Smash 4 Wii U - Top 5 Ledge Traps

[@DyllonStejGaming]

"He can build a wall and make his opponents pay for it." I GET IT!

[@shwabzie9721]

AYYY

[@mc_sea]

I guess you could say it is his TRUMP card. XD files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/srends/500-90_575835e781450.jpg

[@1000g2g3g4g800999]

Trump and Undertale references in the same video, about Smash. I don't know how to feel lol.

[@myrrusz4342]

Dyllon! Hey! Im subbed btw... ur my favourite tas-er

[@elicorder5330]

+1000g2g3g4g800999 I FEEL TRIGGERED

[@sawhill]

8:47 "He can build a wall of projectiles and make his opponents pay for it." Oh my god.

[@khanammr]

lmao

[@jasonson436]

XDDD IM DONE

[@dekaeme9317]

Diddy Kong is Secretly Donald Trump

[@dylanparris5944]

I JIST CAUGHT THAT LMAO

[@starstorm4077]

My thoughts exactly.

[@magmivire]

"Pacman's hydrant can make it seem impossible to get back on-stage." "...Anyway, here's number 1."

[@hypersonicguy]

it's bs how pac-man isn't number 1 :v. he's got a lot more than his hydrant too : /, like all of his fruit, and the trampoline... sometimes i swear they intentionally screw pac out of these kind of things.

[@David-kt9jz]

Villager tree pocket is almost always a one shot therefore reflects are useless

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

Have you seen how much damage Timber does? It's even worse pocketed

[@doktorfickle2077]

they're doing it to hide his secrets so pac man doesn't get exposed for being overpowered

[@ParcoFolgore777]

Pacman's hydrant set-ups on the ledge is just the tip of the iceberg. His trampoline is also a devastating tool as it ignores and cancels invincibility frames for not being a damaging move and rather an interactive object. It can for example throw the opponent directly from the middle of a roll get-up to a flying fruit(usually the melon) or hydrant.

[@DrGandW]

Thank you I respect DDD Gordo's potential for early kills but I feel like Pac and DDD should be switched

[@mc_sea]

The trampoline can also force opponents to jump if they try to roll or get up normally if it is placed close enough to the stage. You can also use the bell to hit them if they try to drop from the edge and try to wait it out. The only problem with this is that it takes some time to set up and projectiles can get through the trampoline.

[@IWish2500]

A banana and nuts aren't life-threatening, but they are life creating

[@lancelot717]

+wealthypersons No, but the nuts were

[@bilalgill6722]

+Benjamin Haskin shit that was nice

[@funfun1122]

And tasty together, especially with some ice cream.

[@leonfx8750]

They can, if he has AIDS

[@mannyrodgz6371]

CAULDRONS! 😧

[@XiaoAndyPugMan]

12:02 "He has to start planting his seed *immediately*"

[@makemeasandwich1]

No wonder Isabelle joined the Smash roster.

[@Sirax123]

*FBI* : Hold my wiretap

[@JamesEDask]

This is some of the best smash content I've ever seen in terms of quality video/editing and eloquent concise summary. You just got an updoot, a new subscriber, and if KZbin Gold was a thing, I'd give you that as well.

[@BeefySmashDoods]

+James Dask

[@skyguysZ]

"He can build a wall of projectiles and make his opponents pay for it." c5 pls

[@sammo3685]

diddy trump 2k16

[@insomniumfiles]

lmao i was waiting for someone to comment about that

[@theinternetpacifist4898]

"Toon Link created ISIS"

[@yackamajez]

lol

[@rumple7473]

O gosh, I didn't even notice that. XD

[@oro6399]

"The ledge.. A place of safety.. A place to relax.."

[@ywy8217]

Oro until your friend learns to stage spike you... (Dum dum tssssssss)

[@insanegamer2885]

A place to panic

[@Happy-or4wt]

A place to panic, unless you play Melee and Brawl.

[@0MikematicOnUTube0]

"Cloud can be super scary near the ledge, and he doesn't even need a complicated setup. All he needs is his limit..." Pretty much sums up cloud in a nutshell.

[@ToluDude]

"This video is sponsored by smash *amino*" They got you too, nobody is safe :'(

[@Zeltik]

Been wanting a video covering the ledge for a while! Cheers!

[@leudyrodriguez2488]

+Zeltik been waiting for a nee zelda video ._.

[@nemil238]

the ending lmao

[@dohyunkwak2925]

Villager has another ledge covering trap that is safe against reflectors. He can plant a sap right at the end of the stage, then do a walking back water to any move, usually a up tilt to kill cause it comes out fast. This is used more by players like Ranai

[@Omono]

"He can build a wall of projectiles and make his opponent pay for it" I see what you did there.

[@agent_l154]

Did anyone else as immature as me laugh when he said "he can shoot 2 or 3 nuts"

[@KeitaroTime]

death by beyblade LOL

[@icebeamvgc]

Oh yes!

[@arcviper27]

Rush Hour Smash lol

[@nintenblade7827]

Rush Hour Smash LET IT RIP!

[@КаналДена-р2и]

LEL

[@saithepsychic2069]

3.. 2.. 1.. LETTIT RIP!

[@1uparcade33]

There's another ledge trap with Pac-Man that I really like. You have to be holding a melon in order for it to work, though. Basically, you run to the ledge, throw the melon up, then use trampoline and land at the ledge. The reason why this is so good is because if your opponent rolls or attack, they run into the trampoline and get launched into the melon for the kill. If they jump, they hit the melon. If they wait, Pac Man will ledge trump them and can combo that into a pack air to possibly end the stock. And if the opponent drops off the stage, they gave up ledge invincibility and Pac Man is on the ledge ready to edge guard, which is not good for the opponent. And let's not forget he still has hydrant to use as well

[@azu_chrv]

Pack air

[@giornogiovanna2008]

@@azu_chrv he is pac man

[@GRATUXMc]

Step-dash looking promising for the meta game - Beefy smash doods upload ledge traps...

[@fireflyhighh]

It looks promising... for meta knight and bayo

[@voltekka47]

+Mr Molds depends. dud you try it with other characters?

[@GRATUXMc]

Theres somewhat of a stepdash tier list out there. Look it up

[@byVariations]

3 characters can use it effectively not really a huge change.

[@theworldendedin2012]

Best ledge trap is Kirby neutral b. Some people say it sucks though.

[@Kyara7]

dukereginald98 I once Jv3d a Megaman by spamming it when he was offstage

[@YourAverageLink]

PK FLAH!!! You didn't get the joke

[@overdamgameroverdamgamer9809]

...

[@CloudyRiptide]

Love using it as Dedede

[@akeemtaylor8375]

dukereginald no kirbys nuetral b can be avoided by simply letting go of the ledge

[@BeefySmashDoods]

Follow us on Smash Amino if you want! :)

[@bandie8224]

ok

[@Nox-gu9cj]

I'll install it for you ^^

[@troy_the_boy]

hey wasup

[@therealnoman6443]

Hey! Can you please tell me what you use to record footage/audio? Your video quality and content are great! Big fan here, and keep up the hard work!

[@MeidoLazorZangetsuha]

omg the reference. DETERMINATION

[@fruitfullemon8300]

Wait.. Robin and/or Corrin didn't even get an honorable mention? I agree with Robin not being on the list, but not an HM? Arc fire covers 2 options, and can catch opponents if they wait too long. Robin can also read a roll with smash attacks. However, I completely disagree with Corrin not even being on this list. Corrin's charging F Smash at the ledge (similar to Lucario) covers most options. But that's not the only thing... Corrin's neutral b (hold) ,spaced, covers most options as well. That's not all! Corrin has another option, too. Charging F smash spaced from the ledge covers many options including getting opponents if they wait too long.

[@paluwaifu5229]

Corrin f-smash doesn't cover most ledge options; it covers every ledge option. Jumpm Neutral Getup, and Attack are caught by the sword, and if you roll it becomes a tipper f-smash. Only problem is that this is easily countered by dropping off the ledge and coming back up with an aerial, or waiting for the f-smash to end, and then coming back up

[@ribombee4252]

+PaluWaifu It'll probably be dangerous to use that ledge trap when Corrin is at high percents because if I remember correctly if you get hit while charging a smash attack you'll take more knockback.

[@fruitfullemon8300]

PaluWaifu When I said most get up options, I said this because you can just jump and do an aerial

[@paluwaifu5229]

Enigma-Sama Yeah you do. It's best used when they are at kill percent and they aren't, or if they are impatient and just get off the ledge (especially if they that you might trump them)

[@ChainsSSB]

Robin I'm surprised didn't make it, but the reason Corrin didn't is because the player needs good reaction time with the Dragon Fang trap and it can be waited out, while the FSmash trap can also be waited out as well as being punished if they drop from the ledge and attack

[@cha-chakyamba9361]

I never really looked into the ledge traps but now I realized I got hit by all of those and I always panicked so this video helped me a ton with remaining calm and avoiding the traps. Thank you Beefy ;)

[@vdun]

"Death by beyblade." Nice.

[@javiermagana2243]

Te quality of older videos was perfect, and now you are going even further! Amazing

[@chikichikiu]

What about Duck Hunt and his can? That could have been a honorable mention

[@giornogiovanna2008]

And the clay shoot and the wilf gunman Duck hunt excels at ledge trapping

[@naverick22]

I think Ike's Neutral B makes for an incredible ledge trap situation. The flames, if spaced correctly, are big enough to catch anyone attempting hangout on the ledge, attempting to roll behind ike, jump above him, regrab, or even attack. The only issue is timing. There's a clear delay before the hitbox comes out so you pretty much have to feel when they'll decide to get up. Otherwise, your oppenent can simply dodge the move. It's and awesome edgeguarding tool alternatively.

[@dhdghost_ow4695]

When you can't escape undertale memes at the ledge

[@TriforceTrio]

Everything Duck Hunt does, Arcfire, Bowser's Fire Breath/Charizard's Flamethrower, Flip Jump

[@illindustries]

If I see an undertale determination quote thing , I'm gonna have a bad time

[@ThePaintedHope]

this might just be the best vid you guys have made thus far. the analysis was absutely amazing!

[@Red9419]

"Diddy makes a wall and makes his opponent pay for it" lmao

[@TheSuperCommentGuy]

Glad someone else caught this.

[@TechBlade9000]

Red that is that icon

[@ashley_bl2]

Robin's Projectiles, Corrin's Side-B or F-Smash, Toon Link's Projectiles and Up-b, Wario's Bike, Lucario's Aura Sphere, Duck Hunt's Projectiles, Zelda's Down-B, Game and Watch's Neutral B, and Samus's Bombs and Neutral B all deserve a mention as well, but this is a top 5, not a top 58. It seems that a lot a people don't realize this.

[@chidchid4381]

"Death by Beyblade" - A ROB and gyro combo video.

[@roeyshapiro4878]

Lucario's ledge game is best out by specific characters'a get-up attacks; those which either reach back far enough before attacking, or those who have enough invincibility to completely bypass it. Otherwise, Bowser's neutral get-up sometimes gives him enough time to get through as well. Otherwise, this was a fun and very well-made video! Thanks!

[@calebrong]

For number 5, villager can even pocket XD Villager can fly around the stage then pocket aura sphere ;D Villager can also pocket gyro/move to the other side of the stage Villager can fly around rosa, but WHY WOULD YOU BE USING VILLAGER IN THIS MATCHUP ANYWAY. Villager is number 1. Villager for top tier! XD

[@dracosol4415]

I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't put Duck Hunt on the list not on the honorable mentions. With his can he can cover almost any getup option. Place a can by the ledge can most likely force the opponent to either roll or jump. If they roll then it can lead to a up smash or up tilt. If they jump it could lead to a u-air or n-air but if you stay by the ledge you can up tilt the can, making it switch direction an literally chase your opponent. And if they make a normal get up and shield, blasting the can on them will put them in shield stun and can make a quick grab. I'm sorry for the rant, it's just that Duck Hunt would be great for this list.

[@Relakiin]

No Wario bike? Not even an honorable mention?

[@Fin0fLenster]

Probably due to the amount of time it takes to set up and the fact that you can just wait it out.

[@Relakiin]

It takes less than a second to set up if you ledge cancel it, and you can't wait it out if done right. It covers almost every ledge option, and the remaining ones get covered by Wario

[@PinkArmFlexer]

Shh. Use the lack of coverage on the bike to catch opponents offguard with it.

[@TriburosOnline]

As a Wario main, I can tell yah it doesn't really take that long. If yah didn't know, you can run off the ledge and then bike onto the lip of the ledge to immediately get Wario off of it, and have the bike right next to the ledge. All Wario has to do then is aerial jump back onto the ledge and grab the bike. The entire process takes about 1 second, counting from the point where Wario rides the air-bike. Here's a quick gfy of the process. gfycat.com/GroundedSoulfulGrub I myself am super surprised Wario's bike wasn't somewhere on here. Hell- I think it's scarier than R.O.B's scenarios.

[@Fin0fLenster]

Triburos Yeah I know the jist of how it works. That was a little bit faster than memory was telling me though.

[@beardlessdragon]

Thanks so much for the work you guys do. Your channel is so professional and informative. Keep it up, you have my full support :)

[@JackSmith331]

I'm surprised Corrin isn't on this list. If you just roll over facing away from the ledge and charge a smash attack it covers EVERY OPTION and punishes with a forward smash (with rolling being the most punishable one because of the tipper). The only weakness I can think of is that the opponent gets back on stage by jumping off of the ledge and attacking.

[@JackSmith331]

And if you think that they'll stay on the ledge, side-b them with the tip for early kills!

[@HernanBesaRP]

Yeah I thought her fsmash trap would be in the honorable mentions, although it is fairly easy to dodge compared to the ones in this list

[@Jknight416]

The opponent can still avoid Corrin's Fsmash by letting go of the ledge and then punish it with an aerial or they can simply waiting for the Fsmash to finish charging and then punish Corrin with a getup attack.

[@HernanBesaRP]

JohnKnight416 Yeah, it's powerful but you have to use it sparingly, otherwise people can read it. Usually more useful when quite some time has passed and you haven't used it yet.

[@trulsrohk9]

I don't think you realize how devastating it can be for Corrin to be attacked while doing that. Remember, knockback is increased against opponents charging smash attacks. There are a plethora or aerials and specials and combos that could kill Corrin very early in that scenario. I think it wasn't included due to the massive punishes that you could eat.

[@PurpleFreezerPage]

You know what I love more than Top 10s that are over 10 minutes? Top 5s that are over 10 minutes.

[@johnhavering3543]

best team: jiggs mac villager air ground ledge

[@middlemistred1209]

Working on my ROB game, this video is a GODSEND! Thank you so much, I never knew until now how the Gyro worked with the knockback

[@RongoKong]

Richtig gutes Video ihr late night upload Schlingel ;)

[@BeefySmashDoods]

[@shulkres1590]

Wahrscheinlich ist jetzt gerade die Zeit, in der viele Amis auf KZbin gehen ;)

[@IMGhost589]

+X-Plays Na klar is bei den grad 18:00 Uhr kek

[@voxelfusion9894]

+X-Plays so ist es!

[@RongoKong]

***** sup

[@megaman5920]

if you made a Top Ledge Traps for every character in 1 video, with timestamps in the description for each character, that would be so amazingly cooll :P, awesome video as usual btw!

[@salvador6182]

Why do you have an MLG Sounds app?

[@BeefySmashDoods]

I occasionally troll people on Rust with it for next level saltiness. -Risuno

[@salvador6182]

Beefy Smash Doods seems legit

[@BlasterZ]

+Beefy Smash Doods lmaoo

[@unicornpoo7441]

Link's short-hop down-air is lit Deals a bunch of damage, nice hitbox.

[@etikalovesminecraft7844]

can you make a top 5 edgeguarders video

[@mikesharpmni4264]

Ike must be on it.

[@ramirosandoval41]

ike sucks at edgeguarding compared to characters like villager and pikachu

[@ramirosandoval41]

nvm I forgot about neutral b

[@crazykid2710]

a falcon dance trotting at the ledge can also cover all options on reaction with aerials and grab punishes

[@gifhaysd]

Hi

[@BeefySmashDoods]

Hi!

[@Sualokin3]

Hi

[@jimmyjohnson8443]

Hi

[@jimmyjohnson8443]

Hi

[@DWZBT]

The puns are on point in this video XD. "The ledge fills you with determination." ROB's gyro: "Death by beyblade." Diddy Kong: "He can build a wall of projectiles and make your opponent pay for it."

[@loafin9419]

If I see some Undertale tard in the comments say HE SAID DETERMINATION SO THAT MEANS ITS AN UNDERTALE REFERENCE. I'll scream

[@poogly123]

Must... resist... CAN'T HOLD IT BACK!! Are you saying you'll have a bad time?

[@EJJTheMiner]

+Sam the Awesam LOOOL

[@Vyz3r]

HE SAID DETERMINATION SO THAT MEANS ITS AN UNDERTALE REFERENCE! Now, scream.

[@M3G4T3RR4]

No. He said it FILLS YOU WITH DETERMINATION. Which is a direct quote from the game. The word determination I could understand not being a reference on its own.

[@loafin9419]

+Vyz3r I'll scream and upload a KZbin video of me doing it

[@DonPetVaiVen]

You guys are great. Villager can also just plant the sapling at the ledge and react to getup roll with an up tilt/fsmash and water the tree in the case of neutral getup/attack or jump!

[@viz5012]

"and fills you with determination". That Undertale Quote lmao

[@missNowi]

you just triggered the edgey kids

[@viz5012]

+SolarYoshi Lmao

[@44tharia46]

anything related to determination is now related to undertale

[@theinternetpacifist4898]

+SolarYoshi Tell me about it. I don't really care about UT anymore, was irrelevant to mr by December, but I love the extreme edge from the haters.

[@MacZephyrZ]

If you think everyone this an Undertale reference, you're gonna have a bad time.

[@cenizen]

7:55 "But some super mobile characters can avoid it." Get it? Because he said aVOID it, and it was Sheik.

[@tbanderr]

Beefy-Senpai if you respond my life will be complete

[@BeefySmashDoods]

+Malware *responds*

[@Adam-nk3om]

+Beefy Smash Doods wow ur life is complete my life would be complete if I can ACTUALLY DO A TRUE SHORYUKEN COMBO JEEZ but ............. beefy smash helps

[@tbanderr]

+Beefy Smash Doods keep up the good content mang P.S downloaded Amino just to sub ~~~

[@HatsuneLuka]

I saw u on Alpharad's video yesterday.

[@Adam-nk3om]

+✨Lime Jolteon✨ who

[@WatchTheTrees]

Surprised that Ryu's not on here. Between FADC being able to adjust his positioning at the ledge, FA itself and the turnaround giving him the most deadly coverage in the game, and his U-Tilt. U-Tilt catches neutral getup and jump on most characters and FADC back into U-Tilt catches rolls, if near the ledge, U-Tilt comboes into D-Air and if not, just Shoryuken.

[@Rikudo44]

Was that an Undertale joke at the beginning?

[@BigDeepz]

Yeah lol

[@crustylemonnastycitrusthem7391]

I'm afraid you're the idiot here. he literally quoted exactly from the game, not just the word determination...

[@ShieldLover22]

+KINGPAINTER256 he obviously meant it as a reference, and you know it.

[@sissylonglegsd207]

+KINGPAINTER256 *fills you with determination

[@user-er2dz5dc1z]

Falcon has the ledge jab thingy, and if you read the roll you can fsmash for free. Not saying that this is top 5, but it might be worthy of an honorable mention because of the extra mind games you can throw into it. Also, fox has some crazy traps too

[@derpydog695]

"Gives you determination to get back into the fight" Undertale confirmed

[@jerryroberts9611]

Please no.

[@ShieldLover22]

+Jerry Roberts oh yes

[@anigma974]

Please no

[@csnoot]

The word Determination was here before the 2000s. Undertale was in the works in 2014. Hence every time someone who says the word Determination doesn't mean it was a reference.

[@eyjafjalajokull9046]

pls no

[@ZacPricener]

One of the many reasons I love Mewtwo. Confusion will neutralize almost any of the ledge traps mentioned, or he can just jump around them.

[@louisjones296]

Busting nuts and planting seeds? This was one of the more suggestive Beefy Smash vids :s

[@corvax8644]

This should've been a top ten video. Pacman duck hunt robin and Diddy kong's traps are really good

[@AbjectPermanence]

I like using Thunder Jolts to pressure them into getting up, then using a pivot forward smash with to nail their get up. Depending on character and spacing, I might be able to cover both roll and neutral getup. Pika's forward smash is disjointed, rather fast, and can cover a decent space too, so it can be really safe even if I miss or they getup an unexpected way, and if I nail the timing and pivot just right, it works really well to catch them off guard. Not as much of a frame trape as some of these, but the pressure from jolts rolling across the ground is kind of similar to the pressure of other projectiles featured here. Something worth remembering for Pika players out there. Another weird one I like doing is short hop Thunders in between where they'd end up for the getup and the roll option. I time the short hop Thunder so that the projectile hits his body right before he lands, making the big hitbox come out just slightly in the air. If I can time it right to their getup, I can cover basically every option except dropping down. And if I have Thunder Jolts rolling over the edge? They probably won't drop down. And if I mistime their getup, making it so that Pikachu is still just barely in the air when his body is hit by lightning makes it much easier to escape if they happen to get up and shield/dodge than if I did a flat Thunder on the ground. Something a lot of people may not realize is that aerial Thunder bounces you up as it finishes, then you can safely Quick Attack away while they're stuck in shield stun. The short hop is also a feint, because it makes my opponent thing I'm doing an aerial attack, so they may feel it's safe to roll, neutral getup, or attack getup.

[@SDragonfly]

Robin's is so good. Arcfire, spaced correctly, covers everything but roll which you can cover with downsmash. Downsides obviously are the limit of six arcfire uses, but at worst you get a tome to throw for 18%/big shield damage.

[@Floofv]

0:11 the ledge fills you with DETERMINATION

[@amonke2761]

What i found you can do is : Drop of the ledge and do what i call "quick dodge", Or waste a stock if you just give up. In some frames ( around 3+ frames i think ) after falling off the ledge, you air dodge which negates the ability of the trap to affect you. :) thanks for the info BSD! I hope this helps you Smash fans!

[@ZyflairGriffane]

When you said "Stay calm, stay patient," I was expecting the "Stay Beefy" to follow.

[@AceTrainerJordan]

*the Yoshi mains aggressively double jump away from ledge traps*

[@anura6393]

Oh my god you made me laugh in the first 12 seconds that quote was so out of the blue lmao

[@irok1]

I always wondered why they called Duck Hunt, Duck Hunt Duo. It is different from US to UK isn't it

[@turnipy88]

Here's another good one: G&W's sausages spaced correctly so that the frying pan covers the roll option. It's so easy to gimp characters with a bad recovery, and in order to ever get back to the stage, you have to pay close attention to where the sausages are going. You still usually take a lot of percent..,

[@juanitojoseju]

What about Robin's Arcfire and book setup? Throw the book up right next to the ledge and move to the right or left depending on the side, to cast arcfire on the ledge, while robin waits for the oponent to roll and catch them, if they stay too long in the ledge, they can get hit by arcfire or the book, it is pretty situational since you do not have a book from the get go, and you wiill have to do every step super fast, but I think its worth mentioning it.

[@JimLStone]

My favorite ledge get up option is to drop down, jump and preform an air attack, usually an up air or forward air

[@milton5546]

For the Lucario one, if you main Lucas or Ness, you can jump off ledge, airdodge through him, and then throw up PSI Magnet. You'll have to reverse the magnet if you're lucas though.

[@seeitoldya13]

for fast characters villager can plant the tree on the ledge water it when they get to it while walking back and up tilt. up tilt kills rolls, tree kills normal get up, attack and jump. works to change your ledge game up once in a while

[@M3G4T3RR4]

As a villager main, I've actually used that ledge trap before. But, sometimes, I read them jumping off stage, and I do likewise, axing them into the stage for a stage spike.

[@Ampheras]

Samus has a very powerful ledge trap that deservest to be in the list. Its simply going for the tether trump and following that with a ledge release, jump and chargeshot into the stage. The Chargeshot will cover all the ledge getup options, the only safe way is to get trumped, and so it becomes a 50/50

[@darkshadlegend]

Good information on how to deal with these, but im suprised Ryu's up tilt wasnt an honorable mention to be honest. Good content as always though, keep it up!

[@ortcelo6947]

Kirby's Inhale is pretty good too. Especially if you're on FG and your opponent doesn't know how to button mash. You can jump off and spit them down into the corner and follow up with a gimp if they can make it back up. Or go for disrespect.

[@knighty0220]

You said you found out something which could be big.. I was so hyped for your next video D:

[@buizelfan418]

It surprises me a little bit that DH's can isn't even in the honorable mentions, since well positioned, the can covers nearly every option when you press B to shoot it, even if you stay on the ledge. The dog itself covers the roll and can finish stocks with smashes and his up tilt. If the can hasn't a hitbox in the reticle, staying in the ledge would be safe, but I think that the hitbox itself forces the oponent to do something and it's kinda hard to prevent that situation if performed correctly.

[@MarcyTwoHands]

I'm surprised Samus wasn't up there. Her bomb can cover quite a few options, and her charge shot and zair can also apply great pressure.

[@shivdmanwii]

Great video. However, you guys forgot to mentions Ranai's setup where he just grows the sapling and then waters it and walks back and up tilts if you roll on. The growing tree covers everything except ledge drop and his up tilt covers roll on. Also I think an honorable mention should be made for a shielding sheik with quick reaction speed. Grab covers ledge getup and ledge attack, and OOS fast falled Nair covers all other options(if she drifts back she can catch rolls with the end of nair or a jab) except ledge drop. It's not the hardest punish but very effective at racking up small % and making it tough for the opponent to get back onstage.

[@Dynablade7]

At 12:32, I was so sure he was going to say "Stay calm, stay patient and stay beefy"

[@swansong5960]

Rob and the Wii trainer are the hardest characters for me me to beat. Their God damn projectile combos!!!

[@samuelade]

power shield fam

[@wario_rg]

I think Robin has a relative good Ledge Trap with Arcfire, because the flame on the Ledge covers some getup options, and a roll can be punished by Robin him-/herself. The only thing you have to know is that Arcfire has much Ending Lag, so you have to put the flame before the opponent gets up, but the flame isn't very long active.

[@Borsce]

I think Wario and Corrin at least deserve an honorable mention. Wario has both Chomp and his bike; chomp covers three getup options and the drop & attack just by holding his mouth open (getup attack, jump [with the exception of Shiek], and neutral), and his bike puts up tremendous pressure (with the bike doing like 13-17% per hit and can setup for combos), and the getup roll can just be punished by fsmash or extended hitfox waft (from bike). Corrin has her fsmash at the end of the ledge and her Dragon Lunge. Fsmash can cover every option, besides drop & attack, and her Dragon Lunge can be used on stage for good damage and covers at least two options, and it can be used offstage to punish the opponent staying on the ledge. An honorable mention for these two, and Robin, would have been proper.

[@justin-qr7sy]

Shulk's Air Slash out of shield is actually a very good option / ledge trap.

[@Chmmr]

Almost dying but somehow making your way back to the ledge... It fills you with determination. File saved.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

You forgot that if you up special at the right spot near the ledge you only have to cover the jump or let go because the trampoline would bounce them into your attack covering jump anyway. Combine this with the bell to cover the let go and all options are covered even without hydrant.

[@vilespecter]

Bowser Jr.s up-B is so slept on, I was suprised it wasnt on this list.

[@banana1800]

"It's like a social network for smashers." My lenny senses are tingling!

[@JustAdam123]

"When your opponent is off stage Villager has to plant his seed fast" :^)

[@Neverbugabeagle]

That was awesome! I was looking for something like that. Keep it up! ;)

[@ColgateVT]

Actually curious as to why Pacman was an honorable mention, and DDD took 5th place, when Pacman's seems similar yet he has many more options. That being said, yay for Villy being #1. You can even half-water the sapling and grow it as your opponent tries to get up since the hitbox lasts ageess

[@daphnessnohansenhyrule5600]

If I remember well, Rosalina can position Luma in such a way that he starts to jab right on the ledge, making it almost impossible to grab it. Dabuz did it once on Nairo I think.

[@UnfunnyValentine]

I feel like bowser's up b should have been in the honourable mentions at least. It covers all approaches except for letting go of the ledge, comes out fast, and is really hard to punish as most attacks just clash with it instead of hitting bowser.

[@weirdo1343]

Yeah, Bowser is a really good ledge trapper with his Down Air and onstage Up B

[@mikeroux2652]

You never mentioned the alternate version of villagers ledge trap. Ranai does it a lot. When you plant the tree, plant it literally as far to the end of the stage as possible and when you water it, the growing animation hitbox will hit the opponent on the ledge. It's way faster than growing and having to chop it down. A only real downside to this is getting the position right can be super hard when in an actual match but the trick is to run to the end of the stage and roll as far left or right as you can then perfect pivoting towards the middle of the stage and it will be lined up perfectly. You know you did it right when the bottom of the stump is halfway-ish off stage.

[@kentburns]

Samus' bomb can combo for a couple really powerful edge traps. Just spam it above the edge and it'll knock them right off. although, I guess that's more edge guarding. . .

[@moustruct_stuffs3926]

All of these Ledge Traps look epic, but on my opinion, I can't decide who wins. But who I want to see next is Sonic, Kirby, Mario, Peach, Little Mac, Ganondorf, Shiek and Ness.