SNS5 SSBU - eUnited | Samsora (Peach) Vs. LeoN (Bowser) Smash Ultimate Losers Top 12

[@motokisano9827]

Peach "I do not need Mario"

[@wpower7435]

Only in smash bros she doesn't need him.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@wpower7435 Mario Kart/Party/Strikers/Tennis, Super Mario 2 (US version), etc?

[@wpower7435]

@@nathanlevesque7812 yeah also..

[@alexisgoyle73]

she a feminist queen skskskskks

[@TheFantasticWarrior]

W power and 3D world

[@chillbro6142]

Props to Leon for getting 9th with Bowser! Also, lets go Samsora!!!

[@Popinazo]

Because of getting 9th with Bowser? dude, Bowser is freaking broken in this Smash.

[@chillbro6142]

@@Popinazo I can't say I agree and sometimes I think the word broken gets overused. I'm sure we'll see more characters pop up in the spotlight as well. I definitely respect Leon's skill and it would be cool to see more of him.

[@MrXsunxweaselx]

@@Popinazo Oh hey I speak trash smash player so I can help translate for you. "I suck against Bowser and cry myself to sleep at night." No problem, anytime.

[@aneau7449]

@@MrXsunxweaselx Well let's not say Bowser sucks in this game. His CG is sooo good, he's so fast in this game for his weight, pretty quick and powerful tilts and aerials. The only things that suck is his hurtbox and his recovery in the air, h/e UpB on ground is good.

[@MrXsunxweaselx]

@@aneau7449 Yeah he's good, but not broken. Leon beat Inkling and Chrom easily and even went the distance with Samsora's Peach. All characters that seriously outrank Bowser on any tier list. Anybody that cries balance at that is a brain-dead baddy.

[@mcprince5098]

LeoN played out of his mind this tourney, one day I hope to see him finally whoop everyone's ass and get to the top of a major, though that's probably a pipe dream.

[@kameronschadt5246]

I dunno man, I feel like heavies are stronger than people realize. I could see a good bowser or ganon taking a tourney

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Kameron Schadt Ganon is taking them in Melee some

[@XxSpiffxX]

Well he whooped Cosmo's ass, if you haven't seen it u really need to. But not at the top of a major.

[@e1fyy]

McPrince if anyone can do it with bowser, its leon

[@mcprince5098]

@@XxSpiffxX I watched the set stream live, his set versus Cosmos almost felt surreal. Like this Bowser player can just show up and absolutely whoop the best Inkling player in the world like he's nothing but a pushover. It was absolutely nuts.

[@kameronschadt5246]

wtf is with these 3 stocks this guy can pull? I know he didn't win in the end, but jesus...

[@XXSteel]

Kameron Schadt bowser is pretty good at pulling of three stocks. He can be really oppressive if played correctly, his weight speed armor and kill power can sometimes make him tough to deal with

[@mochisun9190]

so the main downfall of bowser is that he's big, and can be combod easily, but once he gets to around 80% the combos stop working and he's heavy as fuck so he doesn't die soon. on top of that, he gets rage and can end stocks at 60% sometimes with his meaty hits.

[@williamkeith1180]

Yeah bowser has the tools to do it and he was just picking the right options, pressing the right buttons.

[@Snowballsage]

Bowser is a very polarizing character

[@AngryBirdzMTheOneonlyreelkool]

I love the character diversity of Ultimate. So glad we’re not just seeing two characters dominate the meta. Yet...

[@tropikilla]

lol there's already too many Snakes, and thanks to the nerfs, less Olimars now

[@gabrielfortes3946]

We still have four characters left, lol!!

[@mikeshockinggentspence8714]

Nathan Mang There’s like 3 good snakes and MVD is falling off rn

[@zalifor]

unlike the older games, ultimate can be updated, and with updates, come *p e a c h n e r f s*

[@Exorcist_ali248]

@@zalifor yeah no peach already was nerfed out of top 5

[@cbass2238]

Leon has me more excited than any other match in this tournament before or after this game. The HYPEST three stock!

[@thegalaxyrover]

Samsora is one of the smartest smash players I’ve ever seen

[@JulesThePsion]

I agree. I have a lot of respect for him. Watching him play is like watching an artist work.

[@Snowballsage]

2:33 that was the most amazing bowser recovery I’ve ever seen. He was so low that samsora actually went too low to recover, thinking the match was already over.

[@mywayfernandez8704]

"Pride" before the fall.

[@EluTran]

Yo, 3.1.0 nerfed turnip pull to be 3 frames slower so turnip edgeguards are gonna be a bit less strong and quick at low percents. Interesting...

[@HomeDepotemkin]

He almost 9 stocked cosmos before this set

[@earlyman7439]

@@HomeDepotemkinbc it was never just peach's strong tools, it was very much Sam's mastery of her.

[@Saskaruto16]

It's only a couple frames but it would be interesting to see if he would have missed some because of that.

[@malicelight1691]

In other words Leon wins in the future?

[@artificalqueen8982]

@@malicelight1691 Not a snowballs chance in hell. Samsora is the god of peach.

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

This tournament is something else. Unexpected upsets and new characters in top ranks. Samsora definitely took a big breathe after that last game.

[@su9cp]

It’s amazing to see samsora so focused and playing so good after seeing him fooling around in streams

[@kevinrivera9917]

1:30 he tough guyed the shield poke 😂

[@marche800]

Lol he did.

[@mywayfernandez8704]

Yo, I never even noticed.

[@thisboimeg3395]

Lol

[@owenstroud5656]

Holy shit getting that far with Bowser is impressive on its own almost beating samsora is something else

[@Georgeffrr]

Bowser is good

[@dashman8499]

@@Georgeffrr he is good, but this was over two years ago. Before Leon was cracking skulls no one saw Bowser be this good

[@Dudaponchscarpenuove]

Bowser way better than byleth

[@ahorsewithnogames]

Imagine if he down B'd at 14:08

[@maxomega3]

that's what I'm saying. He did 3 bad dairs in a situation where down B would've forced a reaction with a potential shield break.

[@atottalynormalcat939]

@@maxomega3 Geez... i watch those videos just for fun

[@SirStarKnight]

Uhm... Yes and no. Bowser has a TON of lag after the down b. It's a very dangerous move to use against a skilled player. Yes, it could have been effective, but Peach could have dodged it and punished it. (Sorry for grammar, not english).

[@G0on]

Samsora would've reacted to the startup of Down B. All it takes is to roll away.

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

@@SirStarKnight He got punished anyways, at least Down-B can't be shielded.

[@jacobgriner9569]

"I got that thun thun thun too, Imma about to just drop it on you" 😆

[@royal_kim1154]

Peach gets revenge on Bowser for kidnapping her several times :v

[@Veinner_22]

:v

[@applesauce9350]

She snapped...

[@iCollectCans]

She got enough of that sus shit

[@commando5103]

She can finally defend herself.

[@HomeDepotemkin]

The hype was real in the room during this set. Everyone was watching this set. Even the Melee side was watching this over Melee top 32

[@GUMNUT.]

DUDE Leon had such an insane run this visit. 8 stocks straight on COSMOS. Walled out Nairo. Thiiiiiiiiiiis close to taking down Sora. Damn kid. Props

[@emmbeesea]

Peach defeats Bowser. How fitting. Samsora in Top 8!

[@tasium5296]

Emm Bee Sea I just realized that

[@tasium5296]

God damn it why can’t peach do all the work

[@mcprince5098]

Super Princess Peach, anyone?

[@emmbeesea]

@@mcprince5098 | I love that game! 100%'ed it on my DS Lite!

[@commando5103]

@@mcprince5098 I love it

[@thatboypoonkyt]

It would've been crazy if he beat Samsora and then someone pulled out Mario later on and beat him

[@commando5103]

That would be so eventful.

[@Pedurrako]

That 3 stock was brutal

[@barbarictearemedy]

I really predicted Leon would win this after that Bones set. That 3-stock game 4 was hype at least.

[@reubenlane]

Leon is one of my favs. I love his comittment to bowser and sometimes he shows greatness but occasionally his behaviour becomes erratic and he suffers for it. I guess sometimes you just gotta throw shit out there and see if it sticks but i think because of bowser being such a big target youve really gotta master corect tech chase and reactions and constantly be one step ahead of the dance. Thats the key to bowser mastery.

[@dashman8499]

This set was so insane. Leon is a fucking powerhouse of a player but Samsora is fucking terrifying

[@etragun]

Samsora: *Combos Leo to fucking shit* LeON: All that for a drop of blood... 00:46

[@randomperson-po1ss]

Samrosa was awesome! He got frazzled during the 3 stock match. His strings are good too, really helps me practice lol

[@nybethobdilord6912]

Leon choked at the end but that was an amazing set. Hate to see nerves ruin a great match.

[@evanrussell4211]

I don’t get how that was a choke.

[@evanrussell4211]

He was down two stocks and was bringing it back.

[@ILeikNormalTypes]

Evan Russell he kept it even throughout game 5 but the nerves of actually getting that last KO really showed with his missed grabs. This is his biggest placement at a tournament yet, so it makes sense but next time he’s in that situation he probably won’t be as panicky at the end

[@nybethobdilord6912]

Exactly. That last scramble was a complete mess and a showcase of you losing control during a match. He didn't know what he was doing for a good couple of seconds and was relying on panic buttons to cover him. It happens but damn does it suck when it does.

[@AntisaintNAO]

Let too many down airs rip. I get that it’s tempting and landing against Peach is nerve racking but he really did himself no favors with that

[@flirtyaphid545]

@1:30 y'all see Bowser armor through that shield poke? Lol

[@InfernoCA]

Jman SIR he‘s a tough guy

[@laggalot1012]

Yeah, that was pretty amusing.

[@commando5103]

Yes

[@SolidStoned]

Not gonna lie Leon inspired me to find answers that weren't there before. I like his style a lot

[@stonguy5274]

13:16 wtf was that down air ???

[@RanOutOfSpac]

Massive fan of Samsora so extremely happy that he won this, but mad respect to the Bowser for bringing it down to wire. That was tense as heck.

[@Sol_Calibre]

If he had down B'd at 14:08 he would've won. If he had risked it there.

[@smashssf2_ssbc15]

Yeah

[@shpankey1053]

When Peach has had enough of Bowsers Antics

[@Justpassingby204]

Leon had a spectacular run!

[@commando5103]

Yeah, he did.

[@marche800]

I feel like Samsora's brain shuts down everytime he loses a game. His face just screams confusion and denial. Good thing he's able to get it together before the game starts though.

[@MrXsunxweaselx]

It's actually the opposite of confusion. When he loses he is replaying the mistakes of the match in his head and thinking about what he could do to fix them. When he wins there isn't much to go over and think about fixing. You see this a lot in the robotic, emotionless Korean gods of Starcraft.

[@marche800]

@@MrXsunxweaselx I can definitely tell there is a conscious effort to regain footing in the next match but I still feel like he's also fighting through the loss.

[@cjnogamesplayed259]

No samsura is thinking of a gameplan but he is human so he is tilted but thats tilt aka clutch factor help him out in ways. Just depends on wich way your tilting up hill or down hill .

[@elihearts1110]

samsora dominates neutral, dominates edgeguarding, but bowser just can kinda hold fire at the ledge for 50% and keep up with him, kinda nutty

[@laggalot1012]

Bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, Fire Breath is good.

[@Carlisho]

Bruh Peach has a 80+ percent true combo gtfo

[@elihearts1110]

@@Carlisho yea peach is definitely higher tier than bowser--i was just a little amazed at the difference in mechanical skill between the two. peach's true combo is super difficult to pull off

[@plugwalk594]

Imagine whining about bowser

[@timhiltz6323]

Combo hard pull off yeah right, it’s easy pull on a heavy weight lol.

[@marcocattaneo6522]

I would like to see a K. Rool player as strong as Leon with Bowser

[@HopperDragon]

Can't happen

[@johngrissom1504]

@@HopperDragon why not?

[@ad240p]

John Grissom because Bowser>>>>>>K. Rool

[@epitome8639]

Quick question: was Pokémon stadium 1 legal in this tourney? Or did they mean to go to PS2?

[@big_ouchy7461]

This was so hard to watch, as a Bowser main I find this match really frustrating, props to you Leon

[@laggalot1012]

That recovery situation with the turnips, it's such a painful inevitability...

[@big_ouchy7461]

Laggalot101 I know, I wanted him to give up after the first hit because I knew what was gonna happen

[@NeutralL12]

@@laggalot1012 on top of losing neutral once and being taken to 70 true

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

What a terrible matchup, one of bowsers worst. LeoN is great, 5:15 what a read! The startup and lag on that move are huge, before Sam even hit the side b!

[@erimasuvonxiella7091]

Match up isn't as bad as you think

[@mo533]

Hell hath no furry like a Princess scorned; for all those times he stole her away from her beloved Italian plumber. Seriously tho, GGs to LeoN, love seeing some Bowser, but I gotta pull for my boi SamSora. His makin this look look like dittos, Bowser vs Bowsette, all them fire combos X-D

[@goleon7671]

Man, samsora is my fav player ever, but i really was rooting for LeoN ♥ he did great

[@catninja909]

Leon nearly won against the guy that Zero regularly trains with👏👏👏

[@ashbyevan90]

Samsora playing better than I've ever seen him. Big props to Leon. Huge threat.

[@keon8332]

0:30 1:09 1:30 Don't mind me, its just my replay-button

[@gerrymndzarg393]

Question: Peach and Daisy are not allowed to use counter(toad) in tournaments?

[@speedingstorm6074]

they are, sam doesn't ever seem to though

[@_treeko]

Why would you ever use counter in tourney

[@ericcaissie9137]

That fourth game Leon went ultra instinct

[@ImChrisLuke]

Great sets!

[@8bitapples]

Way too manys ads, what the heck.

[@TheCactuar124]

It's after each game. Get used to it.

[@stealthyshadow567]

Now I’m no bowser main but he probably could’ve benefited from up smash a lot more considering the invulnerability from above combined with peach’s “float right above your head” strategy

[@ankeviousoliver4472]

Im more impressed at what Leon does with Bowser. Im a Bowser main and this guy makes him look like a God.

[@ladyvictoria820]

4:26 That was dirty XD

[@stonguy5274]

Game 4 was just amazing😍😍

[@humblebeast9813]

Damn that was a good set. Peach is a bad matchup for bowser but Leon made it work. Samsora did his thing as well with those amazing peach plays

[@jjjooorrrjjjooorrr]

I almost cried during this match. Jesus. Go Leon.

[@Turnpost2552]

He lost tf???

[@alexanderamador441]

Congratns Samsora 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ajinc.6398]

Why are they playing pre patch though?

[@nomado.3855]

For the same damn reason in tournaments, to avoid complains or salty ones.

[@mcdonald5519]

@@nomado.3855 No, its because the patch came out too late and they already decided to have it on 3.0, no one really had enough time to prepare and adapt to the 3.1 changes yet

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

Most Tourneys wait a week for everyone to learn the patch differences

[@rocketsfan01n11]

Yeah, I was under the impression that this would be 3.10 as well

[@Saskaruto16]

They have to wait a week after a patch for everyone to get used to it.

[@gamrage]

Are these matches already with the 3.1.0 patches or without?

[@jesuspereznunez3407]

With

[@jorgevalenzuela1593]

I dont think so, if there is a tournament very close to the release of a patch, they always wait. This is true not only for smash but for other games, plus you can see theres no lag on peaches turnips and thats a major change on 3.1

[@laggalot1012]

I believe there's a grace period of a week or so? In which case, this is definitely still 3.0.

[@Imverycareless]

100% without

[@chillbro6142]

They used patch 3.0.0. In their rules, it says "Smash'N'Splash 5 will use whatever patch is live on 05/17/19." If 3.1.0 came on that date or before, they would use it. SnS5 rules: docs.google.com/document/d/1MU__8BcVyvYbdOdV-vBSFLmrYL60-We1ETxS4soOhhg/edit?fbclid=IwAR37TElLxfo9xfbzCOUcm_6Nb9WgU8ZU2bGqv_nrarlaytAy0coWoTvZfA4

[@JulesThePsion]

I love Sam's face! Those cheekbones! 😍

[@인더빌딩]

Never seen a bowser doing so well against a top tier character used by the very best. This guy is amazing!

[@Masterahsoka]

Samsora carries peach. No other peach/ daisy performs as well as he does.

[@BecauseYNotYT]

And with the Peach nerfs, pretty sure Leon wouldn't have losed that, Peach was just way to save in everyway glad they nerfed her a lot

[@Shansdotcom]

It’s most likely not going to make much of a difference.

[@BecauseYNotYT]

@@Shansdotcom front air does not kill anymore back throw does not kill anymore and she can't do site B against shild and be almost unpunishableIs gonna change A LOT of how peach works (most peach combos to kill ended on front air)

[@Saskaruto16]

It definitely would have made some difference against those side b attacks samsora kept throwing at his shield, as well he wouldn't have thrown him off quite as far a couple times. Maybe it would have made the difference, maybe not. We'll if they get to fight again.

[@thefairestintheland9025]

You can meet peach all you want. But you can't need samsora 🤷

[@arturogarrido1240]

Really good casters over here

[@Einzbrn]

The poor crowd was just waiting for the Leon win to explode.

[@justanothermanontheinternet]

leon almost had the sickest turnip combo ever that last game

[@Rayzboomboomroom]

0:48 You better call Mario ma'am... Lolololol

[@solitonmedic]

"Knocked the crown off her head" 😂

[@amphibiansriseup1267]

We will never have a metagame where at least most of the roster can get to top 8 at a super major. Unless the balance team takes inspiration from Project M (which they never will) we will keep getting Smash games where Top tiers have a significant gap between Mid, Low, Bottom, or even High tiers. Please buff every non Top Tier so they can actually be fucking successful at the highest level of play.

[@TyphonCH]

Peach's float is so jank. At 1:00 Bowser's back air straight up hit the bottom half of Peach and it didn't even register. That's some bullshit

[@francescoannese6291]

Leon always seems to be losing the match but everytime he clutches like a boss

[@arcaniaheart3570]

7:55 Op damage. 53 Damage, drop stitch face follow up with a Fair.

[@sagegang7439]

Stitch usually does that

[@めがぱーま]

What gallerys call for leon？

[@djohnthesalty]

LeoN looks like he's going to kill someone every time he plays this game I love it

[@stonguy5274]

fourth game was INSANE

[@MauroPerasso]

I love seeing a bowser at top level. It's really entertaining. I feel like Leon's opponents are mostly just not used to playing against bowser, but also that it is really easy to adapt to it. So, in result, either Leon rides the wave of baffling from his opponent, or ends up trying really hard to mix up his gameplay in order to not be read in every set (specially in best of 5)

[@silviaguia6648]

Que batalla tan epica hermano

[@_Albret]

do they play on the new patch?

[@Imverycareless]

Nope, it’s the old Patch

[@Saskaruto16]

No. They wait a week after a patch before they use it at tournaments to make sure everyone is used to the new patch.

[@frequencyxx]

When mario takes too long to rescue the princess but she's also ok her period

[@iknowwhereyoulive618]

1:30 this man gets shield poked and tough guys through it

[@respecccccc]

Does LeoN have Twitter?

[@ultralight3133]

Yes twitter.com/not_david_leon

[@heymikkao]

Samsora... one of the most entertaining players ever

[@missing8275]

Lol no

[@Masterahsoka]

Samsora was shook 😂

[@99985cc]

Commentators were on point

[@alphajnitro0072]

11:05 DSR not a thing?

[@maxomega3]

Leon won on it and Samsora picked it again. This is allowed through MDSR or Winnner's variation, but MDSR is more likely.

[@alphajnitro0072]

@@maxomega3 Samsora won game 2 on it tho

[@piranhabones]

Yo.... Leon is just insane

[@joseantoniomarronmartinez9526]

2:36 It was at that moment that he knew, he fucked up.

[@Mister_Peep]

There is no upper echelon of smash anymore. Everyone is the best, therefore no one is the best.

[@HopperDragon]

This isn't smash 4. You're wrong. Leo is obviously the best, samsora is always top 3 or 4, and top 8 is typically shoe ins for tweak, void, Zach, nairo, and other consistent players I don't follow as closely. If what you were saying is true, tournament results would be random and unpredictable. Pay attention.

[@lalalapooify]

Is this cannon?

[@danielrabinovitz478]

I think Samsora has a Bowser problem... first Mr. Bones and now Leon

[@mrhades113]

Peach with black dress? I know what he's doing.

[@da_pikmin_coder8367]

It really be ya own princesses that do ya in 😢

[@InternetTrollization]

armor on down b and shorter tech roll animations

[@rubenhero9937]

This Bowser is insane. Good job 👍

[@user-razormom]

14:24 i love her face

[@jeorhan1262]

Holy shit game 4 was hype Bowser!

[@deathmelon6789]

The set ends at game 4

[@torterrad5429]

Leon putting in work

[@rcjaramillo]

We can say that forth set was Bowser’s Fury…

[@mr.d9626]

Yet another case of "Better player vs Better Character"

[@AHGavInDaUSA]

No.

[@sailor3047]

yeah nah. don't try to make it seem like samsora is getting carried by his character. peach is one of the hardest in the game to play. this is why you're only seeing one dude in top 8s all the time playing peach. fuck off with that ignorant garbage

[@bojo6967]

Screw that peach main Leon was playing a heavy weight and he would have won if he didn’t spam that turnip bs

[@commando5103]

Salty.

[@commando5103]

And just because he was playing a heavy doesn't mean a single thing.

[@Doomxeen]

SO CLOSE!