*SOCIETY OF THE SNOW* REACTION! First Time Watching!

[@ChachiSays]

Thanks for watching, everyone! You can find the FULL version of this reaction HERE: www.patreon.com/posts/poll-winner-of-102307395

[@zerocool771]

"Me llamo Numa Turcatti morí el 11 de Diciembre de 1972 mientras dormía". "No hay amor mas grande que aquel que da la vida por sus amigos". R. I. P. Numa. Words that reach the soul.

[@TheMoonlight2887]

Nothing prepares you for the insanely realistic depiction of the crash.

[@peakyatreides]

nominated for the Oscars for best foreign film... and they stole the award because it is a Spanish production and the language is Spanish....J.J.Bayona is a genius(Steven Spielberg)

[@caleidoscopio4770]

Not really because it was Spanish, because the winner was about the Holocaust, and in Hollywood you can bring the biggest shit that if it's about the Holocaust it will win.

[@user-qx6ri2bf4o]

The film is a cinematic masterpiece, not only because of the aesthetics, art, photography, make-up or script, but because they managed to tell the story as real and truthful as possible, to the point that the survivors actively participated in it and say that when they see it they relive in their minds everything that happened. It is wonderful the way in which Bayona manages to show the harshness of what happened with an artistic touch and a strong emotional charge and for the first time not only highlighting the figure of the survivors as heroes but also those who died and did not make it out of the mountain, which is why Numa's voice as narrator is so important. Each of the actors met the real person they were playing and most of them managed to create a bond with them, moving from interpretation to reality and giving the importance it deserves to what each survivor felt, because as they have already said, each one remembers the mountain in a unique way. THANKS FOR REACTING! It's not getting a lot of attention from reactors :(

[@mariadelcarmenfernandezfer3895]

Soy uruguaya y lloro todas las veces que veo una reacción. Es una obra de arte que toca el alma y hace reflexionar.

[@marianaanastasio6244]

Some of the survivors made cameos in the movie, the real Canessa is the doctor behind the movie Canessa, the father of Carlitos is the real Carlitos. And Nando isbthe man that opened the airport door to his movie family

[@ChachiSays]

Wow. I had no idea. I'm so glad they were included!

[@marianaanastasio6244]

@@ChachiSaysthey worked with the director Bayona

[@Miki_peach]

@@ChachiSays Even Numa's nephew did a cameo in the movie (the neighboor who told him "good night" at the beginning). In fact all the families of the deads were involved, not only the survivors, there is a great and emotionnal interview of Marcelo's sister. You can feel the movie is first of all for them and not the public.

[@begona3886]

Thanks for your reaction. I loved it. Yes, Numa is the voice of all of them, the voice of whom died at the mountains. He was the last one who died there and director Bayona wants to tell the story giving them the principal rol, being different than the old version of this story. Is Arturo Nogueira whos tell to Numa that he only believe in the other friends and not in "official" God.

[@prettykit4]

I was teary eyed the whole film. But when they were rescued, I started bawling and couldn’t stop until the credits were gone. You and one other reactor I’ve seen so far are the only ones who understood what was happening with the suitcase at the rescue.

[@LegadoSpartan]

13:27 He was not disrespectful, he took things from each dead person to take them to each family. He is the same guy who did not want to leave his suitcase when he boarded the helicopter, because in that suitcase he carried the belongings that he had taken from each deceased. When he arrived in Uruguay he personally took the things to each family.

[@ChachiSays]

Yes, I was confused at the beginning but then understood later what he was doing. Loved that moment at the helicopter!

[@catireacts6550]

And he was the one who insisted to have the families and survivors together for the first time when they screen the movie for them. Ever since 1972 they had separated survivors from the families, and it was the one time all "passengers" were in the same place together.

[@josyshen2535]

Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it. Thank you as well for watching it in Spanish. A few facts: Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, it was facing the cold metal of the plane when he was left outside because everybody was thinking he was dead or about to die. The cold served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling in his head and make him better. Diego Storm (who died during the avalanche) was another medicine student thought after the first night it was a good idea to bring Nando to a warmer area inside the plane. The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what. They were peeing black because of severe dehydration, the snow took ages to melt and the ice was burning their mouths and gums. Numa, when Marcelo died said: they have been waiting for a moment like that, a moment of peace. Marcelo after finding out the government stopped looking for them got very depressed and kind of lost hope. Some of the survivors say that they think when Marcelo was trapped in the snow during the avalanche he let himself die because he could not fulfill his promise that rescue was coming and all of those people were in that plane because he planned the trip. The guilt and despair kill him, the avalanche was just his way to let go of that burden. Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor. The cousins how the call themselves were those who carried the biggest burden of all, to know which friend they were eaten and cut that friend to be eaten. Carlitos, the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car at the airport, was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plane or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to protect them and sleep during their walk to Chile. They had so so so so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile. In those years if you went to Chile with a few dollars or had some out of the market products you were a millionaire. Chile was going through a horrible economical crisis. Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to. The others 14 left in the plane also had a plan b in case Nando and Canessa did not make it which was putting together another team to hike the mountains. The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory. In the alive version some families did not give permission to use the real rugby player's names. In this versions all the families were happy and satisfied with the way the story was told and gave permission. Reporters kept digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive for respect to their death friends families, also ashamed and worry their families friends and the country would judge them. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference) He said that Jesus gave his blood and body to save the world so the survivors took their friends bodies and blood for them to be save. Pancho also asked the reporters to please not spoiled with yellow press and judgement an act that was sacred to them and something that was done for pure survival instinct. The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, opened the door to the actor who played him at the airport, Roberto Canessa was one of the Drs in the Hospital when they got rescued, Coche Inciarte reading a newspaper in the bar Numa and his friends were, Daniel Fernandez in the church, Numa's real life nephew passing by Numa's house when he was entering and Carlitos, who read all the survivors names, were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972. The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase and when back home he personally went to each of the families homes of the passengers that did not survive to give them something that belonged to them, so the families even when not having their bodies back they could have something to remember them by. In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said most of the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place and made sure the survivors knew they had a gun. Also the smell and dirt was unbearable. Only one rescuer Sergio Diaz, I believe he is called, stayed in the plane with them that night, ate with them and advised them about what they were going to face after everybody knew they have eaten human beings. There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane during the 71 days the survivors were stranded on the mountain. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.

[@ChachiSays]

Thanks so much for all this info! My gosh, I started to tear up reading about Marcello. Poor guy. He really blamed himself, didn't he? So heartbreaking. I feel like there's always a group of people who are going to question the motives of those that gain fame from horrific circumstances. Claudio Lucero seems to be this type of person. To think they would go through all of this for fame? Absurd.

[@Bellixies]

This is a real story, a beautiful story that teaches us about the strength of the human spirit, we are really unstoppable if we want to be.

[@1b0y4me]

Great reaction, thank you for reacting with subs!!

[@diannebdee]

Some information I've posted elsewhere in an update of the aftermath. I hope you don't mind. And thank you for your beautiful reaction. just lovely. It was Arturo who gave Numa that talk about god. The other conversation Numa had was with Javier Methol. The film was partially filmed up at the Valley of Tears where the fuselage actually came to rest. JA Bayona went up there and filmed things for the backdrop of Mt. Seler (named by Nando Parrado in honour of his father), plus the surround for the Andes. The sound mixer also recorded things like the wind and how the snow sounds up there to be used in this film. So it is by and large authentic to the experiences these boys went through. As for Numa Turcatti. Numa was the one righteous man we see once in a lifetime. He was a law student who was about to take the bar to become a lawyer. His arguments against eating the dead was based on both his spiritual beliefs, and his studies in law. The four days buried was because in tandem with the avalanche, they were also experiencing gale force winds and a four day storm. That was why the shelter of the fuselage was better until the storm was over. Arturo died of pneumonia. His lungs were full of fluid. Usually antibiotics could help, but up there Roberto and Gustavo had nothing. As for them being clean shavn, not all men grow bushy beards. Some may have tons of head hair, but very little if no facial hair. The actor playing Numa is Enzo Vogrinzic, actually lost about 50 pounds during the filming. He went from 150 to 103lbs. All the actors were on a closely monitored diet to fully depict the trials the actual men went through up there. As one's body begins to diminish, they become somewhat old as they no longer have the suppleness of the muscle they had. The protein in the bodies gave them nothing but lean energy, but not carbohydrates we all need to sustain us. As for Numa dying. He was the voice of the dead, the ones who didn't return. The ones who survived are still close to this day. There are 14 left as Javier Methol (the man who lost his wife) died in 2014, and Jose Luis "Coche" Inciarte (the one who needed help walking) died in 2023. They still gather on rescue day, or as they call it "rebirth day." They have all gone back up to the crash site many times since 1972. One of them, Eduardo Strauch, is part of an adventure team that takes sivilians up to the crash site. All that remains up there is wreckage as the remander of the fuselage was burned and the bodies buried in a communal grave. Roberto Canessa (med student) and Nando Parrado (man who lost his sister and mother) have been called exceptional in what they did. Mountaineers and alpinists from Ed Viesters (summited Everest five times) and others have called what they did as amazing considering they had no equipment and no training. Also not to forget their physical condition. As for the long-term effects of what happened. Many of them do suffer from a form of PTSD, but with the other survivors they have help and support. The one thing I have to say about these boys. If you remember from the beginning of the film, Numa's voice over stated many of these boys had known each other when they were young. Many of their fathers knew each other as many played rugby for Stella Maris College as teens/young men. These men formed lasting bonds that have survived to this day due in large part to their faith, and their love....always love for each other. And at the end of this story as it still is 52 years later, it is all about the love they had for each other and the love they had for the ones who didn't return. This story is about the power of love. Could we all wish to have the same spirit these men had and have today. I've been with this story since reading "Alive" back in 1976. I have followed these men since then. The one thing I have learned from them is not to squander away your life as you might not know what as Roberto Canessa has said, "When your plane will crash." Some info about where they all are today. Roberto Canessa (med student and one of the ones who made the walk) is now a world reknown pediatric cardio thorasic surgeon. He operates on fetuses inside their mother's wombs in order for them to be born healthy and life their lives as they should. He has won many awards for it including many in the United States. Nando Parrado (one who lost his sister and mother) is an vintner, and former race car drivier and who is now a motivational speaker. Many of them indluding Gustavo Zerbino (other med student) and Adolfo "Fito" Strauch have become long term associates for Stella Maris College in the rugby program. The same one they came from. Javier Methol (man who lost his wife) was a tobacco grower and successful buisness man. Moncho Sabella lives in Argentina and is a successful agriculturalist. A lot of the others have gone into other things including public speaking as has Carlitos Paez (guy whose father was looking for him.) Some trivia: Nando Parrado can be seen in the airport opening the door for his "family" and his portrayer, Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa can be seen aiding his film portrayer, Matias Recalt when they get to the hospital after the rescue. Coche Inciarte can be seen directly behind Numa Turcatti actor, Enzo Vogrinzic, in the pub scene with Gaston and Pancho. Ramon Sabella can be seen in the airport as an extra. Carlitos Paez (guy who made the sleeping bag) played his own father, Carlos Paez Vilaro who didn't rest until his son was back safe. Juaquin Turcatti (Numa's actual brother) is seen in the night outside the home Numa grew up in. Those were Numa's actual books he used to study from. Gustavo Zerbino is seen at the beginning as a rugby coach. In summation, this film was made to remember those who died. This is the first time the names of the dead have been used as the relatives of the dead refused to allow their loved ones names to be used in other productions: "Survive" 1976, and "Alive" 1993. This film is a dedication from the living to the dead. It is their voice Numa speaks for.

[@ChachiSays]

Thank you so much for tall this info! So happy to hear how well they're doing to this day and that they received the support they needed to heal physically and mentally. Not surprised at all at how successful Roberto Canessa became lol What he and Nando did was simply astonishing!

[@luciaarnaotorrego6852]

This is currently mu favourite movie. Thank you so much for reacting to it and for doing it in spanish.

[@kristymcdowell6185]

This movie is literally life changing.

[@kaylaap399]

I think the director chose to tell the story through Numa to give protagonist to those who couldn't make it, but were equally important for the survival of the 16 guys. It's a wondeful movie with a lot of life's lessons like resilience, faith, frienship, love, overcoming terrible challenges... it's about indomitable human spirit and it should be a must see movie, specially in these times where every human person is appreciated, not for what he is but for what he has... Thanks for your review!

[@nuria3736]

Beautiful reaction, thank you!

[@karlacortez2324]

Sergio Santander, the mule driver who found Nando and Canessa! From that day on, they always visited him...until his last day!! There is a museum in Uruguay to remember this fact and a figure from Santander accompanies them! Love, The Andes, Rugby...Chile and Uruguay!

[@mjarteaga1754]

I believe his name was Sergio Catalán, but he was definitely a kind soul who was intrinsic to their rescue once they reached the area they did.

[@corysoles]

Numa 😭😭😭😭😭 Thanks for this, I love this movie. Subscribe from Chile.

[@marbella135]

To answer one of your questions, yes one of the people who got flown out of the plane did survive for a while. Carlos Valeta. In the film you can hear them calling out to him when Numa is left alone with the dying pilot. Unfortunately as Carlos tried to reach the plane and his friends, he stepped on a deep hole of snow, fell in and suffocated.

[@cleveroliveira6727]

Lots of love from Brazil, my friends.

[@JavierTabeira]

Gracias abrazos 🫂 desde Uruguay😊

[@sandraecheverria4695]

Hi there, thanks for reacting to this masterpiece. One more thing, the correct term is anthropophagy, not canibalism. They are different, it is not the same thing.

[@sandraecheverria4695]

Oh one more thing: there are some cameos of the survivors, too: Nando is the tall man holding the door for " Nando" and his family at the airport; Carlitos Paez is the man reading the list of survivors playing his own father in the movie, because Carlitos' father was the one who read it at that time; the real Roberto Canessa plays the part of the doctor carrying " Roberto" behind him entering the the hospital. And there are some others.

[@ChachiSays]

Thanks so much for letting me know! I have never heard of that term before.

[@Norweginpiano-f5s]

Nando parodo didnt tell his dad that his sis and mom died till after he fully recoverd

[@luciaarnaotorrego6852]

You should watch a monster calls and the impossible. They are other masterpieces by the same director, Bayona.

[@ChachiSays]

I have seen The Impossible but not A Monster Calls. I'm gonna have to look that one up. :)

[@antifax8434]

Masterpiece ❤❤❤

[@alenkad8954]

❤🙌❤ Thank you 🇺🇾

[@Gabriel26963]

Great reaction btw! This movie is way better than Alive, that one was based on the accident, but te crictic by the survivors about it, was that yes it was very accurate but just that, like a cold description of events, this movie is vased of a book of the same name as the movie, written by a schoolmate of several of the survivors, that took the time to interview all the families, and dedicated time not just for the survivors but those who didnt make it as well. And in regards to the cause of the accident, was simple human error, that scene where they draw and explain the route is key, there was bad weather and they were flying by instruments, that means that based on the instrument readings plus the time of flight they calculated where they were. Well the copilot made a mistake, he didnt took into account the wind velocity against the plane, if he had, he would have realised they were still 6min away from clearing the mountain pass, so that mistake, made the pilot think they had reached Curico and turned the plane nort... but since they were still deep within the mountain pass... basicale he turned the plain nort to the mountains. thats why they thought all the time on walking to chile, they though they were on the chilean side of the mountains, when in reality, they were a 2day walk from a mountain road that lead to an abandoned sky resort on the argentinian side.

[@javix2013]

The good thing about this version, is that although the acting part was filmed in Spain, but all the backgrounds around them, and all the aerial shots are from the real place where they were, a lot of footage of the real place was filmed, and then by means of special effects, those shots were joined to the shots filmed with the acts in Spain, and as a result you have the actors in the same places of the real events, in the Andes in South America, the previous version ALIVE was filmed in Canada, not in the real place.

[@User-gh1xvjyn3fk9]

😮😮😮😮 Hey porque siempre te veo en todos lados 😂😂😂😅😅

[@javix2013]

@@User-gh1xvjyn3fk9 Y es normal, o vos comentas 1 vez por año en KZbin ?, si hay un tema de tendencia, en 2 o 3 videos comento mis opiniones, sin ir mas lejos en el video sobre Furiosa, la peli con Anya Taylor Joy tambien he comentado mis pareceres.