So Called High end Bike shop trashes customers frame.... With Epoxy [Parlee Z5]

[@the_lomax]

I dont know shit about Bicycles but this dude is straight up one of the most honest communicators I've heard on youtube. He doesn't give two fucks about scary colloquialisms lol. Keep it up bruv.

[@user-bq5nl8xf3y]

As someone who worked in a bike shop, in my experience there are no standards and there is no training. The biggest issue is most mechanics don’t know what to look for, especially when it comes to BB’s. Most won’t even think to grab a set of verniers and measure the bb, and even if they did there is a high chance that if it was out of spec that the wholesalers won’t warranty it. Then when you tell the customer that their 15k bike your shop sold them is broken because of a design fault (Cervelo s5 handlebars I’m talking about you) they’re rightly less than impressed… The entire industry needs a kick up the rear end, right from manufacturing to end users. There needs to be standards set and adhered to in procedures, quality, and expectations to name a few.

[@jasper12785]

I've had less than OK experiences with bike shop mechanics as well, which made me decide to buy all the bike tools I needed and start DIYing everything. I bought a badly designed carbon bike and it has cost me a lot of money. After a few years I bought a new frame, non-carbon, with a BSA bb; had an competent and experienced shop do the facing and reaming as well as built me a custom wheelset. I built that bike up myself, learnt to do everything (which isn't that hard in the end) and been happy every since. Although my drop bar 29er doesn't need much maintenance, there's not many people I would trust to work on my bike in all honesty. I'm beyond glad I'm DIYing.

[@jcsrst]

I too don't trust bike shops, having had some less than satisfactory experiences with them. I hate parting with money if I can do it myself! I spent a couple of years learning how to repair, maintain and build my own bikes, this wasn't hard because I am fascinated by the whole process. I am convinced that I am every bit as good if not better than any bike shop mechanic now in this area.

[@spicypretzel7616]

Damn you got a professional reaming ? I need me one of those 🤤🤤🤤

[@jasper12785]

@@spicypretzel7616 I highly recommend it! 😂😂😂

[@phillipcowan1444]

Basically if it's too complicated to work on yourself then its too complicated and you don't need it. The bike is the shining example of the "simple machines" concept but some fookers keep trying to turn it into a formula one car Good onya for taking the time to learn how to to DIY.

[@phillipcowan1444]

@RollinRat Amen brother! Preach! Haha.😀

[@LuescherTeknik]

NOTE TO VIEWERS: Unless you really know what you are doing please don't use a blow torch on your carbon frame just because you saw Hambini do it!

[@markblanch2905]

😄😄

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

I use it to remove stickers, pretty good quality stickers it had layers of carbon underneath. Pretty clever

[@1RA787]

Love how he exposes companies and bike shops. Can't hate him for that. Keep it up!

[@djohnson7091]

Hambini I’ve been watching your videos for about 8 months now. I’ve been impressed by your directness, openness, fearlessness and honesty not to mention your quirky humour. I too have a creaky bottom bracket on a 2017 Norco Valence which was assembled in February of 2021 by my local bike shop mechanics. They have no notion of a proper fix for the problem (they tightened the pinch bolts when I first complained to them about the issue) so I may have to show them some of your videos to straighten them out. I’m in Toronto Canada btw. Keep on keeping on bro.

[@galenkehler]

"So if I push hard enough, I should be able to get it in a fair way by hand" I tried that line before too, but like you I ended up having to use tools.

[@chapmag6578]

Sounds a lot like my early sexual experiences….

[@phil7218]

And lots of lube!

[@KirbyJ89]

@@phil7218 a little spit goes a long way.

[@philipaddyman7402]

Brilliant again, although difficult to surpass the peak you recently reached with the Ribble "aero" bike review - you're still the only reviewer who hasn't just gone along with their bull.

[@colintraveller]

Reviewers .....only care about likes , views and blagging free gear ,,, Doesn't matter what product being reviewed .. you should know within 5 mins of the video or the video title .. that the person is talking utter shite or all of the above .. ..

[@rcg9573]

collintraveller - Spot on! The so called reviews provided by the likes of GravelCyclist, DavidArthur, GCN, BikeRadar, TheRadavist, CyclingTips, etc….. are all about 2 things: the page views- advertising revenue they earn, and keeping their supply of free test samples flowing in their doors. And of course both of those 2 facts completely compromise their independence as reviewers of anything, and make their so called bike and bike component reviews a friggin joke. In reality, they are all effectively nothing but outside contracted marketing arms for the component and bike makers. Why anyone would pay attention to their BS or make a purchase decision based upon their fluff pieces is beyond belief.

[@Rover200Power]

@@rcg9573 Seen recently with the new Dura Ace review. I'm sure they said on the new SRAM review with the 10 tooth sprocket that this was best for efficiency, and now they said the same thing for Dura Ace still having 11 tooth as the smallest. They just quote the marketing materials and never ask any questions.

[@waynosfotos]

I resent that likeness 🤔 lol

[@taichihead42]

@@rcg9573 There a bunch of morons who couldn't give two shits about giving their viewers an honest opinion.

[@somewhatfrog]

22:26 this channel is my favorite British comedy show.

[@tweed0929]

Rather tragedy show.

[@TheVelo17]

others would redo the sequence, not so our 5 years old! Thumbs up for not becoming too professional on the filming!

[@cyklandetidsoptimisten]

😂🤣 Totally agree!

[@b4ptist]

as some one who works in a bike shop, and as someone who is learning more about mechanics, let me tell you that becoming a "professional" is all over the place, in most countries there are no courses to take, no tests to pass, and no way to fail. Your knowledge comes directly from your teacher, and their knowledge, and also their bad habits. I'm lucky, I have a great teacher. Bike mechanics is also changing though, most shops do not fix anything, they simply replace. In their defense components are becoming harder and harder to repair rather than replace. you also make WAY more cash by just slapping on a new part. Newer bikes are also extremely easy to work on in comparison to old bikes from the 60s or 70s. I'm currently suffering over an ancient Peugeot. So the general level of skill of mechanic has fallen I think. I'm not trying to crank my own shaft here either, I'm very much a beginner mechanic, but it seems the way bikes and mechanics is going is to just replace, so when you come to a technical actual mechanical problem lots of mechanics get stumped because they just don't have the knowledge to address the actual core MECHANICAL issue, and they do something INSANE like glue a fucking BB in on an insanely expensive bike, how you could ever do this is insane to me.

[@markifi]

it didn't say anywhere on the cytech exam you shouldn't glue in a bottom bracket /s

[@dmrfnk]

Yeah a mechanics education is from their own mistakes after what colleagues and the different tech guys from bike & components companies can teach you. You have to be critical of all of it and think for yourself because they are not necessarily technically educated either and may talk out of their ass for lack of knowledge just as well as to keep up appearances for their employer, not acknowledging the real cause of the problem you're facing. As for what you repair and what you replace... I don't think you lose skill in anything but wheel building and cup&cone bearing overhauls. You still need to identify what is broken or worn and why, the old guys had to learn it and so do the new ones. What I'm expecting though is a lot of shitty mechanics because the business is booming and you can't have a good teacher for nearly every new mechanic in that situation.

[@TuneDownUtilities]

"you also make way more cash by slapping on a new part". Highly situational. In my experience most of the time repairing is actually more expensive when you have it done by a mechanic. You have to consider the time cost of identifying the broken part, tracking down or fabricating a new one, and then installing the new part. There is also a chance of breaking more parts while repairing. Especially when the part is old. You also have to provide a warranty for the part you installed and even when something else in the repaired part breaks later you have to prove to the customer that your repair wasn't the cause. First example that comes to my mind is pedals. A customer will laugh at me when I offer him to regrease and adjust his pedals for 15€/piece when the pair costs

[@aveedub7403]

Much like the motor industry, now its diagnose, remove and replace with new as parts are almost impossible to repair, maybe deliberately to keep the cash stealers in clover!

[@josemorenoporras7506]

Bikes are dead easy to work with,new bikes come with manuals and info you can check online. Old bikes and road bikes need more fine skills and experience. Enduro and DH bikes are easy to work with but time consuming due number of links and frame pieces. What problem do you have with that old bike? Some could be tricky to repair cos most of people who knows well the stuff is dead or retired now.

[@mytglg6uh]

Bought a Parlee Z5SLI new and been riding it for 8 years...my winter bike and climbing bike. Use Kogel bottom bracket cups / Dura Ace gruppo, and have never had one problem at all. Bike has been perfect and a joy to ride thousands of kilometers over the past 8 years.

[@stefannewels1823]

I always "offered" glueing in BB's and such as a joke... To see this joke become reality hurts a lot!

[@613.Rooster]

New here. Got fed this vid. Amazed and fascinated by the engineering precision as you explain it. I would never ride let alone own a bike made this way. It's an example of incomplete technology. That is, something brought to market before it is flawless and functional for the end user. That seems to be where we are with electric cars for example. So I have steel bikes and internal combustion vehicles. They work more than 9 times out of 10 with little fuss.

[@jamesb1717]

Injured my knee Saturday so had a lot of time on my hands. I now know more about bottom brackets, bearings and shite frames than I ever did! Cheers.

[@Bikeserker]

Speaking as a self trained mechanic (not professional, but trying to be professional at what I do, not this level of crap repairs) who has been working at a bike shop for two years, I want to say, is outrageous the amount of wrenches going around selling their work as "pro bike mechanics". I try to stay humble, the shit stays in the shop, if something is above my level I kindly step down. But I've seen a lot of bad repairs in this short amount of time, badly assembled wheels, missaligned derailleur hangers that are "perfectly adjusted", etc. Continous education is a must in any field, and I keep learning all the time, watching your videos has taught me new things. Thanks to you I was able to diagnose a bike with a bottom bracket shell that was out of spec, it was a factory defect and got sended back to the supplier (alubike, mexican brand). Funny side of the history is that came "assembled by a pro mechanic" who is from another shop in the area and keeps talking shit about any other store mechanics, the fucker just gave a bike with a seized crankset the ok. I couldn't get my engineer degree in mechanic, but I keep studying and learning even if this alone won't get me a degree. Thank you Mr Hambini for teaching us in style (that hairdresser better getting a nice tip), and keep us lowly bike mechanics humble, love the presentations. Greetings from Mexico, excuse the bad english btw...

[@jffydavy5509]

Identify a problem, determine the cause, finding and clearly explaining the solution. A skill and an art! Two qualities only the most competent can do at the same time.

[@keithevans5667]

Yay I got a Hambini fix! I had a set of Campag Super Records like those cranks and the seals failed. (On my Brompton!) Well done.

[@elstoof]

Super Record on a Brompton?

[@keithevans5667]

@@elstoof Dura Ace now... the Carbon Cranks! also 9100's on another and Royce Trilobe track cranks! ;-) Hambini BB next!

[@lukeschmidtaa]

What am I reading, lmao

[@elstoof]

Square taper Ultra Torque 👌

[@sidshel4428]

in my experience no such thing as professional mechanic. most are just guys who got interested in bicycle repair. it was only after they 'f' upped my bike that I learned how to do it on my own. maybe I should be called a pro . another great video thanks hambini

[@BFinesilver2]

Depends how they've been trained. I have a mate who went to Switzerland 3 times to be a level 3 Shimano mechanic. He trains other mechanics as his job.

[@sidshel4428]

@@BFinesilver2 thanks good to hear. I think park tool also has a good school

[@workshopninjathe1st]

Wow a Parlee - finally a bike I own Having worked on and sold a lot of Z5 and Z5sl frames at the time (10 years ago) I can confirm they outsourced the manufacture to China. We only had a few problems with them - mostly with the new at the time Z5sl which had the PF30. Most problems came from the proprietary front derailleur clamp slipping down the seat tube. I still have my Z5 bb30 version - my favorite bike - thank for not ruining my faith in it.

[@edwardhcahill964]

My Parlee Z5 also had a BB problem--creaking. Over a 3 year period, my LBS replaced the press fit BB 3 times; they would be ok for a while then start creaking. The last replacement has been good for several years; the used a "higher grade" Loctite. Parlee's strap on FD clamp was replaced on the original install. It was too flexible for my SRAM Red yaw FD. The Parlee Z5 remains my first bike and has been upgraded to SRAM Force AXS drive train. I have had several Campy bikes with the Hith cranks and BB cups but they were always threaded. I can't believe that Campy used the same design for press fit minus the threads. They look like they would wobble quickly. Enjoyed the video. The solution for the BB was impressive. Hope the owner enjoys his Z5 as much I have enjoyed mine.

[@dewiz9596]

The most reliable, most free-running bottom bracket I have is on a 35-year-old Team Miyata. . . square taper, with uncaged balls. For the life of me, I don’t know what later iterations are trying to solve.

[@Rover200Power]

Uncaged balls do feel good.

[@tweed0929]

Right. I have Colnago Super 1981' with original Campagnolo square taper BB. That shit just refuses to die.

[@soylentgreen326]

@@Rover200Power nearly spat me beer out 🍻

[@littlehistory2392]

@@Rover200Power best comment ever!

[@shamuslamont100]

Problems for the manufacturer (revenue), not the user!

[@stevennorth6484]

I'm still on square taper campag centaur & chorus on 2 of my bikes, I've never heard such a rough sound on a campag set up. Have no intention of changing neither, as long as I can get hold of square taper I'm happy with the old fashioned stuff.

[@johnrichards7984]

Bike shop mechanics are not engineers, they don’t have a lathe or anything other than rudimentary measuring tools. They are only trained to assemble/dissemble bikes, identify worn/broken parts and replace them with new parts out of a catalogue, not manufacture unique solutions to fit out of specification production frames. As far as I can see every Hambini issue/solution is fixing frame manufacturing defects where proper quality control (a base case requirement for a £2,000 - £5,000 product) would fix the problem. The reason the bike shops are not ‘calling this out’ is because they are in the same boat as Hambini, ie likely to find the bike manufacturers trying to close them down, but with less voice and a lot more capital at risk. We are the mugs, following advertising and buying into the BS of lighter, stiffer, more compliant, aero, etc etc. without demanding an engineers report and an ultrasound/x-ray with every high end, high priced frame, to validate the bottom bracket is within spec and the carbon fibre has been assembled with necessary structural rigidity.

[@rcg9573]

No one is expecting any shop mechanic to break out a lathe and custom mill bottom brackets or any other bicycle component. In fact no one above suggested that. You just implied that someone expected that so you could feebly attempt to support your stupid irrelevant point! What we do expect is that any competently “trained mechanic” possess the minimal skills of a mechanic such as the ability to use a pair of friggin calipers to measure a BB hole for roundness, and spec. This is stuff a kid can literally be taught how to do in under 5 minutes, a kid! If you think measuring a bottom bracket hole for spec and roundness is a “serious skill” you and I have very different views of what classifies as a serious skill and likely very different views of what qualifies as even a rudimentary skill level for a given job and we can leave it at that! 😆

[@robertlund5694]

We don't expect mechanics to go that far but we expect them to be able to diagnose the problem! The fact that a lot of mechanics and shops in general don't care is as bad as badly made frames.

[@RuinInScotland]

Lovely as ever the pen is working … I’ll have to check my bearings

[@Geeraffe]

Hambini known to have shot his preload over his hairdresser. Allegedly

[@CyclespeedTours]

Oh cum on!

[@phil_d]

I need a fix for my BB30A Cannondale and Rotor cranks. Sporting a C-Bear BB but either the preload ends up crushing the bearings or having a creaking BB. Will be in touch!

[@svistaq2907]

at least they used poor quality epoxy, so it was easier to remove it

[@deadreckoner5276]

lol

[@chapmag6578]

During my early sailing days, we would say if it couldn’t be fixed by epoxy or duct tape, then it couldn’t be fixed :)

[@svistaq2907]

Well, been thinking about it and I belive problem might had occured at prepering this joint- propably previous support was well greased before putted in, and they didnt put enough attention to clean frame well. This ended up with epoxy that didnt stick to frame. Well Alfred You propably right, however even at home if you use good epoxy and mix it up by eye (I mean epoxy like UHU two part epoxy) You can get much better joint if You prepare surfaces well.

[@Patstar777]

This is why I don’t let “professional” (or unprofessional for that matter) mechanics touch my bikes. I work on and maintain them myself. I’ve got a stable of 4 I ride, plus my wife’s 2 I maintain. All are tip top.

[@jcsrst]

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[@benjaminrichard3528]

2/3rds of the people that watch Hambini are 'home mechanics' anyway. Not sure why you are having a go at bike mechanics.

[@robertp7209]

@@benjaminrichard3528 it is presumed, so called professionals do it better. With my gear, not a chance.

[@denismacfarlane255]

Im a mechanic/service manager. Although the shop I work at is a krusty old place, I always thrive to learn. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know about shell is out of spec. When you ca. Press/ remove the bearings with your fingers, measure the freaking thing. Simple enough- Hambini thx for the advice on Trek Madone bb issue.

[@giusipiecha9096]

worse thing i did was to buy a bike from shop (i got 2 from box before) it was assembled worse then those from box. after first service visit (which i have to do to have guarantee) they even loosen my cassette - found out only while hashing it i could move it with my hand ... i was so pissed off ...

[@durianriders]

Massachusetts IS a suburb in Xaimen if you are talking most Parlee frames haha

[@drjwbriand]

just one of the reasons i got the hell out of the people's republic of massachusetts about 15 yrs ago!

[@oatmealeverymorning]

"people are on the internet and people are fucking stupid." Slap that on a jersey, perfect merch slogan.

[@higdaw]

as someone who ran service departments at bike shops. The idea of a "trained mechanic", at least in the US, is a joke.. Unlikely. Also trained does not mean competent.

[@pavanatanaya]

Bike shops do not pay technicians. There is always one clown who leans against the work bench all day long espousing his skill, and how the shop would close if it wasnt for him

[@cecilecorpuz5735]

Here in EUROPE! No difference! I'm from the U.S. One day many years ago I had a shop in San Jose Ca. One day a very nicely dress guy came into my shop he asked if he could check it out, I said nothing here to look at because I will mostly fix bicycles! Anyway every once in awhile I would fix bikes for other shops, just so happens Bob from the Bike lane called he had a bike that needed to be rethreaded from ENGLISH Thread to ITALIAN I said no problem send it over, when my hands are greasy I'll be talking on a speaker phone so this guy can hear everything! Soon after I get a call from Jeff at the BIKE CHAIN! Baron I got a problem with a bike can I send him over, I said sure! Well the BIKE LANE bike arrives, ok set it over there and I'll check it out ASAP! So Chris leaves, soon after I'm checking this BB out, we'll I tried installing the cup and it falls inside! Well that's no good, I then thread in another cup from my stocks and it's all good I then get on the horn! Hey bob turn your guy around, your problem is not the BB it's the cup that is bad cost of the new cup is $ 5.00! Geeze 40 miles total to try to fix a bike when it only needs a $ 5.00 part! Later on the Bike chain bike arrives, I saw the problem when he was pulling the bike out of his truck, I told him I can't fix it! He said you didn't even look at the bike, I said I saw the problem as you were pulling it out of the Truck the frame and forks are bent beyond repair! He said that he already spent roughly $ 800.00 for the repairs! I told him some your old parts are probably still good! At that time the nicely dressed guy guy said OK! I'VE SEEN ENOUGH! He handed me his business card, we'll have a mutual friend, I'm from Blah! Blah! cycles in TORANTO and I'm in need of a head mechanic! As it turns out the guy that we both know instructs at the UNIVERSITY Of TORANTO! Anyway this guy will teach for 2 years and next 2 years he will be touring around the U.S. on his bicycle. He would drop in on bicycle shops to work for some traveling money, I've had 2 visits from him. Anyway this guy would I guess work or help out in this shop, this guy told me every time that we would have a troubled bike this professor guy would say, that guy in San Jose can fix it! That guy in San Jose can fix it! I asked this guy the professor with all his travels in the U.S. he must of mentioned some other guys as well, he said no He will only talk about you. I asked how big is this shop, he said it's 3 stories high and we'll have 15 work stations, 8 for repairs and 7 for the assembly of new bikes, I 'm in need of a Head mechanic! I said you came all the way from TORANTO to offer me a job! He said, well my wife has been hounding him for a trip to San Francisco, I figured it's only 50 mile from San Jose! So this was my chance to go and see you. I asked so where's your wife? He said in San Fran with the kids! I've been hearing about you for roughly 3 years! I'll pay you a very good wage! Pay for your move, and we'll find you a place to live! I stood by the door and said I don't think you'll be able to beat this California sun shine! He said, I thought so, at least I tried! I'LL have a friend former classmate from high school who a BRIN SURGEON! He would hand out in my shop wanting to watch me fix his bike! He said you know Baron you can become a GREAT BRAIN SURGEON! I SAID! How's that, he said I like to watch the way you handle your tools when fixing my bike, it's a science! Fixing some ones Brain is easy! Anyway he was purchasing a new MAVIC Equipped RAZESA from me, I'll be picking my wife up from work in the city when doing so I'll be bringing you your new rig! He said! OK! So I did, he said come up and I want you to meet some friends as it turns out they were all doctors and surgeons and so on! One of them said, so your the next GREAT Brain Surgeon! We've been hearing about for for roughly 2 years! We all had a drink! And I said OH! SHIT! I'm late I need to pick up my wife for dinner! I'm not a trained mechanic, self thought 100% The only instructions I have ever had was reading the instructions for SUNTOUR ACCUSHIFT everybody hated it! I said have you read in instructions I'll be of great help! I'll have TONS! And TONS of GREAT BIKE SHOP STORIES! Da! I'm here in HOLLAND and will have a some customers from GERMANY, BELGIUM, DENMARK AND FRANCE! And of course customers from here in HOLLAND! When having shop in the U.S. some of my customers would tip me very nicely, I'll fix a bike for $ 35.00 and the customer would give me a 50 and say keep the change! One customer tipped me 200,00 for his repair! One day this customer brought in a $ 25.00 yard sale bike a PEUGEOT folding bike! He wanted it to be repaired I said! Are you sure??? It's in need A LOTs and LOTs of work, 700.00 to 800.00? He then stuck 500.00 on the table and said I'll be back in 2 weeks I pay the balance then!

[@derekarcher8495]

Gold! Loved the bit where you called Campy "wankers" - gave you a "like" just for that! For the record, I consider myself a professional bike mechanic but there's no waaay I would do a bodge job like that (I like to think I have more common sense than that, but you never know...). I hope the owner lets everyone know who these arse clowns are. Keep up the great work, you made my week. Cheers!

[@T_Mo271]

"Trained mechanic" is maybe a bad assumption, at least in the USA. "Employed as a bike mechanic" is more likely.

[@pavanatanaya]

Haven't met a cyclist yet who doesn't cry poor mouth when having to actually pay for bike repairs.

[@simonwoodford8728]

Got to be impressed by a mechanic that can remove poxy glue from a carbon frame with a blow job over a dirty princess - I still love my Ultra Torque groupsets but its nice to have the problems that their design can cause if they are poorly installed or maintained explained as well as Hambini does. As his love rival (Peak Torque) has explained, Campag's carbon crank arms are much less likely to fail from the internal moisture egress that Shimano's hollow alu crank arms allow (particularly in high humidity countries) so its a matter of deciding which of the two designs best suit your needs and patterns of use. Both are generally well made and the mid to higher spec variants generally work very well with the Shimano gear usually very good out of the box at a slightly up-front lower cost whereas Campag's gear is often both more durable and IMHO easier on the eye for those of us who like to keep their bikes for longer periods of time.

[@nickash5]

The kind of BB that makes you wonder why use it in the first place. Anyway, if the customer wants u to fit it in let them know if it's out of spec, usually happens. The engineers that come in with their bikes for service don't have much to say, they leave the mechanic to do the job, but like to watch. The 50 cents engineers are the ones with the big mouths and bring in their bikes after they themselves messed their bikes up in their garage. Just remember if you send your bike to a regular shop the range of tools limits what they can do. But if the owner wants something done there with the boss screaming at the mechs to get it done quick especially on crappy frames / bikes, expect crap to happen. The mech doesn't need a tool to measure it, they won't do it. They'll just see the fit and tell you to take it back to the seller. You go to an engineering machine shop to repair your frames and solve strange defects. Just like professional mechanics in the race team, if the part is out of spec, or questionable, bin it, and the engineers can go look at it later. So Hambini got the part out, problem solved. The initial install just looked messy. WTH it isn't re-sleeving a cylinder block.

[@mancello]

The Great Hambini does it again! He needs a stage in Vegas.

[@hw5533]

I'm another commenter that decides to maintain their own bikes because I simply can't trust/afford other people. About 5 years ago I bought an old Look carbon XC frame. Not wanting to worry about press fit bottom brackets, I got an FSA BSA converter. Instructions required loctite and I pressed it in using a homemade kit with a threaded bar. It's been in ever since and not caused me any problems. My motto has always been, do your research, buy the tools, do it better than a professional (or as good as).

[@jcsrst]

Parlee is located in Beverly Massachusetts, some custom bikes are built there and most are "made to exacting standards overseas."

[@rcg9573]

Nobody chooses to move their manufacturing overseas to build to exacting standards. They do so to lower costs and increase profits. But that part of the Parlee sales brochure is funny.

[@theonlyjasonkirk]

New routine for watching Hambini videos - employ mute for the first 5 seconds to avoid bleeding ears then sit back, relax and wait for a hairdresser to arrive... 😂

[@RICHARD.WRIGHT1]

I am a Cetified Shimano Service Technician running the workshop in an SSC store. If a BB does rotate freely, then the cause is either the BB bearing setup, the BB shell i.e. hole the BB is fitted into, OR THE MECHANIC using hammers or a bench vice to knock cups and bearings into frames! All tools are generally supplied by the component manufacturer, be it Campag or Shimano, otherwise there are PRO tool producers like VAR COBRA PRO Ceramic Speed just to name a few. You can't do a good job without good knowledge or good tools! Experience is also part of the job, just like online courses and technical semminars. LONG LIVE Mitutoyo!

[@qp8953]

I'm surprised the bike shop didn't send the frame to a UK official campy service centre who would have quickly figured out quickly that the frame wasn't to spec. They might not have offered such an elegant fix as Hambini has, but at least there woudn't have been any epoxy...

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

Good fix but you really should explain briefly which Hambini BB you fitted and whether it was custom etc. It would clear up any questions and complete the presentation, as well as promoting your products and services.

[@MOTOMINING]

5:33 Just a heads up, it's not good practice to force go-no-go plug gauges. The size is the size, and it either goes or it doesn't. If you force it, you risk deforming the part, as well as peeling a thin layer off the gauge or denting it. The key is to drop it in as straight as possible.

[@weijingburr2392]

It's cause Trained Mechanic doesn't necessarily mean Good Mechanic. Actually, in my experience, whenever someone says they're a Trained Professional I run away as fast as possible.

[@fariasfrank]

Love the way you give bike manufactures so much crap on their crap build. LOL. Hilarious. but what i enjoy most about you videos is that, your arrogant attitude towards crap companies, is justified by you knowledge and background in engineering plus, it's the honest truth !!. Keep making videos as we all love watching them. from Victoria, Australia. !!!! Thank you!!! LOL

[@mcspikesky]

When I'm struggling to preload I tend to just crank it harder and harder.

[@dkelly7159]

Hambini do sell those BB hole measure things? I have a flange that I need to check is up to spec. No it's not my hairdressers this time!

[@Hambini]

if you ping me an email i can send you a drawing.

[@deeplato5647]

*+1 for Hambini T-Shirts* in the Merch Store!

[@rickcski8082]

Is Xiamen next to Rhode Island?

[@1969Escobar]

Great work as always, cheers

[@ellwitz9838]

What did you think of the Parlee front derailleur band clamp? Neat bit of kit

[@davidd1492]

As always learn something from all your videos. Excellent stuff👍👍

[@nickk1658]

Superb! Most enjoyable (for me) Hambini vid in a while.

[@tomermahlis12]

You should review pinarello frames are they up to the hype or all bs

[@tomermahlis12]

@RollinRat there’s bb is very common and the industry moves back to threaded BB the Italian thread are one clockwise and the other side is anti-clockwise so recess thread that’s it u can by threaded bb from hambini website so idk what u talking about but thanks for the explanation regardless

[@Tech128]

I was curious so I looked it up Parlee Cycles. They are located in Beverly, Massachusetts USA. The frames are designed in MA. The frames are manufactured to Parlee specifications in Asia. The company assembles bikes in Beverly, Massachusetts. The company has a dealer network, if the frame owner had an authorized dealer work on the bottom bracket, they should share their experience with Parlee.

[@ogiermeister]

Hi Hambini, you legend! Few questions for you 1) What happened with your Shimano crank? Is it that bonding issue PT talked about in great detail? 2) What do you think of electric car movement? 3) What car model would you recommend on engineering excellence terms, for us common people?

[@Hambini]

1. It has started to come apart on the drive side. 2. I think it's inevitable that 15 years from now, everyone iwll be on electric 3. Subaru WRX STI. Okay not perfect but the 4wd system is a work of perfection. The best handling car that normal people can afford by quite some margin.

[@TypeVertigo]

@@Hambini yep that's the debonding issue PT has addressed on the Ultegra and Dura-Ace cranks. As he says, it's specific to the drive side, as Shimano effectively made that arm "hollow" by making the things out of two pieces bonded together at the perimeter. By contrast, the non-drive side is supposedly a solid forging across all models/tiers.

[@littlehistory2392]

Soooo want Hambini to do a "Hello Little History fans" for m y channel!!! I tried doing my own but it did'nt come out off the decibel scale or manly enough, nor did it attract any hair dressers!! :)

[@Hambini]

Ping me an email

[@littlehistory2392]

@@Hambini Pinged.....holy sh**, my next vid will be instantly 1 million% louder! Hairdressers! you may start forming a queue :)

[@WyattFunk96]

Cervelo and a few other brands have recommended using Loctite for solving the problem he was having (cups falling out) glad but also frustrating to see it’s a manufacturer defect and not just how it’s supposed to be. Wish QC was better on these “high end” frames I’ve been selling.

[@victorrodriguez2806]

Rare boys..... I'm sorry you've been put in this situation. I know it won't help in getting a raise, but stop telling yourself your selling high end frames. It's all generic mass produced crap. A bunch of chinese ladies in aprons and gloves mashing pieces of sticky carbon sheets into molds. The makers don't ride these bikes. At the end of their work day, they just want to go home and spend time with family and rest. They don't give a fu@# how it comes out in the end. They're probably getting paid by the piece. So the more they make the better off they are.

[@stevenfreeman7798]

Was actually feeling a bit depressed until I popped this video on. All sorted now lol!!. You have to love Hambini! Always trying to make things better for us all by exposing cycling industry shit!. Many thanks Hambini plus funny as fuck!.

[@felixlessard7000]

As a bike mechanic, it's not an easy field to become highly trained because of low wages and most of the time, no courses or technical training offered. In an ideal world, bike mechanics should indeed understand the science behind it but it's not worth it since there is no viable career in fixing bikes for most of us. Blaming mechanics for trying to fix problems made the the bike industry isn't fair I think.

[@ChrisBrown-xf2ce]

Exactly!

[@10ktube]

I'm so happy the "pen is working" came back. I swear if that makes it's way onto a t-shirt, sign me up.

[@mikodesignMob555]

Show us the hair dresser. how are the tolerances on the bore hole

[@Hambini]

perfect fit

[@agie170hss2]

@Hambini: Was the new aluminum part anodized? If not, are you concerned about galvanic corrosion at all in the future?

[@Hambini]

Anodizing won't stop galvanic corrosion

[@iKone911]

I took my brand new Eddy Merckx MX Leader to College Park Bicycles in Maryland (about an hour from me) in the mid 90s to have a headset fitted. They cut the steerer tube so short that only two threads made contact. Too dangerous to ride. I ended up ordering another fork from Merckx in Belgium and cut it myself. That was the last time I ever had a bike shop touch any of my bikes. I bought the tool for pressing cups in as well. Never looked back.

[@BenitoAndito]

Serious question: Why is using a bore gauge not the best for measuring the hole? Still want to see a video where you walk us through using a CMM on the bb shell.

[@Hambini]

It doesn't show alignment which is often worse than fit

[@andorsn]

@@Hambini is there an easy way for consumers or small shops to measure alignment? I think it would be helpful to have a video or blog post on different ways of measuring BB shells and their pros and cons. I recently tried calipers and found it difficult to get a repeatable reading, not sure if that was because of the tool, my talent or the precisely manufactured frame.

[@Hambini]

@@andorsn For measuring holes, the go and no go gauges are the easiest thing. They are pretty much idiot proof. For alignment, a CMM or a boring machine would be the methods of choice.

[@cpk313]

Dirty Princesses, the backbone of this channel.

[@Neilhuny]

Oooh, new Hambini vid' - time to switch to the big screen and watch on the smart TV

[@Manwichman]

Opener ALWAYS makes me damn near sheit myself! Your channel goes to 11 while all others are at a 10!!!🙋🤣

[@T_Mo271]

So if the epoxy-mechanic didn't have access to a machine shop to make a custom BB, what would be the best way to fix the worn frame? Or is it scrap?

[@Hambini]

If it's the frame, then get in touch with the manufacturer, if it's the cup then campag. The point is they didn't check

[@vh7368]

Campagnolo actually recomend some type of locktite for fitting the cups. Needless to say, I knew better and put mine in with grease.

[@nu_Ken99]

That’s interesting. My shop told me that Campag USA recommended anti-seize grease on my PF30 cups

[@vh7368]

@@nu_Ken99 Then you are lucky to have a good shop! The European Campagnolo PDF manual for UT pressfit cups recomend Loctite 603 or 609 together with a 7471 or 7649 primer.

[@firesurfer]

"The Asian-made Z4 and Z5 are the only bikes in the Parlee range to use conventional water bottle bolts..." from Bikeradar By James Huang Published: October 19, 2011 The important part is asian made.

[@T_Mo271]

I'm interested in hearing more about the non-standard water bottle bolts.

[@firesurfer]

@@T_Mo271 :)

[@rcg9573]

The Parlee Chebacco and Altum are also both made in Taiwan.

[@PhiyackYuh]

@@rcg9573 are they really? I have the altum and no issues so far. Parlee is known to make quality frames.

[@ChrisP978]

The Z0, Z1, Z2, Z3 are made in house in Beverly MA not far from me, they can be ordered with custom geometry. The other ones they have to compete more on price so they are made in Asia. They are hiring if anyone enjoys monotonous assembly work.

[@derosa1989]

My eleven year old Parlee Z-1 with it's titanium english threaded insert still has Chris King cups that spin like a windmill in a Texas hurricane, worn out 4 sets of chainrings, and the BB bearings feel like new. The precision of their USA build is second to none. The Z-5 is an Asian made frame, still very good quality all around, but i'll keep my threaded BB shells just the same.

[@lukecico5155]

Parlee are superb bikes made in Beverly, Massachusetts, which is on the north shore of Boston. The Hambini dude said it was from “Jammitt” which is a suburb of Massachusetts. Other high end Boston builders include Firefly, Seven and Independent Fabrication (in NH actually). I just felt the need to set the record straight.

[@Sills71]

It is funny... it used to be that if you rode a high end road bike you were expected to wrench on your own stuff... you might not do everything but you had to have a good basic knowledge, it was part of the sport. Today you have punters throw down $10k plus and then never touch a wrench. I had a friend spend $10k on a Colnago c64 rim brake bike... I went over to see it and the front brake need aligned... a 10 second job... I wanted to show him but he was not interested... said he took everything to the shop. The customer here should have asked how they would fix it and when they told him epoxy he should have taken the frame.

[@brookegravitt4117]

Apologies from this side of the pond as to the use of epoxy to secure a BB. We normally prefer duct tape here.

[@deadreckoner5276]

Stop being a self-loathing American.

[@TheHairy69]

back in the 70's every 14 year old lad could strip his bike down to component parts and do whatever was needed without the need for any professional mechanic, I remember regreasing cup and cone bearing just because it was spring and I'd ridden through winter. I had a chat with my local bike shop mechanic and very quickly realised he was simply an idiot with a high price tag.

[@josemorenoporras7506]

now you could do it too,you got even more info,videos and could ask very easy to any other friend

[@fieldlab4]

You can still do this. And the bike will still weigh 45 pounds perform like garbage.

[@dominikhavel8102]

"I had a chat with my local bike shop mechanic" When I was buying a new bike, they told me to tighten the thru axles just slightly. I remembered Peak Torque and tightened both thru axles to 11 Nm at home before my first ride on the new bike. Since then, I ride with a big allen key to be able to unscrew the thru axle anywhere but I know it's worth it. :-)

[@fieldlab4]

@RollinRat I didn't say there was anything wrong with 40 pound bikes or old standards. It depends on what you want to do with it. If you have to mash up a 1000 foot hill every day or you have to bunny hop the thing over curbs it's a poor choice. Personally, I ride old school aluminum and steel bikes. 130mm qr axles and good narrow bottom brackets with a low Q factor. Through axles are garbage designed to LOOK like a motorcycle axle but without the clamps and real advantages. Even my mountain bikes are 135mm wide at rear. Why anyone would ride super wide garbage is beyond me. Maybe they like hitting chainstays with feet or pedal strikes through turns.

[@joebolan4082]

@RollinRat back then, 22 lbs was pretty light. LOL. I still have a lot of those 'vintage' bikes, and they last forever, even with my lack of scrupulous cleaning. I will admit to selling the Brooks saddle that came with one bike due to weight. Broke in my arse on plastic instead. It was a poor choice.

[@potatoarms]

Pretty sure youtube knows what I like. This was recommended and so bloody good! I am a sub now

[@fieldlab4]

I was sitting on the toilet innocently watching this episode when your HHEELLLLLOOO literally scared the sh!t out of me.

[@bobsidian]

Lmao same!

[@rolux4853]

I’m glad you where already on the toilet when that shit got scared out of you. Would’ve been quite unpleasant otherwise.

[@snedmeister5864]

"Transitioning toward shite" lmao. Almost choked on my brew!!

[@manitoublack]

In this episode you mentioned and showed the drive-side circlip and it's pin-holes. Curious why you don't include them in your replacement system? As this is their to prevent lateral walk of the cranks?

[@Hambini]

if you have enough preload, you don't need it.

[@bbarber6845]

Love the ending, like you had to get it in before your mom and dad came in. If that frame came from the USA then I’m not surprised they JB welded that bb in.

[@lobuxracer]

I've JB welded motorcycle engine cases after a minor drop and run a 6 hour endurance race that way. No way that was JB in the hole, it came out far too easily.

[@bbarber6845]

@@lobuxracer I trained at Barnett Bicycle institute then with USA Cycling. Then couldn’t find a shop to afford me. The shops I did work at would’ve used a ‘fix’ like this. Just mean to say that the shops in the USA aren’t as ‘professional’ as so would want. Especially with the price of bike these days.

[@lobuxracer]

@@bbarber6845 Agreed 100% about the average LBS in the US. I was once a teenage bicycle "mechanic" in a shop where something like this could have happened for sure. Since then, I've worked on motorcycles, cars, and aircraft and learned a great deal that would have been a huge benefit to me when I was wrenching on bicycles. Knowing where I started also makes me much more critical of where I allow someone else to work on my machines. I still do the vast majority of maintenance and repairs on all the equipment I own, including my home, appliances, cars, and the family bicycles.

[@thejohnson9204]

You Sir, are brilliant. New fan from Australia.

[@zzhughesd]

I finally have pressfit creak. Changed bearing. No longer snug fit they fall out on crank spline. Do I now need oversize. People talk about using 641 loctite. Don’t fancy this.

[@joeycottontail4527]

Most people in the states dispose of stuff or sell it to let it be somebody else’s problem. When you factor price of new vs price and quality of service to fix it then it has to be a very special item to roll the dice. Started biking again about 5 years ago and one visit and conversation at LBS sent me rocketing to KZbin University for my DIY degree in bikesicle engineering.

[@DerFilmgucker]

My Centaur cranks are running fine, even when Ultra Torqued. It’s the last silver crankset in the market. On a threaded Italian BB it is, of course, easier. We sometimes used epoxy on BMX frames in the early 90s when American BBs were the norm. It went ok.

[@timwhiskerd2133]

I have taken all your good advice. My hair dresser is still alive and well. Just to avoid confusion, my hairdreseer is female.

[@pdm67]

Did you make your BB to use standard bearings rather than the narrower Campag ones that go with their cups? If not could that have been an option?

[@Hambini]

On campag, that's a function of the crank and not the BB. However the BB will accept standard 6805's the modification is required on the crank - you basically have to remove the outer seal.

[@seascape]

The Parlee Z5 SLi frame is made in China, and the bike is assembled in Beverly, Massachusetts, about 30 minutes northeast of Boston by car. They’re a small bike manufacturer who make very good bikes, and their higher end and custom frames are made in the US. I’ve been riding one for about 7 years, and had the dreaded PF30 BB creaking problem 2 years ago. I sent the frame to Parlee, and they replaced it with their BB for Shimano cranks for about $100. It would have been covered under warranty, but I had previously widened the chainstays to fit wider tires. So don’t be afraid to contact the manufacturer (Tom Rodi at Parlee is a great person to deal with) and find a good mechanic!

[@trialmx]

HELLO HAMBINI I'M A FAN! Looks like I'm in need of a little honing for a hole that's not WI.DE enough. Where can I get that BB386 go/nogo gauge? Is a local machine shop the best option? 46/45.95 mm is what I need? Thanks

[@Hambini]

Yes and yes

[@trialmx]

@@Hambini in related shite, the rivnut guy at Open needs to be fired.

[@quinngroff7084]

Next time I have a customer with poor bb fit ill just explain its no problem and have our on staff engineering, and machining team make a bottom bracket for them for 500$.

[@rolandfrerichs5625]

Or simply measure the hole and help customer with a warranty claim?

[@malcolmcog]

I am not a mechanic, from 1972 I built and fixed bottom brackets, wheel bearings etc. That was what I understood until the 1980s when Swiss bottom brackets (Nadax Favorit) came along with press fitted roller bearings. That was a great BB, I raced it from 1987 to 1989, it never went out of true ! Now my roas bike is a press fit BB30 which is OK, so far

[@NeoPayneHK]

no need to use loctite for the slack?

[@Hambini]

There is no slack once it's been machined

[@NeoPayneHK]

@@Hambini got it. thanks

[@PopEmUpChem]

Would really like to see a Hambini teardown of the Winspace frames, the SLC2.0 in particular. The lick? The shiz or more like Birmingham University?

[@mrwhiteshorts]

Hello Hambini, When you are replacing the 6805N with 6805s, theres 2mm more width of bearing to accommodate. What do you do or remove to accommodate this? Or is this using your own cups? If im using the standard U-T cups, what do i include to get this to work? [i have already removed the seals as you describe]. mark

[@Hambini]

My bottom brackets use their own cups that are designed for 6805's. If you are using SHimano bottom brackets, you will need to use 6805N's or machine a little bit into the plastic cup.

[@mrwhiteshorts]

@@Hambini Thank you for your quick reply. I should have mentioned im using the standard Campag Ultra Torque cups and finding its a tight fit beyond 20nms. So keeping the 6805N's at 6mm wide makes sense. Thanks again :) m

[@robertfontaine3650]

I suppose new bikes must be harder to work on. I used to field strip my 'old'. Mid-80's colnago every season. Excepting the wheels. Mavic GP4s with sealed hubs. It took ten years of crashes before they needed a rebuild and the hubs were still as smooth as the day I got them.

[@drjwbriand]

i can't even imagine not knowing this stuff if you're gonna work on high end bikes (or any others!) .yes hambini is from a different engineering planet, but us mortals are capable of learning enough to at least be competent! i believe the 5 yr old hit the nailon the head with his reply to orlando.

[@felixjackson2670]

Beautifully engineered Bottom Bracket....cannot believe that a shop would bodge fit Press Fit BB. Apart from anything else totally wipes out any warranty. Have used Campy Record Ultra Torque for many years(threaded BB though). No Issues. However it does seem that Bottom Brackets,whichever configuration are prone to problems...used to be stripped threads on steel frames,seized cups always been an issue and now with cheaply made Carbon Frames a whole new set of issues ranging from poor tolerances to poorly designed Aluminium sleeves bonded into Carbon....biggest headache being SO MANY clowns coming up with their own ideas, SIMPLICITY is a concept often overlooked,also that old fashioned idea of ‘Standards’,which doesn’t work in today’s world of ‘profit over people’ mentality of Large Corporations.

[@rolandtiangco8827]

Why not machine the bottom bracket to enable elimination of the wave washer? Assuming to enable a crank swap, should the owner decide to? Or that doing so is a PITA? Also, thoughts on using shims between BB cup and shell to dial in preload (in place of wave washer)?

[@chrisharper2658]

Hambini, are you machining these slightly 'oversized' bottom brackets yourself? Sound like an interesting gig.

[@gavinstone3769]

steel frame , alu frame ,titanium frame ,threaded bb , zero problems unless a five year old has machined the threads of course ;-)

[@PhiyackYuh]

No carbon frame on the list? Why?