Slumping Bottles in Your Kiln (and yes, I goofed)

[@margaretwaite8588]

What fun! I've been slumping bottles for a while, but you gave me more useful tips!

[@dianeseverns2382]

I love that the so bottles are fused . Like twins now as a funny platter.

[@dlavanceful]

Thanks for the info on the stuff you put on the top of the bottle , great tip!!

[@dlarson9850]

Love your videos. Very informative, even the oops. Thanks Jamaison.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

We often learn more from the mistakes!

[@vrothery50]

I think they all look great - you did a fantastic job! Your friends will be really happy with them I’m sure! I have a smallish kiln so i cant fit those molds in mine - I appreciate knowing I can cut the bottom of the mold off! Thanks! I will also try it directly on the kiln shelf!

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I really only needed about a 1/2” cut off. I don’t have a wet tile saw but was able to take it to a neighbor who did. He made it look easy and it still works just fine!

[@poorsjm]

Love this! Looking forward to trying it. Your advise and trials are so appreciated!

[@carolyncross6501]

Where would i find the schedule to melt the bottles with the chalk handles?thank you

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I put a link to the schedule I used within the video notes.

[@carolyncross6501]

@@JamaisonSchuler thank you I do love your videos ... i didnt see it But ill look again

[@jbtangerine7566]

I just upgraded to bullseye kiln wash as I was having frustrating kiln wash stick. I’ve had no problems since switching

[@janemackay5883]

Thank you! as a novice I found your video most helpful and encouraging. I am nervous trying the slump a bottle but will try now I have watched your video. By the way, the name for the ‘innie’ of a bottle base is punt, I think. Cheers from Australia.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Thanks and good luck!!!

[@mellisa9459]

But I have always thought 💭 that you couldn’t eat off of anything that had a label? Oh learning these things are hard.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I’ll admit that I’m making an assumption here, but they also aren’t going to be cooking with it or adding hot food, so I’d be less concerned about the occasional contact with a cracker, carrot stick, or chunk of cheese?

[@Jonathan-fz8di]

@@JamaisonSchuler I think they're food safe, as the devit over glaze covers the area, this devit solution is a low lead based product that's food safe. I think someone else is asking the same question, but can you use devit solution on an already devitrified surface, then fire it to clear? Or would you need to remove the devit first with cold work? Great video BTW!

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I really don’t know if devit would be removed without cold working and solution only… may have to experiment!

[@galevarland4702]

I put papyrus on my bottle molds any time the bottles have print on the back. Thanks for keeping on with your videos!

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I do think I’m going to have to do that in the future!

[@tamarassaf]

Thank you for all your wonderful videos Jamaison! New to glass fusing, your videos are inspiring! Just got my new kiln. Want to fuse bottles. Am afraid bottles will roll in kiln while heating up - resulting in sticking to kiln walls or dripping down to kiln floor... is that a possibility? if it is, what can I do to keep round bottles from rolling while kiln is firing up? Thank you!

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I’ve been taught that a few grains of kiln wash or a grain of frit can keep a bottle from rolling if placed right.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Of course always make sure your kiln and shelf are level, and it’s always a good idea to apply kiln wash to your kiln floor just in case of accidents like you mentioned!

[@tamarassaf]

@@JamaisonSchuler Much appreciative for your informative quick reply!

[@brenda012249]

Do you ever slump Gray goose bottles , I am having a problem lately with the paint burning , I slumped an Absolute vodka bottle 2 days ago using the same firing schedule and it turned out beautiful, today I slumped a gray goose and all the darker colors burned off , I have done a few of these with no problem, I thought the paint chemistry had changed.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I have not, but I have heard that bottles can come from different manufacturers who might use different paint/enamel’s and so therefore your results could be very different even on the same brand.

[@johnautry6851]

Jamaison, can you cold work the nasty stuff on the bottom and even where the two bottles stuck together? Seems like all the bad stuff would grind off. I'm playing with silicon carbid grit on a granite slab, though you can use the grit on a piece of glass. I can't believe how quickly silicon carbide and elbow grease grind and polish glass. I'm with you on the kiln wash thing...messy when it gets on the bottom. Devit there too. Thas the only thing that bothers me about slumping bottles.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I suppose I could have tried some coldworking… too lazy! 😂

[@johnautry6851]

@@JamaisonSchuler I like to see you do some cold working. Love your vids. Like to see that one! I had no idea what silicon carbide could do to glass, without an expensive grinder, until a couple of days ago. If you are not familiar with HIS glass works in Ashville, and their vids, I think you would enjoy. Thanks for all you do! ja

[@mehranfreeman6192]

very useful tips .Thank you 👍🙏

[@brittgastreich4065]

Use the “oops” as a double serving platter. I like it!!!

[@kathyreynolds1149]

What is the name of the product you applied to the front of the bottles? Thanks. I enjoy your videos. Down to my level that I can understand and have the tools.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Super Spray. There’s also another one called Spray A (I believe) that’s basically the same thing. There is some recipe for making your own using borax as well but I’ve not tried it and don’t know the full recipe.

[@MarcFresko]

​@@JamaisonSchuler borax (sodium borate) dissolved in water.

[@renes4302]

Thank you so much for this video! I'm brand new to this, a friend just gifted me with a Skutt 609 Kiln and I can't wait to get started. I have a question about the product used for devitrification, I haven't had any luck trying to find it, I would also prefer to make a diy version of it? Thank you again!

[@JamaisonSchuler]

You should do a search for “super spray devitrification”, there are probably plenty of online retailers that sell it. I’ve seen some formulas for a homemade version using borax but I’ve never tried it myself.

[@renes4302]

@@JamaisonSchuler Thank you for the quick reply! I will see if I can find a homemade version, they want quite a bit for an 8oz bottle of the Fuse Master brand! I have borax on hand, so hopefully I will find a recipe! I'm subscribed to your channel. Thank you again!

[@leafz418]

Very nice video! What is the cooking temperature? Can we do it in a kitchen oven?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

No, this definitely cannot be done in the kitchen oven. It needs to be fired to about 1500°.

[@jenipowell]

Love all your instructional videos. Glad you are out there. Is it possible to cut the bottom off the bottles before slumping or fusing?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I’ve not done that but i don’t see why not? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jenipowell]

@@JamaisonSchuler thank you I'll giver a try

[@debtisch2728]

Could I get your fusing schedule please? What happy if you don’t paint the top of the bottle?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

300-1230-45 300-1350-30 600-1475-5 9999-950-60 100-500-0

[@JamaisonSchuler]

If you don’t paint the super spray on, it has a high likelihood of getting dull

[@petertwining5729]

You could separate those bottle necks with a Taurus ring saw, it will smooth it as well. :)

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Yet another piece of equipment that I don’t have!

[@petertwining5729]

@@JamaisonSchuler LOL Honestly you dont need one but in this instance it would come in handy. :)

[@jamiefairchild6756]

Could you suggest where I might find a kiln 😊

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I would keep an eye on places like Facebook marketplace or Craigslist. Or an of the glass supply for sale groups on facebook

[@pamelamccann2299]

Hi, thanks for all your videos. I love them! Learn something new every time. Did you say you were going to give us the firing schedule?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

You’ll find it within the PDF I posted in the video notes. Thanks!

[@pamelamccann2299]

See ha ha I just learned something else. Couldn’t find the video notes until now. Thanks again

[@mcasti523]

You mentioned home made super spray? What is it made of

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I don’t know…. I believe borax, but I have never made it. Ma need to do a Google search?

[@cobaltglasscustomworks6481]

Thanks for the video.

[@caronspencer6363]

Awesome information!! Thank ypu

[@mandycapel5813]

Hi Jamaison, I'm unable to download the firing schedule and can't find it on Paradise's website either. Would you mind giving it to me. Mandy

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I put the link directly in the video notes: spuaf.axcqn.servertrust.com/v/vspfiles/tutorialsfornewweb/Bottle%20Tutorial.pdf

[@hilltopceramicsGA]

How do you make this solution or what is it called to buy it? Never heard of this.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

It’s called Spray A

[@staceyengstrom2012]

you can file the two that got connected...that might smooth the edges that touched.

[@barbrasmith4405]

The page with the schedule isn't loading for me.

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Opens right up for me. spuaf.axcqn.servertrust.com/v/vspfiles/tutorialsfornewweb/Bottle%20Tutorial.pdf

[@charliegregg9447]

The white liquid is kiln wash?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

No, it’s called Spray A: www.creativeglassguild.co.uk/prod/hotline-spray-a-plus

[@carolynpollack1083]

Found this really interesting. Can you tell me the name of the stuff you coated the top of the bottle with, please?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Some say you can make your own devitrification solution, but I have not tried it. This is the one I have: amzn.to/3HEEXh4

[@AnnetteRintelmann]

Can u use any bottle?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Pretty much!

[@treefroglyn]

I am obsessed with all of this glass stuff! I have a bunch of wine bottles and a couple of smaller bottles that I can’t wait to slump now. So, flat on the paper has what firing schedule? Don’t want to neglect thanking you for your wonderful experiments and tutorials. ❤️🌻

[@JamaisonSchuler]

I used this exact schedule in the Creative Paradise tip sheet: spuaf.axcqn.servertrust.com/v/vspfiles/tutorialsfornewweb/Bottle%20Tutorial.pdf

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Would probably work well flat on paper too?

[@lindawillard6124]

Can you re fuse after painting on the devit solution to remove the devit from the bottom of the bottle#?

[@JamaisonSchuler]

Probably? I would think you’d want to sandblast or something to remove the devit first? Then would want to reapply Super Spray on the whole bottle face again… 🤔

[@lindawillard6124]

@@JamaisonSchuler well,don’t have a sandblaster but I guess I’ll try the super spray.

[@hilltopceramicsGA]

If you will use the paper between the mold and bottle that will stop. I don't know what you call the paper sorry.

[@maryshevlin7667]

Be sure to anneal a very long time. Think thick slab. I have had bottle bottoms snap off long after they were slumped.

[@sergior4498]

without reading all the comments or you probably know by now... the lettering on the back of the bottle will stick to the mold, a piece of kiln paper will solve the problem.

[@mellisa9459]

Cut with a saw.