SOD PHASE 3 ROGUE PVP GUIDE - DESTROY EVERYTHING - WE ARE BACK | QUICKSTART RUNES BIS ROTATION

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[@batuhankaratas1440]

Not sure if you mentioned it in the video but I should point out a small note for engineers: in SoD, we can learn both gnome and goblin engineering recipes without re-leveling engineering. There are some guides out there to see how we can acquire the recipes from the other "faction" of engineering. Basically, we just do a quest to get the opposite faction recipes. This saves us a lot of money and/or time of course. Cheers!

[@perp-]

I always miss something man goddamnit, pinning this ty

[@datafreak911]

any link for that?

[@Snipingisnothing]

thank you for this video. I've been searching everywhere for a BIS list for PVP and couldn't find it. I love you. Hope you have a great day.

[@perp-]

u too! and ur welcome

[@korvynah]

I will say the guide is pretty spot on with the exception of the BIS PVP gear. Missed +100 hp arcanums on helm, and legs. +15 agility on offhand, +9stamina bracers, band of the wilds is better than blackstone same stats except wilds grants poison hit application, no +7 scope on gun, filchers cowl for PVP is a must over any stamina cloak, the 6 piece from pvp set is useless you get the same stamina and more attack power by a lot with lycan helm and epic shoulders. PVP helm + shoulders with 6pc set bonus is 54 ap and 28 stamina and 2 crit. Lycan helm + paranoia shoulders is 28 stamina 1.07 crit (down .97 crit but up in ranged attack power +97, +2.14% dodge) and a total of +66 attack power. With full bis you would already be at 50% crit with improved backstab which is every other hit RNG is a crit. At that point there's diminishing returns if you lack attack power to actually crit hard. 5% hit cap is all you need for PVP as melee unless the target has +defense ratings. +4 stats chest isnt in the game yet so you'd be using +3 stats chest (at this point for PVP id argue +100 hp is better). Also the hyperconductive belt is -1 stamina from BRD Girdle of Bestial Fury which yields +38 attack power. The weapon chain is good for warrior and hunter matchups and ive yet to see a single riposte rogue but that would be good for a weapon swap, if you dont have crusader on MH or +15 agi if you were able to obtain 2 righteous orbs before they were removed like myself. I understand this game out 2 weeks ago or more so this may of been before you were aware of these things or am I missing some reasoning on this gear setup? Also I am aware that the engi belt offers a chance at move speed or crit so could argue when CD is up this is better but again that goes back to already being at 50% crit 24/7. Stacking crit to 99% would be useless if you lacked 300 attack power with how breakpoints and diminishing returns function.

[@slashxd7971]

thoughts on his usage of carnage? I find myself rarely using besides for tanks on EFC in bgs. Also, CP feels a lot more potent with the energy gain, or should i still be giving honor among thieves a better try?

[@yannickinskywalker]

Amazing! I have only ever had to speed up youtube videos x 1.5. Your videos I have to watch x 0.75. Speed running through that stuff!

[@perp-]

hahahah

[@PromisedPatron]

Didn't hear it in the engi section: SOD has a questline so you can be both specializations - just a weekly lockout to learn opposite side. God like video as always.

[@ElemorOG]

Can you share the guide? Video? smt? :D

[@least-welcome]

Literally the best wow guide I've ever watched. 11/10

[@Jake227-em2gn]

very nice guide thankyou

[@sirdavidhuynh]

Whats the addon on the right to choose what rune to pick?

[@Jarke]

Great video I will say can you slow down a little? Some things you mentioned I had to reduce the speed of the video to catch the names lol.

[@Wuhangangg]

ty perp been waiting on this guide

[@coolclips101]

Hey, any thoughts on the new saber slash buffs?

[@mariuscroitoru4983]

Pls could you tell me how is your gear shown as rank 14 or hakkari blade? Is that an addon?

[@TB-sg5bk]

Why carnage? It doesn’t appear part of your rotation. I try to bleed my targets to incorporate it, but I’m not using it enough to justify the selection idk what to do

[@MarvinTheCat.]

Awesome guide as always master... maybe i didnt catch it but eng 1 prof what about the other ? thx in advance.

[@adavies4389]

Why take talents in sinister strike?

[@merqxstyle]

What leveling talent build you guys recommend?

[@Neox1986]

great guide, as always

[@perp-]

ty!

[@Neox1986]

@@perp- With all the hit gear atm its easy to overcap. What would you specc other then Precision?

[@fieswow]

Nice pvp video❤

[@frostreaper6077]

Hey prep was just curious why you dont use 3/3 pvp set and 2/3 pve set for the extra stam. Also by now use the 12stam 36 ap belt?[Temple Looter's Waistband]

[@perp-]

setbonuses gonna be breakin all the time with helms/boots/belt swaps etc, and you wanna have multiple sets to swap to for rune swaps. belt's actually an oversight, ty!

[@frostreaper6077]

@@perp- makes sense. Also do you think it is worth me using tidal charm? I feel like with my range stun and other stuns its better to use my other trinkets.

[@immortal1337]

What addons shows the enemy players buffs? mine used to do it (ShadowedUF) but doesnt do it anymore, i thought this has been removed?

[@perp-]

classicauradurations

[@anethystlol6850]

your lazer pointer mouse got me feeling like a cat

[@fieswow]

thanks senpai

[@Hunter-ib9ks]

PERP GUIDE! This is legit.

[@smatt4726]

hi thx for the guid, whats the alternative for the sentinels blade when we do not have rep yet ?

[@perp-]

any green dagger from AH over 1.6 speed is fine

[@ShayRubachOfficial]

Nice perp. I would LOVE to hear you talk about "poison based build" vs. "raw-dmg-not-relying-on-poison-dmg" in PvP. I sometime find my QA + BtE combination much weaker then DB+Env in terms of "finishers". Eviscerate feels much weaker than Env. Also, how much hit is enough in pvp? I see so many diff info on google. I have 7% atm and it feels ok, idk. Thanks!

[@perp-]

5% hit from gear so u hitcap blind and BTE/QD, the hit in combat tree doesn't count for ranged attacks or spells. poison based builds will always be more damage but u absolutely cuck urself in terms of safety nets since u will not be able to properly control targets whatsoever. DB procs on saps so forget sapping offtargets, cant gouge bandage, etc. it doesn't allow u to cover all the rng and all the wild amounts of burst other people can do to u. in situations where ur not gonna die and uve exhausted ur opponents defensives, ur fine to runeswap (with itemrack) mid combat to DB/enven to burst but for the most part its not needed. hope that helps

[@Thedharmaguide]

I’ve been finding DB & envenom pretty fun in p3. If I get the opener i can destroy most classes just under CS and kidney. Combat potency so a lot more damage faster.

[@ElemorOG]

Hi, one question. Why you spend 2 talent points in Imp. SS instead of taking 2% dodge? I thought we are not using SS since we have Mutilate, and mutilate is not scaling with SS talents.

[@ElemorOG]

Also, you spend 3 points in imp. Ambush and you don't use it in the rotation either.

[@ElemorOG]

and last question - Carnage. You tell us to use it but you don't use any bleed in the rotation.

[@perp-]

that's just 1 basic rotation opener that's safest, you'll be using imp ambush a lot in openw orld

[@perp-]

quick draw benefits from imp ss

[@ElemorOG]

@@perp- thanks for the answer. Now it's clear :D

[@snoogans3849]

Thank you!

[@perp-]

ur welcome

[@ndb1aydc]

does carnage change your rotation? your rotation currently seems to be about control, how do you incorporate bleeds?

[@nolansasse827]

Don't take this as fact, I'm mostly guessing but...I think with serrated blades the idea is to incorporate Rupture in to the rotation early to dump CP, especially with honor among thieves procs...but he talks about control the whole video and that doesn't quite mesh with imp gouge etc

[@akrilixgaming8590]

Is the Nightmare trinket still performing after the fixes? Not sure whether to invest or not and not much info out there? Great video as always!

[@perp-]

I'd pay no more than 400g personally!

[@balen3505]

If possible, could you list some of your favorite iMorph macros you have? I love the color schemes with different sets and tabards that you play with in your streams.

[@perp-]

they change on a daily basis LOL

[@Reyka26]

Your rotation in now way makes use of the carnage rune. In the comments you say carnage is safer, could you please elaborate ? How are you incorporating rupture to make use of carnage ?

[@6ic6ic6ic]

The trinket proccing off distract is crazy.

[@perp-]

fixed now

[@Enlazador9]

ending the video as a corpse is an interesting meta

[@ThomasLenan-gk9xk]

literally a perfect guide.

[@perp-]

ty Thomas!

[@chriscross1424]

Why no heightened senses? Also do you not think maxing out malice would be a good idea now that Honor Among Thieves is working properly? I'd really appreciate your answer on these I'm struggling to find my perfect spec this phase

[@chriscross1424]

Also why 5/5 camo is it just for short cd on stealth? And do you really think serrated blades is worth it? Better than more crit from Malice?

[@chriscross1424]

Also why no imp ambush in bgs? lol so many questions

[@perp-]

1. heightened senses is fine but mages will pick with displacement in bgs so u care less for hunting druids 2. maxing out malice for hat is pointless cos its 1% vs the value of other talents when ur crit is already insanely high and other ppl will be proccing it for u 3. camo for connecting on targets, vanish/sapping cleaner, stealth jumps in bgs 4. imp ambush in bgs is pointless because everythings tanky so u never wanna ambush anyway, ur not an assassin in the bgs ur a cc bot/setup class

[@TheTwilightsMuse]

@@perp-"ur not an assassin in the bgs ur a cc bot/setup class" I wish more players would think this way. I can get 0 kills in a BG as a Rogue and still be an integral part of my team.

[@chriscross1424]

@@perp- thanks so much for the quick response. I guess you're probably right about everything. I still might take imp ambush just cuz i like it, but I will definitely be taking 5/5 camo and serrated blades. Really appreciate your vids man keep it up. Would love a 1v1 guide vs all classes vid eventually

[@Ashaife]

Can I ask what you're saying at 2:36ish after cheapshot, muty, gouge?

[@Whineythepooable]

pool energy

[@Ashaife]

@@Whineythepooable ty!

[@R3DFOOFOO63]

how'd you get those unit frames bro

[@xlazyusgg8278]

Hello thanks for the guide , but what is this yellow glowing wpn enchant ?

[@perp-]

imorph program

[@bloodysorrow5625]

why do you spec into improved sinister strike if u use mutilate?

[@kylefragola8346]

I believe it’s because quick draw rune benefits from SS talent points. So instead of quick draw costing 30 energy it’s 25. Don’t know the exact numbers off the top of my head though

[@krismaster4887]

@@kylefragola8346 20 instead 25*

[@andreasanmarco5655]

Mate is there also a chance to play assassination spec effectively? And in which cases do u use envenom and deadly brew runes?

[@idkidgaf]

Assassination is far easier to play than Sub, but has a lower skill ceiling, particularly in SoD. Yes, you can play Assassination in PvP, and yes you take both deadly brew and envenom when doing so.

[@perp-]

dont play assass, very unsafe, need sub

[@RemotayDF]

ty kind sir

[@perp-]

pleasure

[@maciejzastawny88]

Why 2 points in improved sinister when we using Mulitlate ? and never sininster? i nkow dodge is also shit but is some what used...?

[@eiisenfaust]

how do you let the mouse cursor glow yellow in the night elf part in westfall?

[@perp-]

cursortrail

[@user-oz3ip3mj7q]

Hey perp, what are your thoughts on a Remorseless Strikes+Prep build? For example 11/8/22? Also, is 5/5 Master of Deception really needed now with the increased stealth level from both cloak+feet? And Camouflage I don't think 5/5 is necessary either cause theres no reason to have the stealth CD be shorter than the time it takes to drop combat in PvP? Great video :)

[@MattLend]

How much hit do you need in PvP since ur set gives 7% and the spec i'm runing gives 5% 12% seems high for pvp thought soft cap was 5%? Idk what is is for White hits but is Hit even that valuable after 5%? Would for example WSG ring and Masons Fraternity Ring not be better? Would also make Defiler's Leather Girdle maybe a better belt option too.

[@MattLend]

Also curious if you are using Filcher's Cowl, the stealth cloak. Seemed really good in STV.

[@polypom8453]

@@MattLend probably, its insanely good

[@tenso8162]

what are the situations where we want to ambush over mutilate? does ambush do more dmg and worth the 60 energy cost?

[@canerkorkmaz4403]

40 energy

[@RF-nn4hr]

id like to have offhand swap to mind numbing vs mages (with Waylay boot swap).... is it that big of a deal to do Crippling off-hand and wound main hand?

[@perp-]

cripp mh 70% slow

[@lukasmischlich1178]

Whats the reason for the improved Sinister Strike since we're using Mutilate?

[@anthonydupont3829]

i don't get it too

[@polypom8453]

@@anthonydupont3829 it modifies quick draw so it costs 20energy instead of 25

[@akrilixgaming8590]

Isn't the Precisely Calibrated Boomstick a bit too fast, or that's preferable to higher base dmg?

[@perp-]

don't need el damago sir on ranged wep

[@LazyFox42]

@@perp- what about Between the Eyes crits?

[@sarkinja]

I'm seeing a lot of rogues in BG and World PVP either running deadly brew, or instant deadly. Is it better atm or are they just being lazy with poisons?

[@perp-]

they're inexperienced

[@the_Acaman]

I use a similar build to the bg one you showed. But instead of serrated blades and lower cd on evasion/ sprint, I put 1 extra on hit and 3 on off hand dmg. I believe this would output more dmg than just serrated blades and I don't mind not having evasion and sprint up as often

[@adamleviring]

What actually benefits taking improved sinister strikes?

[@polypom8453]

quick draw is 5less energy so goes from 25 to 20 since it share modifier with sinister strike

[@shuway9422]

why the 2 points in sinster strike if you're daggers?

[@Julienyuts]

Quick Draw rune benefits from all Sinister Strike modifications

[@takuutv]

my guy

[@jean-marcqian1235]

Could you make a video about your UI please, I love it so much!

[@perp-]

I think I have haha

[@plasmabrain1]

Hey perp there is also an addon callt Ranker did the same like the browser calculater

[@perp-]

ty!

[@JeanKastell]

can i get your imorph set at 2:50 ? :)

[@Jade___]

The Saenchai of WoW

[@perp-]

:o

[@keiransback]

@@perp-just letting everyone know how nice this compliment is. Saenchai is one of the greatest Thai Muay Thai fighters to ever live.

[@Esehe]

@@keiransback The goat. He lacked competition so he went several weight classes above his own weight. Still won.

[@Nglofc]

what skill is the one @ 2:46? fan of knives?

[@tenveri]

an iMorph macro, only he sees it other people can't.

[@Nglofc]

@@tenveri thank you, I was going crazy thinking I missed a trinket or a rune haha

[@tenveri]

@@Nglofc Oh yeah it's confusing haha

[@kennyyodune1727]

Damn this video. Now I have to level a rogue.

[@perp-]

ur welcome!

[@dookha9181]

Are you getting 3 cp Mutis in the vid, where you explain rotation?

[@RemotayDF]

honor among thieves procs on crits, party or not

[@dookha9181]

but its not in a party and on mutilate hit. looks more like seal fate @@RemotayDF

[@dookha9181]

unless you saying Honor Among Thieves procs off yourself? @@RemotayDF

[@RemotayDF]

@@dookha9181 it does

[@bristonwarren]

The rogue god has spoken!

[@Kamikaz0r]

may i ask why this belt and not defilers?

[@perp-]

cba doing ab and I want hit%

[@Kamikaz0r]

@@perp- thanks perp !

[@eibweNi]

gaming

[@9ntice]

I need to know how you deadlift with 3 legs

[@perp-]

rofl

[@pheijaumn]

Is "honor among thieves" rune working as you play solo?

[@perp-]

ya, procs on your own shit

[@Clawdite]

You can get +100 HP on both helmet andpants. Libram of Constitution

[@cameronmansfield9431]

Why carnage over unfair advantage? I dont bleed targets often because of gouge and blind

[@tenveri]

unfair advantage feels honestly quite meh so far. it would be nice if it gets a buff really

[@perp-]

UA has an icd and I feel like carnage is safer as a base for people not runeswapping

[@nilacof]

fire ass guide fr

[@alphabeta5593]

Markux from wwrmane?

[@worldofmorphcraft6588]

Could you explain why you take 7% hit isn't hit cap 5%?

[@perp-]

for longer fights in bgs, white hits are really good, plus counters defence

[@KazukiFuse99]

why u going for improved sinister strike? we dont use that at all

[@plvg_design]

it also reduces energy cost of quick shot

[@KazukiFuse99]

@@plvg_design ohh ok ty.

[@davidinman6020]

Step 1 auto follow someone during incursions pre exp / gold nerf. Step 2 reroll and make a shaman.

[@perp-]

rofl

[@-.-okay]

can we please get a perplexity equivilent content creator for warlock pvp...rogues on that unfair advantage with your content :'|

[@perp-]

haha

[@Stand4ndFight]

why you spend points on sinister strike when you use mutilate?

[@Wi-zd9zq]

Quick Draw benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.

[@RealTeeroh]

i dont understand why you take imp sinister if you use mutilate as your main damage

[@stevenox3383]

I believe this is b/c is also impacts your quick draw

[@myteamsupreme4348]

how did you get detect traps in classic ?

[@perp-]

imorph playkit macro

[@myteamsupreme4348]

@@perp- might be worth getting I spamm that shit in retail xd

[@maxfieldperkes4755]

What dagger is that that sheaths on your back?

[@perp-]

zg offhand morph

[@illtakethebox]

3:06 a visual on why I don't plan on resubbing

[@Smoakesy]

What is BIS race for alliance?

[@perp-]

gnome

[@polypom8453]

so when am i supposed to pop rupture?

[@perp-]

rarely ever

[@kafkatt4388]

phase 3 looks ait, letsgo

[@perp-]

yeah it's not bad so far

[@wavysinatra]

Mhmm carnage in the bracers instead of unfair advantage interesting. Was Using Unfair advantage to pair with my evasion

[@perp-]

safer

[@JoshuaM141]

My biggest fear is finding this guy in the open world and having me and the gear I put together because I think looks neat getting erased so hard my game uninstalls itself.

[@perp-]

ROFL

[@aaronmendoza1945]

my BiS is whatever I can get my hands on.....

[@brianwithwolves]

how did you fan of knives at 2:45

[@perp-]

imorph playkit

[@aggzzz]

why 2/2 in imp sinister strike if we dont use?

[@shuway9422]

I also thought it was a waste of 2 points

[@dingostar2620]

1:48 "This thing is ultra stupid" What thing? 😃

[@KyleKronch]

10% attack power is a bait talent?

[@perp-]

u get no imp sprint with that talent so ur dead to anyone with a braincell

[@-.-okay]

Bring back duel best of each class montages....

[@perp-]

someday..

[@michaelweaver5218]

i meaaaaan, i dont got time to sweat this hard brother. preciate the build though

[@perp-]

lol

[@johnwick9367]

God i wish these were slower and more in detail

[@epsnow6879]

y and how are you using fan of knives

[@perp-]

imorph playkit

[@gnarlicbread5140]

2:30 did that fucking trinket just proc from distract????? new meta???????

[@Haps_q]

it did. it is.

[@perp-]

bugged, 100% chance

[@Naitamaso]

wat trinket is it?

[@Eraldos]

@@perp- did the proc rate / no break get fixed ? cant find anything

[@gnarlicbread5140]

@@Eraldos proc rate appears to be lower now, no longer procs from random shit, still doesn't break on dmg

[@danielnator123456]

Noob question: How do I obtain the goblin engineer stuff when I chose gnomish engineering?

[@perp-]

www.wowhead.com/classic/news/new-engineering-questline-in-season-of-discovery-learn-opposite-specialization-338567

[@geog26]

1:50 what is that?

[@tarbobenjoyer]

torment darkmoon card

[@user-od9eq3wh2o]

Font for numbers ?

[@perp-]

NiceDamage

[@user-od9eq3wh2o]

Is ist an addon ? Or is the font called nicedamage found nothing on dafonts

[@huperftw]

How mutilate gives 3 cp?

[@perp-]

honor among thieves

[@Jbarish]

please make a video about dueling as rogue, i smoke everyone in world pvp but theyre all pve gamers. soon as i start dueling real pvp players rogue feels so weak

[@crapytan9468]

How busted is rogue this phase?

[@perp-]

C tier into good players, A tier into noobs