So about that Secret Rings Challenge...

[@asclepihex]

Secret Rings with the Wii Bowling Ball controller.

[@mawdewile]

I’m sorry, that exists?!

[@beatziegraham6928]

@@mawdewileI didn’t know it exists but it IS the Wii. It has all kinds of weird accessories. I’m not surprised that a Wii Bowling Ball controller exists.

[@UNALLOYEDSLOP]

@@mawdewileit’s literally a big blue ball with buttons on that looks miserable to play with, ITS PERFECT

[@spice4life.64]

YES

[@thelonleygengar]

​@@mawdewile Yep, big bulky blue and apparently heavy, sound great for a game where you need to move the controller alot

[@justlea6179]

What everyone said sounds perfect: -Minimalist -No new skills -Completely base sonic. -hardest difficulty. I might be wrong but basically a combo meal that sounds like all three but its to see the Absolute minimal you can do with a few Handicaps just to see what works.

[@RuralNanobot287]

Probably the good idea.

[@andrewtwilliams]

Go so far as to equip abilities that hinder you in every possible way!

[@reggierocks9488]

New idea! Do a combination of LEAST amount of rings possible with the least amount of pearls possible! Maybe even no new skills (or you could just do each level with new skills and then another without them). Instead of keeping the viewers questioning whether it's possible, keep them interested with guessing the minimum stuff required! ------------------------- If ur feeling really silly you could try to do it with a goofy controller that would make the game (almost?) impossible to play. Keep up the great videos!

[@ianrennebohm8294]

Maybe it could be called "Can You Beat The Sonic and the Secret Rings Minimalist Challenge"

[@elibonham4388]

I like that

[@Roman_the_black_cat]

Beating sonic and the secret rings with q vertical wii remote 😂

[@Hurtle885hu8bu]

Just hold the Wii remote backwards, then the motion controls would be reversed.

[@emilygauthier5154]

Yep, sounds awesome! For the controller, another commenter suggested the Wii Bowling Ball Controller. IDK WTF that is, but all the more reason to use it! I looked up more pointless Wii accessories, and I think the Fishing Rod and Balance Board (if that's compatible) would be hilarious options as well.

[@philipknightson4204]

Secret Rings but you take a shot every time Seven Rings in Hand starts playing.

[@philipknightson4204]

More seriously, a minimum Rings run (maybe one where you don't count the prologue) could be interesting.

[@Cyrukyen_Backup]

Or a hit everytime

[@codex8678]

this is a death sentence

[@codex8678]

that a Challenge for a stream not a video

[@ciellight]

MaKe BeLiEfS rebOrN

[@smasherthebluecat4682]

A challenge where you spin a wheel per mission. Based on where the wheel lands, it says a challenge you must do to beat the level. If the level ends up being impossible before playing it, you can respin it.

[@pushnwood8667]

Secret rings, but you must try to complete every level with exactly seven rings in hand

[@artey6671]

Sonic has one ring on his hand in this game anyway, so maybe 6 is enough. ;)

[@ttgb2990]

Unfortunately the tutorial kills that one too

[@NightmareLuffyRulez]

Only thing i can really think of right now, is an Absolute Minimum challenge. That means through out the game you collect and kill as little as possible no matter what it is. Doing a mission to Collect 50 rings, you only touch those 50. Need to kill 3 enemies, you only do that number. Need a bit of soul gauge to get past an area, you get just enough to get past. etc. etc.

[@VoidRebirth]

Hi! Love your videos! Been a fan since the Black Knight challenge run actually! Now, many people have suggested it, but minimalist challenge seems like a fun run. The best way to describe it would be to do the bare minimum required, as shown with the tutorial levels stopping the other challenges. But I feel this would also double as a minimal pacifist run as well. -You cannot collect more than the required amount of rings/spheres -As such, you cannot kill additional enemies and must try to get the bare minimum with the minimal amount of casualties. -Additionally, your previous challenge of no upgrades also fits as “You have to have the bare minimum”. The goal is to go through the game with the minimum amount required and see exactly how much effort is needed for Sonic and the Secret Rings in the first place? Basically… the school equivalent of “It’ll pass even if it’s right on the line of failing.” Either way, keep up the good work!

[@thedanimal4608]

Since the game is motion controlled, how about how much physical movement is required to beat the game? (Pushing buttons would be free actions, it's only moving the Wii remote around that you'd have to limit)

[@rexcuso6527]

That could be pretty interesting

[@KemoTheKemono]

Sonic And The Secret Rings but Sonic can only move by jump dashing (only truly begins when you unlock the jump dash)

[@Cloveinti_Uno59232]

Now, I didn't hear any restrictions about mods, so here we go. (I pray this game has a mod scene and something like this has been figured out) *Sonic & The Secret Rings Randomizer* Since one of the biggest issues with the original game is the unclear progression and which missions are/aren't mandatory to beat the game, have the levels unlock in a random order (every level beaten flags one random unlock to avoid softlocking; whether or not the original missions in the Lost Prologue that give you the main skills are random is up to you). Ideally, to beat the challenge you have to keep playing until you have the Seven World Rings & have beaten the Erazor Djinn, unlocking Alf Layla-wa-Layla the intended way.

[@TheBebite4409]

a no damage run i'm pretty sure it would be somewhat difficult but im throwing a idea out there but congratulations my guy on 16k

[@ektensol313]

Maybe instead of a challenge video, you could do a a video discussing the party mode? I used to have a lot of fun with it, and it's surprisingly fleshed out for just a side mode, but I feel like I never hear it talked about of acknowledged as existing ever. Also, it’d kind of like be like a party celebration for your achievement

[@TheLobsterCopter5000]

When I first played this game as a kid, I didn't realize you had to actually manually equip the skills to the rings. I just assumed they equipped automatically when you unlocked them. So I beat my first playthrough without using them at all...I was a stupid kid, but I did prove that you don't NEED skills to beat the game, they just let you do it faster. One thing you could try as a somewhat different type of challenge is seeing which missions can be beaten without ANY skills, including the fundamental skills (charge jump, short jump, homing attack, soul gage, jump cancel and jump dash). I know some levels are just straight up unbeatable this way, but others are still beatable, but just significantly harder, and there may be some neat workarounds.

[@drompedino5583]

Congrats on getting far! You've done a lot to get this far and a lot of people are proud of you (I'm one of them). I hope that you continue to have making vids and stay safe!

[@t.b.664]

What about a Secret Rings Genicide run? More specifically, in order to move on to the next mission you'd have to defeat every single enemy in the current mission. If you accidentally run past an enemy before killing it, you're not allowed to just turn back (tilting wii-mote back, pressing 2 to back step, etc.), you must restart the level entierly and try again. The challenge ends when you beat every mission and reach the end credits.

[@t.b.664]

Also, I'm not super familiar with the missions or level layout in Secret Rings, but if any missions have split paths then I'd say the best way to proceed is to just play that mission multiple times, one time for each path, killing all the enemies along that path.

[@zigazav1]

I think there's a mission in that game where you are forbidden to kill anything. But my memory of Secret Rings is bad, except for the true ending of the game. I played the real final battle so many times, that I have the entire true ending burnt into my memory for life, word for word. It's the only part of that game I remember so vividly

[@kolbymiller3440]

Minimalist challenge: If you can't beat the game with NO rings or NO pearls then instead... can we find the minimum required amount? I'd say allow skills because maybe they'll make it more interesting? Or not, i leave that to you Mawde

[@delta3244]

This is a surprisingly good idea for a thank you, considering that it can be summarized as "hey, everyone who I'm thanking: I've had this problem for a while now, and I'm giving it to you. It's your problem now. Have fun with it!"

[@mawdewile]

It is OUR problem now!

[@reggierocks9488]

Wake up babe there is a new Mawde Wile video out!

[@treymoney1019]

How about you have to use a junky controller? Like those bongos. Or maybe a wii add on. If nothing else, maybe you have to wear sum silly

[@chaosspider5765]

Better yet. Hold the wii remote vertically

[@mawdewile]

Actually not against doing those, but idk if Secret Rings allows that kind of controller support

[@treymoney1019]

@@mawdewile yaaay I've been recognized by a creator I like.

[@AnimateMii]

@@mawdewile emulator support (cough Dolphin cough)

[@MJSHappy]

Guitar hero guitar

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

Challenge: use a dancepad or the wiimote jocky adaptor

[@somawurld]

congrats on 16k mawde, i always loved ur channel for puttkng spotlight on lesser known sonic games ive always loved, same with secret rings despite its controls ive always enjoyed your commentary above all else, so even if the no new skills run is boring, maybe upping it to completing every mission or at least every mission you can do yourself could be fun

[@idioticbrady]

Sonic but I have a blindfold on and have to play with only sound

[@JUMPYCOOL]

Secret Rings but you can’t use Motion Controls

[@bigfanofsb653]

I think specifically tilt controls. Pretty sure you can't beat enemies early game without the homing attack

[@littlemonster7917]

@@bigfanofsb653you also need to tilt the controller left and right in order to make it past the first (non-tutorial) level of the game (shuffling on walls) and, also, a bunch of other levels

[@littlemonster7917]

Also the tutorial

[@DeitySkullKid]

I don't remember this game well (played it once to the white ring as a kid while I had a fever, all I remember well is the neverending "seven rings in hand" starts, that was a bad time, ) but dont you havs to walk backwards for a few missions? And isnt that tilt backwards?

[@heroessquad2019]

Secret Rings without using Speed Break nor Time Break, maybe?

[@Enthusiasmmm]

I don't think this would actually be that challenging. I beat the game basically without using time break, and speed break is just for simply going faster. You can beat boss battles without it.

[@heroessquad2019]

@@Enthusiasmmm Welp, I tried to think of something. At least there was an attempt.

[@TaxXempt]

This game is simple enough that you could probably do it blind folded

[@kyrroti]

Something minimalist sounds fun. Minimum upgrades, minimum rings, minimum pearls, minimum steps, minimum jumps, a combination of a few

[@ultimateshadow7522]

I think an "All Gold Medals" Challenge Run would be great because it would also unlock most of the gallery. Although, you'd need to hold off until you unlock Time Break and Speed Break because I think those are outright required to get the Gold Medal time requirements. And to complete the gallery (at least the Story Mode parts) add "Completing Big's Travel Diary" to the mix. You might need to look those locations up because he only appears if you stand still in certain areas in very few stages.

[@Sonic-oh2ly]

I have 2 ideas! Secret rings but you cant slow down, making the 1 button useless and the charge jump iffy, which is actually impactful a surprising amount, or just doing a speedrun of the game with a time goal in mind!

[@devilishjester7718]

This one might require some modifications to work right, but here's one based on megaman weapon master runs: After every stage you buy a new skill, then the next stage has to be beaten while focusing on that skill.

[@TayumeTheMuffinMan]

Honestly, a minimum run sounds really interesting. Could be a minimum ring, pearl, skill, or even minimum jump run.

[@memeboi69-k3v]

Idea: 100% minimal skills equipped. Basically, everytime you beat a level with a skill equipped, you can't unequip it for the rest of the run (or until you run out of skill points and need to equip a new skill if skill points exist in this game), once you 100% the game, the amount of skills you had to equip during the run is your score.

[@greengaming2604]

Best video idea i can come up with is a perfect playthrough. Basically beat the game with a gold medal rank of the stages you do and if you fail you must reset and do it again

[@hgmd3284]

This isn’t about secret rings, but one day, I’d love to see you make a challenge vid on Rayman legends without collecting bronze trophies. Since it’s impossible to beat the game without touching lums, the bronze trophyless way (or 4th place run) is a lot more fun, and I was able to do it utilizing some insane moves and pin-point accuracy. It gets really fun and really hard in the level “elevator ambush”, I reccomend it after secret rings.

[@mawdewile]

Strangely enough, Rayman Legends is on the bucket list

[@hgmd3284]

@@mawdewile ooooo, may impart some strategys to you one day, maybe through discord or something?

[@mawdewile]

I sadly don’t have discord :/ The most I got is an email

[@hgmd3284]

@@mawdewile ah well that can work.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

That game was probably the hardest 5 star requirement ever

[@deepdivesfriday9766]

Idea: complete the entire game but using voice commands, or a Wii steering wheel

[@thepinkcoin1512]

if you can't beat it while just holding 1 why not just make it so you have to only move by jumping and air dashes and need to hold 2 before landing or at the first possible chance to

[@AnimeJeice]

Sonic and the secret rings but you cannot use motion controls to move sonic at *ALL* The thing to take note is you cannot to use motion controls to move *sonic* but objects he can interact with are valid uses, such as the catapult launchers, i’m only bringing this part up as there might be some situations you’re basically forced to use one of those objects to progress and need to move. Idk how creative this challenge will be but who knows.

[@mchan6215]

Secret rings with the Wii Wheel. Would indeed be quite crazy.

[@1for3Gaming]

The minimalist ideas sound most interesting.

[@mann-nova9392]

Maybe a challenge where you get the most amount of rings and pearls in each stage? Deaths would require a stage restart. Might fit a bit with the treasure hunting themes this game has.

[@SaddieMoon]

1:53 “You guessed it!” “BOILED BAGAGE” “Fill your sippy cup with boiled cabbage, and drink up!” “NO THANK YOU!”

[@BiggieCrescent]

That outro was probably the most Gas thing I've ever seen 😳😳😳😳😳😳😤😤😤😤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯

[@gabrielox5110]

Sonic and the secret rings, but you can't tilt the wii remote to go left or right. I don't know if this it's posible, I didn't play the game, but seeing some gamplays I think it's viable

[@Kirbycrasher2746]

Sonic The Secret Rings Pacifist/Minimum kill challenge Maybe?

[@dannybeane2069]

I got two that might be interesting, but may be beyond your set up's ability to do. Idea 1: Playing while using only one hand. Given how, interesting, the controls are. Wonder how challenging it would be one handed. Plus you save time on scripting cause you do like...58 jokes/references to "Seven Rings in Hand". Also, caviate being if you do set the control down, it has to be on a flat, level surface. Idea 2: Playing two handed, but with oven mits, boxing gloves, or something else that impairs your finger dexterity. Yes the idea might be stupid, but it's also dumb. But it might be silly fun.

[@chackbro1]

Sonic and the Secret Rings but every time you unlock a new upgrade, you must equip it You can remove prior upgrades but only if there's no room for the newest one. If you get too many upgrades in a batch, add them from most recent to least recent until you can't add anymore

[@allmegamangamesvods1443]

Do a Challenge run of beating the game without the Homing Attack

[@pyrostorm1700]

i have not played sonic and the secret rings so i am unable to think of a run for it. HOWEVER i adore your content and wanna congratulate you for 16k, hopefully one of many milestones to come

[@parzival-bo]

How about Minimum Homing Attacks? Could be interesting.

[@lucky194]

Sonic and the secret rings but you MUST use the skull skills that make you strong with a secondary effect

[@andremelo1670]

What about a multi game challenge? You have to beat, I don't know, this game and Poker Park at the same time, with one wii remote in each hand. Crazy idea.

[@Scorbunzx]

I haven’t played this game in a while and I’m including the party mode so uhh play the game with as little homing attacks as possible. Also I don’t own the game myself 😅

[@devintheundertalefan5611]

Hmm, how about every mission without skills AND minimum rings?

[@elielavoie8020]

LET'S GOOOO ! NEW VID !

[@Slimeonian]

Is there a way to get the game to follow your own physical movement? Like for example, in order to get sonic to jump in the game, you have to jump irl, and same with moving left or right. For homing attack idk, lean forward or something. Idk how possible that would be, if it is at all. But I think that could be cool

[@drawwithme4494]

Beating game without pressing down sounds like a fun challenge

[@DamashiTheKaotic]

All Secret Rings missions with as few skills as possible.

[@chickensandwich9977]

Excellent intro

[@mr.coolio4321]

No homing attack?

[@champagnesupernova1839]

at this rate it's gonna be a 17k special

[@supersmily5811]

While holding the 1 button might be a bust, you could still do a no walking/running challenge. You could instead try the inverse and do a no jumping challenge, though I have NO idea if that's possible. There's also the combo meal challenge described in other comments, wherein you combine all the ideas you had into a ruleset, similar to Nuzlocke challenges in Pokémon.

[@StarshadowMelody]

100% Minimalist Pacifist. Get as little EXP as possible, kill as few enemies as possible, grab as few rings and pearls as possible, and 100% the game.

[@bonkeykong858]

Either my last suggestion or use the fentanyl and play the game while killing every enemy you see, idk if that would be too easy but idk

[@burgerfries0]

Secret rings without damage?

[@Hurtle885hu8bu]

Holding the Wii remote backwards. All the motion controls would be reversed and the buttons would be on the opposite sides.

[@c_x_3]

Okay idea, beat it with a Steering Wheel controller meant for racing games lol

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

The best ideal its a minimalist run, beating the game with the few requirements possible, maybe you should try beating all the levels(Also all Sonic starting Skill should be fair game, since you need to use it to beat the game).

[@jevenbikex649]

Secret rings but with inverted motion controlls

[@Axerzen]

Get yourself a camera and try to beat the game with a blindfold. First play the game without a blindfold and find all kinds of sound cues or count the amount of seconds it takes before you have to do a certain input. "there's an enemy 5 seconds in after running straight so you have to jump after counting to 5" stuff like that. This sounds at the very least possible for the Lost Prologue. If you aren't comfortable having a camera on, I or someone else will attempt the challenge because it's a really good idea

[@zero1994LP]

After this Tutorial... Maybe what about a 7 Rings Challenge. to collect exactly 7 Rings

[@numbug1234]

What about a NG+ run with the goal of beating every single mission, each individual mission with as few skills as possible? Even the humble jump skill gets disabled if it's possible to beat a stage without it. You rank how many Skills were required to beat a mission, and then at the end tally them all up to see the true minimum amount of Skills required.

[@mawdewile]

You know, I really like that idea. Does Secret Rings even have a NG+?

[@numbug1234]

@@mawdewile Not in the traditional sense, but you can go through each level whenever you want once they're unlocked

[@pedrillowsgates6961]

Secret Rings holding de wii remote with only one hand

[@tommoss5308]

We need to get you a piranha plant hand puppet, save you Alot of time hunting for piranha plants for every emotion and whatnot

[@mawdewile]

Actually just thinking about that. Next time I find one a store, I’ll find a way implement it into the video. I’m a bit iffy with KZbin seeing that and thinking it’s KZbin kids material. Then again, I might just be overthinking that

[@drompedino5583]

I have had an idea for a while but I have to ask, have you ever tried to complete the game without stopping?(in other words, can you bet the game without press the 1 button and not pressing the 2 button for a long time because it causes you to stop to jump far). Since there are a lot of instances where you have to slow down because of different reasons, such as bottomless pits or jumping high. You can only tap on the 2 button to short hop to start chain attacks and you can't stomp because it stops your momentum after touching the ground.

[@girlywolfpup1588]

Complete Secret Rings using a Wii Zapper

[@lucymorrison]

would "without tilting the wii remote forward" (air dash to move only) be feasible?

[@Chilled-Mocha]

Never played Secret Rings, but maybe try one where you cant homing attack

[@adamunown]

I'm not sure if it's possible but beating the game using the Kinect could be interesting, and would sort of act as a sequel to the April Fools video.

[@bonkeykong858]

Secret rings but without the fentanyl

[@chaosspider5765]

Beat the game holding the wii remote vertically

[@Nikitow]

HEAR ME OUT DDR PAD

[@bluebellsforever]

No skills run sounds cool Make the challenge about that !

[@quipt1]

I have no idea for secret rings but you have to try to beat any game with a DDR pad for a controller

[@Ryu_D]

I never finished the game, so I don't know how much of a challenge this would be, but how about a kill everything run? Maybe add breaking every destructible object to the mix? Sorry if this seems utterly ridiculous or way too easy to those who actually know the game.

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

Thought you were gunna change to an Mawille dancing?

[@mawdewile]

I was going to do that for the Pokémon video, but due to time constraints and a lack of knowledge, I canned the idea

[@TM_Em0lga]

There’s a boost in this game right? I think? So why not, Can you beat Sonic and the secret rings without boosting?

[@codex8678]

you can easily do this the boost is not mandatory at all

[@thepinkcoin1512]

so just my normal playthrough of the game but with one or two levels being slightly different

[@beatziegraham6928]

Maybe do a blindfolded playthrough? It is a unique challenge right?

[@fiddlestickjones]

You shoild try to do a minimum jumls challenge, im sure you could find kooky ways to try to circumvent no jumping, or it could be the worst thing ever, who knows

[@Zero_de_Nova]

Since Sonic is on a timer (heart on fire and all) how a bout a run with not only time limites but the soul gauage need to be abouth 1% or its a fail.

[@DinnerSonic]

Can you beat the game while always going full speed? (no breaking or walking backwards or going Sorta Kinda Fast, tallying the moments the game forces you like in tutorials)

[@ricardoj376]

The challenge is going to be just beating the game

[@thedemonslayer1058]

Play the game without stopping ? Or play with the Wii remote vertically?

[@Zuckussbuilder]

Sonic and the secret rings with a wii wheel

[@paulwilliams5949]

You have to 100% the game

[@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon]

Maybe if its possible to do, you could try beating the game with the gun controller add on?

[@christianoxley793]

Without grinding as in grinding for levels

[@andreworders7305]

Can you v beat it while holding the Wii remote vertically?

[@Awecyan32]

Secret rings while collecting every ring possible?

[@artey6671]

I actually thought about Secret Rings today. What are the odds? Anyway, eventually (maybe after beating the game) you can disable basic skills like charging up your jump. Some missions are not beatable when you disable all of them, I think. So maybe you can figure out an interesting combination that makes the game barely playable.