I Had to Settle the OnlyFangs Drama With Summit..

[@Micaias07]

Tyler1's clip was how I feel "He put 60hrs but cheated F@#$ his 60 hours"

[@Bigmack420]

Didn't watch the whole clip lol

[@PurpleLightningKing]

He also said after realizing the situation that it's hard.

[@Emulator833]

@@PurpleLightningKing He didnt realized the situation tho lol because of a dumbass chatter he thought Summit was saying the guy should have been giving a chance to keep his cahracter and gkicked or the content with the gurubashi arena, not realizing thats not Summit's position and the guy was actually given a choice.

[@Odyssey636]

​@PurpleLightningKing its not hard. He cheated kick em. summit deserves a kick too for being such a bich about it

[@Steak51430]

Ya but Tyler1 would be crying if he kept dying over and over. cus he wasn’t being healed by druids or other warriors flying into kill things. Tyler hasn’t had a good shot to prove himself either

[@tvpotchi]

But your honor my client spent 60 hours

[@drewjozz]

This argument is literally why people quit throne and liberty

[@CR00SWIJK]

@@drewjozz Throne is a shit mobile game.

[@__--_--_-----]

The punishment wasn't surviving for ten minutes in the arena... The punishment was DYING IN THE ARENA... The whole "survive for 10 minutes" was just for show. He cheated, and in lieu of being kicked, his character had to be killed. Pretty simple...

[@drewjozz]

@@CR00SWIJK nah it's gear gap pvp which some people like summit hates and others like soda enjoy

[@Xxxjoelh4xxx]

U mean he have a chance by doing the arena thing. It was cool because he had a chance but now that lvl 60 killed him its like ok why even do the arena then just makes it boring and no fun and rip 60 hours

[@yohan1207]

Well lets learn from this experience, next time someone cheats, no content. Just gkick.

[@drewjozz]

No just let zeroji makgora he's so cool 😂

[@poods.]

@@drewjozz yep just call the lapdog

[@disection-hk6yi]

Well this guild couldnt kill lowbie 30 mage without help of 60. So yeah I agree.

[@Seranuelian]

as it shouldve been

[@xeikai]

The rule was primarily created to stop viewers from giving these streamers gold and items and enchants that twink them out. The guy was using the AH as a bank cause he was running out of space. Sure, by the letter off the law he broke the rules. But he didn't violate the spirit of the rule. Murder is illegal, but if you kill someone in self defense you will get acquitted or have a lesser charge and the court will show sympathy. This was a good decision by Soda IMO. If he woulda gkicked this guy it woulda felt wrong imo.

[@VegaClemons]

Love that everyone forgets Sequisha was pretty much dead to the 34 lock and 37 warrior that was fighting him b4 Zeroji came in, he had no mana and just health potted with no CDs up. Wonder what wouldve happened if the 34 & 37 got the credit.

[@dat_man_lu]

That's why the zero kill steal was lame and why summit was saying he was trying to make it about him. It was already coming to a close but then they decided to gank him. That was why it was perceived as cheap. As a viewer I thought it was bs too. They squashed the fight.

[@rainbow5712]

@@dat_man_lu hard agree

[@VegaClemons]

@@dat_man_lu Ya i see how summit got the idea now. But I think thats why soda was trying so hard to emphasize that it was a troll race decision that zeroji kill him and not a dude wanting to become the MC of a event, i even remember vei and soda coming up with the idea getting on the zep to STV. I would've also loved for the trolls and zeroji to wait until the current fight with the 34 lock and 37 warrior to be over. Sequisha was probably dead there imo unless he got help. But in retrospect they are all in discord shouting and RPing at a event so kinda hard to organize and time it perfectly i guess.

[@SilhanGaming]

@@dat_man_lu If Zeroji didnt jump in Undeads would save Sequisha and Zeroji was aware of kill squad and Sardaco saying if zeroji goes in we go in and kill him he still went in ready to die its classic 3-4 lvl 40 jump on you they can kill you easy yet he still went in also check clip and general chat msg after he kill one of undeads - Last msg before dead INV TO ZEROJI KILL SQUAD :) it had so much more background and lore to the whole thing ppl making it about picturing Zeroji as bad actor in this whole is just clueless... btw Tactics of trolls lvl51 jumped in also and kil lfew ppl also it is Gurabashi after all who goes in gotta be ready to be dead.

[@zeekawesomecus917]

@@dat_man_lu I mean as a viewer I agree, it should have just ended with the 34 and 37 killing him. But from Summit's perspective I don't understand, especially when he keeps contradicting himself saying he both accepts the punishment given but also kept saying stuff like you took 60 hours of leveling time from him. Its either one or the other.

[@FawxyLawxy]

I like how Summit keeps calling Zeroji sweaty like fucking cheating in a video game isn’t the sweatiest shit of all time 😂

[@jg-jh3nt]

cheating brother? this is onlyfanz they only cheat... they had multiple hours in meets arguing how they arent gonna cheat this time for them to get view boxes as "tribute" every week.(granted its not really cheating but it is cheating to the rules they originally put down) singling out a cheater amongst cheaters is a joke. from SSF to GSF only guild to GSF with weekly streamer loot

[@lowfpsman]

Funny thing is... Cheating guy is a giant sweat and cause of summits defences, a lot of hate was brewing for him too... Cause before Soda had a talk with summit that dudes chat was ok. Soda wast managing his chat good, with words how its ok, he earned his penance and welcomed to guild again. But after summits shitshow...

[@jg-jh3nt]

on top of that hes also right that soda has the same toxic way of doing things... idk how many clips we have of soda yelling and raging and calling people retards and all other shit and trying to censor summits feelings of a person is hypocritical

[@KingKronaN]

oh yeah putting an item up for sale is definitely sweaty 🤣

[@Jake-bh4ph]

@@jg-jh3ntsummit can keep holding his L take

[@gRleF]

Sequisha's character was dead the moment he disabled the addon. Getting mad about how his character was removed is just getting mad about it for the sake of it. There was never supposed to be a chance that he could have kept his character in the guild. Summit also being surprised about "sending hate towards zeroji"? Dude, you are a huge streamer for how many years? If you go on rants about anything the people watching will pray your opinion to anyone and everyone. This aint rocket science

[@disection-hk6yi]

Using mailbox which is part of game is big nono but using p2w addons like rested xp is all good. Or how about using petriflasks in future which takes away challenge from hc. Also funny excuse after this fail guild couldn't manage to kill lowbie 30 mage. Yeah lets just put 60 dog to finish the job. Pathetic.

[@almedinradoncic3904]

lol sarthee did and got no punishment ..

[@Maverick2k]

Yet another cringe take from another of Soda’s little minions. “There was never supposed to be a chance he could have kept his character”, yet Soda gave him the chance to keep his character by surviving in the arena. Re-watch the stream and you’ll see Soda say words to the effect of; “we don’t know if he will die or if he will survive”, because chat were crying that he would probably survive and it’s not fair. So, Soda, being the executioner, judge and jury, SENT IN a level 60 to kill him (he didn’t just go in on his own free will). It ruined what was a really really funny and cool bit of content. I don’t even care about the guy who was killed, it’s a matter of the fact Soda claimed he had a chance, which he didn’t cuz he knew he was gonna send in the turbo-virgin to finish him.

[@tchzaelous8144]

​@@Maverick2k Yep. They dangled the carrot of not having to delete over his head, used him for the content, then did it anyway. Honor? Why not send a level 30 to kill him instead? Trolls are weakminded I guess.

[@KernelKross]

@@disection-hk6yi Cry about it

[@Soupreme2]

"yeah everyone involved is fine with it but did you think about me?"

[@deadlyhoneyduw346]

Great one!

[@EVANGELIU]

He's so mad because he thinks Zeroji made it all about himself. So Summit made it about himself instead EZ

[@Omaha18]

"So he made it about himself eh?" - he says, ironically making the entire situation about himself, because even Sequisha was fine with it and moved on immediately.

[@JustDan_777]

I didn't even watch it but summit should be able to chill when he hears "all of the trolls MADE Zeroji do it, it wasn't his choice"

[@robinschmitz9774]

Is summit like brain damaged?

[@DelkorYT]

Is Summit under the impression there are fair fights in Gurubashi? lmao

[@kickhacker]

Lol yeah, good point😅

[@savagelifestylenetworkbts]

He knows they're not fair. He saw the undead mage clapping cheeks.

[@semimad100]

yeah, its like summit is under the impression it was supposed to be a mak'gora. this was "enter the end of the shooting range with all your worst enemies holding guns and aiming at you for 10 minutes and if no one hits you in that time you get to live" this wasnt "lets have a fair duel to see if you get to live"

[@xOLLIEGRIND]

exactly this LOL

[@MrTonton1926]

@@semimad100 so my question is and will remain from this. IF nobody said anything to zeroji about jumping in. would he have jumped in? that should be the first question asked. if they would NOT have jumped in on their own then there is a problem. IF zeroji was jumping in on their own free mind and will then no problems. 2nd question i'd ask is, post a video of the chat FROM the moment the discusion started about the guy cheating and what should happen? again IF zeroji wasn't the first person to say about jumping in or even knowing about the event then there is the problem.

[@Xintho]

What's more sweaty. The guy who played legitimately and was the first to max level or the person who decided to cheat in a streamer event. Can't believe people believe the "bag space" narrative because he was selling individual items and not stacks.

[@foniks100]

He was selling items for 3g that was worth a few silver. Someone sniped him on AH to either give him money or get him kicked from the guild.

[@blooddazeddevil]

@@foniks100 nah you can just cancel the order and it goes straight to your bag people know hes characters name and people will spend a lot because muh streamer he left them on the ah for a reason

[@Xintho]

@@foniks100 did you see the items listed? Because all I see is multiple single Jade being sold. No idea how many items were posted so you can't guess the price on what his gold was before and after.

[@t0nje]

​@@foniks100kid, no one cant access the Ah from the Guild. You have to turn off the addon for that, how Daft are you

[@Damaxyz]

@@foniks100 lmao now it's SOMEONE ELSE's fault, holy sh*t you potato brains are amusing

[@Raku_Shiratori]

So the only options were. 1: Kill the character because the guy cheated. 2: KIck the guy out of the guild for cheating. 3: Give the guy a 1% chance at living in a spot where ANYONE ON THE SERVER can attack him. Who gives a fuck if its someone's hours spent. He signed up for the guild, he knew the rules, and he broke them. His ass was gas regardless. Summits take on this is stupid. It doesn't matter if its a veteran or a casual. You break the rules, your killing your character to stay in the guild or your being kicked. Period.

[@jacobsmith1544]

There was another option you're missing: •Delete all gold, gear, and take a cowards debuff He decided to take your 3rd quoted option due to the assumption of sodapoppins words meaning "anyone on the server" = not in the guild. Also, he was originally going to take the 4th option above, but the Mizkif wanted content, and it didn't seem like a guild execution at first. But as the event went on, Sequisha's realized he was put into the ring for anyone in the guild (he was originally just going to sprint to the arena before anyone on the server could get there). Anyways, Summit and Sequisha originally had false hope that the punishment wouldn't mean 1st recruiting everyone in the server first, then, throw the cheater in for execution. Anyways, your take on this is wrong because he was originally given a chance to redeem himself, but the guild squashed that slim chance and made it into guild content/execution. This is why people on the outside are mad at the end result because their judicial "trial" was rigged. Sequisha was too busy being used for content to realize he was lied to (even though there was no contract & the rules were evolving as he was walking there). Two wrongs don't make a right. Period.

[@orchidmtg5186]

dude definitely tried to get around the rules. im intrigued you think the only fitting punishment is character death/gkick. i was thinking it would be pretty fitting to lose all of his gold and gear and force him to go naked, probably sets him back about 10+ hours. it also creates a lot less drama and i think still sends a message that the punishment will be massive even for small offenses. im not trying to come off as sarcastic either im just actually curious why those options are the only ones

[@cheezycrusty]

​@@jacobsmith1544 Sequisha was given the optin and CHOSE the STV arena. He's a veteran player and KNOWS what would happen in there. "anyone on the server" means just that, ANYONE, so why would guild people be excluded? Do you personaly not understand the meaning of the word ANYONE?

[@Randombaconface]

​@@jacobsmith1544how does anyone on the server exclude guildies? The option you mentioned wasnt an option it was discussed but never given because it was considered too lenient. Remember he was supposed to be gkicked over this losing 10hrs is nothing when he spent 60 hrs in less than a week. It's literally a day... every1 would cheat if that was the punishment

[@biz1021]

@@jacobsmith1544There was no redemption option. All the options presented were for him to create a new character. Even soda said that deleting his items and taking a coward debuff for 3 days that he is better off creating a new character. Why didn’t sequisha jump at that offer right away knowing his other options!? Let him keep his character he should have been GUILD KICKED.

[@Jemski_T]

the facts have to be laid out here -Sequisha cheated. -Sequisha isnt a casual and can recoup the “60 hours” of his lost progress. -Everyone is aware that they will lose their character progress if they die in the Gurubashi Arena, thats why anyone close to his level is apprehensive about dueling him to the death there. -Zeroji was encouraged by his fellow trolls to finish Sequisha off as no one close to his level wants to finish him. -Sardaco is playing more into the racism here and he has privately messaged Zeroji about the RP troll hate. Sardaco only wants to instigate Guild racism and not single out one person. honestly Summit’s though process here is kinda (???). i feel like he lacked some critical information and just doubled down on whatever he feels

[@zippo718]

Summit just inserted himself as the poor casual victim. Made it personal for no reason.

[@MrGomlo]

I think it's a bit much. But I also really think having the level 60 kill him was lame AF to the max and kinda cringe, so I totally get Summit's point there.

[@grimmow187]

i watched it live and i thought it was a good idea to do the arena thing and it all started well, sequisha had a fair shot making it out but as soon as that high level guy jumped in it turned in to an execution, it was no longer a fair event. i have to agree with summit

[@disection-hk6yi]

the facts have to be laid out here -rules made from sodas ass. p2w addons like rested xp allowed. also petriflasks are allowed in future. -this guild is so bad they couldnt kill lvl 30 mage so they put 60 to finish the job -zeroji is bad at this game

[@bone1890]

Sorry but people thinking that sequisha had to have a shot is CRAZY.

[@FormoraDreamleaf]

This is definitely not something i thought would be controversial. The dude blatantly cheated. He lost his toon. Hes lucky he didnt get g kicked. Also, summit contradicted himself multiple times. Saying he agrees with sodas punishment. Of death. But then says it wasnt fair to take 60 hours from someone?? Lmao what??

[@Tim1990izi]

He didn't agree with instant death, Soda's punishment was: we throw him in the arena and if he survives for 10 minutes he gets to go free thats why he was mad

[@SirRivelion]

Summit didn't like it, because a better player did it, and his ego is hurt. That's what I got from this, since after agreeing with Soda, he always came back to "the sweatiest guy! It was supposed to be casual! But this guy made it about himself! Grrr". Brain damage from drugs, I guess.

[@Damaxyz]

@@Tim1990izi It doesnt matter what Sequisha agrees with as long as punishment goes, he blan - the original rule was: gkicked. He got lucky to get content out of it.

[@cuzoh7007]

he agreed with the arena where he would more than likely die he didnt agree with sending the sweatiest and highest lvl in to kill him he was most likely dead to the warrior and lock in the arena anyway

[@ricards4505]

@@SirRivelion You are so dumb it hurts reading your copium.

[@brandob1238]

Sequisha cheated and was going to die, plain and simple. The arena was just a more interesting way to do it with there being a tiny chance he gets out alive. Who killed him or how he died is irrelevant because he should be dead regardless. Summit is farrrrr too emotional about this.

[@disection-hk6yi]

what is cheating? This guild allows use of petriflasks in future and allows rested xp (p2w addon btw). meanwhile mail is big nono. Did these "rules" came from sodas ass? LOL

[@antohnyt2067]

@@disection-hk6yi dude were you not invited in the guild? Why are crying in every comment, lol loser

[@Youre-absolutely-right]

@@disection-hk6yi I don't use rested but wdym p2w addon? Is "winning" leveling a bit faster in your opinion? I thought winning was making it to 60 in this. Don't have an opinion on petri, I don't see why he should prohibit them...

[@foniks100]

​@@disection-hk6yi Guild is self found which mean you can't buy anything outside the guild They are gonna get petriflasks from drops and someone is probably gonna get it from random mobs before 60. the guilds goal is everyone get to 60 without getting boosted, doesn't mean they are aren't allowed to use rested xp. Mail wasn't the problem, it was him selling on AH.

[@Duduvianna3]

@@Youre-absolutely-right This guy is rage baiting, he is commenting everywhere to get a response. What he is saying doesn't even make sense.

[@viper2785]

Mad that 60 hours were taken from a cheater (who was going to die anyway (instead of just being gkicked btw)), told that it was a race/group thing, still hates the one lvl 60 and called him sweaty like 10 times. Dude is either completely detached from reality or has some personal beef, completely assmad over nothing. Sounds like he's just jealous tbh.

[@jujicof]

People arent to lose their 60 hours over a cheater whose better at pvp than them becuse he should be given a chance. Soda said day 1 "you cheat, you get insta kick no content, this was an exception and soda is paying the price for not beeing cold and hearthless

[@Najasoh]

whats the price? summit the grown gaming man crying? who cares it was entertaining

[@Extremexboxplayer]

the guy isn't even casual, they guy has done many lvl 60 hardcore runs.

[@fragtical8540]

summit has a habit of saying something and being wrong, then when called out he says "I dont care" its really sad. because it just proves he cannot handle being in the wrong ever.. this is what happens when you are a big streamer.

[@Extremexboxplayer]

@@fragtical8540 it's the same reason i stopped watching him like 6 years ago.

[@pehztv]

sequisha will still beat 90% of the guild to 60

[@fragtical8540]

@@Extremexboxplayer i stopped a few years back when he got into arguments with literally anyone and everyone over nothing. and him going back to that has just made sure im not gonna care about him in the future, its sad cuz he is a OG. but he is just old and stubborn now.

[@cuzoh7007]

u can lvl multiple character and be casual tho ;/

[@SYG_Aegis]

Summit has a brain failure or something? He cheated. IT doesn't matter how you kill the guy's character.

[@jon1805]

seems like he didn't know all the facts, then when he was told, didn't have the maturity to just stfu... had to be the main character

[@The4HorsePeaples]

@@jon1805 There were no facts just lies to cover. Go watch the vod of soda confronting the cheater and then tell me he was always supposed to die.

[@t0nje]

​@@The4HorsePeaplessoda was actually nice and gave 2 none deletion outs and he took the one that could kill him. Because sequisha knows 60 hours is nothing and he can level a new char faster in that time than having coward debuff for 72 hours.

[@cuzoh7007]

@@t0nje soda never gave the he said them and then miz came in and soda TOLD him they were doing the arena he also said "if you live the 10 min you can walk out and continue your adventure" then proceeded to send the lvl 60 that was all the trolls the after the 60 killed him soda said i didn't know the 60 was going to go in ;p

[@ricards4505]

@@jon1805 OKey, I cant read this BS anymore. You talk about maturity when it comes to OTK members? They are loosing touch with humanity. All you care about is content, you cant act like decent human anymore. Summit fought for Sequisha, cause in his eyes it was unfair advantage to have gigachad get in and take away any chance sequisha had to leave that arena. If soda knew he would die no matter what, why would they make content out of it and humiliate Sequisha by giving him false hope? You kids are horrible people. Respect to summit, to stand up against every incel OTK fan.

[@cryptian8730]

Horde No Talk, Horde Fight. GURUBASHI IS ARENA. He fought with HONOR.

[@Rosa_Neco]

ya mon he fought like a thunder lizard!

[@Terribads]

I feel the issue for Summit is that it was presented as a chance to save his character, but... that was an illusion.. there was no chance.

[@Overphased]

@@Terribads the issue with summit is he can't think normally anymore due to his brain rotting from weed and no sleep

[@Terribads]

@@Overphased Is... that the life we all aspire to? XD

[@MichaelCarmichael5]

Mental to think that summit is almost 40 years old.

[@millyzdad]

Does Summit not understand that Sequisha had to die and lose his account regardless ? It did not matter how it happened, it had to happen lmao. He was told he had to kill his account, Miz just suggested the arena thing for content, which yeah they shouldn’t have done but regardless he was going to lose 60 hours 😂😂😂 he cheated. I don’t know why he’s making such a big deal about it, it seems like more of a personal vendetta towards Zeroji than anything else.

[@sampizzey4862]

He says he understands that, but then he brings up '60 hours' all the time constantly. Doesn't make sense. I think the guy just wants to complain for the sake of complaining, tbh

[@Sumppa]

@@sampizzey4862 i always find weird how people defend people who cheated. Are we gonna say to world fastest man after he gets caught cheating that we forgive you because you spend 10 years leveling yourself to be able to get the record. That summit guy is beta

[@millyzdad]

@@sampizzey4862 yeah that’s what I find strange, he understands how he was supposed to kill his account and start again, then he cries about “how” this was done, and then he goes back to the 60 hours argument.. makes no sense.

[@The4HorsePeaples]

@@millyzdad Yeah because you are living in a false reality. He wasnt always supposed to die. Literally go watch soda confronting him. Sodas intital response was for him to delete the char until soda literally said "im getting pressure for a compromise" and they were talking about deleting gold or items then the arena thing came about. If there was no chance to begin with then there was no compromise.

[@millyzdad]

@@The4HorsePeaples Okay brother. 😂

[@Mayancinnamon]

Sequisha probably gained followers and subscribers from it. You would’ve thought Summit was the one that died 😭 It sounds like Summit is having the emo pot withdrawals iykyk

[@zippo718]

Victimized himself

[@cfvgd]

Huh? How sensitive are you? It's just a normal conversation. Go out and touch grass please

[@DrumDrum83]

Summit is probably cheating and worried about what's going to happen when he gets caught, dudes used to getting away with shit cause he tends to bring a big audience, OnlyFangs might be the only thing i've seen him do in the last 3-5 years where he wasn't the main draw for the event.

[@n996h]

@@zippo718also embarrassed himself. he was doing all of this in front of his irl friends who have never even played WoW before.

[@davidedlund2141]

Soda, this is what you should tell the guy. The punishment was NOT "Trial by combat". The punishment was literally "The server gets to decide". It did not say "The level 30-40s will decide the faith of the player". A lvl 60 should have ALL right to kill him. Why? Because he leveled to lvl 60 without cheats, and If it that would have been me, I would totally jump in and kill him. Because, it takes away from all the work that all the others are doing. If ONE player thought "no, that is not okay in this guild, he needs to die" - that player have ALL right to jump in and deal justice. "The server gets to decide" was the first thing you said. It makes NO sense that his cheating would result in another player, at the same level risk their character. No sense at all, what kind of punishment is that? Killing a less skilled player, and then you are free to go? No. Soda even said, when hearing about the idea "Oh so the higher levels player on the server decide his faith? I love it". This is not a hard topic, what the hell.

[@greenmagicman1500]

So well put together true Sigma mindeset.

[@realRize-_-]

LMAO I agree. Zeroji has more of a right to kill the cheater than anyone else on the server. He got to 60 without cheating the system and this guy cheats at lvl 37 and people think he'll just let that slide?

[@Jigglexphysics]

The number of people defending a cheater is insanneeeee. Crazy times we live in

[@sct77]

I doubt he would have cared if it wasn't for the fact that Zeroji was 60. If he was 58 or something and not the first person to reach level 60, Summit wouldn't have complained.

[@ConfidentMelon]

Well said. It's tempting to copy and paste this to every brainlet leaving half assed defenses of Summit in the comments

[@sunnybey]

At what age do people get tired of starting drama? Summit sounds so whiny, like bro it’s a game.

[@spatrk6634]

exactly. not only that but sequisha is a streamer. he probably earned some money out his playtime that summit calls wasted hours of his life

[@Zesilo]

Really sad Summit did this :(

[@jon1805]

at what age to streamers grow up? kinda tough when you live in a literal bubble of an echo chamber

[@arbuzs4383]

@@Zesilo you dont watch summit if you are sad that he did this lmao

[@theperfectbeing]

He still dresses like a Limp Bizkit fan from 2007, so take from that what you will.

[@goldmeistergeneral]

YOU CHEAT YOU DELETE. NO EXCEPTIONS

[@goldmeistergeneral]

Here's a conspiracy theory, Summit has been selling on the auction house and wants to survive if he gets caught

[@bajcli]

Summit is completely unhinged. 1 minute he's banging on about the "60 hours" thing as if it's his only issue, next minute he's shitting on Zeroji because him killing the guy and "making it about himself" is the only issue. The "60 hours" argument is a complete non-argument anyway, because it's not like Sequisha is some wagie with a full-time job losing his precious progress in a video game he plays for fun. The guy provided content for his viewers for 60 hours; he lost NOTHING. Hell, he even came out on top because a ton of people are hearing about him for the first time (me included); he's gotten a lot of notoriety for this event. And he's supposed to be punished, LMAO. Then he's just adamant in directing his stupid, misguided hate towards Zeroji, dude dude who was practically forced to do it and was still hella hesitant and nervous, only daring to dip in with a FAP to send his pet in... And for what it's worth, it was actually a pretty great event as an outsider, corny RP notwithstanding. You could feel the tension building all along, and when the LEGENDARY TROLL HERO finally went in to execute Sequisha, they were all pogging out of their minds. Actually, the corny RP made it a lot better, kudos to the trolls. Summit can honestly do one.

[@dflowers6771]

brader im allowed to have an opinion right brader?

[@r.j.a200]

brader do i have to like everybody in the guild ?

[@max88308]

❤

[@GryphonMcTips]

Yeah he was so scared he killed like four other people on his way out of the arena.

[@dyja7]

@@GryphonMcTips who the fuck cares if u go into gurubashi on hardcore u are asking to die lmao

[@HashtagBirdyy]

It was an execution. It wasnt a "fight for your life". He wasted his 60 hours of his life by cheating. Zeroji was the executioner. This is the only time on the server you could do something like this. Zeroji was the only person who could have done this. Anyone else who hopped in that arena knew the risk they were taking. This is why i quit watching summit and a bunch of his streamer buddies. Constantly whining about cringe things and rhiling up their audience to attack other streamers. I dont hate Summit but dude is taking it too seriously.

[@almedinradoncic3904]

Sarthe cheated and got zero punishment because his answer was ima level that bank alt .. WHAT? lol 😂

[@dat_man_lu]

The problem is it wasn't presented as an execution. They should have been clearer and that's why this confusion exists. That's why it seems the goal posts were moved.

[@gogotmg]

@@almedinradoncic3904 sarthe didn't break the rule directly but it was in a grey zone, and he DID have to delete that character meaning that was gone

[@t0nje]

​@@dat_man_lusoda literally said up to the higher levels to decide if you live or die. So Yes, its a execution

[@dat_man_lu]

@@t0nje when? Cause he said it was up to the server.

[@Dotrund]

Just kick summit. Why is he even here? He just hates everyone and absolutely nukes the vibes.

[@MiguellolTV]

summit should accept his freind cheated. @soda should have just had seq delete his charcater. zero tolerance cheating. restart, and dont turn off your addons cheating ass

[@andreasaa2000]

Cause soda doesnt call everyone and his mother a restart? And yells and screams like a fucking baby thats on the spectrum?

[@Thiefhermit]

Soda doesn't have the balls to kick summit, so you can keep crying on youtube video comment sections.

[@MrAshHere]

Why would he do that? He’s getting his 5 minutes.

[@Dexterity07]

He's the content, he's being farmed, who cares about his takes, we all know he's talking nonsense. Just enjoy the moment.

[@Airez90]

So Sequesha killed a few people in the arena before dying, is he a asshole aswell then? Sequesha did what he was told to do and so did Zeroji imo. I'm sure Sequesha liked this option way more than straight up deleting his character. After all, disabling the addon to do things the addon did not allow seems clear cut to me.

[@EdgeDaddyMoist]

Imagine being a 40 yo man, that plays video games for a living, complaining about losing time invested, when all you have is time.

[@FirelordTwinkyz]

Ya complaining about 60 hours meanwhile he has what 16000 hours on CS lmao

[@Bunny-xb]

The funny thing is, at the end of the day you can still rp this within the trolls. Summits troll is simply a stickler for "fair fights" and hates zeroji the champion for punching down on the lower level regardless of it essentially being a form of public execution/trial by combat. And he will maintain an anti zeroji stance due to the event. If you gameify it and think of it as reputation of characters then pretty much any drama can be blown over through rp. "Summit may become less popular amongst his fellow trolls for disagreeing with the horde, but he remains steadfast in his position even to a fault. Summit the Troll has now gained the title: 'Big Headstrong.' "

[@chrishawk93]

I believe that Summit along with several others (including my self at first, actually) got the false idea that the punishment got lesser when Soda changed it from just delete to try to survive for 10min in Gurubashi Arena. When it actually turned out to just be the same or arguably worse because the "delete" just got dragged out and gave a sense of false hope, when the Trolls decide to execute him at the end of him surviving in the arena. And because Summit didn't know at first that Zeroji was "ordered" to execute him, the image of a 60 sweat ruining Sequisha survival got stuck in his mind I think.. But idk, I'm not a mind reader, just a theory..

[@Jompa_Values]

Yes finally someone with common sense. And I believe even sequesha only agreed to this thinking he had a chance to survive.

[@almedinradoncic3904]

Yup but he said to fight whoever wants to fight him not who he ordered because he’s losing the fight against the death and soda wanted clout

[@cheezycrusty]

@@Jompa_Values No, Sequisha is a veteran wow player and a sweat too. He KNEW that going into the Gurubashi arena was a death sentence since anyone can join, and anyone literally means anyone. He KNEW he could have been swarmed by 200 players.

[@tvpotchi]

1:12 Granpa thought arena was a way out, it was going to be deleted anyways lmao

[@jaeslow6347]

What was the 10 minute timer about then? I think Summit was enjoying the fights that were naturally happening and then a 60 comes in and cuts the content. Thats literally it. People getting precious about Summit having an opinion are the wild ones. Projecting 'why do you care!?!' bro's I dont care, I just see Summits point.

[@disection-hk6yi]

Execution is funny excuse after everyone in guild failed to kill lvl 30 mage. Then Soda put his 60 dog to finish the job. That sounds cringe to me :D

[@disection-hk6yi]

You obviously also not pvp player. Zeroji can come gank lowbies but he would never challenge people his lvl range.

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

@@jaeslow6347 Summit has a small point but the way he points it out is just so toxic and he can't even see what he's doing wrong. He's so stuck up.

[@viktorhhh1]

@@disection-hk6yi Where did you get that it was Soda who told him to do it? Would very much like to know.

[@madslentoft6682]

The 3-4 level 50's that jumped in 2 seconds later would have killed him anyway.

[@disection-hk6yi]

zeroji is 🤡

[@BrokenToyAnimations]

@@disection-hk6yisalty salty get good

[@dudukous]

@@disection-hk6yi Mad because you can't get to level 60. Noob lmao

[@fatkonis2943]

that dude cheated so anything summit said was irelevant. just gkick those people next time.

[@ItsFactor]

Crazy idea; Don't cheat

[@Nicnieznaczacanazwa1]

I don't understand Summit. He was supposed to kill his character but they made event of it. And summit logic is like. "F. the police they killed a guy with guns,I know he was a murderer but still they should fist fight him and don't use guns "

[@imraduin]

No they gave him the choice to take a Coward bebuff or fight in the arena. He fought in the arena, killed 4 fucking guys in a row, and then Zeroji went in and executed him. Summit is right, it was fucking dumb. It's like they're pissed he pulled through and put 4 other players 6 feet deep and they didn't want him to be able to win.

[@Xxxjoelh4xxx]

Didnt know this was real life mate its a game. It should have been gkick but soda gave him a chance and lvl 60 going in was like nah never mind just no more chance for you

[@disection-hk6yi]

That is funny excuse after everyone failed to kill lowbie 30 mage. Truth is everyone had guns but everyone in this baddie guild got owned.

[@Sarnatuile]

Bro? While I don't agree with summit, your comparison is absolutely bananas lmfao. It's a whole different scenario with real people involved and real injuries and deaths. Comparing real life to a videogame is absolutely bonkers and just shows you're losing your grip on reality.

[@Youre-absolutely-right]

@@disection-hk6yi rewatch the moment before Zeroji enters the arena. He was against a 37 warrior and 34 lock without any cooldowns left and oom. He was 100% dead at that point

[@Terry-yo2gl]

So many overinflated entitled egos in 1 place

[@dumbitc11]

if i was soda i’d just kick summit from the guild. this shit is so toxic and it’s clear he doesn’t understand the rp and main goal of the guild. saying “i don’t like him” and “i don’t know him” in the same breath is insane. why be so hateful towards someone you don’t even know OVER RP in A GAME and turn a fun situation into a shitty one? i’d hate to see him play a real survival game where hours worth of progress being lost is the expected norm.

[@IAmMurdrface]

You don’t know summit. Yet here you are hating him. That wasn’t so insane lol.

[@dumbitc11]

@@IAmMurdrface justified and valid criticism isn’t “hating” lol i didn’t say anything similar to what we see him saying here. i would even consider myself somewhat of a fan but this behavior is just unacceptable.

[@IAmMurdrface]

@@dumbitc11 How is suggesting kicking him from the guild constructive criticism? Usually there is a balance that goes with that statement. Which is why it comes off hateful rather than constructive. Saying you would hate to see his survival content if its the norm, was this the constructive part? I am just trying to find it. He is allowed his opinion, even if stupid, even if overly emotional (it was). Guild kicking for an opinion would be absolutely cringe, especially when this will blow over soon. I just don't understand why this guy gets so much hate for an opinion and then the entire community dog piles on a guy they don't know when Soda's entire point was not to send hate to someone.. seems like that is incredibly hypocritical to also send an entire fan base after Summit. Which that also doesn't make sense when keeping everything equal to say they are sending hate over because they have no control over what their viewers do. The whole situation is dumb in my opinion lol. Simple: Don't cheat. IF you do, stick to your original plan that was told to everyone, to just kick that cheater. Then this whole drama wouldn't have even happened. But then again, we wouldn't be typing paragraphs if it didn't lol.

[@dumbitc11]

@@IAmMurdrface there’s only so many chances you can give someone who’s just being flat out hateful before you say enough is enough. the way he’s been talking on stream is causing his community to go harass another streamer. why should he be allowed to take part while doing that? it’s more about a valid/ justified reaction to his behavior vs what’s constructive. if he keeps this up it would 100% be a valid reason to kick him

[@Moofmoof]

Successful people don't get punished lol

[@sweatysockz]

Summit's point is going unheard and that is infuriating Why do the Arena at all if you rig the outcome and let him think there is a chance.

[@Protopro91]

Summit wanted a fair fight as a punishment. He wanted other people who spent 60 hours to fight the cheater and risk their own 60 hours for a cheater's punishment. Why should anyone in the guild risk their 60 hours for a punishment for a cheater? 60 hours

[@odamnitssam]

60 hrs

[@sorush93]

People who agrees with Summit are even worse then he is, His intentions are NOT what he says? So he says he had no problem with none of it? Only Zerojis part? How come LIVE on stream, as soon as Soda sed he should delete his character Summit sed NOOO, Just take his gold etc etc. It was obvious that he knew the guy, and didnt want him to be punished, even if he claims so here, and he found hope that Sequisha was close when he lasted a couple of minutes, but then it all ended with Zerojis kill shot, and thats where he got Mad. In the end of the day, he cheated, and could have been kicked out of the guild. BOOM out of content for months, This made the guy even more famous and gave hima chance to stay..... Its more then fair.

[@wm1573]

Well what I've seen literally NO ONE agrees with him 😂

[@sorush93]

@@wm1573 You find them mate as reponses to other main messages.

[@MegaCapo85]

Some of the comments here do and most of his chat does too. The thing is that it's not even his opinion on whether sending a 60 to kill a CHEATER what matters imo. It's the fact that he sent hate towards Zeroji knowing full well how a chat behaves when their streamer starts talking negatively about some other streamer. The guy's been streaming for a fucking decade and still acts like a child.

[@The4HorsePeaples]

@@MegaCapo85 You have no idea how fucking ironic it is for an old head like summit to have sodapoppin of all people tell him to chill with the ranting because it might send hate. Anyone remember Luck Fea? And that is actually directed harassment not some weird thing where no one is allowed to say what they believe on a topic because mentally ill losers might do something. How about some personal responsibility?

[@pocketz2202]

Ive never seen a grown ass man drown in his own rhetoric so bad as when kids to this. Like he presents an argument, soda rebukes it, and then summit turns around and say something different as a counter argument that contradicts his first argument. Like????? Hahahaha Sodas face says everything. This is hilarious

[@tomasssepetis4944]

i kinda feel the opposite way, soda basically admits to the fact that it was all for content aka hihi haha and summit makes the mistake of not pressing him more for that fact. soda also admits that it was wrong

[@tomasssepetis4944]

basically the way i see it is someone cheated in a casual "competition" and got too severely punished for the sake of content

[@Diniethefrostmage]

@@tomasssepetis4944​​⁠that’s just not true lmao, summit agreed that deleting the character was fair. It has nothing to do with wasting somebody’s time. His sole issue is that zero stole the glory. This was a punishment for cheating. The alternative was getting gkicked or deleting the character.

[@trick6pokemon624]

@@tomasssepetis4944 yeah true they should've just stuck with the initial posted punishment from months before the guild started of just gkicking them and removing them from the event entirely, completely wasting those 60 hours.

[@tyronedavis726]

Doesnt matter. Bro cheated. He was gonna die anyway. To complain that he died from a level 60. Is irrelevant. Hes lucky he even got the option to go to the arena @Diniethefrostmage

[@lre4real]

"60 hours is a lot of time" by someone who games for a living every day is fuckin wild.

[@nicknicknick7860]

Summit should be doing his variety shit if he's thinking like that about the game, god damn

[@nickcollins1528]

Soda poppin sounds like he says thank you to his gfs bf

[@kodysullivan7582]

I’m new here but dude on the right is choosing to die on a molehill. Hardcore is a “sweaty” mode by nature. The arena is open and anybody at any level can step in and do anything. F-tier argument. “I’m not a hive mind” made so much sense coming out of him lol

[@stertothetop]

been like 5 days and already drama LMAO classic wow is so peak

[@GermanBoy00]

Summit's switch from the attacker into the victim role is insane. "I am allowed to have an own opinion" 🙄 Like a small child that keeps stomping on the ground with his feets "I WANT THAT CANDY!!"

[@SoyDrinker]

"Zeroji is a no life fucking loser who is trying to get clout and make the moment about him because he has nothing going on in his life" "That's pretty out of line, Zeroji is a good guy and we were the ones who asked him to be involved, why are you being such a bitch?" "OH SO IM NOT ALLOWED TO EVER DISLIKE ANYONE? I'M NOT ALLOWED TO EVER HAVE ANY OPINION ABOUT ANYTHING EVER, I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO MINDLESSLY AGREE WITH THE HIVEMIND ON EVERYTHING? And why are you calling me a bitch, that's way too far bro!" God summit was insufferable in this video lmao

[@BulletTimeCrisis]

The irony of Summit being angry that a CHEATER did not get a FAIR fight.

[@YTfrog233]

Does Summit realize the alternative to this was that Sequisha straight up deletes his character?

[@MimiPipoo]

Veibae was behind it all! Queen be pulling the strings and poor Soda gets the slack. Veibae erupted into the discord first demanding the trolls and Zeroji to step in and kill the guy. Was funny as hell.

[@foniks100]

Mizkif's idea to kill him in Arena, but he wanted it to be 30 min - 60 min, instead of 10.

[@MrSneakyyGaming]

Tbh 13:55 is just hypocritical. Saquesha believes he can fight for 10 minutes to survive. But if it's rigged for him to lose why would he even accept it? I agree with summit the punishment was amazing. What wasn't amazing is watching a lvl 60 2 hit. It was fun watching everyone try to 4v1 etc.

[@sct77]

Saquesha didn't believe that, he did it because he had to and because it would make him more popular, which is why they didn't have to make content out of it and just gkick instead.

[@sere971]

yeah it wasn't amazing but that doesn't mean Zeroji deserves to get shit on by other streamers for it and have nonstop chat hoppers insulting his person because of dumbasses like Summit taking things too seriously. Soda admitted it could've been better content. It's obviously not fun to see a 60 hop in and end the scene compared to sequisha dying to a bunch of lower leveled people. The reason Summit is being a dipshit here is because his logic makes zero sense. "60 hours" were going to be gone regardless. He cheated. It was this or a toon deletion. "Am I allowed to not like someone?!" when the issue is him constantly shitting on Zeroji as a person, and ignoring that it was a group decision because "oh so I just have to like him because he got peer pressured into it huh?" He's being a stubborn jackass about it and this shit made me unfollow him after watching him (not super actively) since like 2013-2014. It's cringe, manchild behavior to be a drama stirrer just because something didn't play out how you wished it did.

[@MrSneakyyGaming]

@sere971 yeah your ignoring the issue summit brings up. You argue it's a group decision but no one made Zeroji do anything apart from how own two hands and actions. He could of been the champion of the trolls and "shown them a better way mon" in RP terms. It's already done with now, and people moved on, but this whole thing coulda be done better is the whole point. And I agree with summit on that. It doesn't matter if you all tell me to do something, because at the end of the day it's me doing the action. Take some self accountability

[@Feastia]

Crazy that summit cares so much that Zero G killed a caught cheater in the guild but it would of been okay to let someone who cheated kill other peoples characters at their level and ruin their time including the several people that DID jump into the arena and died to the undead mage. Originally Soda was just going to have Sequisha kill his character regardless so i don't see why it matters, Sequisha got to fight some people, killed a handful of people who jumped in on him and then died to the trolls champion for RP.

[@Edgariki]

Dont forget about random viewer playing rogue, who protected Sequisha 3 times during event. Thats the only reason why trolls are sended lvl 60 at the end.

[@SEnergyable]

^^^^ this summit has no problem with other players' characters dying in the arena, simply because they are not part of the guild... he does not give a single flying F about "hours spent" on leveling, not one bit - what he cares about the most is being center of attention, because he is egoistic manchild - and he got what he wanted

[@Feastia]

@@Edgariki Yeah crazy how Sado and a few other members of the Undead said "If Zeroji hops into the arena we're jumping in to help Sequisha." Yet most of them didn't... where were they at? why didn't they hop in to defend their cheater?

[@ashperks2608]

Been in management for 25 years. You handled that poorly

[@gzozgo]

I don't disagree, but I'm curious. What would you have done differently?

[@ashperks2608]

@@gzozgo Way to much to unpack in a youtube comment, but Summit's comment at around 9:44 and Soda's reply at 10:00 is a perfect example of a failure to listen and address your guild members concerns, instead choosing to justify his position by side stepping and quickly fabricating a "what if" senaro about troll RP. At 10:11, you see Summit lose all respect, because his concerns and brushed aside and no direct answers are given. He feels completely unheard.

[@rockrick9988]

Just kick summit and get past this. No one will care

[@ArcaneAndrew]

Lost a lot of respect for Summit there. He acted like a complete child in the situation and would barley let Soda speak at all.

[@rockfishyo]

Summit rage baiting

[@Erodent]

The crazy part about all of this is summit is what 35+? And taking his anger out and calling ONE GUY a loser, a fucking sweat, etc etc. and it ZEROJI DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE DECISION Summit is ANGRY AT A GUY who DID NOTHING but follow what the GROUP wanted. He even says “peer pressure” So summit, if you see it as peer pressure why THE HELL are you mad at the guy WHO GOT PEER PRESSURED and not the people WHO TALKED HIM INTO IT. Literally a grown baby holy…

[@dylankeglovits9671]

summit, new to the game compared to everyone else. has little idea about whats going on and getting involved in things he shouldnt be.

[@Erodent]

@ exactly, he should have watched the event and gone “well that was silly back to leveling I guess” Instead it was “THIS ZEROJI GUY IS A FUCKING LOSER DUDE HOLY SHIT WHAT A SWEATY NERD” and when confronted tries to place the blame on literally everyone else but his own behavior telling soda “YOU convinced him!” When he just told him “the troll group convinced him it wasn’t just me” And then he’s bitching about the time sequisha spent leveling but can’t seem to grasp how others would be stressed about being at the arena. Buddy is blinded to his own self importance.

[@zeekawesomecus917]

I disagree with the excuse that Zeroji was peer pressured. He's a big boy who can make his own decisions. But I also don't understand why Summit is this angry at him and is saying stuff like "how could you take 60 hours away from him like that" and in the same breathe say "I'm cool with the punishment." Clearly he isn't cool with the punishment. The dude purposely cheated, and honestly Soda handed him the easiest way out of both being removed from the event and a lot of the hate he would have gotten from being removed or even if he just simply had to kill his character. At that point who cares what happened, he got off the easiest way possible. It honestly might have ended worse for him with him living from it, cause then you'd get the chatters who think its bullshit that he cheated and got away with it. I'd say the only thing that was disappointing from having a 60 kill him was it ended the content a bit anti-climatically rather than him fighting for his life and eventually getting overwhelmed. But again its better for his character to have died so people can say justice was served and we can move on from it. The pros to Zeroji killing him is there isn't risk to other people's characters involved. Cause that's what Summit is suggesting even if he doesn't realize it, potentially wiping away other people's precious progress.

[@The4HorsePeaples]

You can be mad or not like someone for not having the char to resist peer pressure. Wtf kind of argument are you even making? Its called personal responsibility bud.

[@Erodent]

@ bro it was just for fun for an execution who tf cares? Why is it so deep for you? It didn’t involve anyone even in the drama besides ZEROJI and Sequisha. Until soda mentions how a large portion of people wanted zeroji to do it because they didn’t wanna risk the chance of dying to sequisha if other people didn’t jump in right away. Zeroji agreed to do it not out of peer pressure but because it could be good content, his only worry was the undead raid killing him. The peer pressure argument summit makes is pointless which is why soda goes “PeEr PReSSurE?!” 😂 cuz it very clearly isn’t that, I was simply saying it’s hilarious in summit’s(a grown ass 35+ year old man) head the person who got peer pressured is to blame, and regardless of freedom of choice, why be mad at that guy and not the people chanting around him to do it at the same time? Why single it ONE person to have a problem with when multiple people are involved? It’s childish.

[@CommanderTurner]

I mean I get Summit, just losing all that time played wasted. Sequisha knew he was caught cheating when he smirked on stream, that should be an auto death if you're in the guild, you know the rules.

[@lunemay5013]

It's funny how summit says "Why let the most sweatiest guy get involved", meanwhile he is literally doing the exact same thing on GTA RP. Summit is just projecting at this point. What a manchild

[@MrShadowmaster123]

It's time, Summit should retire. Something damaged his brain during his rage gaming career.

[@Krelivane]

Why is Summit advocating for cheating? If you cheat, you restart, no matter how many hours you've put in. Who cares how you die? I'd take spectacle over a simple character delete.

[@RetroxyYT]

Holy shit. Loved summit for years and years and this just soured it all to me.

[@zestog6208]

I think what Summit got wrong is that none of the casuals were involved in this. A sweaty cheater got sent to the sweaty shark tank, the rest is history

[@Dildtherapper]

This is so sad from summit man. The guy cheated, those 60 hours were gone the second that soda called sequisha.

[@sonofbonch4238]

0 IQ take from summit, its hard to listen to

[@grimmow187]

i watched it live and i thought it was a good idea to do the arena thing and it all started well, sequisha had a fair shot making it out but as soon as that high level guy jumped in it turned in to an execution, it was no longer a fair event. i have to agree with summit

[@stupidestduck]

@@grimmow187 but it wasnt supposed to be fair. The whole point was for him to die because he cheated. The alternative was just him deleting a character but this way he atleast got some content out of it.

[@Testoodope]

@@stupidestduck Then why was there a timer?

[@stupidestduck]

@@Testoodope so that if he survived those 15 minutes he would've been pardoned. Thing is he never was supposed to survive those 15 minutes. The entire point was making an event out of him getting killed. Soda said several times that he was not going to make it out of there alive.

[@gzozgo]

Before this discussion, I felt Summit a bit. But I hate how he argues. Summit is being so obtuse by not realizing that Soda's entire point is how Summit's words have a lot of weight. Streamers need to be mindful of the influence they have over their viewers and how easy it is to instigate an angry mob on the internet. "So I'm not allowed to dislike the guy" is a motte and bailey fallacy, and the "60 hours" argument is nonsense for a number of reasons. It's not like Sequisha lost those hours to the void. He got huge content and experience out of those hours Sequisha's punishment (death) was lenient. He willfully and flagrantly cheated. A gkick would have been fair That said, I don't love how Zeroji randomly ran down and killed the 37 warrior and 34 warlock who fought Sequisha, while they were running away

[@RogunK]

All the drama could have been avoided by choosing a different punishment. When the person complaining about drama (Soda) is the same person who pushed it in that direction don't really have the moral high ground to complain when it was their choices that caused it.

[@MegaCapo85]

​@@RogunKYeah, Soda gave the cheater the choice to make content out of it. Hopefully he'll stick to what was said before and if someone cheats again just gkick them and out of the discord, 0 clout and move on

[@sasivasebas]

The 34 and 37 entered the Arena as the 60 too, they all knew the risks. If u dont get it is because you havent gone in ever, if u step in u could die by ANYONE at ANY POINT from stepping in to going outside...

[@RogunK]

@@sasivasebas Oh I know about the arena considering I first started playing wow back in 2005.

[@sasivasebas]

@@RogunK ??? who cares i didnt answered to you.

[@norXmal]

I like Summit, but this was such a terrible take on his part and just being emotionally stubborn on his take. While his demeanor and outbursts just causes some certain viewers of his to go harass zeroji, he has an audience and should understand that.

[@Xxxjoelh4xxx]

No normal people is gonna go and chat hop to hate. If u do go touch some grass like summit obv dosent want anyone to do that and honestly no one should care about chat hoppers just ban them

[@overhansable]

Do not argue with Summit ever, the head is just to small on the inside...

[@scott8657]

Sardaco all bark no bite. Impressed a undead has such little spine when you can clearly see there spine sticks out.

[@acaelusstormbringer2664]

From a completely unbiased point of view I can understand both of their arguments. Soda's point of view is that a player cheated and instead of kicking him they made a fun and entertaining event out of it and when the cheater was killed, justice was served. Summit's point of view isn't about if the player who cheated should have been killed, but the way he was killed. I have no skin in the game, I don't watch a ton of Soda or Summit so because of that I can be completely unbiased when I say that I honestly think Summit has a good point. Yes at the end of the day you can say other players forced Zeroji to jump in and kill the cheater however at the end of the day it was his decision to do it. As far as I am aware no one was pointing a gun to his head or controlling his keyboard so he ultimately just could have said he wasn't going to do it. Summit is saying that because he made the decision to do it that he doesn't like it, which is completely fair. I do think cheaters should be punished and thought the arena was actually very interesting however I do think the situation could have been handled better.

[@janah6473]

Saying no to that request is essentially pardoning the cheater. Obviously zeroji wanted him dead. Rightfully so.

[@sere971]

I think everyone is aware that Summit has a "good point" and that the situation could've been handled better. The problem is not Summit disagreeing with how it went down, the problem is him creating out of game drama about it and flaming Zeroji as a person, player, and streamer. That shit is awkward and he's acting like a child. I've watched both of them plenty, but I've watched a lot more Summit over the course of several more years than I've been following Soda, and this shit is downright cringeworthy from Summit's end because of how he went about expressing his opinion. If he brought up his problems like an adult and suggested how future situations like this could've been better without being an inflammatory, angry dickhead about it, no drama would exist.

[@Blane35]

8:48 The opinion isn't the problem here, the problem is the fact that Summit publicly started talking shit and sent hate to Zeroji even though he has a larger following. On the matter of Sequisha cheating: Soda gave him a chance by sending him to the arena instead of deleting the character outright. What I do wonder is if Summit would react the same if it wasn't Zeroji who deleted Sequisha's character and it was Soda instead. I can only assume things here because it looks like Summit has something personal against Zeroji because Summit's arguments don't make any sense. It's almost like Summit can only see one side of things and are dead-set that Zeroji is the problem because... why???

[@disection-hk6yi]

No you have to understand that this comes from pvp player perspective. When guild fails to kill lvl 30 mage and send his 60 dog to 1-shot him. thats absolute cringe in pvp community.

[@cameronball4579]

@@disection-hk6yi who gives a fuck? its supposed to be an RP content guild, cheating in a for fun event is cringe

[@medinore2069]

@@disection-hk6yi lol nobody from the guild went to go kill Sequisha, it was all random lvl 30s. Plus, Sequisha had help from a 44 undead rogue. So stfu you literally are speaking out of your ass

[@disection-hk6yi]

@@medinore2069 full guild vs 2 players. Please give more excuses puzzy.

[@disection-hk6yi]

@@medinore2069 You are so bad at this game you need 60 to kill lvl 30. Like how bad can you be? Scrub.

[@RAAZR-]

Summit wanted the guy who gained an unfair advantage by cheating to get a fair fight in the arena vs people who didn't cheat to reach lvl 30s.. this guy is weird. Sending the lvl 60 in was a sign of part of the server deciding that the cheater should have his character killed. To make that out to some guy wanting clout says more about Summits own judgement and motivations for playing OnlyFangs than the lvl 60. Even the cheater was over it..

[@Njore.]

Every time Summit is involved in something, he's always complaining. it's actually so exhausting listening to the guy.

[@pyrex4471]

I get Summit's point, but I really don’t understand why people are so quick to throw out hateful comments. That aside, there are some key details missing from this video. Initially, the cheater was given options instead of being kicked from the guild: either take the coward debuff and delete all their stuff or delete their character and start over. Later, the coward debuff offer was taken back, and instead, they were told to take their chances in the arena, which made it seem like there was at least a shot at a chance to live. I agree it was awesome to watch up to that point, but when the level 60 stepped in, it completely killed the vibe. At that stage, they might as well have just told the cheater to delete their character outright. What the cheater actually did was disable their addon and use the auction house to store items. Honestly, this doesn’t seem like a massive offense, especially considering T1 was caught cheating and only had to delete the item they gained-it feels inconsistent (edit: debunked regarding T1, but my point regarding the type of offense remains, as Soda only thought T1 was cheating and at the time only asked to delete the item)? The whole situation seems like it was orchestrated to create content around cheating, which is ironic given that Soda explicitly said he wasn’t going to do that. Soda also points out the hate the level 60 might receive because of Summit, but by creating this video and fueling the drama, it’s actually Summit who’s likely to end up taking most of the backlash (just take a look at all the comments, Soda, common). I also didn’t like how Soda joined Summit’s stream and called him, saying, “Explain how you feel, and I’ll explain how you’re wrong.” That approach is bound to put anyone on the defensive right away and completely dismisses Summit’s right to his own point of view. At the end of the day, neither side comes out of this and they should next time agree to NOT cover content on cheating.

[@Mister_Boredom]

T1 didn’t cheat, Soda thought he did as T1 didn’t know where an item he got mailed came from. In the end, the item was from a guild member, so he could’ve taken it.

[@derpymouse1959]

T1 wasn't found cheating actually someone said he was, then later way later after forcing him to delete the item was it clarified that it was not cheating because the item came from someone in the challenge within the guild.

[@Skruffswag]

Finally someone who gets it.

[@pyrex4471]

@@Mister_Boredom Thanks for clarifying

[@pyrex4471]

@@derpymouse1959 Thanks for clarifying

[@AoRxStealth]

Summit is right, it was cool until Zeroji killed him. Soda has really been on a high horse lately its cringe.

[@ShimkaStelka]

That's what happens when you don't follow your own rules, you could've avoid all the drama if you just kicked him out of group, or straight said that you can redeem but you die now and start from level 1. The simple solutions are usually the best ones.

[@Cowlyyy]

Tyler1 having the most reasonable opinion on this is ironic lol

[@joep5454]

Summit's response is like textbook "how to stop anything constructive coming out of an argument". Every time Soda would bring up a solid point he'd throw the "am I not allowed to dislike the guy" as his silver bullet, completely missing the point. Yeah you're allowed to have that opinion, but based on how things went it kinda seems pretty stupid, biased and unfounded, and you're throwing out way too much hate over said opinion. You're allowed to have it, people are also allowed to call you out for absolutely killing the vibe with it

[@vilioksgrigolius191]

He doesn't understand that the verdict on the cheater was already passed - Death. He is just yelling at the executioner

[@lukedaniels8797]

Summit picked the wrong race. The tribe has spoken

[@stebs01]

Summit’s argument is completely invalid. Sequisha’s 60-hour old character was dead regardless. Either Sequisha kills it himself or he dies with honor in the arena. Regardless, the outcome doesn’t change. DON’T CHEAT

[@danieloneill10]

Summit is absolutely wrong here. Guys life was void when he cheated.

[@Terwilligrrr]

He was sentenced to death. Full stop. The gurubashi part was just to turn the execution into content. Zeroji was just the executioner.

[@DeputyDump]

Summit calling Zeroji a no life is hilarious because summit has probably put in more time on his character. Zeroji jumping in made this more polarizing, Sequisha was already dead with 3 others on him and Zeroji was just honoring the loas wishes.

[@shadowlogic2306]

Talking to summit must be like talking to a wall

[@shadowlogic2306]

and the wall somehow is responding

[@emilgebl8644]

@@shadowlogic2306 and the wall literally has room temp iq

[@vaidask7438]

i thought summit was a cool guy before, but this proved, that he is freaking delusional

[@Vietnomeez]

If he has time to grind 60 hours and then decide to cheat the system, chances are he doesn't give a fuck about the 60 hours. Otherwise, he wouldn't cheat. Rules are rules and being allowed Gurabashi Arena death trial was a mercy regardless of whomever decided to jump in and risk their characters that they also invested a lot of time into and didn't cheat. Gkick is the boring option and they made content out of it and an example to future cheaters. Seems fair to me.

[@kath59]

summit cant explain his own opinion, every time soda explains how it doesnt make sense, summit just says im allowed to hate someone, only children dont listen to reason

[@GigglePig99-j2u]

"He gets a little kickback, along with his clout" right there's the real issue. Summit isn't as popular as the cool kids, he's in this for the paycheck, and he's jealous

[@AVB40000]

Summit is being such a baby about this. Holy shit the guy needs to reflect. "I'm allowed to have an opinion" YES, but others are allowed to have an opinion about you :^)

[@incizer4419]

Summit doesn’t give a shit about Sequisha. He’s demonizing a guy for being sweaty at wow under the guise of white knighting for Sequisha. You get glimpses of his real motive when he randomly attacks zerog on a personal level. Summit is washed and jaded and bitter

[@memberberries7669]

Trying to act tough in a Naruto hat is fucking diabolical.

[@OddOtter707]

Full Time Streamer Summit, complaining about 60 hours like he's ever worked a full time job in his life 😂

[@FeroxPot]

Summits argument is ridiculous, If someone uses aimbot cheats in CSGO but they have hundreds of hours in the game they deserve to let the punishment slide? No they are getting banned the second it’s proven. The fact the guy even had a slight chance to survive was more than what he could of asked for.

[@ascend111]

I get both sides, soda made it sound like he'd have a chance to survive, but many people were dead set on him not living by the end of it. That was not made clear and summit assumed "oh he might live", this was an execution the moment he cheated.

[@thehail]

I would get summit point if he wasn't talking about another fulltime streamer. If he died in the arena and started over, more people would jump in his stream to watch him level up again. It's simply more content and a way of exposure. Sequisha ain't working an 8 hour shift and then streaming, he can start over. Plus, he cheated, he didn't even get kicked from the guild. It was all fair.

[@Spinefist]

I don't know bunch of you streamers at all, but Summit is really doing a disservice to himself here, completely unable to comprehend the situation. Having a safe 60 lvl character execute the cheater was absolutely the right choice. Also worth noting that actually giving the cheater a new chance at all, because the minor nature of the "crime" was also very well adjusted. Soda had a good sense of justice here.

[@LiamDavid]

Punishment for cheating isn’t a fair duel with level 25s

[@biglollol]

To summarize this: Soda: "Everyone is equal, but I'm more equal." Stop bending rules to your will. "We aren't gonna make content out of deaths." Then don't do it. But you did, _solely for the purpose of not losing this argument and be in the wrong._ Mizkif came up with this idea, he's content brained. Stop listening to him man.