SLS VS. FDM - Can SLS Files be Printed With a Filament 3D Printer ??

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@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
22:55 I love this
@HeWhoCubes
@HeWhoCubes 5 жыл бұрын
The issue with your bowden tube, the improper clearing of filament from the nozzle with multi-material printing, and the frequent layer shifts all tell me that you should spend some time doing maintenance and troubleshooting your printer before dismissing FDM as a feasible tool for printing puzzles. Even using files optimized for SLS printing (Which, like you mentioned early on in the video, is extremely wasteful and is probably a very bad idea), I think you can get much better results if you spent some more time tuning your printer. I hope you'll spend some time getting everything in working order (fixing mechanical issues, updating settings to ensure there is minimal stringing and other printing faults, etc.) before committing to printing another full puzzle, if for no other reason than to save yourself the frustration you experienced in this video.
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not dismissing it, my 4 next prints will be FDM, I just don't think these "methods" were adapted to puzzles. Also, the bowden tube problem was fixed within 3 days, but in the meantime I found temporary solutions before recieving spare parts. With Cura, I'm getting perfect prints all the time now. I just had to find a way to make timelapses without that damn slicer canvas. The point of my next videos is to make harder and harder puzzles with the FDM printer, printed properly.
@ludwigrohrig
@ludwigrohrig 5 жыл бұрын
Some thoughts on the video: 1. You've got some things to sort out with your 3D printer, like stringing, warping, ... I've got one myself and get a lot better prints out of it. 2. You should go slow and try out stuff like HIPS-supports only after you really figured out normal printing. 3. I think FDM-printing twisty puzzles involves a lot of figuring out optimal settings and tolerances. I designed and printed some simpler puzzles. I started with printing just one of each piece to see how they fit and made modifications. That way I got some really nice results. Hopefully the series you're planning on doing will be like that and you could make a follow-up video to this one afterwards. 4. Love that you're doing this. I think FDM-puzzles are really underrated and there is some great stuff out there for everyone to print. For inspirations there are some great people like instagram.com/thepuzzleartist?igshid=1lmewx8un2v8g or instagram.com/elcubitero?igshid=169ws4qw0yo7y Keep up the great work...
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
Just to answer you point nr.3: The series is exactly for this :)
@ludwigrohrig
@ludwigrohrig 5 жыл бұрын
@@GregMakesThings That's great to hear, I think that series is going to be really interesting. Keep up the good work...
@rubendariovelez
@rubendariovelez 5 жыл бұрын
Nice experiments, buuut you are disappointed of FDM because don't learned yet how works, it's totally different from SLS, the offsets are a lot bigger, probably in this days I'll try abs/hips.
@NDPuzzles
@NDPuzzles 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing this hurts. I can feel your pain of dealing with FDM. The only option I see that works is that you use 1 material as support and for the pieces and sand a lot. Post-processing is a lot but I guess that's something we have to deal with. Please try to pay more attention to parts placement in your further experiments. If you place the pieces in a way that the support is minimised (minimisation of volume is irrelevant in FDM), you'll get better results. I wish you good luck!
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I had a printer back in the day, and I'm responsible for 3D printing at work, this was all intentional (albeit frustrating to do haha)
@Booskop.
@Booskop. 5 жыл бұрын
Scrolling through the comment section and obviously people didn't get the point of the video, even though Greg mentioned it numerous times: "Can we print *SLS files optimized for SLS printing* on an FDM printer. In other words: can we take a file that successfully printed in SLS and instantly print that exact file in FDM? Not: redraw the entire puzzle conform FDM standards before printing it.
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! I feel like people don't pay attention to the whole point of the video haha
@KessaWitdaFro
@KessaWitdaFro 5 жыл бұрын
This was basically very expensive slime asmr 😂
@MicahHidlebaugh
@MicahHidlebaugh 5 жыл бұрын
asmr?
@timkidder8821
@timkidder8821 5 жыл бұрын
HIPS filament is typically used as a soluble support for ABS
@michaelpecor8803
@michaelpecor8803 Жыл бұрын
I hope you eventually figured it out. Once you dial in and FDM printer the possibilities are Limitless. Especially with large build plates
@gabethemodder778
@gabethemodder778 5 жыл бұрын
Your issue was simply part positioning, you have plenty of flat surfaces to lay them on but you didn't do so.
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
That was the whole point, I did make 1 with faces flat out, but not the others. The one in the end is the one I printed "for FDM", or basically laying out the parts correctly like an FDM print. All others were not good enough IMO, and this one isn't even close to the quality I got with SLS :(
@gabethemodder778
@gabethemodder778 5 жыл бұрын
@@GregMakesThings you still didn't lay them down well, also your settings need tuned.
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
@@gabethemodder778 22:55 is when I decided to lay them down and use Cura, how is this not the right way to print them ?
@MicahHidlebaugh
@MicahHidlebaugh 5 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me asking, what, or which software do you use?
@KessaWitdaFro
@KessaWitdaFro 5 жыл бұрын
Can you melt down and re spin the wasted plastic into new filament? If so is there a limit to how many times?
@emilipesta4700
@emilipesta4700 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly you can’t, unless you have a special machine, which is moderately expensive and very difficult to use correctly, but there is essentially no limit to how many times you can recycle filament it will just drastically lower the quality
@KessaWitdaFro
@KessaWitdaFro 5 жыл бұрын
Heck
@Jellylamps
@Jellylamps 5 жыл бұрын
Your part positioning is very sub-optimal for FDM prints. There are easier ways to print faster, cleaner, and with less support material. Each method has its own “right” way of doing things. I suggest looking through KZbin to learn from experts in FDM if you plan to fully make puzzles this way Edit: somehow I forgot the title of the video. Yeah, files made specifically for SLS wouldn’t work for all the reasons I listed... and now this comment feels pointless
@GregMakesThings
@GregMakesThings 5 жыл бұрын
That was the whole point :) Don't worry, the good FDM puzzle are coming soon :)
@pk6336158
@pk6336158 4 жыл бұрын
Print A Part At A Time Or Separately....!!!???
@CHIRAG_FPV
@CHIRAG_FPV 4 жыл бұрын
Why can’t he print parts seperately
@abhijeetghodgaonkar
@abhijeetghodgaonkar 5 жыл бұрын
Yo
@xposed11
@xposed11 2 жыл бұрын
holy crap, why so much stringing on your prints?!?!?
@Poutrel
@Poutrel 5 жыл бұрын
The Puzzle in the middle of the thumbnail seems to have too much tension
@stefanoemmanuelreyesllanos223
@stefanoemmanuelreyesllanos223 5 жыл бұрын
Hi
@3liplayzyeet602
@3liplayzyeet602 5 жыл бұрын
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