The most absurd kpop opinions from chronically online stans

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Soft 4 Taeng

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@yurikicho7675
@yurikicho7675 Жыл бұрын
opinion 5 is ridiculous. popular members are usually popular for a reason. its completely fine to bias a popular member.
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
so r unpopular members also unpopular for a reason?? jk im fine with biasing the most popular member tho^^ nothing against it esp if they got into the group. if they didnt like the creator said, casual stanning works too
@gvynkii
@gvynkii Жыл бұрын
frr and then ppl get angry at the "popular" members for taking shine away from the least popular.. like be fr, kpop fans are so immature 😭
@yurikicho7675
@yurikicho7675 Жыл бұрын
@@4m3mory usually unpopular members aren’t as skilled as popular members, or aren’t as well marketed. popular members are usually talented members of their group that deserve the marketing that they get. there are exceptions, of course, where less talented members are most biased and more talented members aren’t, but this is the rule for most groups
@dreamyclown7185
@dreamyclown7185 Жыл бұрын
​@@4m3moryofc it has a reason, they are either not promoted as well or are boring or not as attractive as the popular member
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
@@dreamyclown7185 ikk but when they go "theyre most popular for a reason" it directly connects to "theyre least popular for a reason".. even if it's true, its kinda rude to the member yk. i got nothing wrong with biasing the most popular member bc some r good and i pick my bias regardless of popularity. but that specific comeback/defense ive seen doesnt do it...
@vickychannnnn
@vickychannnnn Жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much for the second one! I feel so much relieved. I've seen some girls even say ''Men can't stan K-pop until or unless they're a part of LGBTQ community'' like who are you to decide? 💀Some girls are much creepier when it comes to boy groups. I never thought of girl groups in a weird way, they are a literal therapy for me and I respect them a lot :)
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
"unless they're a part of the lgbt community" like do they even realize that even lgbt people can be creeps? 😭 a gay guy could still be creepy with boy groups just like a gay girl could be with girl groups, but that has nothing to do with sexuality and has everything to do with each specific person...people need to stop treating kpop stans as a monolith
@iheartoyencats
@iheartoyencats Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY!!! As someone who's bisexual, ive known/seen ppl being creeps no matter what their sexuality or gender orientation are like i swear it's not js men, ik an irl of mine who stans a bg and shes said rly weird shit ab them in the past 😭😭
@vickychannnnn
@vickychannnnn Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taeng omg fr like the girls are always hating on men for stanning ggs i dont see the problem w that 😭😭
@vickychannnnn
@vickychannnnn Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taeng and its always the pinterest girls 💀
@gvynkii
@gvynkii Жыл бұрын
​@@vickychannnnnTHE PINTREST WHISPER GIRLS 💀 also alot of ppl say "why doesn't hyein (njs) get alot of attention" but when ppl do say that hyein is their bias, they are instantly seen as a creep for some reason, especially on pintrest were there are many whispers saying not to stan hyein or otherwise ur a creep 😨 like not everyone has creepy intentions towards her, she has amazing vocals and a nice personality 😭
@Thispotatolikekpop
@Thispotatolikekpop Жыл бұрын
One of the dumbest kpop opinions I hear is when people act like their opinion on songs are facts. Ive seen so many ktubers say "How did x song get soty, how do people like this, my favs are so much better, people have no taste" Like excuse me, when was your preference a fact? Theres nothing wrong with disliking a song but shaming others for not agreeing with you is wong.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely and i’m also waiting for the day kpop stans will realize that there’s a specific criteria to determine which song gets soty and just cause your faves lost it doesn’t mean the show was rigged 🙄
@mairalaurence8283
@mairalaurence8283 Жыл бұрын
If they dont like a song then it's ok its just their opinion (presented as a fact) but when some people genuinely like the song then they are delulu and whatnot
@skdoremi6666
@skdoremi6666 Жыл бұрын
Well....that's still the youtuber opinion and they r free to think it but u right,its the way they force people to dislike or like a song......
@wintersblackmamba
@wintersblackmamba Жыл бұрын
Yeah when love dive won soty and armys jumped on ive and was like mnet rigged! No way ive won over bts!! ive didn’t deserve it!!! First of all, yet to come was relevant for like a month (no hate, and of course if it won soty I wouldn’t be arguing I’m no hypocrite I’m just trying to bring logic) and love dive was EVERYWHERE for months. Love dive charted for months and months and love dive stayed pretty relevant through the whole year. I really just find it odd when people are like “ive didn’t deserve soty!!!” sorry but I think they absolutely did. Gidle fans were guilty of taking shots at ive too. Tomboy and love dive were both huge songs in 2022 and both were worthy of soty. No need for the fan wars and hate. Both groups did amazing.
@Thispotatolikekpop
@Thispotatolikekpop Жыл бұрын
@@wintersblackmamba exactly, I find it really funny that when love dive was first released people said it deserved soty, but now that it did it's all of a sudden it's rigged, like bfr, it just proves that the stans saying that was only bein performative, it's also really funny how people were shitting on tomboys rap for months, and now all of a sudden they think it deserved soty, no hate I love tomboy, like it just proves that people hate I've. If tomboy won, it was deserved, if love dive won, it was deserved, it was fifty fifty chance to go to either.
@jocelynfrierson
@jocelynfrierson Жыл бұрын
Very true for the Man stanning GGs one! Like they be mad at how many men are at a GG fansign but say nothing to the amount of women at a BG fansign
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
THIS!!!! Make it make sense because I'm not getting the lack of logic here!!
@2FullMoons
@2FullMoons Жыл бұрын
Some of the weirdest stuff I’ve ever come across since being a kpop fan came from grown women and the way they treat younger idols, regardless of the idols being male of female. Anybody can be creepy, but just because someone is older that doesn’t mean they can’t have a genuine appreciation for a group and their content. Most people are NOT weirdos, and that’s a fact, so lumping everyone together is unfair.
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
@@2FullMoons Say it louder for the people in the back!!!
@winter_gaeul_fan1207
@winter_gaeul_fan1207 Жыл бұрын
I'm a guy and I mostly stan girl groups. But I have to say that I feel attracted to those girls, I think they're beautiful and I also enjoy their music. I don't stan girl groups because I'm weirdo or something like that.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
To be honest it’s pretty normal to feel attracted to idols so i don’t understand why so many people act like it was a crime. As long as someone isn’t being weird when it comes to minors, then there’s no problem.
@tolanisimpson5360
@tolanisimpson5360 Жыл бұрын
​@@soft4taeng EXACTLY!!
@2FullMoons
@2FullMoons Жыл бұрын
It’s normal to feel attracted to people that portray themselves as perfect, which is an idol’s job. So that’s not a problem, the problem is only when grown adults don’t use discernement and get weird around younger idols. That’s crossing a line, something both men AND women can do. But besides that, being attracted physically ( as long as you don’t fetishize or sexualize ) or even having a small crush on an idol that is of age is really not that weird and I can promise you A LOT of the fans that fight this fight experience that too.
@gvynkii
@gvynkii Жыл бұрын
ur so real for that and idk why ppl see this as weird? alot of ppl don't care when fangirls are attracted to male idols so it shouldn't be a problem for u!!
@mairalaurence8283
@mairalaurence8283 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere, some onces(twice fans) commenting that "omg why there are straight men in twice concert!?!" and I was like whaat?? Then I open replies and they were saying they were creepy AND U KNOW WHAT STRAIGHT MEN CAN ENJOY GG THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! UNLESS THEY AREN'T DOING SOME CREEPY SHIT AND THIS APPLYS FOR ALL FANS REGARDLESS THEIR GENDER AND SEXUALITY
@chaewwwon
@chaewwwon Жыл бұрын
Oh the second one... this one torments me so much 😭 I've been a kpop fan since 2016 when I was 10 to 11 years old and this year I'm going to be 18, which is considered an adult age in my country. I always liked girlgroups better. It's not because of fetishism or anything like that, I just like it more... Here in Brazil a lot of people judge A LOT of older men who like girl groups and that makes me a little afraid of being seen as a predator or something like that. like 💀💀
@chaewwwon
@chaewwwon Жыл бұрын
and mainly because I'm a tokki, I'm scared of it, but I'm literally 5 months younger than Danielle 💀
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Kpop stans are so damn weird when it comes to ages because they act as if an 18 year old stan was basically a creepy old man…they seriously need to grow up
@Anywaysstantwice
@Anywaysstantwice Жыл бұрын
UMA BR MANO
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
yeahh ur just listening to the music and enjoying it^^ i do think going to a fanmeeting would be weird tho
@2FullMoons
@2FullMoons Жыл бұрын
The kpop stans that say these things are young and don’t realize they are gonna grow up also. They don’t realize that they also won’t just ‘stop’ listening and stanning groups once they hit 18 and will probably go on to do that with younger groups too once they reach that point. The logic is very stupid and reinforces idiotic ideas, especially about men.
@양송-k2g
@양송-k2g Жыл бұрын
My ex's father is in his 60s and is a fan of IVE, Le Sserafim and NewJeans. He's listening to the music because it puts him in a good mood. He's watching the performances because he's just so amazed by their talents and skills and enjoys seeing young people doing what they love and being great at it. Assuming he's a creep is wrong to me because this man as many others just want to listen to music that has positive vibes and is trendy right now
@vangyul
@vangyul Жыл бұрын
Heavy on number 4!! I respect the fact that some people don’t want to vote for minors (me included) but we can’t forget that everyone has the right to do what they want and if they chose to vote for a minor there’s nothing you can do about it. I also feel like it’s okay if the trainee in question isn’t THAT young.
@-m08532
@-m08532 Жыл бұрын
Would you consider 15 young, or what is your cutoff age?
@vangyul
@vangyul Жыл бұрын
Younger than 15 is personally a no from me, 15 is already somewhat better. I still prefer voting for someone who’s 16/17 though, but then i feel like it depends on each trainee and how mature they seem to be as people.
@aleahscottage
@aleahscottage Жыл бұрын
@@vangyul same haha. Sometimes they're wicked talented and mature at 15 that it just makes sense to at least give them support.
@missluna___
@missluna___ Жыл бұрын
#4 stuck out to me. I know that on GP999 I heavily voted for Myah despite her being young. Not only did I think she would’ve fit what I expected Kep1er to be, but I knew that Yujin was basically a lock for the group and would likely be the leader. Seeing her lead teams in the show made me way more comfortable voting for Myah because I knew she’d be cared for. Voting for minors isn’t inherently wrong.
@vixxexo6855
@vixxexo6855 Жыл бұрын
Myah and Yeseo where also my picks as I found them really talented. Yeseo’s professionalism when her mic fell in her Crazy cover really made her one of my pick. Also Myah was only one who stood out for me in Pretty U team. I also voted for Niki in I-Land as he was the best dancer in the show. If I find someone talented then I don’t care about their age or anything as I just look at talent.
@skdoremi6666
@skdoremi6666 Жыл бұрын
Please don't take it wrong but the problem with old idols like yujin is the lack of popularity....people pitied her because of the group disbandment ,they wanted for her another chance but and am being honest her being a leader or a member didn't advantage that group at all....no one is even talking about her, she simply isn't popular,never did go viral, never was she the talk of the town, the problem with kpop stan is the way they think old trainee deserve to debut because they trained for years....but again if they were good they would have debuted earlier......if yujin was good she would be the most popular member with her experience but she isn't....age shouldn't really matter, u can train for 7 years and still lack stage presence cause u r not fit for that career.....its just their dream and I understand but what the point if they don't contribute to the growth of the group? Yujin didn't bring fans,she didn't increase her popularity, she barely has a position there...but she is just happy to perform and be on stage.....in the end kepler as a whole tanked and not just because of wakeone.....that group didn't increase their popularity at all, if a young trainee gain popularity we should encourage it cause it may create an ace,something like jennie,like ive wonyoung, like haerin,kazuha....etc, and not disregard their potential because of their age, u can be young like haeyin and be more impactful than yujin....or older and impactful like sakura and Irene....it's all a matter of popularity.
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
opinion 4 is true not everyone trying to prevent iroha from debuting only bc she's a minor despite being much more skilled than the other ones younger than 05. it's still her dream and she made it to the survival show? so much for the "industry being too harsh for minors" when theyre literally making it harsh for her. they couldnt do anything abt her signing with the company and joining the show, so they try to boycott her. imagine how she feels when she gets eliminated or doesn't debut. and someone literally said "it's better than her debuting and getting traumatized". who r they to decide what's best for someone they dont even know? iroha already made the decision to attend a show meant for debuting HERSELF. who r they to infantilize her based on age as if all minors r the same? and nobody should be bullied or s3xualized and it sucks we cant do anything abt that. but who r we to gatekeep the younger ones with their own authority? failure is a part of life but if her age was the only problem then that'd be infuriating. she can't control her age, koreans would find someone "too old" while westerns would find someone "too young". even if she can get older while others can get younger. i get that the older ones "need to debut bc it's their "last chance"" (quoting some westerners) but they shld be voted bc they're talented and ready and not bc of age pity. i love how this creator always speaks on double standards and victimization, or how minors debuting is overexaggerated.
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
cant** get younger** and they act like the minor-voters are creeps or smth ☠ when it's just liking music like what u said in ur 2nd opinion koreans and westerners always want different things 😭
@erinjaackson
@erinjaackson Жыл бұрын
the hate on iroha and wonhee has been insane, the ones preaching 'protect minors' are the same ones telling them they dont deserve to make it into the group and have no problem saying unnecessarily negative things about them online
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Right! Iroha is one of my favorite contestants and i wanna see her debuting because i feel like she truly deserves it. Whether we vote for her or not, she’s still gonna find a way to become an idol, it’s not like we can stop her. I’m not the biggest fan of seeing very young idols debuting, but i’m not gonna vote for someone who i think deserves it less when i can vote for someone as good as her.
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
@@erinjaackson real thats been my point this entire time. theyre like "the industry is too harsh for minors to debut" but they proceed to hate on wonhee just bc she hasnt debuted bc they dont want her to debut 💀☠. i get that she isnt skilled enough or ready to debut yet and that other trainees esp older ones deserve it more bc theyve been training longer. but going around spreading "wonheew 🤢🤮" to anyone with her in their lineup goes too far
@ryujinlove6941
@ryujinlove6941 Жыл бұрын
The second opinion reminds me of people (specially female fans) of Enhypen that sexualise Niki and hes 17 FREAKING 17 and people are sexualising him like crazy , but people draw the line when some man stans NewJeans. Like be do fuckiung fr
@_sunoobubble_
@_sunoobubble_ Жыл бұрын
I think sexualising someone should never be done.. just because someone is over 18 and can be sexualised is so bad...yes you can praise them for being hot but zooming their crotch area and stuff is shameless
@eliquos
@eliquos Жыл бұрын
Ikr... some engene are so scary :(( I felt so bad for niki,esp when he'll turn 18 people are gonna even be wilder and use the excuse that he's already 18/legal age :((
@Slayoon
@Slayoon Жыл бұрын
It’s also annoying when people think you’re superficial because you happen to bias the visual. Especially for me a Sullyoon stan it’s annoying because my girl is actually talented and isn’t just eye candy. There are many reasons to bias her besides her visuals. Even if someone does choose their bias because of their visuals it’s honestly not that serious.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
I still remember people being surprised about how good of a vocalist she was, it’s like they were expecting her to be mediocre just because she was the visual 😒
@vixxexo6855
@vixxexo6855 Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon’s voice is so beautiful, I prefer her voice over Lily’s even tho Lily has better technique.
@sugasinfireration5863
@sugasinfireration5863 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the “don’t vote for minors” opinion. They shouldn’t be in K-pop and by not voting for them and spreading to not vote for them, fans can get that across. The industry throws more and more minors at us. When fans just go with it and don’t do anything nothing will change. These kids will also be skilled when they are grown up. No need for them to be exposed to the industry right now.
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon Жыл бұрын
The problem also is that K-Pop companies and K-Pop fans normalize the ''idols are too old if they are in their mid/late 20s to early 30s'' type of thing. If I look at groups like TVXQ, Super Junior and BIGBANG, K-Pop fans today want them to disband for being ''too old and too irrelevant''. Like, are you the one to decide who disbands or not? Ofcourse not. And the fact that these minors sacrifice so much of their lives, only to be faced with hate comments and being sexualized is just... damn.
@_Wonnielvrs
@_Wonnielvrs Жыл бұрын
5# I’ve been a BIG Wonyoung stan since I saw her on PD48 and I still stan her she’s like my role model and when I say that my bias is wony or I defend her from hate people start saying that I only Stan her because she’s pretty and she’s popular I love Wonyoung for her Goofy sweet personality and I see her as role model because she gives good advice
@lll.24601
@lll.24601 Жыл бұрын
Even after all this time, I still don’t get the hate for Wonyoung. She’s becoming one of my favourite members, but I was worried what everyone would think if I had her as a bias, because everyone hates her for no reason.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
If people actually got to know her they would know about her funny and kind personality as well as her talents, but of course they base their opinions on tik tok and only see her as a useless visual
@_Wonnielvrs
@_Wonnielvrs Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taeng Fr after she lip-synced once people started calling her talentless and that she can’t sing
@_Wonnielvrs
@_Wonnielvrs Жыл бұрын
@@lll.24601 honestly I dont care what people think if I’m a Wony biased I always was and always will be why do people think they have the write to judge us when they’re the ones being ridiculous and hating on her for absolutely no reason I also don’t understand how people switched up on her so fast one day they were in love with her and the next day they now hate her guts just because she’s being herself
@Mandombb
@Mandombb Жыл бұрын
Bruv samee. I’m a wony stan even before her viSuAL got noticed by knetz. Like she wasn’t even a visual line in IZ*ONE but ppl are like “ure just stanning her bc she’s pretty”😭
@heliaa11
@heliaa11 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for opinion 4. People act like if you vote for a minor you are a bad person and as a iroha supporter this makes me sad. When Iroha became no 1 in one round people said she didnt deserve just because she is a minor. I get if they want a no minor group but they cant hate her just because she is a minor.
@expensivepink7
@expensivepink7 Жыл бұрын
I AGREE SO MUCH WITH YOUR TAKE ABOUT IDOLS AND "PROMOTING EDS" it's insaneeeeee how much i see people say an idol is PROMOTING EDs when they have not commented on what they eat/don't eat to get their figure ONCE. ppl need to start taking responsibility for their own struggles if they want to get better and i say that as someone who has been thru it - u gotta grow as a person urself and u can't blame others for ur own issues
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 Жыл бұрын
First opinion is so true. Like the way Blackpink got attacked for twerking and Twice received nothing but praise
@mairalaurence8283
@mairalaurence8283 Жыл бұрын
Because tWiCe aRe GrOwN wOmEn and black pink are just disgusting 😒
@Verowinday777
@Verowinday777 Жыл бұрын
Twerking should be normalized,cause I don’t get why people even hate idols for twerking,that’s a ridiculous reason.
@taeynv_
@taeynv_ Жыл бұрын
Wdym Normalized?
@Verowinday777
@Verowinday777 Жыл бұрын
@@taeynv_ I don’t think I need to repeat my words,my comment was very easy to understand.
@taeynv_
@taeynv_ Жыл бұрын
@@Verowinday777it's not about repeating what you said I just asked what do mean by "twerking should be normalized", meaning: why and how, that's it 😭
@kpopworld749
@kpopworld749 Жыл бұрын
I agree with all except the first one because i have seen many fans telling this " since my faves got hate so your faves also deserves hate" and sometimes I feel these people don't care about idols reciving hate
@yeonneo
@yeonneo Жыл бұрын
As a 22 year old stan i feel good with the second one. I'm a female and not a male but i sometimes still get the "you are a pedo" for stanning New Jeans
@felixitations
@felixitations 9 ай бұрын
no #2 is so real like im a gay man. i stan both bg's and gg's. some people need to get it through their head that men can like artists for what they make and not what they look like.
@z00merang18
@z00merang18 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes i feel bad that im such an unhealthy person mentally but then i see shit like these and i feel better about myself
@ahlamsdiary
@ahlamsdiary Жыл бұрын
This video must be watched by every kpop stan
@rowanjoy419
@rowanjoy419 Жыл бұрын
Someone that is 16-17 would be an adult in 1-2 years so I have always see that as okay, because were I am, people graduate from highschool at that age and ten start working were they can be allow or go to university, so for me a person of 16-17 making a decision of being an idol is like someone who just finnished high school making a choice to go to university or find a job. But 15 and under is too young, because they are for sure still in school and are giving years of the youth to something that may don't even work out as they want it.
@rowanjoy419
@rowanjoy419 Жыл бұрын
For real, I thought I was weird because - I am bisexual and I stan both, but seeing how some women stan everglow, gidle and especially red velvet make me question if I was into girls xD because they were so over them.
@juncupid03
@juncupid03 Жыл бұрын
the 2nd one omg, it's so annoying when kpop stans always insult fanboys... not every men fan is a creep
@Yoest.1
@Yoest.1 Жыл бұрын
Opinion 3 sounds so off putting. The person who wrote this opinion needs to go outside and touch some grass cause imagine putting the blame on a person that you don’t even know because their weight triggers you.
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that i’ve heard multiple people throwing this opinion around, not just one 😭 If you get triggered by someone simply existing that’s literally a you problem, these people are insane
@rsecherry
@rsecherry Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
@Sa_Na18
@Sa_Na18 Жыл бұрын
Some people's doesn't bias popular member because they want to victim play the less popular one , and it's ridiculous
@rayanaloufi7214
@rayanaloufi7214 Жыл бұрын
For number 5. i always find myself stanning the memebrs who are not the most popular in the group. idk how to explain it but it's just the same as listening to songs. i don't really pay attention/listen to hit songs as much as underrated songs, songs that don't chart well, and b-sides. it just attracts me because it aligns with my taste more. and i think if we flipped the table, some kpop stans bias the popular member because they use them in fanwars. sometimes they give the vibe that they live through their faves' lives and they always want them on top. they also use their popularity to hate on the other members or discredit them. idk if this is the case w anyone else but this is just based on my experience.
@faithstarr0
@faithstarr0 Жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about #2. I have constantly been attacked for defending men liking girl groups with minors. generalizing their male audience to only being creeps is harmful & toxic.
@aleahscottage
@aleahscottage Жыл бұрын
Nah fr my general rule for survival show voting is 16 and up, because that tends to be much more mature. I've only gone against that in cases of extreme talent. That is with Himena from R U Next. The thing is that she most likely won't debut through them, and therefore probably won't debut for at least another year if she stays under hybe, landing her in that 16 y/o terrirory. But I vote to give her support and also let the company know we are interested in her. But yeah. Other shows like My teenage girl where just weird with the amount of minors... And the name. (not saying hybe was fine having ena on the show. It wasn't. it was weird.)
@green360z
@green360z Жыл бұрын
Himena reminds me so much of Lisa in her rookie era
@WonHakWoon
@WonHakWoon Жыл бұрын
The last one is so true. Like I have experienced it myself, that people were shitting on me simply because my taste was different from theirs. I mean, aside from K-Pop I love rock (classic and hardrock) aswell as heavy metal. That would make me a person with no taste? Bruh... K-Pop fans today are so immature, they even want to make out what you must listen to whether you like it or not... and that's quite concerning
@lis1279
@lis1279 Жыл бұрын
For the second opinion, I think a distinction should be made. I think anyone can stan any group that they like, you do you. What is my problem is when older people (like old enough to be the parents of the idols) stan groups as if they were still young. I saw a clip of a fan meet with NewJeans and their fans and their were male fans that were so much older than the actual members. To me that is creepy, it reminds me of the phrase "young at heart" but the problem is that they aren't young. Maybe I'm over thinking it. I personally try to not support groups that have members that are still underage or at the very least all the members are within my own age range. Thoughts?
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
I think it also depends on how “obsessed” these older stans are. It’s weird if you’re 40 and collect photocards of a 14 year old, but it’s not that weird if you simply go to a concert/fansign because you like their music and performances. Last but not least, what personally bothers me is that nobody even cares if a grown ass woman goes to a fansign of a boy group with young members, but if it’s a man going to a girl group fansign that’s disgusting. I’m a girl myself but this type of double standard pisses me off because girls can be creepy as well.
@lis1279
@lis1279 Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taeng I too am a girl and am a boy group fan. I've seen how Niki from Enhypen (even though he is part of a group I personally don't listen to) has been sexualized time and time again and people don't say anything. I'm in shock cuz I'm like if that were a girl people would be outraged! Although this next thought is a little off topic, I cant help but be reminded of cringey and creepy situations obsessive fans put their so called "favorite idols" into. I'm not saying that all female boy group stans are weird (because they arent) but the types of things they think they can get away with is actually disgusting. For example, Vernon from Seventeen and his fan call where a fan was "arresting him for being too sexy" and demanding him to "kiss her." There's also the fan call with Beomgyu from TXT where a fan literally wrote a script for him to act like a dog as well as the uncomfortable clip of a fan shameless asking Hyunjin from Straykids to call her mommy multiple times. This is all to say that anyone can be creepy and that the double standard need to change.
@audreyparmenter2000
@audreyparmenter2000 Жыл бұрын
Okay. I'll try to explain the not voting for minor thing. Some K-Pop stans don't like the idea of the public voting for minors. They feel like the people who vote for minors are encouraging the debuting minors thing. So people say, "Oh, don't vote for So-and-So because they are underage." I understand what you mean by some minors being talented. The thing is, not every person is going to have the same idea. Some might think that a sixteen-year-old is a minor, while others might say that a thirteen-year-old is a minor. Then we have the idea of audience. The people who tell others to not vote for minors might be worried about adults seeing the minors in an not so innocent manner. Like you said, this does not mean that these people have the right to impose their opinions on the voters. But, we must try to see where they're coming from.
@ermbtspavedtheway
@ermbtspavedtheway Жыл бұрын
i subbed because you are awesome, keep it up :))
@josiahlewis5838
@josiahlewis5838 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with every one of these. There is so much opinions I've heard that I think are legit horrible I don't even know where to start. Buy I can't stand the " he or she shouldn't be part of the group because he or she is: insert flaw here* " just absolutely ridiculous. Excuse me I didn't realize the CEO was commenting on KZbin shorts.
@Shuaspell
@Shuaspell 9 ай бұрын
Another one i have but idk if should be like bothered from is " if xx idol can do it then he or she can also do it "
@lena21ever2
@lena21ever2 Жыл бұрын
For the number 4, the responsibility of having no underage members shouldn't fall on fans shoulders it's a company issue! But with how kpop is evolving, im scared that companies will keep on debuting younger and younger idols...
@htetlinoo3587
@htetlinoo3587 Жыл бұрын
#4 was bleeding true unless companies gave inappropriate concept
@JoyceAmponsah-qq5wc
@JoyceAmponsah-qq5wc Жыл бұрын
Opinion 5 needs to be addressed more!
@Hellokitty_391
@Hellokitty_391 11 ай бұрын
As a mingyu biased and wonyoung biased this is so true 😭
@cottoncandyflavouredicecream
@cottoncandyflavouredicecream Жыл бұрын
you gained a subscriber
@terra5857
@terra5857 Жыл бұрын
yeah “don’t vote for minors” never made sense to me if we’re talking abt 17 yr olds 💀 like in ru next ena is 12 so i understand that bc wtf but a 17 yr old is abt to be 18 like bro
@Ilikecats0123
@Ilikecats0123 Жыл бұрын
You’re speaking FACTS
@whitepuppy8886
@whitepuppy8886 Жыл бұрын
YOU ATE
@nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711
@nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711 Жыл бұрын
If u don't agree with an opinion on this video U should ask yourself why tbh Amazing work
@milky_quartz
@milky_quartz Жыл бұрын
bias ain't even that serious, and it cam change or have multi. like in twice I like mina cuz she's from texas like sandy from spongebob, and jihyo because she's mexican/latina
@sof9219
@sof9219 Жыл бұрын
1. Skinny idols are NOT promoting eating disorders, their company made them skinny by following diets, if their company would allow them to eat other foods i'm sure they'll be happy. 2. 'YoU CaN't VoTe FoR MiNoRs On SuRvIvAl ShOwS' ofc i can, it's so easy, i would not vote for the youngest one tho, but in survival shows probably more than half of the contestants are minors, so you have no other choice. 3. 'yOu cAn'T oNlY lIsTeN tO kPoP' wait what? Can't ppl just let fans listen to which music they want to listen to.
@4m3mory
@4m3mory Жыл бұрын
opinion 3 SPITTING FACTS bruh
@angelili11
@angelili11 Жыл бұрын
Opinion 2 is half-correct imo, because females really don't see people like males, I'm fine with a male simply listening to a gg or stanning them it's the obsession when it starts being concerning
@imnotnonono
@imnotnonono Жыл бұрын
I've seen girls say disgusting things ab ateez san, skz bang chan, NCT & so on. Not even getting started on enhypen niki (who's a minor). People of any gender can objectify idols, but I don't think stanning equals obsession & objectification
@angelili11
@angelili11 Жыл бұрын
@@imnotnonono i absolutely agree, it's just my own experience
@softsquishysuga
@softsquishysuga Жыл бұрын
Heyyy I’m early ❤🎉
@rxbiluhvrp
@rxbiluhvrp Жыл бұрын
My opinions on these: 1: No 2: No 3: No?? 4: Yes you can. 5: Are you crazy? 6: There’s nothing wrong with it.
@Eunwoo29409
@Eunwoo29409 Жыл бұрын
Liz is mistreated 😂😂 feel free to laugh with me
@L.adislav
@L.adislav Жыл бұрын
Agree
@angel.heart1-0
@angel.heart1-0 Жыл бұрын
EARLYY
@dipikaoyshee604
@dipikaoyshee604 Жыл бұрын
First comment please reply
@soft4taeng
@soft4taeng Жыл бұрын
Heyyy 👋☺️
@dipikaoyshee604
@dipikaoyshee604 Жыл бұрын
@@soft4taeng thank you 💕
@paris9700
@paris9700 Жыл бұрын
‼️‼️‼️ Please answer You earn money through your videos?
@skdoremi6666
@skdoremi6666 Жыл бұрын
1. Garam situation and riize scandal is a double standard. 2. Agree with you, nothing wrong with men or boys staning girl group. Another double standard. 2. No I think some of them do promote skinny body shape. Am against obesity and skinny bodies. 3. I vote for my fav,regardless of their ages or skills, they may be 22 yo and talented but I just don't click with them. 4. Again I stan the idol that click with my personality,some of fans like visuals which r the most popular and that's okay it's their choices. 5. Agree with u, I listen to whatever I like, am not listening to kpop all the time but I am into kpop by staning a group...which make me involve in all aspect of their career. If its a good song I will listen to it but am not camping under every gg/bg release just because I like kpop.......if its not a song for me I just don't watch or listen to that group.
@aubreyhiii
@aubreyhiii Жыл бұрын
I’m so early
@singularity_atm6476
@singularity_atm6476 Жыл бұрын
Soul saying the n word comes to mind in double standard discussion.
@aubreyhiii
@aubreyhiii Жыл бұрын
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