SO3 Assembly

[@amanita1113]

Hello! I am so glad I found your projects, just got into 3d printing in December 2023 and I want to upgrade my toolhead with this. I was searching for new toolheads and didn't find anything until I came across to this one. Thank you for the great work you do! Multumesc, can't wait to try it out.

[@HorizonMakes]

hey, do you have an ETA on the toolboard? I'm currently designing a new corexy IDEX printer and would like to use this extruder. Cheers!

[@orbiterprojects]

LDO prepares first manufacturing batch right now. so I expect will be available very soon.

[@pauloeduardogodoy]

THAT'S engineering! Congrats Dr. Robert!

[@iamnickdavis]

Lets goooo! just got mine in the mail. Can't wait for the tool board. TY

[@andrewdecarvalho]

I'm mostly excited about your tool-board. I had sketched out the very same idea, but haven't yet designed it. Now you've gone and done most of the hard work for me. I'm building a 3D printer with multiple tool-heads and for simplicity I wanted just one cable (usb-c or similar) running to each tool-head, power included. Would you anticipate me running into any issues with this application, using maybe 5 of your tool-boards on one printer via klipper? I have a mini-pc running klipper/mainsail on debian.

[@orbiterprojects]

I have not tried that configuration, Max I had is 3 devices connected via usb. In principle this is mainly firmware related, and I think it will work.

[@andrewdecarvalho]

@@orbiterprojectsGreat, any idea when the toolboard will become available?

[@szekelyathos]

Kedves Róbert, érdeklődni szeretnék, hogy van-e esetleg valami információd, hogy mikor lesz megvásárolható az Orbitool SO3 Tool-board?

[@rezzerwrecked]

Currently working on a solution for part cooling and mounting on an ender 3, and I'm tempted to go Beltender to play with the beta mount.

[@orbiterprojects]

I think that will be a good option. I like how my beltender performs. For the part cooling with SO3 I still have some work to do, its a little too tight.

[@rezzerwrecked]

I've gone the fun route of designing an adaptor plate for the stock Ender 3 backplate using the Beltender version as a template. I've got the first prototype adaptor and mount plates printing right now. Once they're dialed, I'll integrate a cooling solution; right now I'm working on a design using a 4010 radial positioned under the stepper.

[@meffken]

Looks very interesting! Is there any experience mounting it to a voron/stealthburner? Cant find any information about it online.... Maybe I should just give it a try 😁

[@leeroyjenkins7915]

not natively compatible since the carriage system of voron printers assumes tall and rather flat stack-up of nozzle-hotend-coldend-gears. The SO3 is short and thick.. You would have to rotate the whole SO3 by 90° and place it quite low, thereby probably reducing the X travel significantly. Nonethless, if(!) you would design a gantry that accommodates a lower hanging SO3 with IDEX capabilities, you would get a very nice dual extruder coreXY printer.

[@lukeglazebrook]

I am struggling to imagine how this could be mounted to the RatRig vCore 3.1 using either EVA 3 or the new RatRig Toolboard

[@declinox]

Getting ready to install this on my SK-Tank v2. The printer already has a BTT EBB36 on it I will reuse with this, but I look forward to swapping that out for the SO3's toolboard at some point.

[@johnlytle6633]

Is there a user manual? Just want to know how to do a filament change properly

[@donkeyrhomper]

Thanks for the thorough build guide. Where can we find the stl for the board holder/spacer/adapter that you use? I havnt com across it in all my research.... Gonna do my X2 conversion this week as the stock extruder has pooped out for its final time. TY!!

[@minga85]

hi When will the revo version be released? and a Voron mount or Version?

[@orbiterprojects]

Revo version is still in testing phase, hopefully we will finalize it now with the latest version. For adapters to voron I have no timeline. There are some atempts I've seen ongoing.

[@johanvandongen3139]

Is the toolboard already released, because I just got my so3 in the mail and I love it. But I am even more stoked about the toolboard.

[@orbiterprojects]

Toolboard is in manufacturing right now

[@anthonyfarrugia5136]

Great design!!! I am considering purchasing both orbiter v3 and tool board, but I am uncertain how to connect a bltouch which has 5 connections, and the tool board only has 4 connections.

[@Alex-on2dx]

Hello. Could you help me connect my smart orbiter v3 to the robin nano v1.2 board?

[@user-lx9jm1wo3h]

I would love to see this with a tool changer. Also, is there a CHC pro style hotend that will fit this instead of that shorter V6 style?

[@Yacobchuk]

I'm waiting for my extruder. But I can't find SO3 Tool-Board. Where are they sold?

[@orbiterprojects]

Its not at sale right now, LDO is working on the manufacturing of the first batch. From the information I've have it will be available in May.

[@NicksStuff]

Is it possible to buy just some parts? I already have a TL CHC heater and plenty of nozzles, for instance...

[@orbiterprojects]

At the moment, it is not possible. We will offer some spare parts in the future, but not plaaned to sell artial extruders. That would be a logistic nightmare.

[@sligit]

It seems that the tool board isnt available yet? Can you give us any idea what sort of price you're aiming for for the board?

[@orbiterprojects]

Price indication I do not have now, We try to push them out in the beginning of next year.

[@sligit]

@@orbiterprojects thanks. Also great work on the orbiter 3, it looks amazing. I'm going to be ordering one soon

[@1288832]

it would be nice to have a mirror version for idex printer

[@simonburke6681]

I can't find a video of the orbiter 3 in use. I am interested to see the mounting options and performance. I would love to be able to run two of these on a linear rail, how would I mount them is the question?

[@orbiterprojects]

There are some examples on the webpage, and some under development.

[@ThiagoSilva-ms4td]

Hi i just bought the smart orbiter extruder - v3.0 where can i buy the turbo i cant find it anywhere im located in Canada

[@NicksStuff]

The point of the tool board is only to protect the RPi and the Orbiter from a fault? Or is it necessary for the smart functions?

[@orbiterprojects]

The adapter board protects the USB port of the raspberry pi against short circuit to 24V. It is not related to the smart functions of the extruder. Is related to the connection between the toolboard and the raspberry pi via USB port.

[@minga85]

hey thanks for the work, the orbiter looks really interesting, I think I'll order the Revo version for my Voron V0. I have an idea for mounting the V3, is it possible to expand the plate between the engine and the main metal frame with another gear wheel to get the engine further up? This way you could mount the motor above the X gantry and wouldn't waste any installation space on existing printers. It would also be better in terms of the center of gravity. I hope my text is understandable. Thanks for the great work,

[@orbiterprojects]

There will be very soon a Revo version released. Its in manufacturing phase of the first batch.

[@thomassmith9059]

How about adapters for a Slice Mosquito? @@orbiterprojects

[@TwoDogsFighting]

Is the toolboard available to buy anywhere?

[@orbiterprojects]

It has not been released yet, beginning of next year.

[@PiotrMarkiewicz]

@@orbiterprojects we are almost in Feb, is toolboard released?

[@womacko]

@@PiotrMarkiewicz most-likely after chinese new year (March 24)

[@PiotrMarkiewicz]

@@womacko CHineese new year is over, any update? :)

[@sneakypete8809]

Why the SO3 comes with no tool board and also why it can’t be bought anywhere, did I miss something!?

[@orbiterprojects]

The toolboard design was not ready at the SO3 release date. LDO is manufacturing them right now, so they shall be available very soon.

[@sneakypete8809]

@@orbiterprojects thanks you for the information. I thought it was included! Bought it as an upgrade and also to eliminate some ribbon cables on one of my printers. Now I have to wait or use some other can solution on the market.

[@667Gurba]

Cool!! Can this be used with the Creality Sonic Pad?

[@orbiterprojects]

In principle yes, but the most challenge is having enough spare pins on your mainboard to connect the sensor to it. Most of the Creality boards do not have much spare pins left.

[@pure3vi1]

Where is the toolboard? Ive been waiting for months!!

[@orbiterprojects]

Sorry for the long waiting, first batch was shipped out this month to resellers, it should be available these days.

[@pure3vi1]

No worries. Thank you, appreciate your work!

[@Devills_hill]

Working with thermal grease without gloves. U are a brave man! If i don't use gloves i cover everything i touch with thermal grease 😂

[@orbiterprojects]

I hate using gloves. We die like real men :)

[@nikscha]

Great work! There's a spring loaded ball detent on the idler arm. I designed the "Ingenuity extruder", which has the same feature. Just out of curiosity: did I inspire you?

[@orbiterprojects]

Sorry to disappoint but no :). I started this design well over a year ago, and that was part of it almost from the beginning. By the way Bondtech LGX and LGX lite has similar ball pin. Nice extruder design you have there, I have not seen it before.

[@nikscha]

@@orbiterprojects No worries ^^ I can tell that a lot of work went into the orbiter v3, well done!

[@NainKaigo]

Will this work with RRF and Duet boards? If so, is there a setup guide? I am interesting in purchasing this for my CoreXY but currently run a Duet board with RRF

[@orbiterprojects]

If you know how to configure Duet than yes. By principle it should be possible to make it working with DUET but I have not provided a configuration guide. As I know all the features of the SO# are supported by RRF just need the right config.

[@victrotop]

Hello I received it and try to configure it for RRF too but I'm a noob since it's my first 3D printer build. Have you tried it?

[@nhchiu]

Are we supposed to put the thermal paste on the thread of the heatbreak that goes in to the heater block? I think the paste you used in the video GD900 is rated to operated at up to 200 degrees Celsius only, though I don't know what would happen if we go above it.

[@orbiterprojects]

It is a must on the heatbreak cold end, I recommend to add paste, however I missed in the video that the paste I was using is not for hotend. You need to use a paste rated minimum 350 deg C. I'm in discussion with LDO to change the supplied paste.

[@nhchiu]

@@orbiterprojects Yes I agree it should be applied on the cold end. Just being worried about safety and efficiency on the hot side. Thanks for checking with LDO!

[@nitronaf]

I am still waiting on some reviews of this product before I buy. I find it very strange all my retailers have it and yet no reviews out of it yet. Or at least an example build on a popular printing platform.

[@orbiterprojects]

This product is just been released in end of 2023 November so will take a while until people will do review videos. We already have support for a few platform and the list is growing, will link them to the webpage.

[@offbyfour]

Since the tool board interface is using USB, would it be possible to run a single USB cable from the raspberry pi to a hub which would then connect to the toolboard and also a nozzle camera?

[@orbiterprojects]

not that simple. would require extra USB port and a USB hub to be included on the toolboard.

[@offbyfour]

yes I was thinking that would be a separate pcb, that way the toolboard would not need to change. I was concerned though since cameras have high bandwidth and could interfere with the messages sent to the toolboard

[@Jelmer_V]

Is it possible to put a CHC Pro heater on this for higher flow? Seems like the same heatbrake.

[@orbiterprojects]

Yes is possible, the heatbreak is V6 style compatible at the heatblock side..

[@chanakalin]

How about cooling the extruder motor? Any design to be printer and any power connector from the extruder board for it?

[@orbiterprojects]

The extruder motor do not need cooling. Stepper motors are designed to run hot.

[@NicksStuff]

Is it worth it to wait for the Revo version? Performance-wise

[@orbiterprojects]

The revo version offers easier nozzle change, the flow is a bit less compared to the current hotend.

[@turbochargedbrick]

Is the SOv3 sold by triangle labs a clone??

[@orbiterprojects]

no, its genuine

[@ralmslb]

Make a version without the Klipper specific tool board, so that we can use other toolboards like Duet or connect it directly to the controller, and I will buy it on a heart beat.

[@orbiterprojects]

Duet can be used, just I personally have not the time to work out all the needed macros. I have no printer running on Duet anymore. But RRF offers all the features needed for the onboard electronics of the SO3.

[@ralmslb]

@@orbiterprojects but won't the toolboard be useless in this scenario? I understand that it can be possible to wire everything directly (the daughter board with the "smart sensors" etc. But my thing would be regarding paying for a Toolboard that I won't be able to use. And if we had the option to buy it without, would most make it like 10 to 15 bucks cheaper.

[@orbiterprojects]

Yes, the toolboard is for Klipper only, I do not plan support for RRF.

[@ralmslb]

@@orbiterprojects I understand that, but can it be considered to sell the S03 without the toolboard? (just the daughter board with the sensors)

[@1288832]

Alu or Copper radiator?

[@orbiterprojects]

its bi-metalic copper around the heatbreak tube and aluminum radiator.

[@1288832]

@@orbiterprojects oh thanks, and is the Volcano hotend radiator capable of cooling? the extruder design is very good

[@MrZzorg]

термопасту на термоборьер?! да вы что? остановитесь! на термобольер надо фумленту наматывать, чтобы наоборот тепло хуже передавалось на термоборьер и он был холоднее... чтобы само сопло легче прогревалось (термоборьер не отнимал тепло от хетблока)...

[@tinkerman-q]

Uhhmm I don't think the thermal paste is to be used with the nozzle, just the heat break. The paste will carbonise and make the heat transfer worse. They are not meant to even close to 200 C. It will also make the nozzle stuck to the heat block.