Sodapoppin Reacts to Riot's NEW MMO

[@JayIngemar]

As a huge League lore nerd it was fun to see Soda’s reaction to how vast and detailed this universe is

[@猫踏んじゃった-r5w]

Yep same. The universe is really good and the lore is getting better and more fleshed out.

[@HyenDry]

RIOT retconned a ton of old lore for this very purpose. I think they'll surprise us all with an Alpha or Beta test sooner than we think.

[@akiranosome918]

@@HyenDry yea they talk about development a lot, so maybe it'll be in 2023 even

[@fudgestick1534]

I LOVE LORE Batchest 🤓

[@Cerenduil]

Lore in Moba's.... Aware

[@Hayonhead]

As someone who is really deep into LoL lore seeing people suddenly realise that this silly game that the Arcane is based off has such an expanding history within itself is so satisfying

[@NetSraC1306]

"Urgot has a dark and unknown past" was my favourite lore to this date

[@gazetinhagames]

Touch Grass

[@Hayonhead]

@@gazetinhagames what does that statement bring to this thread

[@gazetinhagames]

@@Hayonhead some nature

[@Hayonhead]

@@gazetinhagames rules of nature And they run when the sun comes down With their lives on the line ALIVE

[@FreddRob99]

I dont like LoL and MOBAS in general but the set up for the world and lore look amazing this could definitely be an amazing game if the game mechanics are done right

[@Stozeel]

Yeah, there's so many people that have no idea how deep the lore goes and just think League is just the MOBA and nothing else

[@ColorsAndStuff]

I can't picture them messing it up too badly. They sat on League for 11 years before releasing any follow up products.. and imo they are all high quality and introduce a refreshing take on their respective genres. Look at Legends of Runeterra, Valorant, Arcane, and Ruined King.

[@ItsMe-bt4tm]

no one likes LoL but we are addicted

[@nawdawg4300]

I've been enthusiastically anti-lol/moba since 2012. Just wasn't a fan. However Riot's success is undeniable and they clearly have enough talent and money to produce a jaw dropping MMO. The thing that vanilla wow had over every new mmo is lore. Wow built on the years worth of Warcraft lore and developed it into a living world. Riot is in a similar position right now. They have a decade of LoL lore, including an Animated Show, to build upon. This video cemented that for me. This could be hype.

[@oddthemute6172]

Couldn't agree more OP.

[@Necrit]

Oh, hello!

[@phagosaur]

big dubs

[@GeneralGrizzy]

Legend has arrived

[@IGniTo100]

The legend himself

[@aquasnippy]

Yo!

[@SmartyMcSmartsen]

Necrit never disappoints with lore videos. He became the lore god. Really well made video and thank you that you put it together for people who are not into the lore

[@talisredstar1543]

Those soldiers following Lux and Garen are the Crownguard troops, they are lead by Lux and Garen's family As their last name is Crownguard. So they are loyal to the Name, and after Lux just saves them, I imagine most men of honor would not rat out Lux to the King. That I believe is a paraphrase of what happens there.

[@gusto401]

I've played LoR, LoL, and watched a lot of their lore shows and comics. The world is so massive, it's going to be great to see what they can do with a massive budget.

[@idontcare9041]

It's insane. I played LoL like over 10 years ago and knew there was lore... but not this much. Whoever made this deserves massive credit. I don't know why they made it except for "well it's kinda cool and we want to" and I really like that. I actually think Riot has a pretty good track record of managing their games well and Valorant was a entirely different genre too and it's a massive success so these are all really good signs. I'm cautiously excited for this.

[@magkill69]

massive budget goes to making animations and world look great not really the gameplay and other aspects of the game.

[@zzxxccvv01]

@@idontcare9041 well the "10 years" mark doesn't really matter because they retconned the story in like season 6 or 7

[@taz_trader]

@@idontcare9041 One of the biggest games in the world for a reason, im sure they built it with passion and knew that if they fleshed out every little detail to why everything matters in their game, that theyd see success and enjoy it themselves. The MMO is going to be insane. Biggest budget possible, fully fleshed out world with over 140 champions who can have their own entire questline/story; stemming into full expansions and stories within zones while adding more to the lore.

[@idontcare9041]

@@taz_trader I don't think the average league player cares about the story, that's all. I think out of all the MMOs in recent years Riot has the best chance of succeeding... but it's also a really difficult genre so we'll see. I don't know how they could tie all the champs into a MMO world... I'm very interested in what the quests and main story are gonna be like

[@mep1455]

I hope they make this a lore rich mmo and very immersive

[@chilwil07]

League isn’t very lore rich so I hope so

[@beycr35]

@@chilwil07 ?

[@realkesii]

@@beycr35 thats my profile pic

[@timmyotoole6063]

@@chilwil07 you jest?

[@doroza2lol]

The lore is only interesting when its based of each individual character, i find it super wierd when you have like mix culture lore based games. A lil bit of weapons a lil bit of anime a lil bit of knights. Its just wierd. WOW panda is prime example why it was super wierd, this one will be on same level.

[@zack01598]

I feel the same way as Chance. If this won't end up being good (although I'm fairly confident it'll be amazing) then MMO'S have no chance. Unless there is some new technology that would significantly increase development speed (which is the bane of most MMO's and why they feel lacking. Simply because of the sheer size of one)

[@Cerenduil]

MMO's died the moment developers aproach the genre to be and feel like Mobile Games. Last hope is Wow recovering somehow (very unlikely), FFXIV and Ashes of Creation perhaps doing what MMORPG's must do: Be a RPG with online function and no stores, P2W stupid stuff, disgusting microtransactions, NFT's, etc.

[@GymWorkoutsF1]

@@Cerenduil Ashes has been in “kickstarter” mode for nearly a decade now, their game feels like a scam at this point

[@iArcanex]

@@GymWorkoutsF1 At least with the game there is a greater degree of confidence that it'll amount to something compared to other scamstarters especially with the amount of user-facing results we've seen today. But yeah don't get your hopes up cause it's ambitious af. That game could still be in development for another decade and I'd still be skeptical of a production release with all the features solidly delivered as promised.

[@alexs29]

Depends, if it just ends up being another boring WoW then yeah, it doesn't deserve to have a chance. At the very least, it will likely be F2P but not P2W...

[@MrKob20]

@@GymWorkoutsF1 keep hating from outside the club

[@Mythril_Clips]

the reason the foundation is so strong is because for the first 10 years of league when they dropped a new character they would also drop a multi page essay with lore and motivations about the character. the world and lore was built 1 character at a time and put on a back burner for the right time.

[@gampie13]

they started doing that after a shit load of players started sending letters and emails asking about the backround and lore around all their characters, so they kinda just adapted realy well, and started writing a shit load off lore, and over 7-9 years, they have stockpiled a HUGE ammount of worldbuilding and lore, so they have a simmilar situation to the foundation of wow, wich was built on the lore off warcraft

[@joakimjohnsson1020]

@@gampie13 yoyo, the Warcraft universe was created before there was even internet bascially. Relax, no reason to compare the two, no game will have u as hooked as WoW. OW have dont ma very good job aswell.a

[@InanisNihil]

​@@joakimjohnsson1020 bro stop.. most of wows stuff is from books by Tolken and others.. they by themselves revisioned all these mythological things that WOW had today.. "no reason to compare the two" WHILE U LITERALLY MADE THAT COMPARISON.. are you dumb..? its like hitting someone then saying lets not hit each other.. fking stupid i swear xD fyi: WOW WAS A AAA COMPANY and it had CABLE TV and all of use in back then watch cable tv and all we saw was WOW MARKETING AND ADVERSTISIN with ZERO COMPATITORS cause they were all tiny game studios.. LETS NOT IGNORE THAT...!!! wow blew up cause of MARKETING .. right time the right place.. and the MONEY TO DO SO.. and thats why it literally as we all know.. just took ideas and concepts for literally all the other games that didnt have the fortune to compete with a massive AAA company... LETS NOT PRETEND WOW is "original" lmao 1995 was when the internet became baiscally popular.. this is when it became commercialized.. blizzard was founded in 1991.. internet was founded in 1983.. it just wasnt commercialized there is NO WAY THEY DIDNT HAVE AND USE THE INTERNET STUPID... just cause u grew up broke and had to ask ur dad to use the one pc in the house to get on the net for like 1hr at time.. in no way means these companies werent already connected sharing info with each other... 😂 so i call horseshit and im ded ass to ur face calling u a damn liar.. lmao

[@dominicc4543]

They are smart for waiting this long, they’ve been changing the lore to match this for so long, glad it’s coming together

[@harrisongoudappel2942]

Seeing Necrit finally get some light shed on his channel from other content creators is amazing, I love this dude, he's dedicated so much of his life to League of Legends' amazing and in-depth lore that barely anybody knows about.

[@Raezra]

I've been keeping up with the lore for a few years now, ever since they did that big overhaul. And I'm so excited for the MMO. I would love for soda to look at more lore videos on league, but I really wish Necrit had covered all the Demons, Darkin, Gods, and Celestial Beings in more depth, as I think those are some of the most compelling creatures in the lore (for me at least).

[@khareckless6769]

i mean he has and all of his vids are 20 mins +. He can't possibly cover it all in a vid that is targetted to ppl who probably never read league lore

[@lunariaflora]

when was the overhaul done?

[@rumcais6234]

@@lunariaflora 2018 onward

[@alonnie1919]

Necrit did mention that the lore was too much for the video. The video was made so people who are unfamiliar with the lore could see why the MMO could be successful and if they were interested, to check his channel for deeper lore.

[@JayStorm199]

@@rumcais6234 it's 2014 or 2015

[@christiandiaz]

You gotta admit, Riot makes amazing games and has a track record for making high quality, polished F2P games. Looking forwards to their MMO as well as their fighting game.

[@TheDarkstar3601]

I agree

[@yimpyoi9808]

yeah i would agree excluding leagues balance and new champion design teams, the game has a phenomenal group of people behind it. the lore, art, cosmetics, community management, esports are all top tier. LoR, Ruined King, and valorant have all been extremely well received too.

[@kushin5212]

you don't mind that it's probably going to be in isometric perspective like lost ark? For me, it kills the sense of freedom in the game.

[@makenziehoff4551]

@@kushin5212 where did they confirm it was going to be isometric?

[@swipefn1931]

@@makenziehoff4551 It won't be. I'm like 95% sure lmao. That would kill all sense of exploration feel and they know no one would enjoy it.

[@Some_Awe]

the reason this mmo is exciting for me, i never had the lore of warcraft by the time wow was big, i played diablo a bit but otherwise i wasnt within that culture. i played league and runescape in their infancy, ive been with them in the same way warcraft players were introduced to wow, i have an emotional connection to a lot of these characters and this world, even though i stopped playing league well over 5 years ago, this connection is still there, and being an mmorpg player at heart, this game is gonna be big for me. for a while i didn't understand why people wouldnt let go of so many mistakes the blizzard devs were making with wow, i kind of understood my loyalty to runescape when jagex made some big mistakes. but nothing compares to how i will eventually feel if riot messes up this mmo a couple years down the line. i trust them not to but i finally understand the similarities between these franchises and their upcoming. this will not be the wow killer, because wow is dead, and i dont mean the game, i mean the excitement behind whats to come. This game will be a reflection of the joy people felt back in the day, a new seedling for the next era of mmo's

[@vertshus7620]

yep same, i missed the wow arc for gamers :(

[@MushMunkey]

Its funny I'm watching someone react to something I'm excited about and you playing that small tidbit from the Warrior cinematic still gives me chills. Lux summoning Galio a sleeping statue that only she could communicate with is just sick. "The statue’s greatest hope is to be blessed by a magic so powerful that he will never be forced to sleep again."

[@Vincentpanh]

Her personal gundam

[@TheMadMedek]

This is the first MMO I’ve seen since 14 and Lost Ark to say. This is gonna be a big thing. They have the world and lore. No doubt the visuals. It’s all gonna be down to gameplay. I hope it has a good social interaction Not all fighting

[@dshizznitrb3]

lost ark has gameplay but a shitty story and really crap player interaction

[@discoduck488]

people underestimate league's lore cause the actual game is a shithole , but as a lore enjoyer myself trust me its one of the greatest lores in gaming history i'd say

[@naevan1]

what 🤣🤣🤣

[@JayIngemar]

True. Although I enjoy the MOBA game the lore and worldbuilding are some of the best ones out there!

[@KromgashTheImpaler]

thgis is true, the trailers for league made me wanna play, which is the inherit problem with trailers for these games, they dont prepare you for how shit MOBA gameplay is

[@Rakkoonn]

It's hard to like the lore as an older player because they retconned so often it's difficult to know what is still cannon.

[@Gomace]

The game is crisp clean. It's the balancing and how matchmaking games are in and of themselves that is bad. I don't think I've played a single other online game, except WoW, that matches Leagues mechanical flow and responsiveness.

[@RippednBuff]

An MMO that actually has a chance to be good. Remain skeptical my friends, we have seen this wayyy to many times.

[@fadoxmeister1212]

Cautiously optimistic my friend

[@manquito4216]

riot is insanely good at making succesful games so its okay to be very optimistic, unlike aoc that looks very clunky and will most likely be a new word v2

[@poggers4392]

Riot is known for making incedibly f2p friendly games and gaslighting their fans into buying shit skins. They will be fine with gameplay and monetization

[@Grumpypu]

@@manquito4216 no matter how much I want to like AoC, the game was just doomed from the start, as they want to make an old school type MMO, which lets be real, isnt going to work in 2030 or whenever they release the game. Doesnt matter how much people want the game to succeed, its gonna be hype for 2 weeks and then nobody will talk about it.

[@medcon_]

difference is riot isnt a indy company anymore and they did a good job with valorant arcane league, im cautious ofc but still looking forward. riot hasnt made an L yet for me

[@joongiYT]

20:08 A lot of people really don't pay attention to League's lore but Riot has made such an amazing work with it that is actually crazy, I'm in love with League's lore I think is one of the best lores ever made, at least for videogames

[@thedavyjones7177]

I've been trying for a long time to find an mmo to get into and actually invest myself. Never really found it but this is something that gives me hope

[@ajz2436]

gives you hope after 5 years when it launches

[@thedavyjones7177]

@@ajz2436 exactly it’s like a dream rn

[@callmehypee1436]

same man. I was too young for the glory days of all the great mmos. Didn’t have money for monthly subscriptions for wow. Now i’m ready to commit all my free time to a new mmo. The last like 6 years i’ve been waiting for my game to drop.

[@haytamhaytam7227]

@@ajz2436 it could be way less. they started working on it since 2018 and they wont hype it up if its near completion its possible it may get released in 2024 or 2025

[@Siegram999]

@@haytamhaytam7227 I dont mind waiting waiting 6 years if it means it will give me atleast 1 year worth of joy that alone would be a good page of my life i can look back at.

[@Zixxyz]

its gonna be so fucking cool playing this game getting to fight champs at their proper canonical size n shit. like imagine fighting raid boss Aatrox and hes fucking MASSIVE like he should be, that shit sounds nuts

[@battlebots1]

I wanna shit myself seeing Naut rise from the ocean. His LoR art is badass.

[@mexcellent227]

I didn't even think about league champs being bosses in the new mmo until just now. Shit just got real.

[@bullettime1116]

@@battlebots1 imagine your fighting malphite and the intro is just him getting up and knocking the whole raid group aside. He is litteraly the size of a mountain

[@Skindred727]

@@bullettime1116 They aren't going to do this cause they are too clever. As soon as you start facing mountains/gods there is no higher ceiling for you to fight. Look at WoW, and look at the problems Marvel are facing now. Riot know they can't cap out the threat and have everyone be walking gods who become laghably stronger than the monsters they are facing. The bosses will be very basic for the first 10 years of release. As soon as it's enemies as significant as malphite or aurelion sol there is nothing left to keep interest

[@bullettime1116]

@@Skindred727 eh, I'm mean that's true but malphite could hardly be considered end end game like the void or asol

[@Pandamonium626]

Ah, yes, the curse that is new MMO's: you get all excited for it and then realize it won't be out for several more years. * cough * Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen * cough *

[@Lahnslide]

I'm down to try it. Arcane was pretty entertaining, so at least we know those guys can tell a decent story when they put the right people on it. They just need to nail the combat and world design without failing massive technical aspects like New World did.

[@chrisc2577]

6ish years ago Riot basically said "Our lore and world sucks. Let's rebuild it from scratch". And that's what they did, literally wiping all lore form the start of the game up until that point. Then, character by character, zone by zone, they re-wrote and re-invented it. The result was used as inspiration for all of their games, media(arcane), advertisements(star guardian), and this upcoming MMO. Was a pretty good decision honestly.

[@trythis2006]

i always thought they just put some little lore behind each character and that was it but never thought it was that insane

[@NetSraC1306]

They scrapped and rewrote it multiplte times, starting out just like you said

[@The-Akkaro]

there are few characters that have little lore but its so much better now than it was before

[@wabbajack8283]

There is still some champions with little to no lore like Shaco but that's just a few among the 160 characters with fleshed out stories.

[@arugula517]

@@wabbajack8283 shaco just doesn’t exist

[@raulsauceda7392]

It started that way. Over the years it's gone through many rewrites and retcons, slowly building up to where it is now.

[@RUSHFROG]

grew up playing league, great world great lore and great game love my addiction to league and glad u are now also playing league ty soda

[@adandhel2291]

I think soda should start by playing ruined king, to get a bit of a feel for the world, even though it's limited to Bilgewater and the shadow isles.

[@stylishskater92]

It looks lovely, but i just cant stand turn based combat games.

[@MorrokWoW]

9:53 that must be one of the first drafts of Tirisfal glades/Silverpine forrest/lordaeron. This was cool to see especially in a non wow video where people may not notice that kind of detail!

[@maximuswillcarry]

I like how soda's chat was all batchesting league at the start but as the video went on every single one of them knew the champions names like they are pretending like they dont play lmao

[@JustAJauneArc]

Honestly, everyone under the Riot banner has shown a level of competence that, where it stands now, is kind of kicking everyone else's asses in the industry. Their games, their videos, their TV series, their world and lore all have a level of care and depth that really set them apart from anyone else that's on their playing field. I hope they keep it up, understanding that there's no better guarantee of profit than a quality product well made. They've shown to be masters of it.

[@forsaturn4629]

They even have their own music lol

[@90bubbel60]

yep shooter-check lore-super check art design-super check tv series-super check moba-check isometric adventure-check card game-check

[@Unintelligentful]

I just realised that the guy playing teemo toplane last game just killed the GOD of the Freljord by himself 10 times.

[@yesno8588]

I want AoC to do well of course, but if it doesn't this mmorpg will be my last hope as well. Their lore and world is flushed out so well but it'll come down to the combat / gameplay.

[@svenningen]

I keep seeing AoC and thinking "but Age of Conan tanked years ago"

[@ThePlinto]

It will do good I belive. Just look at everything overall and it already is pretty well as on Alpha 1.

[@JesiAsh]

AoC have a brand problem... I am an MMO player and I dont even know what it is... I thought that you are talking about Amazons MMO (that will fail too). Good MMO have to start with some bacground - WoW started with Warcraft lore, SWTOR have Star Wars, ESO have Elder Scrolls and FF14 have Final Fantasy. Its fine if someone launches a game without knowledge (I play FF14 without any prep) but you also need some fans to start with! Amazon released some controversial bullshit where americans are fighting indians with some random fantasy background and they hope to to achieve something with it... not gonna happen. Ashes of Creation? Game will die before someone will hear about it just what happened to Wild Star that was actually a very good game (shitty studio and shitty background - dead). Its enough for star wars to release a movie for subs in SWTOR to rise. Riot will make another anime and subs will rise. Games without background have to carry their shit alone.

[@ThePlinto]

@@JesiAsh AoC media are already bigger than some of games you mentioned, even on youtube. They dont have history, right, but in 7 years of development they gained many trust. The fact that you or your circle of friend didnt hear about it doesnt mean that game is unknoen to bigger audience.

[@lnlsun]

@@ThePlinto Still cannot be compared to preexisting IP. Warcraft, Elder Scrolls, etc have existed for so long they're even known by non-gamers. AoC does not have that going for it no matter how much marketing they do.

[@BruceMacGoose]

What's funny, is he forgot the yordles. There's EVEN MORE LORE. There's like a whole other ass fucking realm.

[@OneRageyBoii]

as a league player and league lore enjoyer, i pray this will be good, and i cant wait to have a pet poro xD

[@wex2808]

no games killed wow, wow killed itself

[@Sephiroso.]

WoW's last expansion was the most sold expansion it's had to date.

[@NoConsequenc3]

@@Sephiroso. holy shit the delusion

[@Brosyphus]

@@Sephiroso. You realize that the population of gamers as well as the cost of development have increased drastically right? "More numbers!" doesn't mean a game is thriving or even doing well. Such a simple concept that a comment like yours shows a huge lack of critical thinking.

[@corpsemcgee578]

WoW's content was actually decent this expansion, but they took too long between patches and everyone lost interest. They also rushed 9.2's storyline. However, I enjoyed the gameplay and thought the pvp was fun, and covenants were cool once they got rid of conduit energy and made them easier to swap. Most people didn't give the expansion a chance because it understandably took too long for updates.

[@SatansRoyalBoner]

@@NoConsequenc3 I mean, he's not wrong?

[@garreonlefay6703]

One thing that Necrid didn't mention about Demacia.....the entire city could turn into a Bomb. Demacians don't know this, but the Petricite Trees, and thus all buildings in Demacia, have a limit on how much magic they can absorb and thus, how much magic they can, safely, store. If it overloads, the material explodes. Also, the trees have stopped growing so the material will end up becoming rare, which will cause problems, since all of Demacia depends on those trees for....well more or less everything.

[@GhostoftheTenthEye]

i love the universe of league. HATE the fucking moba. so anything outside that will be pretty cool

[@RadialSeeker113]

Be an Aram warrior. It's more fun. The game is too reliant on your teammates being somewhat sane.

[@kyin45]

@@RadialSeeker113 Arams require your team to be more sane to win, I have a 68% WR on summoners rift and a 30% winrate in arams because people just turn their brains off. Don't be an Aram warrior, Don't play league at all lol

[@DakotaZ162]

@@RadialSeeker113 love aram also helps you learn more champion kits as a season 4 warrior coming back to the game now I have no idea what's going on rather learn in a more friendly environment like aram than 5v5 where every little mistake is like you shot their mother

[@bramt2000]

@@RadialSeeker113 It may be difficult, but I only play with parties of 5 premades makes communicating way better

[@mep1455]

Same. I like the franchise but the MOBA is burnt out for me

[@Noimnotathing]

As someone who has always immersed themself deep into league lore, it was truly a hilarious and fun experience to see someone outside of it react to it for (basically) the first time. Thanks soda

[@F4rva]

I love lore like this. I knew a little bit of it on my own, but watchin this was way cool. Like with Lissandra, I kinda just saw her as a mage to play, but her story is really cool.

[@duphasdan]

Piltover and Zaun would make for a great starting location since both are centrally located, and are large in size. Each would be a place for players starting depending on whether they want to play a good or evil faction. As for the other areas, the entirety of each area need not be unlocked immediately. It could be like with Elder Scrolls Online where each region would be split into various sections with each opening up over time. And the micro regions would be like smaller dlc's in their own right. Another benefit of PIltover and Zaun being good starting locations would be that the area, being centrally located, would have a collection of every race, faction, and playable class type being represented in one form or another. And the familiarity of the show with other people that have watched it would help with sells, or those getting the game would be inclined to watch the show.

[@Navhkrin]

I know this has been said like 100 times in the past but LoL is the first real contender to take WoW's place. What made WoW so good was that they started already from a universe with shit ton of lore. Its contenders - GW2, WildStar, ESO neither had as big lore as Warcraft. ESO could have been a lot more successful though had they not fucked up its combat system. Not only Runeterra has shit ton of established lore, but it is also being funded by one of the richest gaming studios that already has absurdly big dev team with multiple international studios allready to pump content into LoL MMO.

[@swipefn1931]

it's going to be insane, can't wait. Riot are really the ones to make it happen. I can't be too biased, but- ah fuck it. Riot's MMO will be incredible.

[@nicholatemple9296]

Everyone knows the hardest part of making an MMO is the lore....

[@GrooveSpaceArk]

This but unironically.

[@nerulon089]

To be fair, Wow is not the best MMO for a long time now, just the most known.

[@TheRealNastyy]

Na even in its worst state its far better than all the others

[@mnamethonk]

@@TheRealNastyy That would be OSRS.

[@Grumpypu]

@@TheRealNastyy depends on taste. Personally, I dont like shit.

[@christianseiders6197]

@greenismycolor I mean, people like wow so :shrug:

[@soffman851]

Nah wow is still the best what else woud it be lol

[@heavengatlin4883]

So in the Music Video Rise, by League of Legends, I just realized that HUGE mountain that they scaled was this one that was pulled up from the ground. Makes sense why Ryze and Jarvan were at the top and why it is a battle to the death

[@Targetdh]

That was a reference to the 2017 World Championship, Ambition's iconic champ was J4 and Faker's at the time was Ryze, the mountain is the grind to the top were the demon king (Faker) rules and Ambition's cause is to dethrone him (SSG vs SKT) and he succeeded. SSG defeated SKT and ended their dynasty of 3 times world champions, that's the context behind Rise.

[@heavengatlin4883]

​@@Targetdh I appreciate the reference help. Thanks!

[@hugheszie]

“The devs should support players having fun” *blizzard has left the chat*

[@tienyabut2152]

OK that physics teacher sounds like a homie if he's debating his students about sowtr

[@khareckless6769]

i've been following league lore for 4-5 years now and it always looked like a perfect setting for an mmo. The game will work no doubt, but balancing everything has always been a riot issue. See you in 7 years

[@wabbajack8283]

They only have a problem balancing League because of its sheer size of roster and items throughout the years. Their other games are fine like LoR, Valorant and TFT.

[@khareckless6769]

@@wabbajack8283 I can't really talk about lor since I haven't played much, but tft has it's history of 1 single comp being broken or borderline unbeatable and valorant can't be by nature unbalanced since it's a shooter but weapons do need tweaking and agents are broken if you got mediocre aim and others are just bad (chamber on the former, cypher on the latter)

[@Tonaiis]

Niceee it finally got uploaded! Like the reaction because I'm a huge fan of the lol Lore, hopefully asmon reacts too it to! But it will prob take awhile :( Ty for the video!

[@kaniller4969]

Honestly I think LOL will benefit from moving to a MMO world. Now the backstories of the characters literally don't matter. But in a MMO with a storyline etc the player will actually care about the story

[@TankManHeavy]

Aurelion Sol is inconceivably large, he makes galaxies for fun.

[@BlobfishMan8490]

16:52 League has multiple Major world ending threats already established: The Old Shuriman Empire: The recently awakened ascended emperor wanted to make his long-deceased empire great again. It is unclear what he wants to do, but he might want to reclaim his empire, which used to span the entire world. The Dath realm: Mordenkaiser and his army of the dead wait to claim the mortal realm once more. Sealed away under the immortal bastion, the seal was part of his master plan, so it wouldn't surprise me if it broke out. Demons: There are also demons, born out of humanity's fears? emotions? not sure, but clearly they do not have good intentions. There's a hypothesis to be 10 primal demons; so far, we know 2: Joy and Fear, and it seems they do not die. The Darkins are corrupted ascended warriors who wish to destroy the world. Shuriman's (mentioned above) armies of half-god warriors went mad after the death of the emperor. Each is capable of single-handedly defeating an army. They are led by Aatrox, the Darkin General, who literally killed a God (Celestials). They are sealed away in their weapons, but they start waking up. The Celestials: Speaking of Gods, they aren't all that friendly to Humans either. However, they are hinted to be unreliable and may become enemies if their interests stop aligning with the rest of the world. The World Runes: Powerful Runes, each capable of mass destruction Capable of destroying cities and kingdoms in one hit. That's the weapons that caused Demacia to turn into what it is. Also, what gave Heimerdinger PTSD in Arcane. Currently, it is mainly sealed away in good hands, but the situation can change. The Void: an immaterial outside of reality, filled with things akin to the watchers. A rift sealed the old Shuriman empire south of Ikathia. They want to destroy the world, and they clearly have the power to do so. A Sol: The Celestials tricked a star-forging celestial dragon into servitude. But their control over him is wyaning. If he does get freed, he will destroy the celestials alongside the planet the LOL plot is happening on. So, I mean, they have 8 relatively independent world-ending plotlines. That is discounting the region-ending plot threads (at least one for each region, usually more) that are floating around in the League Lore. If they resolve 1 of the region ones every year and the world ones every two years it can probably last them 20 years, maybe more.

[@saint2669]

How soda just instantly connected the dots on the league cinematic at 8:40 was a sight to behold. 5head play

[@LunatiqHigh]

The Mages in Demacia would probably start out very much like Sylas, working to escape, find freedom, be extremely powerful users. My bet is that you're going to start from, but you won't live there or at least at the center, but more along the outskirts.

[@thunderh0rse961]

Morde being a raidboss would be so insane

[@JN19153]

I think the whole thing with demacia and mages is like say the mage uses fireball or something the enemy will take like 10% reduced damage and it won’t have a burn effect I think that’s keeping the immersion and it’s not effecting the players too much

[@minartson]

That makes sense because that's how it really works in lore, the trees don't completely absorb magic, they absorb some and weaken it. That's also how Lux can use magic.

[@xTorre]

was a really good video, but i cant comprehend what made this guy go for his outfit of giant league cap, hs shirt and pyjama pants and then also go out of his way to blend himself in full body like wtf

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

I really want Asmon to watch that video

[@taleaxe1397]

Will prob take awhile before he reacts to it :(

[@ramencakes5196]

He would love noxus

[@taleaxe1397]

@@ramencakes5196 GigaChad Noxus

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

@@taleaxe1397 Did not take that long :D

[@euronico7949]

Aint no way you're spending thousands of hours in WoW and call someone a nerd just no way in hell

[@brianheise]

Targon takes different lengths of time to climb based on who you are. Pantheon’s climb took weeks, Diana did it in a single night

[@nicks4914]

Ive played League for 10+ years and didnt realize how deep the Lore was. This will be awesome!

[@Shiftry87]

Just like any other Riot video Necrit did a lore review or what u wanna call it for this video 7:54 and in it he explained this Lux situation. Garen and Lux being siblings its a pretty safe bet that he knows that she is a mage and he is keeping it a secret. Lux was also 1 of few ppl that knew that Galio could even move. Also not every1 in Demacia is against magic so it wouldent be that far of a stretch for Garen to have soldiers around him that wouldent kill mages on sight given that hes sister Lux is a mage. Necrit went abit deeper into the lore to explain these things but that would be the short version. Its also a safe bet that the company of soldiers that Garen hade with him also knew that Galio could move becouse if this colossal statue suddenly drop down around u and u barely react to it u most definatly knew about it. Any other soldier would be scared shitless if this thing dropped down all around u if they dident already know about it.

[@sir_christopher_owls]

Ashes of creation is a game that will bring things to the table that no other mmo game will ever be able to in 20 years.

[@Chickensea10]

Cant wait to finally say some day, gonna go raid in the void and go do that darkin boss someday. It'll be a long time but it'll be worth the wait in the end! Can't wait for you guys to see all the cool characters and lore in league! Hope ya have a blast If you ever wanna look at some of the characters that will probably be in the mmo, check out legends of runeterra! I personally like involutous vox and his interactions with aurelion sol!

[@ItsAkile]

I'm not the WOW guy thats holding onto the glory days but Riot knows how to do things right, the MMO community and their expectations is a different story but I Know Riot would already know the beats they need to hit what ever is their goals. this might be my first MMO

[@hazarder707]

cant wait to grind this game

[@diefo]

@ibu suri4 Trueee

[@tacemiko3849]

If League of Legends game could be trash but lore of the game is god tier

[@Sinful_Solution]

If you think Galio is big take a look at Aurelion Sol. Aurelion Sol: Star Forger In the League of Legends universe, Aurelion Sol is regarded as the all creator and the all destroyer. The Star Forger has the power to create and destroy entire planets and universes, and he is the oldest and by far the most powerful entity in the entirety of the League of Legends roster. He's made up of universes

[@Thessaloz]

The map looks like half of Greece. And Ionia at the east is litterally the name of the Greek tribe Ionians that settles east of the modern day Greece :P It will be really funny to let us fight each other to climp the mountain and the winner will have extra powers for a month. And every month there would be an opening so we can start climping again. Clans will fight each other to let their members reach pantheon. Similar to Lineage2 Olympiad bu more chaotic.

[@georgetriantafyllopoulos3818]

if you wont have the option to play as the start zone 1 of nations then they will have the story progressing to go lvl (max-atmm-) and after that you will have the option to choose your faction but as leagues lore, you should be able to have many options even for race even for nation etc.

[@Renagade01]

"absorbs magic" so basically its more of a magic res item not a phenomenon that drains magic surrounding it, and yes there are actually magicians in Demacia

[@rrmmzzii]

hope that the mmorpg have side classes like fishing farming and blacksmithing being a blacksmith following ornn would be thrilling.

[@paveldavid7847]

if you move the letters in word "valoran" you get "valanor" from Tolkiens work

[@-CyberFrame]

It's 'Valinor' right?

[@christiandamayon2031]

i love how when noxus was featured the chat spams giga chad

[@eol251]

Chat spamming "Booba" every 3 second's explains Soda's fanbase from OTK.

[@zzrgrunt7450]

i really wish they would bring back the background story for champs like they did back in the day when you would hit C to see Champions Lore was so sick.

[@homeless_potato834]

Imagine for last raid boss you have to side with pantheon and fight Aatrox holy shit 💀💀

[@barahng]

League has years of lore and worldbuilding to build off of, it's kinda like when WoW came out in 2004 and had years of lore and unfinished storylines from Warcraft games to use as content in WoW. Edit: Then again, so did the Warhammer MMO and Age of Conan, both of which are significantly older than League and have more fleshed out universes just due to their age and the sheer amount of content that has been produced for them. It really comes down to implementation.

[@Absolyim]

I hope the movement is fluent.. most important part in any game

[@lilstubbs9553]

20:07 "I didn't realize that fucking League had such a strong foundation!"

[@monkman8884]

ty for the video, great thumbnails btw :)

[@Shiby23]

3:40 OMFG the asmongold shot was fking FIRED from a SNIPER RIFLE!!!

[@joaofernandes5254]

i don't think they'll make yordles a playable race, right after the release of vex we got some insight on them that make the race seem a little too powerful to be playable, its like we are playing as a living magic spirit

[@MyChunkyGoose]

When talking about fighting the Void Walkers and relating to the Old Gods in WoW it makes me think how I might prefer an MMO that doesn't last "forever." I think I'd prefer a ~10 year long MMO that tells a compelling story over that course of a handful of expansions and then just ends after an epic conclusion. I don't want to get to the point where the devs have to develop around power creep and start retconning the story to make new content. After the ending the devs can focus on building up a new story or an entire new world. Good things shouldn't last forever, and when they try to they sour.

[@solodrow4004]

As a wow classic enjoyer and FFXIV hater I got to say I actually like the way this game looks and will 100% give it a try I will always love WoW but if I could get a better experience in another mmo I would leave all my achievements and mounts behind for it.

[@arthurnikiforck7954]

The thing that make me want the riot mmo is the f2p friendly their games have

[@brianheise]

Urgot is a Noxian Badass mixed up with Zaun Chem Barons

[@PseudocoreERKO]

This seems more promising than i imagined. But i disagree with soda that ashes will flop. The recent gameplay showcases seems very promising and combat seems good imo

[@taz_trader]

If you like league and interested in the lore look at Fiddlesticks lore. It's fucking crazy. I hope that all champions have some sort of sidechain/questline where you learn about them.

[@surreal9558]

cant wait for the mmo, probably gonna be a freljord character, and definetely making an ionian if its an expansion

[@cazzenova9286]

All those years ago, I really felt like Wildstar could have been a great addition but didn't make the splash it needed, except for its artstyle/world. Sadge

[@zearcjustice7837]

everything has been layout for them , as a ex wow players this bring tear to my eyes ; their record of game updates and respecting the community is what old blizzard used to be . But not kings rule forever , it's time for them to step down and handed over the crown or what left of it

[@ethanalspencer7294]

I hate league but I genuinely unironically love its world and universe. It started as just 'pop fantasy greatest hits' but they've actually done a lot to like, properly blend that into a cohesive world. So you get all the benefits of a D&D type universe where there are simultaneously ninjas and knights and steampunk snipers while ALSO having it all have a lot of backstory and explanation as to why it's like that.

[@adnankeskic6521]

There are rn around 160 Champions in Leage of Legends that you can play. Every single champ has its own story and lore. Riot Games has a base to create an amazing mmo.

[@Ragemonster69420]

This is looking like it can possibly be an amazing game

[@airrogue4428]

As a guy with 5k hours in dota and who loves mmos I can say that I really like lol lore, it has so much work put into it, while dota lore is pretty much non existing. Really waiting for this game, I hope they don’t fk it up)

[@amouramarie]

YES, thank you - I just really cannot understand why anyone thinks Ashes of Creation is going to do well. It's gonna tank WORSE than New World, guaranteed. If Riot gets this MMO off the ground, I could see it doing well. Ghostcrawler was good for WoW (despite the fact that angry nerds blame any forward-facing employee for all of the game's ills), and I'm sure he'll do great for Riot's MMO. I wish them well, and though I've never played LoL, I will definitely try out the MMO when it makes it to release.

[@L3AF]

this video was really satisfying to watch i did not know league had so much lore. i dont like league as a game personally but this lore slaps.

[@FirelordTwinkyz]

tbh i dont think anything will "take over WoW" at this point, its been a power house for so long and to many people are viciously addicted considering how shit it is now and yet everyone still plays it. most MMOs are over hyped by streamer/content creators that will grind it for a couple weeks while the views are good and viewers will follow them all just to stop playing at the same time....remember new world? yeah i dont either

[@limear]

nobody plays or cares about it anymore though

[@milescollins1764]

@@limear Just because the talking heads aren't playing it doesn't mean nobody is playing it. It's still the #1/#2 (depending on content releases) most played MMO in the world.

[@a.o.skurtt]

They really need to make a nice NEXT GEN star wars mmo, make it look great. I think some of the cool professions and non combat classes from star wars galaxies would be cool, droid maker, DNA pet maker, entertainer giving buffs, doctor healing people in town. It had so much good in it they just didn't know what to do with it back then. There's SO much they could do in the starwars universe

[@NoesKicker]

Riot has the funding and resources and is taking their time with this. All good signs. I honestly hope this game breaks through as one of the best MMOs ever. If it can replicate the same feelings for gamers that WoW initially did that would be amazing. Part of why wow was so amazing is the fact that it was a slow burn, and it was new to everybody. It still amazes me how high WoW set the bar 20 years ago for MMOs.