So I Tried World Of Warcraft's Season Of Discovery

[@vareion]

Do you want to see more Videos like this? I know it's kind of different from my usual guides but it was a breath of fresh air for me, so let me know what you guys think

[@squarecircleCo]

Yo just made it to 17 myself yesterday after first session. I’ll simply say I’m happy with lvl 1 runes and the discovers delight buff. They will need to add lvl 60 catch up gear if they want phase 7 to be successful.

[@simionpaul3935]

SoD is an alpha for classic plus. They offer runes for ppl to test the game. They said it multiple times it is not classic plus it is a test project. Very good and bold idea, some stuff work well some don t (incursions)

[@GloriousMidas]

I can see them removing this kinda thing for the full classic plus. Yes SoD is basically Classic plus (Lite edition) lol

[@simionpaul3935]

@GloriousMidas ofc they will it s a test realm. Look at the anniversary servers they added dual spec, lfg and they banned gdkp due to sod success which in my opinion is a big W

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

They already tested the runes though. We raid with them since start of molten core, as no new runes have been added since then. they added runes for lvl 1 because it hinders ppl on making alts

[@simionpaul3935]

@fritzschnitzmueller3768 and further testing ofc

[@mr.pledplool272]

Love the Barny'esque editing style, narration and music/sound selection. However with your own touch to it. Good stuff. Entertaining. :)

[@vareion]

Barny is a huge inspiration, glad that someone saw the resemblance. Really appreciate the kind words 🫶🏻

[@grisch4329]

"Nobody wants to run around Azeroth for 4 hours straight..." My brother in christ, this is literally the core of an MMORPG. You run around a world for hours clicking on stuff. THAT is the game. Being overpowered from the start is retail wow and why it's an unsatisfying mess.

[@vareion]

Running around cause u want to is something completely different compared to running around cause u have to

[@grisch4329]

@ Nobody 'has to' do anything in this game. It's a video game. You can walk away from it and your life will be exactly the same. The thing that makes games fun is dopamine. Dopamine is only released when your brain percieves that you achieved something, whether that thing took building a skill or just investing time. If your brain percieves that you DIDN'T invest anything to achieve something, you don't get the dopamine and the thing stops being fun. This is a fundamental concept that for some reason folks don't seem to understand. "Oh man, I don't want to spend all this time grinding for XP..." - Blizzard gives us XP boosts "Oh man, I don't want to spend all this time trying to make gold..." Buys gold "Oh man, I don't want to run around and look for runes.." Bliz makes them insta-buy and now you're a god from thje start and there's no satisfying power progression. Player is happy for a bit and then for some completely unknown reason they start to find the game boring and move on to something else. (Which they then also start to complain about and want people to change...)

[@ecogreco]

I completely agree with you. It's a breath of fresh air to see someone who is a real MMO player.

[@ecogreco]

​​@@vareion all players need to experience the world. If they don't want to or think it's "boring" they can play a Diablo game or any modern "MMORPG".

[@zextthenomad2916]

@@vareionhi, wow veteran here from classic I just wanted to counteract the point of classic vs retail. Classic wow was designed from the start to be a game that you get lost in and wander around the world with little to no guidance. More so it was up to you to figure out wheee these quest objectives were. Meanwhile retail is the more smoothed out theme park ride that shows you where you’re meant to go with little to no curiosity, only quest that are along the path you’re already taking. So, what went wrong in classic? People wanted retail design within classic via addons. More specifically, they wanted ways to track the fastest and most optimized way to progress their character to 60. So what ends up happening is that the illusion of the journey is cut short. You already know where to go now, and your mind set is already trying to figure out the fastest way to get there. Personally I enjoy both versions of the game. But I’d be lying if I said that I didn’t notice the slow slog of running around on my second time playing.

[@aardvarkscanfly]

This video is waaay funnier than I expected. Make more videos!

[@ypsipuepsi]

after quitting in p3, when fresh launched I also wanted to checkout SoD. Leveled my 50 Warri to 60 in no time with daily quests and got all the 60 runes with some help from old gildies. Especially the Silithus Bossfight was really fun and challenging (to a pleb like me). However I found no group for Ony-Pre because everyone had it and no twinks needed it. With much effort I finally found a nice group Emperor-Run-Group to help me with the first half of the quest... I also felt obligated to continue doing the Searing Gorge dailys to catch up in gold because it's so "easy" but never ever has WoW felt that much like work or a job. It was the least fun I had in a while playing this game. Dailies are supposed to be casual but to me it's quite the opposite. Casual is logging in and doing what I want, whenever I want. Dailies trigger fomo and stuff and I really missed leveling in Un'Goro one of my favourite classic zones.. because "time wasted" when you can do one level in 30min with dailies. So for me I went and tried HC-Server and it's perfect (for me). No second feels wasted. Even if you die, you have been there for the journey and leveling is no chore to get to the endgame but it is the game. However I think raiding in SoD is really cool and I like the change with the 1c runes to make it easier to start raiding in SoD. And even though I loved the tedious rune-quests they just don't fit with the daily-quest+150%xp-buff and rush to end game philosophy. So this change is consequent. I hope they also get rid of the attunement quests for newbies to really make it easy access for returning or new players. Then again I hope leveling in SoD2 or Classic+ will feel more like HC with more content and not like WotLK or SoD where dailies/incursions "force" you to play the game one way (ofc you could just not do them but the incentives in terms of xp/gold/hr make you feel wasting time ... then you end up wondering "why play in the first place" and start having fun in HC lol). That's my recent story with SoD but I like yours better and look forward on the next part of your story.

[@_kostant]

Agreed. The addition of new currencies to get stuff and daily quests makes SoD feel like WotLK pre-patch era WoW. Farming reputations, not currencies, is more “fun”. It’s a clear end goal. Looking forward to a Classic+ with just some QoL such as making classes scale up to warrior damage at end game. PvP doesn’t need to be balanced in classic, but equally end-gamed geared classes shouldn’t one shot each other consistently. But if you’re in AQ gear it’s fine to kill a fresh 60 without them being capable of fighting back… The leveling in HC is what actually is fun. Even the leveling in SoD is fun. But hitting 60 a month after the main rush of players shouldn’t prevent you from getting into starter raids. I think some things should be like opening the gates of AQ. Once enough have done it, everyone else should get it automatically

[@Williaem00]

a lot of what you are saying above is similar to retail (war within). The reason why so many people continuously go back to classic is because it feels like an adventure, the world feels big and meaningful, and ALL enemies are actually challenging. I gave up SOD during S3 and I don't think I can go back. Blizz also has the issue of to many versions of WoW running at the same time. It'd be better if all millions of players were playing the same game.....................

[@peaches7487]

such a well made video man! looking forward to more

[@R3ar3ntry]

as horde/ alliance what is the best servers for each faction? i am returning amd i was on Crusader strike (the server is the RP PVP server) it's also DEAD a.f

[@vareion]

Living flame on EU if u want pvp (factions are pretty balanced) Wild growth EU for alliance pve. There is unfortunately no server for horde pve

[@gianlucacascone87]

Continue on SOD pls! And can you please explain the incursion ?

[@feywinterfox9630]

I am SO CONFUSED! What happened when you tried to equip the act you bought after the whole thing with the sword??? I thought maybe you accidentally deleted it, but looking back that isn't what happened...I don't think?

[@vareion]

I deleted it cause i missed the yes button by a lil bit

[@feywinterfox9630]

@ 😓 here to hoping you got a sweet 2hander in part 2!🙏

[@Radric33]

SOD is for classic players that want to get to endgame and raid/pvp as quick as possible. I really like SoD it's more fun in my opinion to be able to dish out tons of damage and have a more complicated rotation so you don't bore yourself to death raiding. I will say though classic Warrior does feel better to play in OG than it does in SOD, but every other class feels amazing to play.

[@LukyLucaz]

Was it actually possible to get to that level in 6 hours? Or is this a compilation of multiple days of gameplay?

[@vareion]

I had a playtime of roughly 6-7hrs at lv 28 so its definetly possible

[@Guccibear100]

I love SoD, I hope we can transfer our characters when its done

[@kalejarmar3187]

0:21 I did it ... many months ago . not really a challenge if you just pick them by leveling , I dont remember it as a chore

[@_kostant]

It’s a chore to return and get ones no one is farming for anymore. Otherwise I agree.

[@DamnDuff]

Why would they release this during a classic fresh launch 😂

[@GrandmasterHobbyist]

but when are we going to find out what happens to SoD characters later...thats the only thing that matters fr..

[@keblin86]

Making me want to play, I loved P1 of SoD but I am so far behind now that I didn't wanna come back but all runes without the travelling sounds amazing! Now if they could give us mounts earlier it would be perfect lol

[@GloriousMidas]

It's still worth it coming back. P1 boomer too. Just enjoy the exploration and the fast lvl speed!

[@Seegurken]

Why should it ever be too Late and how you can Fall behind?

[@keblin86]

@@Seegurken Always exciting when everyones at the same point! I tried to come back in P3 and really didn't feel it this time lol. Incursions felt a bit meh and honestly I couldn't be bothered to play it then but maybe now as it has been a while. The slow movement speed was doing my head in the most! Though I think I am only 6 lvls from mount so that would get a bit better. I think I stopped around lvl 34

[@potenviking]

Your first argument and no. It's not no one. I liked a power being gated around exploration. So idk wtf you are talking about.

[@mats0o350]

Someone is a Gaki no Tsukai fan.

[@soccergang3169]

I wish they wouldn't of used the word "season". They made it seem like it would be 3-4 month actual seasons like they have in diablo or other games when at the end of the season, the server resets and we go again. It wasn't so I dont get the point. I guess it's just to much for them to develop.

[@maxnits9556]

Wtf is a rune?

[@carrot4759]

good video. dont take the bitter classic era players too seriously

[@EvilGoatBoy]

SoD is garbage. That's an objective fucking fact.

[@vareion]

Nah, I know exactly what these Classic boomers look like behind their screens

[@krauz111]

yeah seep is good

[@King_9893]

🔥🔥🔥

[@AkuOkeSipJozsh]

Yeah i love this update almost 1 hit everything at level 1 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ecogreco]

And you don't find anything wrong with that???

[@AkuOkeSipJozsh]

@ecogreco yeah thats so wrong I playing hc and era But become overpower at low level is fun 😁😁 For refreshing is not bad

[@ecogreco]

@@AkuOkeSipJozsh we have retail and now Cataclysm classic of you want to be overpowered. Real vanilla classic should be more slow paced.

[@ManneV]

Sod is Sod Its not supposed to be ''real vanilla classic''. If you want classic then play that. you don't need to hate on something that clearly isn't trying to be classic. so the correct statement is ''we have retail, Cataclysm classic and now SoD if you want to be overpowered.''

[@ecogreco]

@@ManneV no you are wrong. Season of Discovery is supposed to be vanilla just with extra abilities and content. This includes challenging outdoor content, traveling is required, nothing is trivialized, no rushing content, and players are not overpowered. Yes we have era and anniversary, but SoD should be ours as well.

[@ecogreco]

This new change is messed up beyond belief. The whole point of Season of Discovery was for players to explore the world. It wasn't meant for players to rush to 60 and gear up for raids. Instead it was all about exploring parts of the world that didn't exist in vanilla, but I this change ruined everything.

[@ManneV]

its showing that the exploration has come to an end so is probably SOD too

[@Alejandro_87]

You picked the absolute worst class to level 😂 the runes used for leveling warrior are so weak and underwhelming compared every other class. They are good at PvE content don't get me wrong but just don't play on a PvP server because you're a punching bag for every enemy player you encounter. The first warrior rune you would unlock, Victory Rush, used to only heal for 15% instead of 30% and this was for 3 phases. while classes like priest and warlock got Penance and Haunt

[@vareion]

Trust me, i now know that… i entered STV today and ye

[@Alejandro_87]

​@@vareionstart a shaman, overpowered as hell. Runes are super loaded and you can tank, or dps better than warrior AND cast heals

[@vareion]

Would be weird if i just restarted the series now so i‘m just gonna bite the bullet and try and get to 60 without losing my mind

[@andyramirez4293]

@@vareionhonestly man warrior is always just a punching bag for all of classic it’s always been like that so it’s whatever warrior is fun plus at 60 it’s great don’t listen to these bozos and just enjoy your time

[@melski9205]

from what i can tell its just more raids, and no classic

[@MarkSharples-e7g]

Made SoD more of a joke if anything.

[@ShiyoKozuki]

Being overpowered at the beginning isn't fun. The last thing vanilla WoW needs is to be easier. Your video is literally just retail WoW gameplay...why even play "vanilla"?

[@tnshanobighost6749]

It is though lol

[@vareion]

SoD isn‘t Vanilla, never has been

[@ghozter1]

Man these comment section really triggered me tonight, most of y'all are strictly Classic Era players or haven't tried Retail in 10+ years. Because coming from someone that actually plays all versions of the game I can safely tell you that SoD plays nothing like Retail. Not even the combat, it's more like Wrath or Cata. Absolutely not modern Retail.

[@ez6791]

​@@ghozter1this. It's insane. Vanilla inspiration felt closer to foundation, classes are basically wrathish now with some twists like exodin. Leveling speed for seasonal nature and gold increase is kind of meh. Level up raids are meh. New raids and difficulties and tier sets for all roles looking decent but what we need to see is SM raid and new dungeons, probably catch up gear dungeon. It's nothing like retail. One thing is true though the balance for pvp is terrible and there's some homogenization but classes still have their flavor but less of their iconic weaknesses.

[@evasion.6096]

Definatly not classic +. And everyone is atill obsessed with logs and parses. Project epoch will be the real classic +

[@vareion]

SoD is definetly not Classic+ but went to the right direction. Heard Turtle WoW is doing a good job creating a Classic+ environment

[@ghozter1]

That's not true, most people don't even care about your gear/parses if you're just starting out only the "tryhard" guilds which you can just join a midcore guild and be fine. Only 40yo's care about parses in classic, I avg. parse 93+ on retail. I couldn't care less about parsing well on 20+ year old content.

[@GloriousMidas]

It is classic plus. Just lite edition. Try playing the game in full and doing the rune quests etc. You will begin to see the small details that add on to the world on vanilla wow.

[@GloriousMidas]

​@@ghozter1yeah majority of the endgame stuff ain't parses anymore. More casual than ever

[@animealumni2601]

That's a reason to quit SoD, not a reason to pick it up again. What's the point of runes if they just give them away? That's dumb af. Retail babies wanna whine and cry because they have to earn rewards

[@Draux.]

Cause 90% of people are not doing old content, some rune are behind group quests and nobody want to do them. Some rune take on the average 4-5 hours to grind unless you are really lucky.

[@ghozter1]

Very few Retail players play classic, even if it's SoD. And people suggested this because some of the runes were extremely boring and time consuming to get when it was really old content and like @Draux. said. Some runes required other people, sure that was cool when each rune released but after more than half a year no one is getting those runes meaning it's really hard (for absolutely no reason) to get them. Them giving away the runes at level 1 means that returning, new and even old SoD players would create more characters. It was a smart move by Blizzard, now you see low levels leveling again and even doing BFD, Gnome more than people were doing prior to the patch. And the only one whining and crying about anything is you, I bet you don't even play SoD.

[@esaualfaro3447]

Remember this is supposed to be a seasonal server. Many of the older runes are gated through extensive and complex quests that sadly requires grouping. It was cool to collect these rare runes at the moment with all the people grouping with you, but with time you're left alone and making it way more complicated to collect them all.

[@carrot4759]

i dare you to try to get any of the dark rider runes with no one around to help you lol

[@joelbartor]

Exactly lmao

[@Duffikus]

I like turtles

[@NartrachGaming]

🐢 is best but SoD is good too