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The Murders at Karlov Manor Commander decks
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[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

Gavin will literally design a Vedalken Fish Detective rather than make a bant Merfolk commander.

[@GoodMorningMagic]

Someday Prof, I promise a Bant merfolk commander. It'll happen... Someday.

[@gypsieking3280]

It would be nice

[@ashdog9235]

We will probably have to wait until lorwyn

[@TheCandyManTeam]

Nobody remembers Tuvasa

[@jacobd1984]

Well of course-there are no Merfolk on Bant!

[@Barracius]

I will say guess #11 is one of the lies because anti-extra-turn tech is not something that would usually go into precons. While #4 sounds like something that would be done, it would allow #14 to be a 4/11 creature. Not only is that an unusual p/t combo, but 411 is (at least in the US and Canada) a number that means "information." And that is something that would be very thematic in a murder mystery set.

[@KomradeKrisis1701]

Oh SHIT you're good.

[@Ger0nimo76]

Check Gerrard's Hourglass Pendant which was in Dominaria United precon "Legends Legacy"

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

Stranglehold. I believe it was in the Zedruu deck. Not verbatum, but closer enough.

[@diogoschlosser5859]

But was already sayed that will have a same new card in the four precons, so its'n a lie

[@PetrusCaex]

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS WE'LL GET A NEW FEATHER CARD! THANK YOU GAVIN, I WAS FEELING REALLY DOWN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING OF FEATHER OR TAJIC IN THIS SET BUT NOW THE FLAMES OF THE LEGION ARE ABLAZE AGAIN IN MY SOUL

[@tommyg121]

"BELL BORCA BAY-BEE" - Spice8rack somewhere

[@kkpratt]

I'll be very surprised if the legendary BEAR is not the creature that cares about creatures that are base 2/2

[@aleix2012]

You were SUPER right!

[@summermermaidstar756]

Hint number 2 is a legend bear as we see the art of a legend bear, and bears are often 2 mana 2/2s. Therefor number 2 cannot be the lie

[@Ironpecker]

I reckon it buffed 2/2s because it was in the facedown deck, where morph and disguise creatures are all 2/2s

[@shooberoni]

@@Ironpecker most likely some combination, maybe it turns creaturs with base power and toughness 2/2 into bears with X or Y ability or a new stat block stronger than 2/2 or gives you a bear anthem allowing for the card to work as a new bear commander but still be capible or more, like its own morph deck

[@francescognerre2408]

my guesses: hint 1 - backup commander #2 for the boros deck hint 2 - the backup commander for the naya deck hint 3 - false ( unfortunately) hint 4 - some land, that would be very fun to play in pauper, but is uncommon hint 5 - in the bant deck, and it is based off of the number of artifacts or clues sacrificed this turn hint 6 - archnecromancer charm hint 7 - false (hopefully) hint 8 - the new feather hint 9 - white den protector hint 10 - naya deck, but monocolor and will be melee counter hint 11 - dimir deck, and involves really silly graveyard shenanigans hint 12 - dimir deck, and its an expensive (manawise) tutor that will search for a card with mv equal to gravestorm hint 13 - boros deck, will be something something to deal with goad when its down to 1v1 (assuming 4 player game) hint 14 - 3/7 creature i guess

[@mymarshlands]

oh the "2 people losing the game" card being for goad makes so much sense! hopefully you're right i assume one of the 10+ hints will be false and we'll get a bonkers creature like the new simic 2/15 elk turtle croc

[@aleix2012]

1 no, it was the dimir one 2 BINGO! 3 BINGO! 4 Nope, a random usleless artifact 5 BINGO! 6 Nope, the suspend, do thing and resuspend again cycle from Dr. Who. 7 No, Exalted 8 No, False 9 NO, IT IS ALWAYS WILLBENDER 10 BINGO! SO CORRECT I WANNA DIE 11 No, boros draw engine and randomly fucks extra turns players 12 Surprisingly NO. Clues deck bc it's from the battlefield, surveil is not valid 13 BINGO! So sadly true bc it's red and can't go into my bant goad deck 14 3/8 eye 5/14 NOT BAD AT ALL MY GOOD SIR

[@Gusta_Gustav]

Feels like I should have expected the answers, made reveals exciting!

[@jediarcherbc709]

I solved the mystery! The lies are 3 and 8, Azra and Radiance. The culprit in hint 14 is Eye of Duskmantle!

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

An Azra can travel to Ravnica using the Omenpaths like Kellan is doing and the Vedalkin Jack and the Beanstalk character did to get to Eldraine. If I am wrong and read to much into it my b but like its an entirely possible answer which could easily rule out the easy answer of "Azra aren't from here so won't be appearing in the decks"

[@aleix2012]

yes, but no :(

[@kathleenhailperin5859]

3/8, Azra aren't from Ravnica, and as another commenter pointed out, Radiance is a bad fit since there's a morph/disguise deck, and the four commander decks generally are designed to play well with each other

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

And Vadalkin aren't from Eldraine but we saw one in Wilds of Eldraine because non planewalkers can use omenpaths to travel between planes like Kennan is doing.

[@duane6386]

@@rubyseverinwhitworth9066but still no Vedalken Pirate 😔

[@jediarcherbc709]

There's a 3/8 called Eye of Duskmantle! We solved it!

[@aleix2012]

only one with 100% prediction rate!

[@bbqseitan7106]

Can we get a good Esper Spirit Commander please???

[@jimmycysmith8308]

With Ugin’s Mastery, if you disguise a creature and it enters the battlefield, does that count as casting a colorless creature spell? And also, can you look at your face down creatures at any time? I just started playing Magic last year and this is a mechanic and play style that I am not familiar with.

[@JacobBos1988]

Can't wait for the Revenant Recon deck to be previewd. I gotta say, i was so excited when i saw Dimir Strandcatcher today. But i was very let down that it isn't legendary. I really hope the decks backup commander explores a similar design space.

[@SkyToriJukebox]

I believe the backup commander is Lazav (as shown at the end of the Revenant Recon section of the video)

[@JacobBos1988]

@@SkyToriJukebox There is a new Lazav in the main set. I doubt they'll plug him as the backup commander for this precon. I'm kinda expecting a new Circu.

[@EvilMagnitude]

I’m calling 8 fake, no way Radiance comes back haha, think it’s on Maro’s list for top 10 worst all time mechanics

[@SingerOfW]

Especially when one of the decks got a bunch of face-down colorless clreatures.

[@ArmadilloAl]

Radiance was the original Boros mechanic, though, so it might well be in that deck. It's a horrid mechanic for building a guild identity around, but as a one-off, it's fine. It's not like it'd be too hard to throw together one card with some sort of "Radiance - Goad target creature and every creature that shares a color with it" ability for the new Goad commander.

[@aleix2012]

clash was also near the top and look, it's been back xd

[@MrMatt6362]

Fingers crossed for that Bant deck :D

[@zekelockman1477]

Chorus of the Conclave coming back? damn. (for reference: that's 3/8)

[@Zuzar-]

The Decks are awsome! Love the white / red one! So much fun making other ppl do the fighting for you! We need more goad cards in the game!!

[@SilverWolf340]

Jokes on you hint 14 is fake

[@GoodMorningMagic]

*gets stuck in a paradox for all eternity*

[@duane6386]

@@GoodMorningMagicIt’s not really a paradox as long as there isn’t a creature with toughness 14 whose power is the other fake hint

[@christina.morris]

As the resident angel fantatic in my playgroup, I am very intrigued by those two new angel cards...

[@lkledu2]

Why Vedalkean Fish and not Merfolk? Great video Gavin, Thank you

[@Zehpiros]

Any hint if Mirko will eventually satisfy his obsession? Thank you for your amazing job.

[@PatJamma]

5:45 IS THAT A HECKIN GHOST TRICK REFERENCE?!

[@cosmoesis7584]

Re-watched the video and putting magic bias aside to look for clues like I was doing an escape room: #1 no puncuation, AND Gavin ads commentary to it #2,4 no puncuation **#3,12 ends in an explanation mark!** #5,11 ends in ..." #13 ends in a quotes mark, no other puncuation" #6,8,9,10 end in periods. #7 ends in a period and has extra commentary. As for pairings A 2/4 isn't unusual and 1 probably fits there- still not unusual. 13 could also pair there as no periods. 5/11 kind of pairs with 13 for quote mark endings" I'd be willing to guess the creature from #14 is a 3/12

[@Samrestion]

Do you know what criteria are followed to know if an edition has the commander decks translated into Spanish or not? First it happened with ONE and now with Karlov Manor... I don't make sense of it, both are main sets not supplementary.

[@richardminielly3403]

So when are you printing Dockbreacher in an actual set?

[@chezpizza3869]

Side note: Will the assist mechanic ever return? It is great for edh games.

[@joedoe7572]

Is there somewhere I can suggest a card design?

[@Hakaze]

That surveil deck is comming home with me

[@BANANA3434]

There is no hint about Nephilim 😢

[@guilhermeviana3669]

On the beggining it says Wednesday January 24th, but then in the end you said thursday, so I'm a little confused

[@jwaffles9269]

I’m certain that the Azra is one of the fakes. New cards in precons are bound to the plane they’re on, and there aren’t any Azra on ravnica. I would guess that 11 is probably the other fake, since there doesn’t tend to be extra turn stuff going on in precons. A 3/11 would definitely qualify as an unusual pow/tou

[@aleix2012]

1/2 it was 3/8 :D 50% is pretty good!

[@dasfabelwesen]

Woa, black spellseeker? I do not think so, but it would be cool though...

[@tedpengu1n]

Can we the mechanic double draw instead of second draw. The alliteration is so much nicer

[@chrisgallo2236]

I’ll probably grab the Bant and Boros decks for sure. They sound like a lot of fun to me.

[@calebbryan8760]

Beginning of the video you said the decks would be revealed Wednesday and then the end you said Thursday

[@Medicinalmagic911]

Dockside!! in here was definitely unexpected! ❤ thanks man!! Humility!!?? So amazing my dude!! Keep it up bromigo 🎉🎉 0:14

[@alewoloch]

I'll say that the creature is a 4/11 #4: I remember Gavin once said that arcane signet was a mistake, because it reduces the uniqueness of decks, and a new card that is on all 4 of those decks would be less unique. #11: The only card with that line of text is Stranglehold, and that card doesn't seem to fit very well on a Precon.

[@zacharyenglish2904]

There are a couple more cards with that line of text (Ugin’s nexus and Gerard’s Pendant)

[@alewoloch]

@@zacharyenglish2904 yeah, but those cards say "player", Stanglehold says "opponent"

[@thefrizmeister3666]

I'm so ready for a 2 mana cost 4 color legend. Oh! And i wanna see a 3 mana 5 color legend, maybe even a handful of each.

[@apao50000]

Can you please design an eye commander?

[@andrewfornes5320]

We need more 2 mana, 3 color identity commanders. There is a lot of untapped potential in that space. 1 mana colored with 2 different colored activated abilities. 2 mana colored with 1 colored activated ability or just costed like Kaust is.

[@juanantoniojimenez927]

hm new Feather is quirky? I hope we can build an awesome deck around her. Like the original that make the cantrip instant deck possible in that color combination. Would be cool if she could make the Radiance mechanic playable/worthwhile but there are only 10? cards with the mechanic... and the mechanic isn't the strongest either... Maybe the Radiance hint is a lie ;)

[@Beckola44]

I am not so sure about Hint #1 having the Clash Mechanic. I think Hint #3, a new Arza in the set is false. Thank you for the video Gavin.

[@teradul2480]

I would guess 1 and 8 would be the false hints, as they seem the least interesting out of the bunch and also the third returning mechanic (gravestorm) actually is formatted differently, which could be a clue. So, a 1/8 creature, huh? I'd say that also makes for a unique stat line.

[@Klaritsa]

There is already a 1/8 creature

[@teradul2480]

@@Klaritsathat doesn't mean it disqualifies my guess, since the hint is "unusual p/t" not "unique"

[@jediarcherbc709]

It's 3/8, Eye of Duskmantle

[@teradul2480]

@@jediarcherbc709 yeah! There was also a 1/8, but the 1/8 had the Clash mechanic to taunt me, specifically. I'm thinking of building it.

[@atBerniceAnders]

I need #13 to be true, Goad is my favorite Commander mechanic but it's always an uphill battle when it gets to 1v1

[@aleix2012]

this is why you need blue goad decks, to add Reins of Power

[@wavesofbabies]

So it's a x/12 or a 12/13

[@TheSenorN]

my guess for one lie is number 14. the lie is that the lower number is actually the toughness, so that whatever the creature is it is a 14/x.

[@duane6386]

That’s pretty cool. I like that

[@ApoEdvarg]

I'm calling 6th a fake. It doesn't seem to be an open megacycle for black that would make sense here

[@iudexumbra609]

White Red and Green each have a creature that gives +2/+2 and a keyword to commanders (like Bastion Protector). Black lacks one so far so that's my guess.

[@oscarkennedy4465]

Unless hint 4 ISN'T a land that can tap for any colour, it has to be one of the lies, right?

[@LadyTsunade777]

Could also be an artifact or otherwise colorless card with no color identity.

[@oscarkennedy4465]

@@LadyTsunade777 or that too. Can't believe an artifact slipped through my train of thought.

[@Dorion37]

I hope Gravestorm isn't a lie, it's my favorite mechanic

[@DeWillpower]

the rebell son!? yippe!

[@gonzluisd]

And OTJ?

[@thadrin]

Bear? BEAR? PLEASE say it's monogreen... my Bear deck wants it...

[@ShayeMakus-zt5yx]

my guess for fakes are 3/12 gravestorm is just as broken as storm azra are not from ravnica

[@ashdog9235]

I think your answer is correct but your reasoning is flawed. What makes you think they would try to fix previously broken mechanics it’s been a thing they’ve been trying to do phyrexian mana and normal storm come to mind. And Azra can appear on any plane thanks to the omen paths even if they don’t originate there. The real reason 3/12 is correct is because they are the only ones that end with a !

[@jediarcherbc709]

It's 3/8

[@ThatHoodlum19]

I was thinking hint#4 was a lie. A new card in every deck, could be an artifact or land but yeah could be a lie too.

[@wrayfinlay8104]

Hint 4 a card that appears in all 4 decks. Sweet so sol ring

[@Aldrnari956]

I was listening to this, following along with interest… AND THEN Gavin showed the art for a new Feather card and I lost it.

[@voidprism_studios666]

Why are the box arts always better than the card arts 😂

[@colinfowler3021]

1/11 You aren't doing clash, and "doing something for extra turns" doesn't really fit into precons that would not frequently have extra turn spells.

[@iudexumbra609]

Gerrard's Pendant came in the RWB Dominaria Precon.

[@colinfowler3021]

@@iudexumbra609 and you think they are going to do it again after that card was so forgettable?

[@iudexumbra609]

@@colinfowler3021 Possible is all I'm saying. I also used the pendant in Alela because of my LGS meta.

[@davedussault8324]

7 and 13. 13 just gets my hopes up too much so it cant be real.

[@jediarcherbc709]

3/8

[@iudexumbra609]

FEATHER FEATHER FEATHER FEATHER FEATHER!😁 I hope I like the card 😬

[@iudexumbra609]

Sorry. Got hyped. As for the super cycle, White Red and Green all have a +2/+2 and give keyword to commander creatures (think Bastion Protector). That's my guess for the cycle.

[@austinyoung3953]

We’re getting a 14/1

[@ashdog9235]

It’s definitely 3/12 only ones with a !

[@ashdog9235]

At first I thought it was 1/8 but the only reasoning was because I just thought them unlikely but seeing as there is a thing 2 have that non of the others do I can do nothing other than to conclude that it was done for a reason

[@jediarcherbc709]

3/8

[@manaclasher]

I agree with @Barracius, I think it's 4/11. That's the 411

[@aleix2012]

0%

[@andersrolig]

This was uniterestimg for me, then Feather got mentioned.

[@aydenapicella7288]

I think it’s either 4 and 11 or 4 and 8

[@pedrotrifas]

It's 1/13!

[@ashdog9235]

Yes!

[@jediarcherbc709]

It's 3/8, Eye of Duskmantle...

[@crazymembrane]

Im gonna go with 2/9, as that is the release date of the set, sad as i am to say it.

[@serenitysilvermoon]

One thing I noticed about Mirko is the tweet annoucing them used used 'her' for Mirko, and here I noticed you used 'he'. I know we saw Mirko before, but can you let us know which is accurate?

[@GalacticBlader]

hope the boros one has a JESKAIS WILL REPRINT LOL

[@jackmcnally8706]

Not quite, but the Naya one does! Seedborn Muse too!

[@grasshopper1153]

Boros commander deck. That is the one for me.

[@thevaultwalrus]

RAINBOW FOILS for commanders

[@ryukaze20]

Radiance is definitely SUS and hint 14 is fake

[@filiphorvath8932]

Azra hint is fake

[@MasterP86]

Put good lamds on decks

[@aegisgamingofficial2178]

1 is false. Clash is a terrible mechanic and isn't likely to appear in a precon of all places. Maybe a horizons set...

[@taransnodgress5027]

3/11

[@stevendefeo8424]

If you were the lead designer, was one of your thoughts, that this set should be considerably slow? You cast 3 mana to put a card facedown, then spend an ungodly amount of mana to turn the card fave up. This is extremely slow. This set will do nothing in standard. This set is for commander players only. Clue is one my favorite movies ever and these cards are so bad, they’re pretty much unplayable. Very disappointing

[@seifeldeensameh6661]

My guess nothing is a lie

[@MascalchiPlay]

4 and 8 are fake, meaning there’s a 4/8 creature

[@jediarcherbc709]

3/8, Eye of Duskmantle

[@JackLodge18]

3/12

[@ashdog9235]

Yes but what is reasoning?

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

2/13

[@davida.yorkson3397]

Retire, Gavin.

[@chrisdegen985]

Hint 2 and 14 are the lies because hint 14 refers to the card Pride of the Hull Clade but its power and toughness are 2/15 so because only its power can be the other lie hint 14 is the second lie because only half of it can be true so its still a lie with a hint in it

[@eddight4863]

What was the thought process of going murder mystery on Ravnica? The Phyrexian invasion, war of the spark, and the imminent arrival of Marit Lage all happened to Ravnica, yet we're not exploring any of the ramifications of those events. This set feels like someone came up with the Clue tie in and then just shoved it into Ravnica setting.

[@wrenoryx]

The story for this set actually goes into the ramifications of the Phyrexian invasion, I highly recommend you read it if you haven't yet. Also, the whole Marit Lage thing was in the BOOM Comics continuity, so it wasn't canon.

[@drsherifff]

They wanted to do a murder mystery and then slowly realized that Ravnica fit all the categories they needed

[@thadrin]

Maro explained this. They were building a bespoke world, and then realised what they made was very similar to Ravnica, so they just went with the plane we know.

[@eddight4863]

@thadrin I hadn't seen that, but it makes sense as to why this set doesn't feel like Ravnica to me.

[@aleix2012]

because they didn't focus on the guilds as always. Less multicolor cards. And it revolves around clues and murders, typical from innistrad@@eddight4863

[@thevaultwalrus]

Make cards

[@aleix2012]

Falses prediction: 4. new card in the 4 decks (too obvious there's 1 each set) 12. If an opponent would start a new turn... (bc boring) 9. PLSSSS be it a RED WILLBENDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@aleix2012]

the only right answer was the necessary one! IT IS ALWAYS WILLBENDER

[@Corithaniel]

6 and 9 are fake

[@grasshopper1153]

You need to make two-color guilds universal. There are portals throughout the multiverse now, so why can't we have the Ravnica guilds spread out from Ravnica? This way we can see our favorite guilds on other planes.

[@guico33]

WOTZ should stop giving LLR deck previews, I remember they did the Eldrazi one from CMM and it was a painful watch. The hosts were the most boring and unenthusiastic. Hoping for Serge and Wheeler this time, those are the entertaining ones. Surprise to not see MTGGoldfish, their channels are all very popular and their team have some of the best content creators in the community.