Amazingly knowledgeable engine builders in these comments, who criticize everyone else, but none of whom have their own videos. If they're such experts, I wonder why they're even watching these basic how-to videos?
@jasperpipes42224 жыл бұрын
Because builders are interested in other peoples builds. The same basic principals of of cleanliness, tolerances, ect are universal. When someone posts an instructional video with errors, the greater community feels obliged to comment so people learning don't develop bad habits. Parts Pro is reasonably good channel, A lot of engine building videos out there are just junk !
@annmarierudolph22912 жыл бұрын
You are a idiot and dont know what your talking about this guy is a fool and knows enough to get him in trouble.
@gregg41646 жыл бұрын
You actually wait until your short block is assembled before you chase the bolt holes on the block? Thats nuts. i would be damned sure to do all of that before i assembled the bottom end and then clean EVERYTHING.
@maniacal-s105 жыл бұрын
I agree ! Maniacal s10
@zxtenn4 жыл бұрын
I AGREE 100%, that should have been done before installing even 1 part onto the block, what if a hole was stripped, etc. and the engine is already assembled?
@dougmiller97192 жыл бұрын
bad move for sure
@THEBOILEDONE2 жыл бұрын
But he is worried about lint
@MrGGPRI5 жыл бұрын
Chasing the block threads CAREFULLY is critical; a shop did mine during a complete block service, apparently with a power hand drill and some were so loose and torn-up that I had to install inserts and finally used a complete set of ARP studs. Not to mention that the same shop also destroyed both of my rare 327 461X heads while TRYING to install hardened seats. ( Darrell Buell Automotive Eng )
@mattb65955 жыл бұрын
Wondering why he used a tap instead of a thread chaser? Taps cut. Thread chasers clean and true.
@kennethalbert46533 жыл бұрын
Here's a tip ! Don't chase threads with a tap. They make "thread chasers" for that, relatively cheap too.
@Stevesbe3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes
@jjmccloud5 жыл бұрын
Agree with the taps for the head bolts, I know some say no and to use chasers but them chasers won't remove all the corrosion and rust. Chasers are great for most threads but for these especially if using new arp bolts using the taps are the best option as long as u know your cutting some and will mess it up if ur not careful and pay attention. If there's to much tention then double check to see what's going on before just continuing to crank that tap in there
@rossdean19974 жыл бұрын
Use a thread chaser, not a tap. Taps can remove material. Also, what tap size is it, a ground high or ground low? Most taps are ground high 3.
@robertcowan82116 жыл бұрын
YEP, ALL BLOCK PREP SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE FINAL WASH................. ROOKIE
@Laqota5 ай бұрын
I'm about to save your time yall. The Rocker Arms, Rocker Bolts, and push rods, ANY BOLT OR OBJECT doesn't need to be installed in the exact same place as long as their equally the same. You can if you want but this is usually only done in mechanic shops where they're there to fix a head gasket for example and their required to replace everything back in the same condition as it was received, but with the repair done. For someone working on their own car it's not required at all. It's mostly just a "return the wear to what it was previously" but I've always said that the car ran the same amount of time, everything is worn equally.
@ratcamaro5 жыл бұрын
I use Toyota FIPG sealant on the threads of the head bolts/studs. Never had any coolant leaks.
@griffon32758 жыл бұрын
When prepping the head bolts you commented you were using thread locker on the threads and arp paste on the washers. This is incorrect the white thread locker you are using isn't thread locker it is a sealant paste because the head bolts install into the water jacket of the block, Im sure you are aware of this but someone watching the video and not really knowing what you are doing would use loc tite blue or red on their head bolts and run into all kinds of major problems like pulling the threads out of the block when trying to remove those bolts down the road and possible coolant leaks because thread locker isn't a sealant for coolant
@SgtTourettes3836 жыл бұрын
Griffon 327 I need some advise, I’m using these heads I’m pretty sure not the rpm version. In any case I’m using arp studs, I had my engine freshened up and decked at my local machine shop. I used what “experienced” guys recommended which they suggested permatex aviation sealant and I used a fair amount. I chased and cleaned my threads and cleaned studs and all the prep work. I let my sealant cure more than 24 hrs and then installed the heads. Now it took a bit to get other parts to actually run the engine but the head studs leak. My leak is NOT from the surface between HEAD and DECK or from gasket and I don’t have internal leaks into engine ei. Milky oil. The coolant seems to be traveling along the studs from the water jacket thru the nut and out the top of the nut. Any advise?
@superfuntime31076 жыл бұрын
If you can take them out one at a time and put teflon paste sealer on them. Studs...Good luck. Drain the block first.
@danielbeiersr36424 жыл бұрын
So you waited to chase the head bolt holes threads after you've built the bottom end and you just cleaned the gasket/head sealing surface, wow
@annmarierudolph22912 жыл бұрын
I agree should be done before engine is assembled armature build bad info.would not recommend following this video!
@Supanova702 жыл бұрын
I am putting on a set of Dart iron heads. Without using the gasket should the head sit flat on the deck? mine does not...
@HBJY-Cylinder-Head-Factory2 жыл бұрын
we're a cylinder head and block factory in China 🙂
@jerryespinoza2113 Жыл бұрын
NEVER retap head screw holes. Use a chaser or youll regret it
@crisperez5922 ай бұрын
I think they know what they are doing
@keltingr2612Ай бұрын
Apparently not if they're doing the block prep on the threads after they already spent all the time assembling the engine@@crisperez592
@Jgarage54 жыл бұрын
I wanted to know how to build a set of Heads, parts list, what to check for. Take it to a machinist for valve seats?
@aaronbryce32954 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm doing...your having your original ones redone???
@TransSkateDate Жыл бұрын
Sorry what side always goes up for the gasket? I couldn't hear, or what's the strap side??
@7REDDRACO76 жыл бұрын
did you check valve seating leak seal before you bolted those heads on? and check the cc for actual cc's? did you port match anything? did you do any porting at all? did you do any extra unshrouding? the rpm heads appear ready to go, however we would like actual data on these outstanding quality heads, we all know heads need a go through especially after shipping. did you change valve springs? if so what are spring type and specs, cam specs, etc. thanks your video is an easy going video of guys putting on parts.
@bilbobaggins47105 жыл бұрын
These heads are CNC'd I would not touch the ports at all ...Check for valve sealing yes
@Schlipperschlopper8 ай бұрын
Edelbrock heads and their China valves need extensive valve jobs they leak and burn valve if not corrected
@ssdtrain15 жыл бұрын
Hello !!?? u didn't say which bolts go where???
@MLFranklin6 жыл бұрын
I completely wore out three taps when chasing my head bolt threads. It that normal? The taps were VermontAmerican, which is more of an economy brand. So maybe they thrifted on the alloy or hardening.
@normhodgkinson69655 жыл бұрын
@Redline Racer so do I, and so do most reputable machine shops. I cringed when I saw him using a cutting tap.
@normhodgkinson69655 жыл бұрын
@Redline Racer and chasing the threads after the short block was assembled is a no-no in my opinion. i like to watch some videos of the actual machine work being done on heads and blocks. i'm 72 yrs old, and building my 8th drag car, and hopefully my last. Chev Vega, 406 small block.
@dieselburner44614 жыл бұрын
Shit I went to 70Ft pounds on my edelbrock heads since the ARP head bolt specifications mentioned 70lbs of torque
@genehensley7678 жыл бұрын
you should have done that already before you started reassembling the engine
@whiplashmachine6 жыл бұрын
The dude that honed the block should have done it for the torque plate. Unless he skipped the torque plate part.
@maniacal-s105 жыл бұрын
Hey parts pro. I agree you should clean the bolt holes before you assemble the short block/bottom end! Alumium heads are a lot lighter than cast iron still becarful! Maniacal s10.
@bobstephens88514 жыл бұрын
Do screw in rocker studs need thread sealant? I didn't think so but someone told me you do need to use sealant.?
@paulg33442 жыл бұрын
Yes, some do penetrate the head water jacket.
@hiddenghost92002 ай бұрын
Wait so degree angles isn’t really necessary????
@breamedia92058 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by the strap side in an indication of the right side up.when installing the head gasket ?
@rmzjohnon5 жыл бұрын
striped side up
@junkyardchronicles12894 жыл бұрын
can I reuse my headbolts on my 305?
@stuartcookie1334 жыл бұрын
You can but for $20 from Rockauto.com Enginetech makes a set that work great.They have the sealant applied to the threads.Part number HB142. I have used them many times.
@keltingr2612Ай бұрын
You like to live dangerously huh
@king0cans9 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford some aluminum heads for my build.
@michaeldavis57755 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's more cost effective to buy a new set of aluminum heads, than to spend big bucks rebuilding worn out iron heads.
@godfellas4834 жыл бұрын
350 on ebay
@barrykenner7 жыл бұрын
good basic head instructions
@jayvalentin0184 жыл бұрын
what size tap are you using tho?
@JohnWilliams-ow4so4 жыл бұрын
Im by no means an expert mechanic but i saw your comment and figured id help you out the only point of tapping the threads is to clean it out making sure theres no debris or maybe a damaged thread, so basically just use the same size tap as your bolt hole. That way when you are tightening your bolts they go nice and easy and you will have a proper reading on your torque wrench.
@ironhorse1279 жыл бұрын
Are you actually using a thread chaser to clean them out, or are u re taping the threads?
@ironhorse1279 жыл бұрын
+Parts Pro Centers thanks. Thats what I figured. Some folks dont realize how important a step that is, to properly torque the bolts. Great video
@ntsullivan8 жыл бұрын
+ironhorse127 looks like a tap to me. Sketchy
@SgtTourettes3836 жыл бұрын
It’s possible to dull a tap with a buffer wheel and “chase” the threads.
@leonardohernandez61245 жыл бұрын
Could l use on my small engine 283 chevy the cylinder head of 305?
@GJ-DT5 жыл бұрын
Toss em both in scrap heap, dont build anything less than 383. Dont waist your time and money.
@flinch6226 жыл бұрын
Home gamers try this if you forget to chase threads before assembling your short block: use that engine stand [for what it's made for], and turn the side you are working on to face down. Better off with a crick in your neck than metal shavings hiding in you piston bores. Flush holes after thread chasing with a little brake cleaner before righting - use the straw and wrap a shop towel around the opening so you don't get a face full, using short blasts to catch debris. And don't follow his advice of plain "cotton" for final wipedown before putting in gaskets- it's not lint free and if threads come out undetected, the softest/tightest part of your engine is... your bearings, so if there will be a problem from that 99% chance it happens there. If by chance you bought a stand that does not allow block rotation... give up on engine building, as you are not mechanically minded, and the $40 bucks you saved will perhaps cost you a thousand down the road. By the way, there is no such thing as a "bolt on" head - assembled heads should always need a little t.l.c. before putting on. Two things must happen at a minimum: pull valves to check valve seat runout, and verify the intake port is a hair larger than your intake manifold side with everything lined up. Having a wall steals hp from what is otherwise a good investment [and is not friendly for carburated engines]. I have yet to see an intake manifold/head combination that didn't need just a little massaging with a die grinder, so just bet on having to fit those two as part of the build. I like the manifold side between 0.005" and 0.010" smaller than the opening on the heads to give room for settling or minor gasket shift when assembling. For valves, seat runout of less than 0.001" is bang on, and anything over 0.002" is cause to go to a machine shop to get valve seats re-cut if you want maximum life out of the heads before next service. Most machine work will be in the liveable middle, and will do just fine. Runout of over 0.004" is an abomination that will cause poor compression, premature guide wear, and allow reversion problems/odd manifold vacuum behavior... it's an all stop: don't even think of bolting that on. Yeah, it will run, but why did you buy aluminum heads in the first place?
@terrycardenas23636 жыл бұрын
why do you have brand new pistons in bad looking cylinders?..I see a black ring around the cylinder that should be clean from honing with a good cross hatch
@gregg41646 жыл бұрын
There is no way i would use " Bolt On " heads straight from the box. I would at the very least have them checked by a machine shop and leak check the valves and guides.
@Nowayjose-z2r6 жыл бұрын
I agree, but at the same time if you buy a crate motor... guess what, straight out of the box.
@Nowayjose-z2r5 жыл бұрын
@port nut could void the warranty :).
@SKANK_HUNT499 жыл бұрын
where are the push rods?
@Jgarage56 жыл бұрын
They hadn't got that far.
@timothyhoserramerine76346 жыл бұрын
No tap handle?
@henrycole87054 жыл бұрын
Out of box performance? I wonder how good the machine work is? Valve work?
@MIKEHOVIND3 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly , mass produced heads always need to be sent to an engine shop
@Schlipperschlopper8 ай бұрын
@@MIKEHOVIND I had to cut and lap all seats and reface all valves that were chinese 21 4N stuff, better buy Brodix heads and use Manley Severe Duty or extreme Duty valves!
@donrutter67655 жыл бұрын
I've never seen threads that screwed up. You sure thats not a metric tap ? 🤣🤣🤣
@karlmawby29214 жыл бұрын
Um no ARP Head studs for all that High Dollar Parts.....
@jward9637 Жыл бұрын
Did you have to hone (Sand it done flat) the deck?
@pretzeltss5 жыл бұрын
Here comes the expert engine builders in the comments 321...
@bilbobaggins47105 жыл бұрын
This is making several mistakes
@thatdudewithther1984 жыл бұрын
So do I need to clean it?? Lol
@serviceshoptoday9 жыл бұрын
why the wrench on the tap?
@griffon32758 жыл бұрын
+Marc Beard Thinking the exact same thing I have a socket set made specifically for the top of taps so you can use a 3/8 spinner handle for stuff like that or very least use the tap handle that is in the tap and die kit. using the wrench not only takes 20 times more effort and time it side loads the tap when turned which dig into the threads cause hes cleaning the threads with an actual tap instead of a thread chaser that will not cut only clean.
@eddieallen89828 жыл бұрын
+Griffon 327 12p and spline sockets work good with taps also.
@serviceshoptoday8 жыл бұрын
Yeah my thoughts exactly... Side load was my firth thought then I said they know better. I know they have tools.
@jerredwayne84015 жыл бұрын
Oh look my long lost cousin
@Campbase15 жыл бұрын
Thats not the way to run an tap. You should have used oil and ran it back and forth. Rookie.
@comeinhandynow6 жыл бұрын
Here are my L98 350 TPI head gaskets being changed for interest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3XCdHWbpbKgg68
@ayylmao11937 ай бұрын
holy hell man buy yourself a tap handle and learn how to use a torque wrench.
@blown572hemi5 жыл бұрын
Hope you and viewers of this understand that edelbrock is famous for not having specs correct and that they should go to a machine shop before bolting them on out of the box. No, I’m not an expert and know nothing about nothing except for what I’ve seen
@gregg41646 жыл бұрын
I just know you did not take those heads straight out of the box and installed them. How much work did you need to do too them before you where willing too actually use them? We all know all production heads no matter who makes them need work straight from the box. Yeah bolt on head. HaHa thats funny.
@bilbobaggins47105 жыл бұрын
I did and zero issue however, I wish I had checked the valves for sealing
@Schlipperschlopper8 ай бұрын
@@bilbobaggins4710 they will burn out because they dont seal
@kennethalbert46533 жыл бұрын
Lots of ugliness in this video ! That 3 step torque process recommended is NG ! The increments are too small, especially with bolts. Don't jerk the torque wrench ! Slow and steady Rechecking after torqued will tell you nothing! Stop at 65 then turn torque wrench to 70 and try again...it will click. The initial friction needs to be overcome which is likely 5 lb/ft before the fastener will turn...even moreso with bolts compared to studs.
@Schlipperschlopper3 жыл бұрын
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. :-(
@BADBRUIN716 жыл бұрын
why in hell is almost everybody posting videos playing a very annoying music track in the background?
@tubedude10776 жыл бұрын
Its because they know about engines and stuff and they know nothing about music
@allanbancroft46927 жыл бұрын
i hope no one actually attempts to torque their fasteners like this. the torque click should be one and done, each time you're clicking that thing, you're adding 3-5 in or ft lbs to the fastener torque. completely wrong. its a nice build, i hope its still running good.
@MichelLinschoten7 жыл бұрын
If you do not push to hard through the torque click not a problem, i hate internet bullshitters like this. When did you ever ...and i do mean EVER heard that a head damaged of 3 or 4 ft LBS more?! NEVER....stop the bullshit salty experts
@lesgoKSU6 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree with you Allen, if the bolts don't turn, and they shouldn't because once he lets off the set torque the break loose torque higher than the torque settings "click" or snap over. once a bolt stops turning it will take much more torque to get it going again, much higher than the snap through. torque is a function of stretch in the bolt and if the bolt is not threading in further he is no longer stretching the bolt. now it may be true that the second and 3rd click are redundant but if he hit it 100 times more he wouldn't be adding 300-500 more ft-lbs. that is why he has to go in steps of 10 or 15, in order to get them moving again.
@quatre55556 жыл бұрын
completely false
@Nowayjose-z2r6 жыл бұрын
They have done tests (google it) and it is true to NOT double click as it will add torque. So not completely false. it is more drastic when your at around 20 ft lbs or under (obviously) but at 70 ft lbs it's irrelevant and one could argue a typical torque wrench +- allowed would be greater. I cheat the system daily on airplanes where you have a specific spec on the nut, sometimes bolt, with a min and max in order to fit a cotter pin. If it's not within that spec you are supposed to add or remove "shims" (washers). While when it's close, just keep clicking it'll line up. The difference is we have QA watching to keep us from just manhandling it. So we can all keyboard warrior it up and name call and call bullshit all day, but you may end up looking like an arrogant prick at the end of the day @Michel Linschoten.....
@Schlipperschlopper8 ай бұрын
@@MichelLinschoten Eric Weingartner and David Wizard would never work so crappy like this noob here
@Motorcitypower14 жыл бұрын
Tapping the bolt holes after you have the short block assembled is a sure sign of a "Shade tree Mechanic" there's no Reputable engine builders that would EVER do that .....You Sir have FAILED !!!! P.S I would be embarrassed to keep this video up.
@dannymarrel37765 жыл бұрын
This guy can't build an engine. He doesn't even know how to use a tap.
@larryw54294 жыл бұрын
So much wrong with this video it should be removed!!
@blackericdenice8 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how you guys cry about assembly lube and Mercedes, BMW and myself use regular everyday engine oil.
@bar20bbq708 жыл бұрын
i find it it amazing that you would make such idiotic statement.ever heard of zinc.
@blackericdenice8 жыл бұрын
@118249652784686822180 Yes it fixes another made up problem they created to get stupid people to buy something they don’t need.
@thomashayes74236 жыл бұрын
BMW and Mercedes are all plastic. Everything is different with those
@Schlipperschlopper8 ай бұрын
they dont have OHV engines
@blackericdenice8 ай бұрын
@@thomashayes7423 They don’t have plastic internal engine parts either