Snapdragon 8 Elite vs iPhone 16 Pro: Peak Performance & Sustained Performance

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Gary Explains

Gary Explains

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@shiba7651
@shiba7651 2 ай бұрын
It would be interesting comparing it with the dimensity 9400 when both are available
@happyatheists9361
@happyatheists9361 2 ай бұрын
Mtk suks
@NAVREZ206
@NAVREZ206 2 ай бұрын
​@@happyatheists9361who told you ?
@whydoineedname4932
@whydoineedname4932 2 ай бұрын
@@happyatheists9361 welcome to 2015
@vickeythegamer7527
@vickeythegamer7527 2 ай бұрын
​@@whydoineedname4932 software support is really bad on mtk
@Mr_Fatherboard
@Mr_Fatherboard 2 ай бұрын
I have the vivo x200 dimensity 9400 now. It's good. I was going for better battery life. The camera is crazy good
@mortaza3840
@mortaza3840 2 ай бұрын
The 8 Elite GPU is very powerful…
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 2 ай бұрын
Even the SD8G3 had a good GPU on paper.. but when you used it in games, the differences was huge.. Warzone Mobile is limited to 980p on Android, running about 10fps lower, and also with 99,x% GPU load (alias GPU capped..) meanwhile the iPhone is capable to run the game 1300p with better fps, and only on 93% GPU load (alias not even GPU capped, it's thermal capped, the GPU itself capable even a bit more..) So benchmarks are not tell you everything, the 980p vs 1300p resolution diff is huge.. (also iPhone have a bit higher rendering resolution in almost every games, so simply the fps comparisons arn't even fair.. if you compare the about 1600x700 rendering resolution with about 1800x780 the different in calculated amount of pixels per frame are about 30% more..)
@cristianJoker2512
@cristianJoker2512 2 ай бұрын
​​@@TamasKiss-yk4st i can smell a iPhone biass here 🤣, definitely x elite will be over iPhone, the real problem every smartphone has its the power and eventually u will be limited by temperature, they better optimize the chips for longer run, that 3dmark score must really hurt 10k over 24k
@manmathgodre5360
@manmathgodre5360 2 ай бұрын
​@@TamasKiss-yk4st8 gen 3 had lower Single score also it is just about the optimisation
@mihirshetye4624
@mihirshetye4624 2 ай бұрын
Even the 8 Gen 2 and 3 GPU was beefy and much ahead of the competition,what the 8 Elite is doing at least going by the initial benchmarks is making huge improvements when it comes to single core performance an area where Apple's Bionic silicon used to reign supreme.
@MatheusFerreira-si4ju
@MatheusFerreira-si4ju 2 ай бұрын
Newer arm gpu is more efficient and faster than X elite gpu. Watch geekerwan video comparing.
2 ай бұрын
Samsung Dex and similar functionality starts to be really useful with this kind of performance. Imagine the phone being able be docked to external screen, keyboard and mouse at work and home there should soon be something usable as a desktop computer.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
That is a sentiment I have heard expressed a few times. For me personally, the idea of a dock for a phone that turns it into a desktop isn't a good one, and not because of the performance. For me, I don't want to undock my phone, drive to the shops to buy bread, then dock my phone again to carry on working. I just want a laptop, which I leave on the desk, go to the shops with my phone, and come back and find my laptop exactly where I left it with everything as it was. Every time I leave my desk, to walk the dog, to take one of my kids to their next thing, to get a parcel from a courier, whatever, I often need my phone and I don't want to dock it/undock 100 times a day. Nope.
@dreamysunny
@dreamysunny 2 ай бұрын
If it is connected only with USB type c cable how complex that would be?​@@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
It isn't about the complexity, it isn't physically hard to dock / undock.
@ContraVsGigi
@ContraVsGigi 2 ай бұрын
Could be a once in a while thing, but I would like my ohone to be a phone and computer work, its own thing.
@adrianoawz2676
@adrianoawz2676 2 ай бұрын
@@GaryExplains I dont really get your point whats the problem with undocking/docking it a lot of times
@NightWiz11
@NightWiz11 2 ай бұрын
Great! Cant wait for S25🔥
@searklarak
@searklarak 2 ай бұрын
Hi Gary, any feedback and news on power consumption between these two SoCs?
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
Watch geekerwan's video of 8 elite. He compared it to the D9400 and A18 pro performance and power consumption.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 2 ай бұрын
Interesting and impressive performance it seems. Maybe these chips need a better thermal solution. Perhaps an all aluminum back to help with heat dissipation.
@happyatheists9361
@happyatheists9361 2 ай бұрын
Speed test g would be more fun 😑
@Jojinckurian
@Jojinckurian 2 ай бұрын
Yeah 😒
@maj429
@maj429 2 ай бұрын
What ever happened to speed test g? Did Gary ever explain why he stopped?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I have explained, many times. It wasn't popular enough to merit the time/effort.
@ejcubing3622
@ejcubing3622 2 ай бұрын
Which is why I stopped watching his vid
@akarimsiddiqui7572
@akarimsiddiqui7572 2 ай бұрын
I liked the sustained performance charts. Hopefully, we can get a chart that shows sustained performance with temperature, # cores and frequency normalized to compare single core improvements from last gen.
@lexview978
@lexview978 2 ай бұрын
I just ran Geekbench on the 16 Pro Max and got 8759 MC and 3541 SC, would that be down to more favourable thermals due to the larger form factor?
@Nemesis_678
@Nemesis_678 2 ай бұрын
Last time I checked the 16 pro had some scheduling issues so it was unable to reach peak power draw. That's not the case for the pro max though
@oxyg3n520
@oxyg3n520 2 ай бұрын
I think scores vary a lot depending on if someone ran the benchmark on a warm day or if they ran it outside on a brisk evening.
@madalinradion
@madalinradion 2 ай бұрын
Always take into account the ambiental temp, the weather is getting colder right ?
@isaacmchsrt8
@isaacmchsrt8 2 ай бұрын
Yes i also had 2 16 pro max,512 and 256 and both score 8800-8900 multi core and 3500-3600 single core consistenly on geekbench 6
@FlM1hai
@FlM1hai 2 ай бұрын
on iOS 18.1 I´m geting 9377 multi-core and 3621 single-score.
@heliosak
@heliosak 2 ай бұрын
Snapdragon is finally getting things right. 🎉
@asianstud7
@asianstud7 2 ай бұрын
they have been getting things right for a long time bud.
@ejcubing3622
@ejcubing3622 2 ай бұрын
You should save this for when Samsung finally does it lol
@asdasdasd-gx7zs
@asdasdasd-gx7zs 2 ай бұрын
Can you please add speedometer benchmark to your tests? Web benchmarks (and speedometer specifically) have been exposing the difference between promised by Qualcomm and actual single core performance for many years without even any need for spoofed apps.
@ultravisitors
@ultravisitors 2 ай бұрын
Damn! 3011 on single core? I get like 3080 on my 7900X, are these scores even comparable between x86 and ARM?
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if it's comparable, probably isn't but your desktop CPU won't throttle at all, so is far better than any arm chip on a smartphone.
@Kirmo13
@Kirmo13 2 ай бұрын
no
@ulikemyname6744
@ulikemyname6744 2 ай бұрын
Yup, the test is exactly the same.
@aItaccount
@aItaccount 2 ай бұрын
​@@Saif0412even on a desktop you will require proper cooling though
@arya_amg
@arya_amg 2 ай бұрын
They are 100% comparable But phones will thermal throttle (I don't think they will on a single core test though)
@osama_jason
@osama_jason 2 ай бұрын
Can you do a speed test to see how the performance does in real tasks, such as gaming and video rendering.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
I guess you haven't see my video: 5 Reasons Why Smartphone "Speed Tests" Are Fundamentally Flawed - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWebn6iMrbSLl6c
@aniruddhapaturkar1884
@aniruddhapaturkar1884 2 ай бұрын
Gary really thinks and knows his stuff. I haven’t even watched the video beyond 1:38 mark but as soon as he mentioned he included s24 ultra as well in comparison, it shows that he knows exactly what he’s doing.
@israellewis5484
@israellewis5484 2 ай бұрын
wdym?
@aniruddhapaturkar1884
@aniruddhapaturkar1884 2 ай бұрын
@ s24 ultra has different thermal cooling mechanism than xiaomi and hence they would have different performance under stress even though they share the same processor underneath. So, it would be a good reference point for comparison. So one can expect what gains we can expect once s25 ultra launches.
@aizen_yadava
@aizen_yadava 2 ай бұрын
I'm actually happy for the CPU gains specially in the single core department where apple was always way ahead
@panzlock
@panzlock 22 күн бұрын
This might actually be higher with future optimization.
@Djoki1
@Djoki1 2 ай бұрын
Imagine an nvidia shield type device with this chip. Would be a killer micro console hooked up to your tv/monitor for either native android games or emulation.
@MukeshKumar-iz7hz
@MukeshKumar-iz7hz 2 ай бұрын
Before watching.. i believe this would gonna be the toughest one in comparison over past few yrs!
@ThePowerLover
@ThePowerLover 2 ай бұрын
You need to test them in 3DMark Steel Nomad Light, it's way more representative of heavy graphics performance.
@dennish6465
@dennish6465 2 ай бұрын
Hey Gary, any idea if we will be seeing similar performance improvements in the midrange Snapdragon chips to follow the 8 Elite?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
I doubt Qualcomm will use the Oryon CPU in the midrange this year.
@byssmal
@byssmal 2 ай бұрын
Bad news. Qualcomm cannot make any new arm based SoC after 8 elite because Arm already suspended their licence.
@hjf3022
@hjf3022 2 ай бұрын
​@@byssmalit's unlikely that this is permanent, instead it is a strong arm negotiation tactic by arm. It would be really really foolish for them to just cut ties with their highest customer.
@felipe367
@felipe367 24 күн бұрын
@@byssmalfun fact Apple was an early investor in Arm but due to economic shortcomings back In the day Apple sold their stake but made a tidy profit 🎉
@Govt.Of_Wakanda
@Govt.Of_Wakanda 2 ай бұрын
let see the performance gain in a ROG or Red magic phone ..where throttling is kept at minimum
@icentuche90
@icentuche90 2 ай бұрын
Bring back #Speed Test G
@felipe367
@felipe367 24 күн бұрын
I think the iPhone dropping sharply and keep a constant line is a good idea regarding thermals unlike the Elite which runs higher for longer thus quite possibly generating more heat : iPhone runs hexacore top whack is 4.05ghz where the Elite runs an OCTACORE top whack is 4.3gh even its efficiency cores run about 3ghz which is just silly
@Noodles.FreeUkraine
@Noodles.FreeUkraine 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Gary. I don't keep tabs on things all the time, but last time I checked, Apple was mopping the floor with other SoCs. So glad that they're cruising right past Tim the Bean Counter now. As is evident via the M4, they had all the means to create a proper sibling for a phone, but simply chose not to because $$$. So glad I skipped the 15s.
@artim96
@artim96 2 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning: the Realme costs like half of the 16 Pro. A comparably priced phone might fare even better, as more money could be spent on improving thermal design and maybe some software side tweaks.
@margery9436
@margery9436 Ай бұрын
Are you gonna do a video on the new M4 Pro Mini?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains Ай бұрын
If you mean the Mac Mini with the M4 Pro, then no as unfortunately I have no access to such a device.
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan 2 ай бұрын
Snapdragon 8 Elite
@morselrafez3722
@morselrafez3722 2 ай бұрын
What is the connection of temperature with the graph?? I could not read both the score and the temperature at the same time. I may be missing something, or the graph is made wrongly. Including proper Starting and End temperature would have been very useful as some brands like to keep thermal throttling at higher temperature, resulting in better sustainability but a burning experience.
@oldtechnology
@oldtechnology 5 күн бұрын
I wonder what they can do with some propper cooling.
@kingtuckgesus8879
@kingtuckgesus8879 2 ай бұрын
This was a solid opportunity to compare it to the dimensity 9400 I would say that's more Apple's to apples
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 2 ай бұрын
Performance seems a bit worse than other 8 elite phones like xiaomi 15 pro performs a bit better maybe cooling system and software optimzation difference
@7102186
@7102186 2 ай бұрын
It would be a more fair comparison when you do it with xiaomi 15 pro and s25 ultra, so then you can compare the same vendor tuning, cooling and software as well
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
OK, sure, please tell me where I can get an S25 Ultra and I will go and test it 🤦‍♂️
@nothing9220
@nothing9220 2 ай бұрын
He us from the future ​😂😂😂😂😂😂 ​@@GaryExplains
@7102186
@7102186 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains u can get xiaomi 15 pro from China which sounds easier than the future thing. And I meant that u got to do it gain once those are released (internationally for xiaomi)
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@7102186 I am sure that each of the future phones will be tested and the results published somewhere, but that isn't what I do on this channel I can't make a video for every phone released. The Realme GT 7 Pro is one of the first with the 8 Elite, I used it plus two popular phones that had the previous generation of processor, simple as that.
@7102186
@7102186 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains that's unfortunate because this got to be more scientific compared to the other ones out there Anyways,it was a good job with this video
@AchwaqKhalid
@AchwaqKhalid 2 ай бұрын
I'm concerned about *the power consumption* 🔋 (and overall temperature CPU + Battery)
@Nemesis_678
@Nemesis_678 2 ай бұрын
Sir Gary plz use 3D mark steel nomad light for GPU tests in the future. Wildlife extreme isn't so cross platform. Although apple still loses 😌😌. Read somewhere its more closer to desktop grade and whatnot.
@alexanderleitner8143
@alexanderleitner8143 2 ай бұрын
While this tests are great, is RayTracing really comparable? I mean we all know, how normal rendering is performed, but is the RayTracing technology the same standard? We all know, it's a compromise between accuracy and speed, therefore it can be tweaked allot. It's an uncountable infinite problem.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 2 ай бұрын
I do worry, though, that despite Qualcomm's claims, the Snapdragon 8 Elite will run a bit warmer than the A18 Pro SoC. I wouldn't be surprised the Samsung Galaxy S25 models due around February 2025 will need 4,500 to 5,400 mAh batteries depending on model. That could make the Galaxy S25 models quite heavy compared to the iPhone 16 models.
@fod79
@fod79 2 ай бұрын
Doesn't seem to throttle more, so I don't see any evidence it produces more heat.
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
That's not true. Geekerwan has tested the oneplus 13 with sd 8 elite and said it's the coolest running phone he's ever tested. Max temp was 39.8°C while the 16 pro max with A18 pro ran significantly hotter at 44.3°C. This means the samsung S25s will run cooler than 16 pro max and have better battery life.
@AllConcord
@AllConcord 2 ай бұрын
obviously this guy never research his information. 8 elite never heats up. your expose to false media😂
@AllConcord
@AllConcord 2 ай бұрын
your expose to false media😂
@MadaraUchihaapache
@MadaraUchihaapache 2 ай бұрын
Why is there an axis for temperature in stress test. Also why it's same axis as performance.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
It isn't the same axis, the temperature axis is on the right sided.
@MadaraUchihaapache
@MadaraUchihaapache 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains doesn't matter where you place that, the axis will be defined by the direction it points to. You moving 5 meters east don't change the direction of North isn't?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Eh?
@frankcellini9363
@frankcellini9363 2 ай бұрын
Its important to note that the GT 7 Pro has more cores and off course will perform better in tasks that use all cores than a device that has less cores. So really not a fair test of the same hardware. The single core test is more important as it shows that the Apple core is better design than the other company(s) core designs and indeed the recent release of Apple M4 devices, iMac, MacMini and MacBookPro laptops that have more cores show extraordinary class leading performance. As Apple stated in presentation they have the world's fastest CPU core.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Yes, and no. Historically 6 larger cores in the Apple have always beaten 8 smaller cores in the Qualcomm in multi-core test,\even with less cores. This changed recently as single core score improved in the Qualcomm processors. It is a fair test if you consider what it is doing.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
World fastest CPU Cores- according to only apple 😂😂😂
@frankcellini9363
@frankcellini9363 2 ай бұрын
Fast single-core performance is what makes a smartphone feel “snappy,” especially in everyday interactions where apps are quickly opened, closed, or switched between, and when responsiveness is noticeable in short, burst-like tasks. UI response, Web processing, small apps, photo capture, voice recognition, loading times, real time sensors like GPS all benefit from single core performance. This is beneficial for the great majority of people. Its the overall design, performance of the smart phone that matters to the majority of us, the memory bandwidth, speed the OS, video display quality, performance, multiple other ancillary chips like wifi, bluetooth, etc. Testing software might not be compiled, optimised for different OSs and so not producing fair results.
@frankcellini9363
@frankcellini9363 2 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ We'll see when people will soon get their hands on the gear and run lots of tests.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
@@frankcellini9363 people in china already did 😏😏 go and see them in bili bili they are far better than apple offering in both heat and sustained performance and remember both OnePlus 13 and iqoo 13 are launched in china
@zenobikraweznick
@zenobikraweznick 2 ай бұрын
Very nice but... how do such benchmarks translate to my daily use such as Google maps, docs, and such ?
@nutcracker81
@nutcracker81 2 ай бұрын
The S24 Ultra Wild Life Extreme Stress Test dropped 20% not 40% right?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
The S24 Ultra ends on 3079, so 5158 to 3079, which is -40%.
@69leonite
@69leonite 2 ай бұрын
​@@GaryExplains in video it dropped 4115 but the line below 4000.
@nutcracker81
@nutcracker81 2 ай бұрын
@@GaryExplains I thought you're using 4115. Didn't see the bottom figure 😅
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@69leonite Actually now looking at it, I put the wrong label on the graph... The Xiaomi drops to 4115 at run 9, the S24 is actually 3474. If you follow the line you will see it is just above 3000 at the end. My bad. Sorry.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@steventan6381 So it turns out I put the wrong label on the graph... The Xiaomi drops to 4115 at run 9, the S24 is actually 3474. If you follow the line you will see it is just above 3000 at the end. My bad. Sorry.
@ContraVsGigi
@ContraVsGigi 2 ай бұрын
Apple is very wise to have very good single core performance, which is fact matters more, as not many need that huge multicore performance. Most of the time you just run one app and need it to be snappy. Just like a computer, single core is for most people the most important metric.
@HudsonArnold-i1q
@HudsonArnold-i1q 2 ай бұрын
Ur an actual bot Thats not what single core is for
@neiliewheeliebin
@neiliewheeliebin 24 күн бұрын
Better battery life is all I'm interested in at this point
@pratik_tikle
@pratik_tikle 2 ай бұрын
Though the 8 Elite is powerful, it would need a good android OS to take its full potential
@saw0man
@saw0man 2 ай бұрын
Any ray tracing games for android?
@MySUHIT
@MySUHIT 2 ай бұрын
NFS, Arena Breakout, Delta Force.
@curbsidetech
@curbsidetech 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like 2025 will be interesting
@juukoisaac9421
@juukoisaac9421 2 ай бұрын
4:04 but why would they all immediately start at hight temps on the first run
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Eh? They don't.
@juukoisaac9421
@juukoisaac9421 2 ай бұрын
Ooh. The temperature is shockingly high for a mobile Soc It had me really worried over there
@jg14gerhard_bar
@jg14gerhard_bar 2 ай бұрын
@@juukoisaac9421 Ahhhh I see where your going wrong in your interpretation. the thin dotted lines are the ones for the temperature progression, you'll notice how they're only increasing at the start
@emmanuelmwanzia
@emmanuelmwanzia 2 ай бұрын
Snapdragon 8 Elite vs Dimenity 9400 on Speedtest G that's all we're asking Gary
@DrAdityaReddy
@DrAdityaReddy 2 ай бұрын
We want speed test g back
@Sivabharani
@Sivabharani 2 ай бұрын
Gary explains 👌🫶
@seppeseppe-jq7nr
@seppeseppe-jq7nr 2 ай бұрын
Simple for long gaming , all soc are same ... but with a cooler you fine with the new snapdragon ❤ thx for the test , no need to upgrade to 25 ultra , i cant use cooler in my train and bus 😢
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
You're blatantly wrong. Even after throttling, 8 elite sustains over 30% more GPU performance than 8 gen 3.
@hansmichel9693
@hansmichel9693 2 ай бұрын
With iOS 18.1 a18pro gained 300 in Single Core and 800 in multicore compared to your Date
@quantumdot7393
@quantumdot7393 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why you keep mentioning the difference in core count. As if all cores are created equal. Yes the Snapdragon has 8 cores but the size of the CPU cluster is very similar to the A18 pro and they are both on the same node. Qualcomm has smaller cores and they have more of them.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
You don't think I should mention the number of cores at all? Just keep quiet about it?
@quantumdot7393
@quantumdot7393 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains maybe I am projecting here. But people who understand less about this kind of stuff use that as a justification for performance differences. Saying things like. Well apple can just add two more cores and beat Qualcomm. I feel mentioning that right after a benchmark score feed into that. The two CPU clusters are equivalent size wise so the performance numbers don't need these kinds of clarification.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@quantumdot7393 First, I didn't say that Apple could just add two more cores, that wouldn't work for the reasons you have alluded to, there is a reason why Apple chips only have 6 cores. Having said that the discussion around 6 larger cores versus 8 smaller cores isn't a simple one and it is relevant to say that the multi-core score, which was +11% higher, was achieved with 8 cores, of which the fastest two scored 11% less on single core. That is why we have a multicore and single core tests. There was a long period where Apple did better on multi-core and single-score, scoring higher on multi-core with 6 cores compared to 8 on Android. I said the same things then pointing out that Apple achieved the better multi-core score with less cores. Now things are different I am still saying the same and pointing out the differences.
@quantumdot7393
@quantumdot7393 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains I know you understand. I am saying others don't. And I fail to understand why the number of cores matter to the scores
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@quantumdot7393 Are you genuinely saying that you don't understand why the number of cores matter in a multi-core test? Do you understand what the multi-core test is?
@kreamypie
@kreamypie 2 ай бұрын
SD 8 Elite vs Dimensity 9400 performance comparison incoming ?
@BeamerTime354
@BeamerTime354 2 ай бұрын
Competition is good 👍. Now real world benchmarks running actual games the iPhone is going to be much closer to the elite. Now it’s time for apple to come back swinging 👊
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
Go and see the full video he said in sustained performance you can get 30% more performance than A18 pro from 8 elite 😂😂😂 isheeps are just 😂😂😂
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
Isheep always will be isheep 😂😂😂
@xperiafan5370
@xperiafan5370 2 ай бұрын
9:14 You forgot to mention that Realme admitted it to be a software issue and promised to fix the crashes and random temp spikes with an update.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣 if you only watched for another 6 seconds! 🤦🏼‍♂️
@raptorgaming7242
@raptorgaming7242 2 ай бұрын
Due to snap 8 elite mostly performance core consumes and Wuthering waves consumes cpu core mostly due to unreal engine 5.0 the phone will heat more than 45degree. Compared to 8 gen 3 which only goes to 42 degree depending on phones and environment. So this is an issue in hot summer months.
@heinzbongwasser2715
@heinzbongwasser2715 2 ай бұрын
Wallah nice performance!
@peanutbutter604
@peanutbutter604 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what temperature means on the grafs 🤔 run faster and hotter ? 🔥
@sina6993
@sina6993 2 ай бұрын
Yes and more energy is being used as well.
@israellewis5484
@israellewis5484 2 ай бұрын
The new chip is running cooler in the realme than the xiaomi and offers better initial performance. But after 10 runs, the gap between then shrinks significantly. 8 ELITE IN realme losses 33% perf in that WLE Stress Test after 10 runs. The Xiaomi with 8G3 only lost ~17% of it's performance after 10 runs. It doesn't matter the phone per se, look at the data. I told Gary in the last video that putting 8 large cores made no sense whatsoever. Just beating Apple isn't really much of an achievement. The drop off in performance is too large to justify wanting those cores above 4.2Ghz and 3.8Ghz respectively iirc.
@Shahzad12357
@Shahzad12357 2 ай бұрын
​@@israellewis5484 sir who's running 10 benchmark tests on a phone back to back anyway?
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
@@israellewis5484 8 elite doesn't use 8 big cores it uses only 2 big cores and 6 small cores. The microarchitecture of the small cores is different (cut-down) from that of the large cores and they're also physically smaller. Where qualcomm fumbled was by making the clocks of the smaller efficiency cores so high as that leads to higher temps and more throttling.
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
@@israellewis5484 Also, Qualcomm beat Apple in perf/watt too not just in peak performance. Watch geekerwan's video on 8 elite.
@customessaywriter4388
@customessaywriter4388 2 ай бұрын
Android will only catch up with iPhone when phone manufacturers start working with processor manufacturers. As of now, the latter will continue creating powerful processors on paper, with impressive benchmarks, while the former struggle to optimize them for power efficiency and heat management in practical usage.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Eh? You don't think the smartphone makers work closely with the processor makers, of course they do. Who told you they don't?
@customessaywriter4388
@customessaywriter4388 2 ай бұрын
@@GaryExplains Enlighten me please. My belief is that there is a big gap between them, especially on resource optimization and efficiency. Similar issue to Windows PCs & laptops.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
No, simply not true. The drivers and tuning for Android and Linux comes directly from the chip maker (in this case Qualcomm) and then the phone maker can tweak if it wants to.
@bulletpunch9317
@bulletpunch9317 16 күн бұрын
Start doing steel nomad light instead of wildlife
@frankcellini9363
@frankcellini9363 2 ай бұрын
Apple just released M4 MacMini, MacBooks and iMac and the MacBook Max has a cpu has cracked the 4000 geekBench Single Core test and this I believe is the first to surpass this figure. It also scores 192,532 in GeekBench Metal GPU, extraordinary. Why are these Apple chips beating all others... Pleaaaaaase Explain!
@enocharyan5838
@enocharyan5838 2 ай бұрын
I think you should also add the dimensity 9400
@vanz2294
@vanz2294 2 ай бұрын
People in the comments don't seem to understand what "Peak Performance" is. They're just blinded by the SD 8 Elite's "Peak Performance" that only last for 20 minutes before it throttles. Lol.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Is there a difference between peak performance and sustained performance for the iPhone?
@joshwayop
@joshwayop 2 ай бұрын
the GB6 scores for the iphone 16 is wrong, that was IOS18.0 scores, they score higher now on IOS 18.1
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
Cope
@trollmaster5791
@trollmaster5791 2 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ Cope harder android fan.
@AhsanLMHY
@AhsanLMHY 2 ай бұрын
Single core is the most important
@fod79
@fod79 2 ай бұрын
GPU is quite important.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
And 8 elite is very close to A18 pro in single core 😂😂
@bluefire8080
@bluefire8080 26 күн бұрын
Throw a black shark 4 pro cooler on that reduces 40c temp and you will have zero throttling. My s 23 ultra cant physically throttle with this cooler which is the best in the world combined with s 23 ultra having a superior vapor chamber
@ikubarus.6966
@ikubarus.6966 2 ай бұрын
Should be SD 8 elite vs A18 pro
@azzadhadiz6304
@azzadhadiz6304 2 ай бұрын
Supposely dont need 2 sdg3..must include dimensoty 9400 or at least 9300
@MySUHIT
@MySUHIT 2 ай бұрын
I think realme is using inferior end of the chips, iQOO seems to have more powerful versions with single core scores going 3221+ and multi core above 11k
@michealadebz
@michealadebz 2 ай бұрын
5:50 odd. My 16 pro gets 9053.
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck 2 ай бұрын
When the Samsung version comes out it'll be the 3200 SC score.
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 2 ай бұрын
Samsung throttles bad so even if it has more clocks it might not be much faster if at all especially in multi core score they do worse on samsung but I've seen other results from China getting 3100-3200 with xiaomi 15 pro and oneplus 13 etc
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck 2 ай бұрын
@sbrader97 true, maybe let's wait for the Red Magic or the Asus Rog versions.
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 2 ай бұрын
@@BeyondEllisBeck Yeah and when the other brands get to use the overclocked/for galaxy variant it will get some crazy scores and this is without armv9 hopefully they can sort it out in the courts in time for the 8 elite gen 2 whatever they will call it hopefully it should be armv9 architecture as it boosts the scores in geekbench by at least a couple hundred just by having armv9 instructions on top of ipc gains and any clock speed increases
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck 2 ай бұрын
@@sbrader97 Snapdragon has officially made a breakthrough that makes android phones finally catch up to CPU power of Apple SoCs.
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 2 ай бұрын
@@BeyondEllisBeck Because they purchased Nuvia who has ex apple chip designer now working for qualcomm and remember this 1st generation is technically based off the work from nuvia phoenix cores from 2020 so the next version might be also a big leap again to overtake apple in single core too
@allancordeiro8798
@allancordeiro8798 2 ай бұрын
Mediatek Dimensity 9400 👑
@osman_zengin
@osman_zengin 2 ай бұрын
Nintendo Switch succesor should have used the 8 Elite or X Elite but they will use an underpowered chip as a Nintendo tradition.
@AlecRedfield1037
@AlecRedfield1037 2 ай бұрын
Nintendo won't use these chips. They cost $100 in a phone and a Nintendo Switch Oled costs $300. Too expensive for the Switch.
@enayatullahbashimi5033
@enayatullahbashimi5033 2 ай бұрын
Your numbers on wildlife stress test do not make sense. For xiaomi the difference is only 21%.
@happyatheists9361
@happyatheists9361 2 ай бұрын
What about arm lawsuit?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
What about it?
@DravkatRakhmonessis
@DravkatRakhmonessis 2 ай бұрын
You should pray to god it doesn't cost qualcomm an arm
@happyatheists9361
@happyatheists9361 2 ай бұрын
@@GaryExplains qualcomm and arm
@happyatheists9361
@happyatheists9361 2 ай бұрын
@@DravkatRakhmonessis they have money,they try to buy intel god sake!
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@happyatheists9361 Yes, I know which lawsuit (Qualcomm vs Arm), but what do you want to know about?
@michaelekeemmanuel4135
@michaelekeemmanuel4135 2 ай бұрын
iPhones need to step up their games in terms of GPU .... But also it seems that in GPU benchmark apple limits it's performance in just the basic wild life normal test 😢
@michaelekeemmanuel4135
@michaelekeemmanuel4135 2 ай бұрын
Go to 7:02
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
Which is why I include others. What is the problem exactly?
@Onepunchmeme1
@Onepunchmeme1 2 ай бұрын
Please explain
@pfk2005
@pfk2005 2 ай бұрын
Stay tuned!
@crpro5420
@crpro5420 2 ай бұрын
Google is doing a very bad thing to all android fans by dropping on Snapdragon 😢
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
You mean by not using it in Pixel?
@crpro5420
@crpro5420 2 ай бұрын
@GaryExplains yes. Pure android on snapdragon 😭 best os on best chip. never happening
@trollmaster5791
@trollmaster5791 2 ай бұрын
Dont worry. They are coming up with their own chips manufactured by TSMC and finally dropping samsung foundry. Tensor G5 will be very similar to X elite.
@mpk4639
@mpk4639 2 ай бұрын
A Just waiting for s25 ultra
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 2 ай бұрын
Just so everyone in comments know realme haven't done a good job at optimisation on the chip
@ahasanulhasan436
@ahasanulhasan436 2 ай бұрын
I think the GT 7 just couldn't use it properly.
@pijesz
@pijesz 2 ай бұрын
Tensor : 🫣🤒
@Ajaykrishna97_
@Ajaykrishna97_ 2 ай бұрын
Apple gpu throttling to their lowest after just one run is just pathetic. And everyone day apple has better sustained performance
@kishimotodashoppee8632
@kishimotodashoppee8632 2 ай бұрын
Show me a game where peak gpu frequency matters, I'll wait
@Ajaykrishna97_
@Ajaykrishna97_ 2 ай бұрын
@kishimotodashoppee8632 peek doesn't matter, but sustained performance matters and apple is hitting it's lowest after just one run. Either they just set their gpu governor to just run a max performance for very less time just for the sake of benchmarking. With more AAA games porting to android we can see gpu performance matters the most.
@hasanagera
@hasanagera 2 ай бұрын
5:04 actually, the drop was only %20 not %40. So samsung with sd gen3 is more stable than realme with 8 elite.
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@hasanagera So it turns out I put the wrong label on the graph... The Xiaomi drops to 4115 at run 9, the S24 is actually 3474. If you follow the line you will see it is just above 3000 at the end. While the label is wrong the percent is correct. My bad. Sorry.
@debojitmandal8670
@debojitmandal8670 2 ай бұрын
single core si too low the bare minimum it should hit is 3150 not less then that and this is sustained not even peek so peek is 3232 also u have not included the new 3dm,ark which has all the latest desktop grade graphics api and librraries steel nomad
@asvphios9996
@asvphios9996 2 ай бұрын
iPhone hits 9300+ on iOS 18.1 in multi core performance.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
Seems like a fake benchmark from apple
@trollmaster5791
@trollmaster5791 2 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ the scores on 8 Elite are also fake then.
@asvphios9996
@asvphios9996 2 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ there’s massive improvement in performance, so it’s definitely not fake.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
@@asvphios9996 nope
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
@@trollmaster5791 we have the benchmark of retail units of 8 elite both OnePlus and Iqoo launched the phone in china already
@hasanagera
@hasanagera 2 ай бұрын
8:09 I don't understand why you make this much mistake in a video. Doing math, clearly shows the drop is %28 not %34. Are you trying to show 8 elite is better? Is this a sponsored video by Qualcomm?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@hasanagera Look closer at the graph, please. The iPhone ends on 3096. The maths is correct.
@-Blue-_
@-Blue-_ 2 ай бұрын
Yes 8 elite is better even Gary said that in the end of the video for sustained performance I know you are an isheep fearing true competition from Qualcomm now
@cia4gent128
@cia4gent128 2 ай бұрын
And after all this…apps and games will still be running better on the iPhone 😂
@fod79
@fod79 2 ай бұрын
As long as your game is single core audio only, sure.
@trollmaster5791
@trollmaster5791 2 ай бұрын
Cuz games are single threaded based. Here is the only area where Apple will always dominate.
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 2 ай бұрын
It's because devs optimize more for ios than android not that iphone just magically performs better in games.
@TheRealNightShot
@TheRealNightShot 2 ай бұрын
Rest in pieces Apple 😂
@henrikoldcorn
@henrikoldcorn 2 ай бұрын
Meh. Performance might affect the purchasing choices of some people but not very many. People are quite happy to _have_ more of it, but almost all the time my phone is idle even when I’m using it, it just doesn’t matter. People who game care and there are indeed lots of them, but even then, features and cost are far more important.
@lexview978
@lexview978 2 ай бұрын
Why? Were Qualcomm ‘resting in pieces’ when Apple’s chips posted better numbers?
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
@lexview978 I don't want to contribute to a flame war, but yes when Apple was ahead there were lots of derogatory remarks about Snapdragon processors, at least here in the comments section of my videos.
@lexview978
@lexview978 2 ай бұрын
@@GaryExplains That doesn’t take away from the silliness of the remark itself though does it. Qualcomm wasn’t finished when they were playing catch up, I highly doubt this will have that effect on Apple now that the tables appear to be turning 🤷‍♂️
@GaryExplains
@GaryExplains 2 ай бұрын
😱 As if silly remarks are some how strange in the KZbin comments section 😜
@ita149750
@ita149750 2 ай бұрын
Snapdragon is better, as always, I don't even need to watch the video
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