'Socialist Model TAXES People' | Labour's Pensioner Attacks Only The Beginning

[@angelawalker8615]

Everyone cheering Labour for going after the pensioners, just remember one day you (thats if they don't remove your state pension altogether) will become a pensioner. When these things are gone they are gone forever.Working people fought for these rights.

[@ecnalms851]

Except all benefits are and should be means-tested, just like universal credit is. Sorry, but means-testing WFA for the wealthiest generation in which 1/4 are millionaires is a good thing actually. You can debate on the threshold if you want but by limiting it to pension credit, the poorest are protected. The 1.4 million pensioners currently receiving pension credit will be protected.

[@terrypowell4249]

If you believe a quarter of pensioners are millionaires you are deluded.The majority of pensioners worked hard all their lives through mortgage rates of 15% while paying their taxes and national insurance to pay for the pensions of the then older generations.Any benefits they now get have been hard earned. I just hope that when you reach pension age there will be enough workers to pay for your pension though with the increasing number of free .loaders these days I rather doubt it.

[@lindaryga5570]

Its not a benefit its what you have paid​@terrypowell4249

[@ecnalms851]

​@@terrypowell4249 1/4 of pensioners are millionaires, that's a fact. It's because of their assets. All you need to do is a quick google search. And again, WFA was only introduced in 1997. All other benefits like universal credit are means-tested, WFA should be too. Sorry, but it's a welfare payment to help with winter bills, so only the poorest pensioners need it. The 1.4 million pensioners on pension credit who are the poorest, are the only ones who should get it.

[@ecnalms851]

@@terrypowell4249 ​ 1/4 pensioners are millionaires. It's because of their assets. Just do a quick google search. WFA was only introduced in 1997. All other benefits like universal credit are means-tested, WFA should be too. It's a welfare payment to help with winter bills, so only the poorest pensioners need it. So, the 1.4 million pensioners on pension credit who are the poorest, are the only ones who should get it.

[@NPC--666]

Under a democracy the state should serve the people. Under socialism the people serve the state.

[@johnbingham361]

Nicely put!!!

[@Terry-g9j]

I will.not serve the State End of.

[@JillGalloway-lg7wh]

Thousands of Pensioners use local bus to buy food and services, a lot won’t be able to walk to shops and carry heavy bags back . Taxi too expensive. They just won’t go out , especially in bad weather. First the government will freeze them now trying to starve them . Why target our vulnerable citizens. AT THE PALACE THE KING ASKED HIM TO FORM A GOVERNMENT .!'!!!!!!!!!

[@julianpetkov8320]

Under a democracy the people serve the oligarchy. The oligarchy provides full socialism for themselves, and only limited socialism for the people. They keep telling the serfs that "socialism is bad" so the serfs can accept austerity.

[@NPC--666]

@@julianpetkov8320 Notice I said should. The current set up is an oligarchy for sure. Socialsm however still requires individuals to relinquish control to some form of collective - the state.

[@janettegardner7144]

Labour are giving our country's money to foreign aid. Politicians travel expenses, 2nd homes allowances travelling expenses.

[@martinchandler9613]

@janettegardner7144 and there fuel expense accounts

[@Caesar-3el]

There cutting every avenue off for pensioners and if that line is crossed there will be pushback

[@imbonkers3629]

The worst thing is 😮 if we stopped giving billions n billions away just to look good on the world stage , nobody under £40k a year would need to pay tax 🙄

[@lucyallsop88]

Yes it's a disgrace

[@leehowson440]

Nobody needs to pay tax anyway, the government can make enough money without taxes, they take it because they can

[@davideyres955]

People earning under 40k don’t really pay tax. I believe the figure was less than 37k and you are a on average a net receiver of government money. Less than half the population put in more than they take out.

[@imbonkers3629]

@@davideyres955 don’t be stupid you pay tax after £12.5k so if your on £40k you will pay about 5.5k in tax plus ni

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@davideyres955 What incorrect nonsense. Do you understand what a tax threshold is ?

[@joycestewart8685]

STARMER OWN ASSESSMENT SAYS AROUND 4,000 PENSIONERS MAY DIE WITHOUT FUEL PAYMENT, WHO'S TAKING IT TO THE COURT OF HUMAM RIGHTS??

[@zoltan-zq3xe]

Sunak come back 😂 you were rather poor but this lot are a 1000 times worse.

[@lucyallsop88]

Warnings were everywhere about how bad Labour would be.

[@shaunluckham1418]

Sunak, Johnson and Starmer all have the same boss the WEF. None of them hide it

[@lucyallsop88]

@@shaunluckham1418 sadly you are correct

[@jasonbuksh2958]

They have done the impossible and made Sunak look great

[@Vanosphere]

You need to get out of that mindset, there are other choices to try before going back to Tory. . and I'm not talking about Liberals or Greens

[@lesliecarter4295]

Department of Energy needs investigation. Vested interests and net zero lobbying is pushing up energy prices…?

[@Ian-km7ks]

Please everybody vote reform and get Kier and Labour out!

[@leehowson440]

Farage is just as bad, don't believe the hype, they're all just different cheeks of the same arse

[@Ian-km7ks]

@@leehowson440 just as bad?

[@leehowson440]

@Ian-km7ks yes, he talks a good game but he's no more interested in stopping the boats than starmer or sunak, he's practically admitted it, you can find it on YT if you look for the interview

[@Ian-km7ks]

@leehowson440 OK we will see soon!

[@leehowson440]

@@Ian-km7ks well, I am willing to give them a go but I doubt it will make much difference

[@patriciacrangle8244]

They saying we are getting a rise next April that is too late for our winter fuel bills perhaps they are hoping we have frozen to death so there will be lees pensioners to pay the rise to I am 89 just over the threshold to receive credits Thank you Sir Freebies Starmer

[@martinchandler9613]

Boris got kicked out for less.

[@MargaretSiddon-z5w]

Yes and starmer went on and on and on

[@mhobson9478]

Abuse of human rights sounds about right for a lawyer who should know better

[@colinnicholson6828]

Surely starmer should pay tax on the value of his freebies.

[@MattDunny]

Over the past few months I have talked to a number of train drivers, they all said that in their opinion, they were well paid and they were not striking for increased wages, most of what they were striking for was changed terms and conditions

[@DarrenJones042]

"The broadest shoulders" are wearing dynasty style shoulder pads supplied by a donor who was given access inappropriately to Westminster

[@slimetimetv8517]

Pensioners pay tax out of less than minimal wage.try living off that.

[@FrontSideBus]

If you have a job and own your own home.... oh boy! Get ready to a rollercoaster of a ride!

[@Silver-st2zq]

Public sector workers will be better off so at least some core Labour values are still there shock horror!

[@imbonkers3629]

Will they how much as inflation gone up , energy bills , food prices , council tax , the vast majority of people like teachers bin men , etc don’t get anything like train drivers wages , so the majority are struggling like everyone else

[@Silver-st2zq]

@@imbonkers3629 Labour always look after the public sector over everyone and everything else so keep the faith!

[@imbonkers3629]

@@Silver-st2zq giving somebody a 10% pay rise if their lucky doesn’t cover the inflation on food n energy, rent rises , council tax rises , pay per mile on fuel coming in in the budget, plus your taxed on your wages 🙄you have a lot to learn

[@Silver-st2zq]

@@imbonkers3629 Just a tad better then the private sector! what is a pay rise again?

[@imbonkers3629]

@@Silver-st2zq depends what private sector you want to talk about do you earn more then a hedge fund manager, or a electrician plumber etc lol I’m a stone mason so always well paid , my brother as is own roofing business and he is a millionaire plenty of well of people in private sector

[@johnsharp8632]

'Those with broadest shoulders will have to bear the greatest burden'. Other than those getting £100000 in bribes and their energy costs for second homes it seems. The budget will be: 'how much did you earn last year?. How much do you have left? Send it!

[@elainewright3555]

They can't take anything else away from pensioners as they are way below income needed to stay alive

[@01matthewc]

Since when did Starmer ever care about this.

[@jasonbuksh2958]

They have done the impossible and made Sunak look great

[@GeorgeCoyle-y2r]

Unemployment will increase after the October budget, small business will close and many people will move overseas. Income for the Government will decease and there will be more cuts, UK is finished

[@mda5003]

Vote Reform UK. Nigel has relinquished his shareholding and the party is now owned by its members. Onwards and upwards.

[@lesliecarter4295]

Admin in Whitehall and council’s needs reducing…?

[@alanlesser1349]

The best thing for this country is for REFORM and the TORIES to become one party

[@aliengrey6052]

What!!!!! The Tories!!!!!!! That useless scum of a party!!!!!

[@basicfilmblog]

@@alanlesser1349 tories are well aware how much the country relies on immigration.

[@WayneJones-x5r]

Barmy Starma is a disgrace, makes Sunak a knight in shinning armour .

[@annealbrecht396]

Next year local elections vote Reform

[@allansandison2646]

Will the illegal immigrants lose any of their benefits, I doubt it, and the numbers coming in daily beggars belief, yet they never say how much they pay out DAILY

[@rjw4762]

As Mrs Thatcher said "Socialism works very well - until you run out of other people's money".

[@rjw4762]

@@johnkitching2248 Not wishing to be sarcastic when I ask What your definition of socialism is ? As for Public Finances, I am sure we can agree on one thing John - the Trains and Water should never have been privatised.

[@rjw4762]

@@johnkitching2248 I see. Funnily enough I came across a YT vidoe last week claiming that UK has gone from No.1 economy in the world to "ruin" in 100 years. This video was produced by left-leaning folk....but they do not get the irony that Britain didn't become the richest most powerful country in the world by being a Socialist state, rather a capitalist one.

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@johnkitching2248She was a,far superior PM that this shower of Labour shite

[@andrewwaller5913]

@@johnkitching2248 Completely disagree, she saved this country after years of shite Labour government. Now we're going back to the 1970s with Starmer and the communists. She had more balls than any of this current shower of Labour communist shite

[@Craig121000]

You don't wanna quote Thatcher.

[@malc802]

Just sick of it..... all his bloody millions, free gifts , allowances he has the cheek to say WE are in for tough times is a joke, it’s us who will suffer not him labour and is buddies

[@dacco2]

I believe we need another election just to confirm our choice.

[@stephenpearson7903]

Inflation is going to go up again, if there is an increase of 10p a litre on fuel that will increase the cost of deliveries, therefore food prices will increase, and that is just the beginning.

[@ade3628]

You will own nothing and be happy. Slowly getting there

[@Naturegarden236]

I don't know about being happy. How does that work😢

[@BiggUgg25]

Wonder if labour will bring out an advent calendar for the pensioners?

[@carolnoble4615]

Starmer wasnever working class. His father owned the toolmaking company making him middle class. Starmerhimself did not go to a state grammar school but an obscure one which became a fee paying school soon after. He has never mixed with working class people so doesnt understand them or how to speak to them. He is following the left wing socialism of the WEF of Davos. He really is clueless when it comes to working class people. Most of the super rich are ignorant. It is as the working class who knew how things worked. Big business has wanted to destroy our country centuries. They are finally succeding with Starmer the dictator in charge.

[@isleman8308]

This is all part of the plan!

[@Pes60]

Budget cuts are really going to help growth.😂

[@brianhazell3586]

Do the boat people pay TAX ON THEIR MONEY IF NOT WHY NOT IT MIGHT STOP THE BOATS COMMING

[@PoopyShaw-rf7nc]

The boats have to come for the next 5 years and more and more each month otherwise the governments plan won't work and i don't want to give up our homes to illegal immigrants because they won't have anywhere to live ?

[@stequality]

Unfortunately the public are in full support of this and even voted for it

[@codyjarrett9685]

I think even the people who voted for Labour are shocked

[@samhodgins9804]

Wait until the budget I think they will crash the UK economy

[@Craig121000]

Ordinary people are crashing the economy by spending less. Anyway, layoffs incoming...

[@samhodgins9804]

@@Craig121000 why are they spending less?

[@Craig121000]

Because they believe they're going to be impacted by the next budget.

[@samhodgins9804]

@@Craig121000 yes because Labour are going to cause chaos so people are holding onto cash. I can see Labour causing economic destruction

[@KG-vn8ou]

It’s the only way they know how to raise money.

[@stumac869]

Voters punished the Tories by punishing the country with Labour.

[@flappospammo]

david mastermind lammy on the front bench , is it april 1st already ?

[@BrianMuscroft]

Baby starma and his nodding donkeys

[@stephenomara9343]

We are allowing these despots to bring this country to it's knees 😢

[@Craig121000]

You allow them to do this by your inaction.

[@bobjames6622]

@craig so what have you done then, hero? Nothing!

[@Craig121000]

I'm not sure what you're expecting a, disabled person who's been run down by years of turmoil to do.

[@bobjames6622]

@@Craig121000 But you're the one with the big mouth. So back it up.

[@Craig121000]

Interesting, you're wanting me to come up with answers because you're too lazy...

[@lesleysylvestre6821]

I'm betting they've already put their heating on. They are well over the 'means testing' limit - so why are we taxpayers keeping themselves warm?

[@Michael-bk1ux]

why do they all have a "SHEEPISH GRIN".......................................................is there a smell somewhere.........

[@dizzydaydream9647]

If we all say no…..what can they do……enough of this dictatorship! Enough of this Orwellian control 😡😡😡

[@MarjorieJames-f5z]

If Labour has any interest in equality? Why don't they take the 5% VAT off energy and at least give back a little bit to everyone.

[@witlesswonderthe2nd883]

How about we tax stoolstarmers pension and stop providing politicians with one along with security as it’s an expense that the taxpayers can little afford.

[@maninst7145]

I see you have a picture of " curly, larry & mo. Complete Stooges!!!

[@djmattblack]

Hes the first person who has actually said that the energy price rise next month will be about 300 quid and that pensioners who are losing their winter fuel allowance will get hit by that as well as other rising costs. Its all very well them saying pensioners will get an uplift next April but thats not going to help them much now

[@alexwilkinson1850]

So what's the point in voting

[@abstract33]

Perhaps Labour freeloading ahead of draconian tax laws?

[@dogpound7162]

Pensioners should be more useful to the powers that be, maybe they could sit in their freezing garrets sewing gowns for our emperor & empress, useful members of society again, win win !

[@antonymarjeram576]

So pensioners are possibly going to be £1000 pounds less well off with all the benefits taken away and they don't have kids to pay for and possibly own their own homes and can spend money on UK holidays and buying food in supermarkets and restaurants and cafes to boost the British economy. Then why is the government taking away the amount of money they invest in the economy and into the UK industry of tourism and leisure

[@StevePiner-m6x]

Pensioners living on estate with young thug can we not build a home for over ,65', nice mobile home out there get them buit for old let them live in peace they have foreigners all around them thugs not nice lots of land out there

[@80sMod1]

:(

[@garyowen4112]

what did you think was going to happen when to pay the national debt off would need every taxpayer to pay over £70,000 each and its still going up,the day of reckoning is here

[@robertjones3613]

Apart from, of course, immoral politicians who create every problem that causes "national debt". Taxpayers money is totally misused and abused by those in power.

[@DeneMonkey]

Tories capitalist system went well for 14 years lol

[@imbonkers3629]

And plz tell us how 13 years of socialism went under Blair 🙄

[@ThePitPony]

It was never truly capitalist,more like an infiltration of the Tory party by WEF NGO stooges. And its ongoing. The sad part is people still think the likes of the world economic forum is a "conspiracy theory" 😂😆 You're going to get what you deserve from being docile, gullible and weak

[@jaguarskills69]

​@imbonkers3629 and the half wit Chancellor who took 9 billion out of pensions

[@DeneMonkey]

@@imbonkers3629 everything seem to run smoothly

[@codyjarrett9685]

They aren't Tories. Socialist wearing a blue tie