😲So Much for .380 ACP and .38 Special Being Comparable! Underwood XTP Ammo

[@upperroomtoo]

Bro, you put three of those 380's into an inch on that target at 40 yards! Your skills are growing.

[@elsullo2]

He is already supernatural sometimes!..........................elsullo

[@nd4spdbh]

Underwood does a dang good job. Shot some hard cast Keith 38 spcl +p and WOAH talk about a powerful round.

[@M7A1bayonet]

The Underwood 380 plus P 100 grain hardcast load is insanely powerful too

[@alexandermfernandez9283]

I own a few dozen handguns in just about every caliber , and bought a lot of Underwood ammunition a few years ago when ammo was scarce . Since my friend owns a chronograph , I can say that their (Underwood) revolver ammo almost never achieves the rated velocities printed on the box . So , I'm quite impressed with the 125gr. 38special +P load you tested , it was right there in both velocity & performance . Great video and commentary !

[@alexandermfernandez9283]

@Peter Angles No , I don't , and what's the relevance to your question ? As far as I know Underwood doesn't even manufacture rounds for those cartridges .

[@donnajacobs7572]

​@Peter Angles ❤😊😊

[@alexandermfernandez9283]

@Peter Angles Yeah , well read the whole thing , and what's your damage dude ?

[@Gieszkanne]

Underwood touching .357 Mag level with their .38 +p. 1213 fps with 125gr from a 3 inch barrel is something you get with low end .357 mag.

[@michaelgibbs3011]

The Underwood rivals Golden Sabers.

[@talon2pro]

Great comparison as usual SAM!

[@brianmoore1164]

I like the 38 spl +P in my J frame 357. With 357 the recoil is harsh, but the +P is manageable while still giving good performance.

[@MDformernavalperson]

Well done! You made a number of very pertinent points. First of significance re. the 38 spcl, is that one has to be competent in DA shooting. Given that, I was a bit surprised at the obvious recoil in the non-airweight revolver. I believe you are correct that people who choose the 380 wish to reduce recoil to benefit repeat shot, to reduce handgun size, or - preferably - both. There are midsized double stack 380's about the weight of your revolver that provide reduced recoil and also double the capacity. That is a consideration.

[@skiphinson8620]

Great video! I’m loving that Underwood .38 special +P 125 grain in my 2inch 856. Shoots like a lazer. 25 yard pop cans are a breeze. I’m a long time .357 guy but this 856 and the Underwood ammo combo really has my attention.

[@whippy107]

Hey, I really love your channel! I'd like to see the most powerful .38 special round you have tested compared to the weakest .357 magnum round you have tested. I think that would be really interesting.

[@g-pawmikey5508]

I wouldn't care to be on the business end of either! Appreciate the honest opinions and matter of fact approach.

[@Narsuitus]

Thanks for the comparison video. When I inherited my grandfather’s Smith & Wesson 38 special 5-inch revolver, I expected it to perform like my 5-inch 9mm pistol. However, I was surprised that it performed more like my wife’s 4-inch 380acp pistol. Your comparative test yields similar results to mine.

[@clintmanning9364]

Need +p 380

[@faryldaryl3975]

While the Underwood ammo here is nice & toasty, modern +P from most manufacturers is what was considered regular ol' walkin' down the street ammo back in the day, and regular loadings are considerably less. Combine that with the lesser development that most makers give to revo rounds, as mentioned here, and ending up with .38 Spl coming in closer to .380 than 9x19 is not unexpected.

[@ronolson2024]

P.S. Love your ramblings. Always something to consider & learn.

[@carlosmorris4510]

I agree with shooting primarily in DA - as that's what you'll be doing in a defensive situation anyway... Plus, it's quicker and more natural - making you a better shooter.

[@johnnyadams1755]

I agree to a point, anything within 25 yards should be shot double action for defensive training but anything beyond 25 yards should be single action if you have a choice. Single action you increase accuracy and there is a lawyer tied to every bullet you shoot. That's my opinion and how law enforcement was trained when they used revolvers.

[@elsullo2]

Many shooters have not had opportunity to shoot a really GOOD revolver in double action: they CAN be slicker than snot and easy to shoot well in double action.............................elsullo

[@brockhowell2296]

That's quite a hot 38 +p round, looks like it'd certainly do the trick!

[@jw-sigp2258]

My wife uses underwood 380 in her 3” Kahr but uses +p load for 90 grain at advertised 1200 fps. For a 38 special that was insane performance by the way. Id use it. Good stuff

[@jeffreylocke8808]

The Ruger full size .380 EZ interests me a lot.

[@antoniotula262]

Ruger Security Six 380?

[@randycchavez]

Can vouch that that 38spl is one snappy round. Not the best performing load I've seen but not the worst either. Just a decent performing load it looks like... Once again great work, Sam. 👍

[@OOICU812]

I really like your video presentations. Thank you for your service.

[@bobcatforever3485]

Thanks another good comparison. As always thanks for sharing, and good shooting. Take care.

[@stephenwilliams9440]

Boy those are hot 38 special loads. Those are comparable to some softer 357 mag loads.

[@ronolson2024]

I didn't know until your videos that 38 Special +P has a variety of loads ranging from way under 9 mm to more than 9 mm being close to .357 Magnum (as seen in this video). I've been shooting for about 5 years now & would like to buy a 357 Magnum revolver. Problem being I'm such a cheapskate that I don't want to pay the added cost of a good revolver and especially the much higher costs of ammo. I don't even shoot my 380 LCP2 because of the ammo cost. Since I like to shoot a lot, that only leaves the much cheaper 9 mm & 22LR to shoot. So I will resolve this problem by watching more of your excellent videos!

[@rob6850]

There's always the Taurus 605...

[@elsullo2]

If you mean a short barrel snubby revolver the cheaper .38 special +P is better anyway! It is really hard to shoot .357 from a snubby well, and much of the powder burns OUTSIDE of the barrel in a huge fireball giving little extra performance to the bullet!.............................elsullo

[@zachb.6606]

Interesting results, thanks for sharing!

[@willo7734]

I agree with you, Underwood does make probably the best 38 special round. These days whenever I carry my Ruger LCR 357 I’ll put Underwood or maybe Gold dot in it.

[@ElainesDomain]

Thanks Sam. I agree with your single action verses double action revolver thoughts. Double action refines skill while single action less so.

[@Daekar3]

Even standard pressure 38spl with a 158gr can be pretty snappy from a little gun. It's not heavy on energy compared to things like 9mm and others, but that heavy bullet seems to be pretty effective. I wouldn't hesitate to carry 38spl wadcutter loads though, so take that for what it's worth. The 380acp is a fine round unless you're trying to shoot through a windshield or something.

[@The_Hi_Life]

Dang! Those 38s got some horsepower! That’s what a full load 38 special should be👍

[@powdermonkey5183]

why not then just go 357????

[@silenceismycanvas]

I clocked that 38spl +p underwood load last weekend out of my m66-5 / 4" barrel, at 1220fps average. Same chrono you use.

[@GunSam]

I have noticed that most .38+P ammo in my 3" revolver is about as fast in my 4" revolver. I think that in .38+P after 4" you start losing velocity from drag, so 3" is about the max barrel you really need. Obviously .357 Mag gains and gain al the way up to 16".

[@silenceismycanvas]

@@GunSam I always wanted a m-66 3". Actually I think, 18.5" barrel is peak velocity gain from 38/357 caliber. Love my 1894c.

[@stevieweebee]

For some reason to me it seems like the rounds traveled further than what you're saying it might just be the camera angle,not bad for a .380acp makes me feel more comfortable carrying mine.

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

With the complaints about the comparisons not being fair, you should consider a comparison of a North American Arms mini revolver in .22 Long Rifle versus a Magnum Research BFR in .45-70. It's perfectly fair. They're both single action revolvers, and firing rifle rounds.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Not too bad with either/both. Very good opinion on double action. Thank you.

[@jamesdietz6899]

Good info. Your view on DA v SA shooting was especially good. I need to try shooting with the middle part of my finger, which is what it appears you do. I tend to use the pad of the tip of my finger. I will see today if trying your technique works for me.

[@markscott9179]

Very informative video! Well done, thank you!

[@GunSam]

Thanks!

[@louishuelsman6698]

Good thinking with the single shot vs double action!!!

[@GunsmithSid]

I do like double action as I’m constantly correcting the sight as I’m pulling through on the trigger. My double taps on IDPA targets are snake eyes vs. a pair of single action shots. Might seem counterintuitive, but those are my results…

[@professorpewpuew]

I tried some Underwood standard and +P loads with my LCP (shorter barrel than your EZ). Fairly brutal and both either went through 21 inches of gelatin completely or close. No expansion. With the .380, that longer barrel you have is going to be key, but it probably isn't what most are using.

[@GunSam]

I will have to try them. I tried BB+P once in the LCP and it didn't blow up, so the EZ should be fine

[@Gieszkanne]

380 +p is kind of pointless. Lower recoil is the main reason for .380. If you think you need more just buy a 9mm.

[@Gieszkanne]

@@wastool The LCP is small but you could find equal small 9mm Like the Kahr PM9. The most who go for .380 are wanting less recoil.

[@GunSam]

@@Gieszkanne I think it's a niche thing, same as the .38 Special load here where one might say, just get a .357 Magnum. There's a possibility that someone owns just one gun like a .380 Shield EZ or Glock 42 because the .380 is the right caliber for them, but maybe they need to have a little extra for that pistol for whatever reason. In ballistics terms, a .380 ACP is generally always a lighter, lower sectional density bullet with a flatter nose so I would think in a lot of regards, a hot .380 ACP could perform better than a low end 9mm at specific tasks.

[@JJ_SDWR]

​@@Gieszkanne the same could be said for literally every other caliber. "Why carry a 9mm +P round when you can carry standard pressure 40cal?" Why carry 40 when you can carry 10mm? Why stop at 10mm if you're concerned about power, carry a 44 Magnum like Dirty Harry, and so on and so forth.

[@tedcollins4684]

Nicely done, it seemed you were hesitant to give it to the .380 which I carry. Either would be fine. Thanks!

[@SpartacusColo]

I tried some of that Underwood 158gr +P hard cast lead flat nose through my Ruger LCRx 3" - it freaking hurt! I shot maybe 2-3 rounds and let my buddy finish off the cylinder: I didn't want to shoot it anymore. I have Remington 125 +P HTP semi-jacket HP and my hand handles it fine. The Underwood stuff was truly painful. Even up to my elbow I could feel the extreme shock: hot stuff!

[@jimchambers7548]

My 38 is a S&W 442, I agree you should shoot double action because in a self defense situation you won't have time to cock the hammer. Great video and revolver shooting tips👍👍

[@philipfreeman72]

Good test , revolvers rule .

[@robaldridge6505]

I'm currently carrying Underwood 158 SWC +P in my M85, and Hornady Critical Duty 135 in my SCCY 9mm..

[@won8135]

Yeah, that underwood 38 special +p has a lot of recoil. I shot it out of a snubby and thought It was a mistake, felt like a 357 loading. Very surprising.

[@powdermonkey5183]

If so stout then why not just go 357??

[@won8135]

@Powder Monkey It's a strange round. It kicks abnormally hard for what it is. Tests have shown It does about 1050 from a snub with expansion. Then this, 1200+ from a 3", no expansion. I don't know anything now.

[@guysmith8662]

For Hornady Critical Defense 90gr 380 my Charter Arms 380 revolver with a 3 inch barrel has just about 219 ft-lbs Muzzle energy. For Hornady Critical Defense 110gr 38SP +P, my S&W 637 revolver with a 1.875" revolver has just about 225 ft-lbs Muzzle energy. So under this (perhaps unfair) scenario, the rounds are quite comparable.

[@Cruiser777]

So I guess we can shoot the 38 +p instead of 357. But I still can not find those rounds. The four gun Shops in my town don't even have them. Good video Like always.

[@kirkboswell2575]

Agree with your assessments. And I really like Underwood ammo. Good performance, good value, and more cost effective than many other performance ammo. Those misses you didn't see were to the right of the target, trending low.

[@GunSam]

No, they were high and left. The downrange camera is not correct in how it's shown. Like if you look at the steel target, it's head is at tall as the top of the hill right? Now look at it in the main camera view and you will see it's 30 feet from the top of the hill. When I was going for a head shot you saw those few hit in the same spot on the steel, the misses were just above that, left and high. But the camera picks it up right and low because it is picking it up from under the target, not as high as the target. Wish I could have it level but I cannot or I would shoot the camera.

[@kirkboswell2575]

@@GunSam - I'll take your word on that. Camera angles and their effects aren't something I know about. 👍

[@GunSam]

@@kirkboswell2575 Made this for my Patreon members. This doesn't show a change in windage because it was too far to the right to have the camera pick it up to the left, but you get the idea. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXrGiZ14hL2Bp6M

[@kirkboswell2575]

@@GunSam - Thanks! 👍

[@stephenkenny7661]

Your tests are good! Very fair! And yes it's not a competition!!k question is what is a particular person going to buy...posses..or Carry's?...I do love revolvers though!!!!

[@erolkavlakverizon6112]

I would pick either one. But if my .45 acp or 9mm was within reach. Those win. Now place my .357 mag. On the table. And. That wins..

[@J.R.F.23]

Gotta love 357 magnums 🤠

[@theone031]

Do you have any blued revolvers? I have a sweet spot for blue and wood.

[@johnkellmer5133]

Got a question about woods carry down here in Okla. where we have feral dogs and pigs a plenty. Would WWB 95 GR fmj work as well as Underwood 100gr hardcast? That is, in my .380 EZ. Std pressure for both.

[@GunSam]

Filmed 4/7/23

[@dylanunderpar]

10:57-11:02 Amen! I shoot my Colt King Cobra double action and it’s much more accurate for me & many others who have tried it both ways!

[@nickliberto6583]

Carry a .380 with a barrel slightly less than 4" As the gentleman said, it wasn't a competition. I feel my weapon is adequate and if it performs as it should, 3 or 4 rounds should be more than adequate for anything less than a bear. I understand that small is great for concealed, but the 2" barrel shortens the fps velocity significantly. If you're not happy or guessing, spend some time with a qualified instructor to fully understand what you're relying on.

[@johnmetz1158]

Can't believe someone would think 380 could compete with 38

[@cdlund2840]

I agree, I never shoot my revolvers single action even at 50 yards. You must learn a proper DA trigger stroke for self defense.

[@AeolusIICB]

I’d like to see that repeated with the FTX bullet. That thing seems to expand in anything! I’ve got that +P .38 in my M&P Bodyguard and it stings! 😂

[@Paladin1873]

In defensive shooting I always emphasize DA for revolvers because SA requires you to fire of else ease the hammer down on a live round. Once you've lowered the hammer you have deprived yourself of that cartridge unless you cycle through every other chamber or open the cylinder and reset it. Neither action is practical under duress.

[@porkchopspapi5757]

Great advice colonel. Who the he'll is going to fire a double action revolver in single fire under duress?

[@Paladin1873]

@@porkchopspapi5757 Good question. It's possible a precision aimed shot may be attempted at long range or when the perp has a hostage, but as Gun Sam has repeatedly shown, this too can be accomplished double-action if one practices enough and develops the proper rhythm and timing.

[@richavic4520]

With the.38, you mentioned a different finger placement on the trigger between single and double action. I became certified as a timer by the AAU back in the day of wind-up stopwatches. For accuracy, the start/stop technique is to put the crown of the watch under the first joint of your finger where there's less padding, and then take up the small amount of vertical slack in the mechanism. You can parallel that motion to a trigger and primary/secondary travel. My question is why change finger placement on a trigger?

[@GunSam]

I only use my first joint on all handguns. Most semi auto users use their pad of the finger. I guess I am not understanding the specific of your question to me.

[@M7A1bayonet]

If you compare the Underwood 380 plus P to big 3 company 125 gr 38 plus P they are comparable. But if you compare 38p+P to Underwood 38 plus p it's not close.

[@Fudmottin]

That Underwood 38Spl+P load seems to be more of a light magnum. I think I would carry it.

[@GunSam]

Yes. However I would say more efficient in some regards. Normally I say that the opposite is true, that high pressure low charge weights are more efficient, but the Underwood would obviously have to be low pressure and high powder charge, but the way it burns is spectacular. I have no idea the powder used but it's doing well.

[@Fudmottin]

@@GunSam I don't think that ammo is actually in SAAMI limits. That said, the 357 Magnum, as you know, was created by overcharging 38Spl loads. Ideally the powder should fill the available case volume for consistent ignition and burn. There is a reason why I have some 38 Short Colt and 38 Long Colt brass on hand. It's to reduce cases volume for lower charge loads. That of course will raise the chamber pressure. But I only use them in 357 Magnum anyway.

[@richki.24]

Yay for 380acp !!!!!!

[@fishingwithcolton]

Have you tried Underwood maximum expansion? They just stopped the production of their 125 grain bjhp gold dots and I'm considering on waiting until they produce their maximum expansion in plus p before I carry it.. Tools and targets has a good video on it but penetration was a bit shallow

[@quantumsneak1773]

Any fish in that pond ? Can look with camera ?

[@quantumsneak1773]

PS, that end vid outro compilation was awesome. Could watch hours of that. Cheers from UK

[@allenbolen9705]

Hell look at the difference in the cartridges! The 38 is way longer and generally bigger!

[@Hwypatrol2]

Do you recommend Underwood ammo for older 80’s SW J frame revolver?

[@M7A1bayonet]

I would agree that this is not a fair test

[@celowski6296]

I may have missed a vid where you did this. But you ever do or thought of doing a comparison vid between shooting into gel vs. water jugs for results?

[@c.miller3802]

XTPs always need speed to expand. They are a tougher harder bullet that expands less than a lot of hp bullets do today. They make a very good deer bullet if you can get the speed . Out of a .357 at 1400-1600 fps they are very very good deer bullets

[@sethbaughman203]

What 38sp round do you actually carry in that 3” 856? I just got mine and was wondering your optimum choice…

[@russelsellick316]

I never considered 380 as being as good as 38 Spl on the other hand I have met people using round nose lead 38 Spl. The only reason I'd do that is shoot it and get the brass! One ignoramus brought me his 38 and said the barrel is smoothbore! He was half right, there was enough lead in there to fill the rifling up!

[@danoneill2846]

I wouldn't want to use that 38 ammo in a light weight revolver

[@PC-vq5ud]

Soak your MDF in water for 4 or 5 hours for a closer effect to what bone would produce.

[@danamorrow5352]

I have this ammo loaded in my J-frame. Have you tested this in a snubbie? I can''t remember seeing a video for it but there are so many.

[@DanTheWolfman]

I wonder which .380 JHPs will expand through MDF? GOLDEN SABER or maybe hydrashok? There is a new .380 w LONG barrel that interests me IF can really get jhp expansion

[@GunSam]

HST does, it's not uniform but it does expand in my MDF tests to .514". I haven't released that video yet.

[@joeyphillips1181]

Bro in the Chrono test you put like 3 of those rounds in the same hole lol

[@paulscountry456]

Shoot a couple hundred of those out of that Taurus and see if it can hold up...

[@johnochicago8457]

Thanks, Sam. One thing I don't understand about Underwood and other brands as well. I have semi-wadcutters that state on the box 1000fps and are classified by the mfg as standard pressure. I also have semi-wadcutter hollow points that state 1000 on the box and they are rated as plus p. How is that possible. Also, Underwood seems to lower or raise the fps so trying to buy the same round is getting difficult. I know they are all rated on the box for 4" revolvers so two inch I would expect at 100fps lower. Thoughts??

[@GunSam]

+P is nothing more than pressure designation. In order for all things to be equal in terms of velocity always being higher with +P, than all gunpowder would have to be the exact same. There are hundreds of varieties of gunpowder out there, they all have different attributes like burn rate. You could have a powder that gives high velocity with low pressure, or have one that gives low velocity with high pressure. If you were to take lets say 158 gr SWC VS SWC-HP that were identical brand, same velocity rating and one was a +P, it could also be the same powder and powder charge but the HP is seated deeper, thus increasing pressure as the hollow cavity length has to go somewhere. Sometimes manufacturers will develop a load that does what they want, then pressure test it later and if it happens to go over pressure, they just list it as +P. Like .38 Special maxes out at 17,000 PSI, and +P maxes at 20,000 PSI. A load might be developed, then they pressure test it and it's 17,030 PSI or whatever, while it is essentially a standard pressure power, they have to label it as +P. OR you might get great powders loaded at 16,999 PSI and junk powders loaded at 17,001 PSI, essentially the same pressure but the +P will perform worse than the standard pressure.

[@JJ_SDWR]

Good video Sam. I'm sure you're already aware, but Underwood also loads the Hornady XTP to a "+P" energy at 1200fps. I carry that in my Bersa Thunder. I'm guessing you'd probably give up slight penetration & get much better XTP expansion. (Before some dude with a pocket protector & scotch taped glasses comments saying there is no such thing as SAAMI rated +P in 380 loads, I KNOW, but that's what Underwood calls it, and since they have two identical loads with one being higher pressure, I think calling it "+P" is fair & makes sense.

[@nunyabitnezz2802]

It always seems like the more barriers you put in place the more penetration you get. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@usualsuspect5173]

Have you done anything with 32acp?

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊

[@danielaramburo7648]

If I had the money, I would buy you a 50 BMG rifle so you test it on your gel.

[@patrickhenry236]

Weak revolver rounds? Did I hear you mis-speaking comparing to revolver ammo from underwood? I have 158gr 357 from them rated at 1500fps. Their 44mag 240gr is rated above 1400fps, and 210gr 41mag that I have clocks in around 1500 as well....

[@GunSam]

In terms of .38 Special ammo, Underwood is as good as Buffalo Bore. So is most of their semi auto ammo. But their .357 Mag and .44 Mag is weak compared to Buffalo Bore. Like both make a 125 gr .357 Mag JHP, in my 4" 686 the Underwood one gives 1,450 FPS but the Buffalo Bore does about 1,650 FPS on average. The .44 Mag is the same way.

[@patrickhenry236]

@@GunSam OK, that is a bit interesting. Which bullet was it if I might ask? The other factor is that might be a quirk with your firearm. I have used Buffalo bore rifle ammo, but for handguns have experience with underwood and double tap, though with 357 I have avoided 125gr ammo and opt for 158's. Thank you for clarifying your statement was not that the ammo was weak, just possibly not performing similar to other brands in the high power market(let's be honest the major manufacturers have downloaded everything significantly already). Next time I have access to a chronograph, I'll do a little testing with my own ammo.

[@jeffcross71]

So if you would use 38 standard pressure would the 38 win?

[@GunSam]

I guess I don't know what you mean as win. Win what?

[@nickshowsstuff435]

Just ordered some over the weekend for my dad since they had a sale. $10.79 a box. The item number is 151 it doesn’t list what bullet they actually use if anyone knows what it is?

[@hobarttobor686]

who has a 6 inch barrel .380 acp?

[@3Pillers]

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[@TheLoneRanger745]

Your getting hits at forty but a few wild misses , not sure why, we know you're a great shot.(not related but something to share) "Tactical Hive" Guy's do some drills on shrinking distance moving closer as your shooting too increase the odds of good hits , the key is short stepping to reduce bounce in your gate . I like your testing of different caliber in jell, penetrations, those 38+P were hot ! The 380 did very good at +12".

[@GunSam]

I wouldn't call them wild misses. If you look at the regular camera angle, the steel is 30 feet from the top of the hill. Downrange camera, top of hill is as low as steel. What that means is that misses that are 1" off the target, can look 5 feet to the left or right. No joke. It's that much skewed from stretching on Gopro's part as well as angle with camera below target. Like at 8:55, if you can zoom in my cropped section, the bullet misses a head shot by a couple inches high, only problem was elevation as windage was perfect. Yet the downrange camera shows a miss a couple feet to the right and low, yet it was high and centered.

[@steve586586]

Who thinks .380 acp would be comparable to .38+p, especially w/underwood ammo? Maybe 9mm vs. .38+p.

[@GunSam]

The people who used to troll me that .380 ACP is more powerful than .38 Special and superior in every way. Sometimes people think the things I say are made up, but I assure you, someone has said something like ".380 ACP is WAY more powerful than .38 Special" to me on my channel, dozens of times. I have also gotten "9mm+P is just as powerful as .357 Magnum" about 1,000 times.

[@daleweller5193]

A lot of 380s are not rated for +p.

[@joep8787]

I have a 9mm revolver that holds 5 rounds. I have a 9mm pistol that holds 7+1 rounds. Both guns can be pocket carried. The revolver is a little heavier, but has far more felt recoil and the trigger pull is about three times as heavy as that of the pistol. And of course, it's better to have 8 rounds than 5 rounds. It's easier to load a spare magazine into a pistol than to load a 5 round moon clip into a revolver. The only advantage to a revolver is that you don't leave spent shells laying around to spoil the environment and increase climate change. Those are the reasons I never use my revolver as my edc. Of course, someone will say a revolver is more reliable than a pistol. I call BS on that. I clean and lube pistol after every 100 rounds (you should do that with any firearm) and I never, ever have had any problems with that pistol, even with remanufactured ammo. Yes, there are pistols that are unreliable. I own a Remington R51 which I will never sell because I have too much character and love for my fellow man to do that. .380 v 38 special? Yes, I believe the ballistics are better with a 38 special. However, I have a Sig p365 in 380 which has all the good qualities of my 9mm pistol and one extra quality which neither the pistol nor the revolver have. The 380 has low recoil and a short, light trigger pull with an even shorter reset. I can put 3 rounds on target at a longer distance with my 380 in the same time frame that someone with a 38+p revolver is still getting his sights lined up after the first shot. I'd say 3 from a 380 is preferable to one from a 38+p.

[@GunSam]

As someone who shoots a lot of different platforms not with the FMJ ammo people often use, but with actual defensive hollowpoints like I do in all my videos, I can say 1,000% that semi autos JAM and the jam often. I have NEVER ever, ever had a revolver jam. And this is 15 years of shooting every week with both platforms. I call BS on YOU

[@cgsimons1187]

​@@GunSam A friend of mine who introduced me to shooting allowed me to fire a cheap semi-auto pistol and a used revolver he picked up at a pawn shop. I'll always remember how that revolver was the gun that went bang every time I pulled the trigger. The semi-auto would suffer FTF and FTE on occasion. The revolver gained a lasting respect from me. I also took it as a lesson to avoid really cheap semi-auto pistols and to test new ammo in them before feeling comfortable keeping them loaded in the gun.

[@DinoNucci]

RoaR

[@neiljohnson6815]

The accurate comparison would have been .380 and .38 Special, NOT .38 Special +P.

[@Denise-ch6je]

Love Underwood! Xtreme penetrators FTW!

[@GunSam]

They can be decent. They are superior to TUI and NovX fluted or tumbling rounds.

[@RoadTraveler]

Bump

[@rons7354]

I love your videos but who wears 4 layers of denim 🤔

[@GunSam]

Probably an average person in autumn. I did figure my winter clothing equates to maybe 6 layers, summer or spring 1-4 layers.

[@podsmpsg1]

.38 Special +P is more powerful than .380. Larger cartridge and heavier bullet.

[@joeyphillips1181]

You was pulling those shots at 40 because that single action shot was dead center most of the rest was left and I think your first shot was to the right which I don't blame you I do it myself too sometimes 🤷🏻‍♂️ especially revolver's it's not easy to shoot a revolver well personally I shoot single action in a revolver better I'd rather adjust my grip and take my time because most double action triggers are horrendous

[@ChairmanKimchi]

Can you please do the same test with a glock 42/j frame? Thanks for what you do.

[@GunSam]

I don't have a Glock 42

[@Gieszkanne]

If you send him a Glock 42 he would.

[@antoniotula262]

Results should be the same, only .41 inch barrel length difference.

[@B_R_]

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