kids into their problems

[@Ratworks]

If youve watched since the pilot premiered, this moment felt so insane.

[@zerstorer335]

I find it amusing that Rusty is so unimpressed with talking to his "dead" father that he's got the wherewithal to get annoyed with him about using the term "WiFi". Back when they were dealing with the "IGNORE ME!!" guy, Rusty was all "but Papa, where have you been?" when he thought he was talking to his dad.

[@JackSilver1410]

That's perfectly valid, actually. Nearly a decade ago my sister called to tell me that our father had gone to the doctor and was informed that he was just missing about a liter of blood mysteriously (personally I think his new wife sucked it out, but that's a tale for another time) and there was this pall that the old man might be on his way out. Then I thought about it. This was the guy that caused us to be sent to bed early because no one wanted us to see how drunk and stoned our father was when he came home. This is the guy who was always away on "business trips" when he had to spend time in jail for any number of reasons. This was the guy so testosterone poisoned that he would go out of his way to pick fights with me when I was thirteen just so he could prove how "alpha" he was. This is the guy who moved to Minnesota for years, took a weekend trip back to Washington to play golf with his alcy friends, but stopping to see his own kids was never really part of the plan. The guy who would constantly pester me about when I'm going to have kids when my sister already has three that he just doesn't have time for. So yeah, you can absolutely go from "papa, where have you been?" to "man, fuck this guy, why the hell is he still clinging on to life?"

[@cesarvictoriano8072]

I just watched Shadowman 9, and I realized something: Jonas Venture Sr. is in some senses responsible for some of the misery everyone goes through or an important even: *Any* issues Rusty has(I’m not listing all of them) Besmirching the Blue Morpho’s reputation with the shit he made him do, along with probably giving the Monarch his homicidal tendencies, which in turn lead to Baron Underbeight losing his jaw in the crossfire of his first attempt to kill Rusty. A more stable and raised right Rusty would’ve been more likely to take in Billy and White, which would’ve at least delayed Phantom Limb’s birth, and let Brock and Gathers be able to look deeper into the Guild without being reassigned. All the lives ruined in the aftermath of Movie Night and the Pyramid Wars because of his dumbass idea to make it that easy to open the bay doors(a small protected button would’ve been so much more safe). The top comment is right, Jonas *is* the DIO of Venture Brothers, the legacy of his sins reaching even into the episodes with the least bit of connection to him. Go scream in Hell Jonas

[@origamipein18]

Yeah, you piece of shit. XC

[@Benthino]

Respect man.

[@deathxanamon7211]

Senior not Jr

[@SuperWolsey]

Church

[@SuperWolsey]

Also, the fact Hatred was the one who reassigned Brock and Gathers but didn't realize all of that would loop him back to square one w/ taking up Brock's role in Operation Rusty's Blanket (The ORB) and as bodyguard after Princess Tinyfeet abandons him

[@gamesux420]

This whole thing with dr venture and the blue morpho was fuckin crazy, literally blew my mind.

[@dtbradly]

All i know is if jonas was back he would likely take venture tower evict every one and rusty and the rest go back to the old compound with some tents or to spider skull island and some wacky stuff happens in the middle leading to the season finale were jonas gets killed and he may have cloned staff members working for him.

[@d.t.bradford3824]

Cloned in there clones of him just some random clone?

[@dtbradly]

@@d.t.bradford3824 clones of himself.

[@TheDayMang]

Amazing episode. Been waiting 15 years for this

[@YagMi6]

I don't know about you guys, but something about Jonas Venture Sr. and Blue Morpho's death is somewhat iconic. Here are two great men that has cheated death for so long with the help of science. When Death finally found those two, he wanted them back because they overstayed their lifetime. It's like something out of Final Destination in a way.

[@FizzyPopVevo]

YagMi6 what’s even more ironic that there false deaths and re-berthing took episodes minutes and were very suspenseful but their actual deaths were in the shadows and background

[@TheManWithNoNickname13]

Its iconic because its pretty much Doc Savage vs The Green Hornet in a great series.

[@doncoyote68]

I like how the Monarch and Rusty are saved from the fall by falling on the Boy Rusty Ballon, breaking it. Symbolically destroying the legacy of Dr Venture, they survive unscathed from what kills Dr Venture.

[@xtzyshuadog]

Loving The Venture Bros best animated American show for its lore

[@EuphoniousRequiem]

For "a show about failure," Billy makes considerable progress over the course of his character arc. They pretty much force him to operate on Dean after he gets testicular torsion. Billy is not a doctor, and openly admits that he has no idea what he's doing, but he still performs the operation successfully. Fast-forward to here, and he's a full-fledged neurosurgeon.

[@oMaJoJ]

So many characters have had growth moments that it's hard to take the line from 15 years ago seriously anymore.

[@ianfinrir8724]

​@@oMaJoJ It was mostly a throwaway line and fans kept repeating it like it was the Gospel while ignoring the other themes like doing something that you're passionate about despite the risks.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

The thing is, it is a show about failure, but it's also about the beauty in failure. These characters are later able to succeed exactly because they did fail and fail terribly.

[@DemonicAdj]

​@@rosesweetcharlotteFailure is what you do until you get it right. It's only a bad thing when you keep making the same failures over and over again.

[@tgi3d881]

Everyone just saw the legendary jonas venture and the original blue morpho fly away with their sons. And then we get a shot of malcolm and rusty holding each other

[@ReissSpangenberg4470]

Fun fact. This was the first episode I watched that got me into the series

[@kaliquis01010]

This clip might be one of the best clip I have seen of the show, mainly because (in my mind) I see it as a after death reunion of 2 friends/enemies with their sons, where most likely Monarch is biological son of Jonas Venture, because Blue Morpho was (most likely) infertile (which gives a whole new meaning of "Venture Brothers") Honestly, I love it. I might need to watch this whole show someday

[@m1n3craftPCtut0r1al]

Watch it now, it’s always a good day for venture bros. Maybe consider skipping the pilot because season one is iffy but I personally wouldnt

[@Xerdar36]

Jonah still might not be dead…. They got his brain on ice…

[@korystephens3318]

Unless Snoopy pulls a HYDRA, I don't see OSI reviving Jonas

[@georgethompson1460]

@@korystephens3318 Or if Jonas pulls a skynet...

[@DeadManTalking.]

I don't think he's dead. Jonas will probably pull a Dio on Blue Morphos body

[@VITAS874]

and they will talk like in the spider man comic where Octavius ​​took Peter's body 😁

[@chance1240]

The scene with the monarch and doc hugging each other while falling is when it hit me: yeah this show IS about the venture brothers.

[@yungwarcrimes]

I can't believe how long it took me to realize that The Monarch and Rusty have basically the same face

[@theduke7539]

whats funny is Jonas very much would have survived in the PRBLEM. He didnt need Vanturian to survive. He only wanted to use his body for a while until he was cloned.

[@SuperWolsey]

Even though OSI confiscated the equipment and no one can picture Hunter making an exception in letting him near it

[@theduke7539]

@kory stephens you really think they couldnt build it again?

[@dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189]

The Venture Brothers always seem to grab & throttle you quick, with some weirdo glitchy tech - or some a-hole showing up and screwing things up. Damn, I miss that series.

[@ProjectXA3]

And if Jonas had just cooled the fuck out and gotten them to rig up an antenna he could've been fine

[@bet3240]

He didnt even need to steal the blue morphos body to get a new one. His goal there was to kill him before word got out to the public of how crappy he was

[@DrakeDark18]

They must not teach the new cadets Morse code.

[@adattamenti_dr.girlfriend]

Dr Jonas Venture Sr is the real villan in the Venture Brothers franchise.

[@OmegaRedFan]

I think what he did with Blue Morpho/Venturia was his most egregious crime.

[@jacobgraemoor5778]

What's funny is I always thought the Monarch and Rusty looked super similar, to the point now when you know their brothers.

[@HyperGolem]

The deaths of Jonas and BM signify the ongoing theme of the show; The death of the atomic space age of the 20th century. Everything in the show's present time has been more or less about failure. The failure to live up to the standards of the ''golden age'' of 60s and 70s.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

But also the beauty in that failure. Do we really a world built around a utopia designed by a guy like Jonas?

[@quelltech]

@@rosesweetcharlotte as opposed to the world we have now, run by people with all Jonas' narcissistic sociopathy (and then some) and none of the super-science that allowed him to work around it at least part of the time?

[@stevenkies802]

Saved by Rusty Venture, Doc's and Monarch's most embarrassing moment.

[@assassinferretproject5121]

Jonas Venture is the real Villain of the story

[@devilred18]

Can we take happiness in the fact that the blue morpho killed Venture?

[@flygod1313]

Just a couple of kids and their dad hanging out.

[@Mr_Secondaries]

I kinda wish they extended the Jonas/morphos arch a little bit longer. It was pretty mind blowing 🤯

[@RicklessSanchez]

No more robocop talk just vigilante.

[@bryandavidson7375]

I like the fact he said rusty could help him get the cloning up and running. He's got some faith in his son

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Yes, he does have faith in Rusty and that's nice, but it also just shows how desperate he was. Rusty was all he had

[@colin8696908]

If you think about it, it was really Jonas that killed Jonas.

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

A clone killed the original

[@FinalFlashhGaming]

You know, considering that every one there would not have minded finding a robot to put his brain in instead of Blue Morphos, and it's not like they would have killed him there and then, all Jonas had to do was be patient, but he probably knew with Blue Morpho gaining his memories back, he probably would have had his legacy destroyed ontop of probably being thrown into some OSI prison

[@gingerfeliciano9531]

1:01 SADNESSSS

[@lolrus5555]

Ginger Feliciano I know... I feel so bad for the guy :(

[@jessicabrickey7834]

Damn, Who knew Jonas venture went mad.

[@nhjo]

He wasn't insane, per se; he was always a really terrible dude.

[@aretnap3653]

The Venture Brothers...that Never Knew They Were Brothers.

[@galewalersean6222]

THE BLUE MORPHO WILL STILL BE ALIVE IF HE NEVER BECAME FRIENDS WITH JONAS. ALL THAT SHIT JONAS HAD BLUE MORPHO DO. SO THAT WAS WHY THE SOVEREIGN HAD THE BLUE MORPHO KILLED. SO JONAS HAD HIS HAND IN BLUE MORPHO'S DEATH.

[@gingerfeliciano9531]

we still don't know how exactly the plane crash went down but yes most likely

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

Jonas likely killed him to tie up loose ends. Since we can rule out that Sphinx or The Guild did it.

[@QuietVillain]

@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues no why him bring him back. Blue morpho was mos def assisinated by the guild. Or freak accident. Take it or change my mind?

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

+Quintin Garvin Jonas Venture brought back Blue Morpho to make him into a robot, but he lost interest and after Vendata attacked Rusty, Jonas just threw him out. Dr Z found him and turned him evil. We don't know who caused the plane to crash, but we do know Jonas was an untrustworthy pathological liar who was only into himself. We already know Jonas and Morpho's friendship was basically Jonas blackmailing him because he was guilty from cheating on his wife.

[@Popebug]

All caps is a stupid gimmick.

[@garylevine3521]

It’s fun to remember that Dr Venture is based on Doc Savage who lobotomized some of his foes and Blue Morpho is Green Hornet and The Shadow. You could also look at it as what would happen if a Disney Anti-Hero tried to be an Anti-Hero in the Venture Bro’s world. Like he’s not really a terrible guy but Dr Venture...

[@denricdunkley3185]

When is a villain not a villain when they’re a victim

[@DemonicAdj]

Or they live to see themselves become the anti-hero.

[@denricdunkley3185]

@@DemonicAdj Most Anti-Heroes are victims so you’re not wrong

[@catsndogs98]

0:10 most people would be excited that their invention would be wide spread. Nope, he’s too egocentric to care.

[@christopherwall2121]

"Fun!"

[@korystephens3318]

@@christopherwall2121 "Super!"

[@ketzellrae3888]

Anyone with me in believing that Blue Morpho would have been a MUCH better father to Rusty than Jonas?

[@quartzskull8772]

Most people would've been a better father

[@898792]

Ok, so when.... Is the osi, or some one who steals his head going to attempt to clone doc venture senior, only for everything to go wrong? I mean the osi has the head, on ice. If he was just dead they would have buried the guy, same thing goes for the blue morpho.

[@Deathbatman]

I love how he didn’t consider the option of literary just wheeling him to the clone room

[@SuperWolsey]

Only Hunter wouldn't entertain that anymore than Brock

[@deadturret4049]

The cloning lab was destroy long before this, and given that Pete damaged the P.R.O.B.L.E.M, taling over Vendata was Jonas' only option.

[@Deathbatman]

@@deadturret4049 yeah

[@eternallegacy89]

Lol 1:18, even in Death or Suspended Animation, Jonas Venture Sr. manages to traumatize his own son lol....

[@nopealope4573]

Probably not the first person to think this, but the entire venture bros series revolved around the conflict between the hero and the villian: The Blue Morpho and Jonas Venture. The reason why there was no other story after this was because upon Jonas' final defeat, good finally overcame true evil. The guild, the OSI, none of that truly mattered - only the decades-long game between the greatest hero and the greatest villian.

[@friskecrisps8038]

Damn the parallels here…we see the blue morpho and Jonas venture and then the monarch and rusty venture

[@fooliecoolie5284]

Jonas senior was the greatest villain of all time

[@Garinovitch]

Please please please bring back Blue Morpho, I don't mind a little BSing. I need more Blue Morpho and Monarch moments. It's possible to save Blue Morpho, his head didn't take on too much damage.

[@nyotamwuaji6484]

He was already damaged from the club though.

[@cyberdragonessmaster]

You know when they just stand there side by side it's actually pretty obvious that Rusty's and the monarch are brothers

[@tolfan4438]

And not a word about this in the movie. Why am I the only one disappointed

[@HellishSpoon]

Unlike johnas senior Johnas jr. Was actually a hero that every one thought johnas senior was

[@rickdalton6272]

And it ends on the original Venture Bros!