Smash's Garbage Characters: Master Hand and Crazy Hand

[@ZachHonest]

I just wanted to Thank you guys for watching the video! Keep thriving out there!

[@pigeonleader]

The idea of HungryBox raging due to losing to a Master Hand player in tourney is funny af for me

[@yuui9893]

Just imagine a crazy hand wave dashing and L canceling vs a fox

[@Eldoofus]

Can Crazy Hand even L?

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

They'll just take one. ​@@Eldoofus

[@GusGato6969]

I love how these boss characters are ranked and analyzed despite the fact that they aren’t even supposed to be used

[@wusstunes]

Hands are goofy but I think giga Bowser could definitely be legal.

[@cstick2664]

Wouldn’t the hands be the best characters since they can’t die?

[@Farkonso]

They suck at killing so lose to time out every time

[@smoceany9478]

time out

[@ebiceric1050]

but they would at least get one kill.

[@smoceany9478]

@@ebiceric1050 clearly youve never played them, they cannot kill, if a player is half conscious, they can avoid all of the moves and not die

[@ElijahW2003]

I mean if they lose no stocks and assuming it's a one-on-one then I don't see how timeout equals a loss

[@Smashlord009]

“Why master hand is GARBAGE in Melee, and how he changed in Ultimate”

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

In the one level you play as him, he actually has reasonable frame data and can move around, so he'd actually be better.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

*"Why master hand is GARBAGE in 64, and how that was never changed"

[@theboostedbubba6432]

I actually am a self proclaimed Master Hand main after I discovered that SmashBoards post on him a few years back. Crazy Hand seems to be overall a small bit faster than Master Hand. Still doesn't save him from being garbage lmao

[@ZachHonest]

yo mad respect for at least trying him out

[@RisingJericho]

"The Gengar Tier" God damnit, this just makes me wish Gengar was playable

[@josephmaolin504]

Hello. I help lab in a server that actually tries to give the illegal characters a "meta" and have done videos on both Wireframes and Giga Bowser. Even with 20XX and setting the Hand player to Stamina, their moves are so slow and predictable that even a casual player can avoid getting hit at all. They are awful even if you do manage to create an arbitrary ruleset both within and without mods. The only thing really left underlabbed is running two hands with one player using two controllers. Their moves are slow and have infinite buffer, so one person could reasonably do this. Another point of labbing is which hand is better in the Hand vs Hand MU. They play like a chess version of Rock, Paper Scissors. I have made three charts, but labbing this is painfully tedious. There is footage we have of an actual MH main crashing streams as well, so make of that what you will, lol.

[@josephmaolin504]

Oh, and nice video. I always appreciate stuff like this. Subbed as well.

[@Whurlpuul]

If you think these characters are bad, maybe you just can't *hand* le them

[@ZachHonest]

These are the type of comments I like to see.

[@Whurlpuul]

@@ZachHonest I try. ❤️

[@mauricesteel4995]

Gotta hand it to you, that crazy pun was masterful.

[@BirdieSenpai]

Bowser main here, from back when MagnuM, CHAOTIC, and I were the top Bowser players in the world. Hoping to perhaps see a Giga Bowser video someday if there's enough content there to work with! To be honest, his entire gameplay is just spamming Up B.

[@PraiseBeToJesusChrist]

I'm a self proclaimed Master Hand main and I've been playin him for a bit, he's a really interesting character (who admittedly isn't all that great). My plan is to play him in a tournament that doesn't have him banned but that'll be difficult lol. :3

[@Mr.madmight266]

I think Codename Melee should try to make them more like actual smash characters and shrink them a bit. There's a lot you could do and create with a pair of hands after all. I would also hope that Codename melee would let you play as both wireframes in 1 just like the Ice Climbers. I think that could work well on Pichu too.

[@Grim_Reaper81]

Considering they cant loose that would make them the best 😂

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

5:30 Say that again? World of Light?

[@randomgem8087]

i'm surprised no one has ever used them in tournaments

[@vista1456786]

Wait , the way you were talking in this video (people actually coming up with counter pick stages for M.hand's bad match ups). recently I learnt G.Bowser actually did see competitive play. Are there some players that actually used him on SLippi (Ithink that is what it is called) or something? would be very interested in watching that.

[@twelvevoltage]

Love that your channel can still teach me more about Melee

[@talkingbenson5487]

your videos are getting more and more like asumsaus ^^ He is an inspiration for you, isn't he?

[@ZachHonest]

100% he is the goat for sure when it comes to Smash content.

[@BeeBN]

if they were legal theyd be the lamest characters in the game, all you'd have to do is get a percent lead and ledgestall

[@emilyharrison5109]

your editing keeps improving with each video, this is your best one yet

[@WitherVideos]

Great video, you deserve more subs!

[@randytyson]

You can almost say theese chaaracters are shorthanded

[@ry-x]

idk I think the hands are just unexplored

[@LillyWhiteFairy]

Master and crazy up until brawl were canonically by far the most powerful beings in smash yet were somehow the worst characters.

[@Hoof60]

That Hbox clip hahaha

[@bigkebizino8970]

Spectacular Video

[@Monhamd1000]

More like Master and Crazy bunching bags.

[@jamalsherefjr6572]

There's a mod of playable master hand in smash ultimate and he can be ko'd

[@aname4931]

Oh man I need to play earthbound again

[@user-pf6rz5re1w]

They're not even bad, if it was a tournament set they'd win everytime.

[@BeeBN]

they'd lose to invincible ledgestalls and time outs.

[@defibillytor6639]

But how do they die if you don't play on stamina mode?

[@ZachHonest]

Some people were talking about making them a special ruleset or they would lose once they hit a certain percentage.

[@ZAPRST8879]

​@@ZachHonest kinda like how the ssbu boss mod does where they die at around sudden death percent (300%)

[@sablesalt]

I still they aren't that bad as they seem considering that to this day nobody has taken a single stock off a hand player in the standerd melee ruleset.

[@jakobkinz123456]

this was fun lol

[@vannoah]

Sd master hand on 20xx anyone?

[@trickjacko8482]

Why are you complaining about these characters when you know they weren't designed to be playable?