Solo League has an unfixable problem

So, I’m just gonna put this out there: Solo Power League was a mistake.
Yup, I said it, no going back.
Ok, ok, so let’s backtrack a little.
In a previous video, I suggested a fix for Power League to make it much more “bearable”, let’s say. But after a VERY unhealthy amount of time spent arguing on Discord, I came to the realisation that Solo Power League has a massive issue that actually cannot be fixed.
I call this issue “the Gold Prison Dilemma”.
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[@dorito8995]

Bruh ur just a bad player trying to get gold and not blaming it on himslef

[@zreplaysguides]

I don't player power league at all. But yeah, that is exactly what I'm saying. This whole video can be summarised to: "Get really good or don't play Power League."

[@CoffeeSubset]

@@zreplaysguides xd the video was uploaded two months ago and you pinned the comment of someone who commented today why?

[@zreplaysguides]

@@CoffeeSubset Because I know there's gonna be a sea of these people 😒

[@drew8f7rn48]

Pin of shame

[@hi-ht4bh]

@@zreplaysguides insane comeback

[@justaguy4877]

"U cant carry hard enough as randoms can throw" - my favorite quote for brawl stars

[@zreplaysguides]

For the games that have such randoms, yes.

[@fabian8991]

@@zreplaysguides pain league all this stupid Radoms

[@theotherguynig]

@@fabian8991 Agreed with the randoms I get :/ Power league becomes pain league :/

[@fabian8991]

@@theotherguynig true um Stuck at Gold 2 in solo team u want to focuus in solo powerleague but i cant cuse Radoms trash i want Diamant 1

[@theotherguynig]

@@fabian8991 I have reached Diamond 1 but pushing is still pain I avoid it cause you have to sweat like shit just for some star points and skins which others are receive for free from your effort

[@BrokenBS]

As A mythic in both teams and solo, i can safely say that solo sometimes has gods and sometimes idiots, but teams is always sweaties

[@gabrielaleactus9932]

Yeaaa !!!..... Sweat lords assemble

[@chrisbsgr.383]

@@gabrielaleactus9932 lol

[@panda_casts]

I do like this video but I feel like the underlying assumption that the argument hinges on is fundamentally flawed. The assumption, that I've noted from the video is that the skill level of a good random and a bad random is a constant in each case. What you're saying is that with enough randoms, you'll reach a point where the average level of skill will be balanced out and that the differentiating factor would be you. The thing is skill isn't a constant. A random, isn't good in a binary sense, where they're either 0 or 1, "bad" or "good". Skill is a spectrum, with good randoms it'll be a vast difference between decent and actually good and this applies for bad randoms as well. Basically, the fact that your assumption relies heavily on this constant skill value invalidates your arguments here. The next issue is that skill is multi-faceted. There's being mechanically skilled which is probably the easiest to improve upon. Then there's being decent at draft, which is a tall order for most as most of the players are lower ELO have a stunted understanding of matchups. And finally, there's game sense. If any one of these are lacking, you'll be decent at best. If multiple are lacking, you'll end up being a burden. I don't mean to detract from your message, but it's superficial at best. Btw, for Z's fans. I'm also a fan. Don't hate me. I'm just pointing this out for his benefit and for his future content. :D

[@zreplaysguides]

The reason I took good and bad as so is because in a previous experiment I did, I needed a way to define a random as good or bad. So I wrote a description of what counts as a bad random and ran it through the highladder peeps on my server. In this video, when I say "good" or "bad", I'm referring to people who fall into my definition of good and bad from the previous video. When I say "evens out", I'm not referring to the skill level of the players. I'm referring to whether or not a player is good or bad, as per my aforementioned definition.

[@GenesisValt]

Ayeee it's you panda :D

[@olaoluwaakomolede2421]

Although essentially, the flipping a coin analogy is still applicable here. With enough games, the differentiating skill level should still level out to a certain level, and your ability to ‘carry’ randoms at that level will determine whether you progress. You make a valid point, but it doesn’t change the validity of the argument.

[@sekel_cz660]

While skill is not binary, it quite evens out anyway. Player skill is not constant as well. There are game mods I like better than others and within them, there are maps I like more than other maps. And from time to time, I make crazy mistake and throw the whole game even on my best maps. There are days when I rock and there are days I am just terrible. Sometimes, I am lucky, sometimes I got 3 AFK players in a row. But over the time and hundreds of games, I must admit I am at the rank I deserve to be.

[@Joelwilvar]

Dude wrote his whole life story

[@sekel_cz660]

This is soo true. It took me several months to accept this as fact. But my second F2P account perfectly proved this to me. I was able to go really fast up to Gold with like 3 brawlers with Star Powers. But in diamond I am stuck simply becase I am only average player with skill matching diamond ranks.

[@thomassf3]

That one guy flipping a coin and landing it on its side:

[@inbaa4098]

The explanation you gave for theoretical probability is correct for coins… so as you said experimental probability will become equal to theoretical probability since its a 50 50 chance in coins. But its not the same case for randoms since the chance is not 50 50 and it is like 80:20 (bad random:good random) so the theoretical probability wont be equal to experimental probability like the coins

[@AntonioMottaAtor]

Another thing that I feel it goes on top of that is the fact that it is way easier to a bad random to throw a game than it is to a good player to carry a game.

[@EnnioEvo]

I hit M3 in PL solo I can tell you that on gold and diamond ranks you have to just get a brawler to carry forget the lanes, forget the coordination, just take best brawler on the map and go on your own With these super strong new brawler you can literally 1vs3, like Fang, Ash but also Biron or piper

[@jachi1824]

Ur ingame Name Ennio Evo?

[@EnnioEvo]

@Jachi yes

[@deadagain-brawlstars]

Everyone is a bad random at some occasions-not me ofc-so just grow up and take control into your own hands, remember you learn the most in those matches

[@IanMarcoDuco-wf2yh]

Sometimes you get bad randoms, sometimes you are the bad random

[@meat8768]

I wholeheartedly agree, i was stuck in solo Gold II-III in seasons 5-10, but in this season got to Diamond II because i had actual good teammates

[@sarcastic2731]

And this is why I wish we still had power play. People could only pick maxed out brawlers and you knew on which map you would play,thus being able to pick brawlers that you need more easily. Another point is that you had 3 games each day,you did not have to sweat and even if you lost,you still got progress.

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

power play was a disgrace aside from the constant flow of starpoints

[@hydroarx]

What about the factor of BEING carried? Thought I'd put that out there for some consideration. Regardless, this was a really well structured and detailed analysis and it was very interesting to watch!

[@Evoleth]

The factor of being carried gets cancelled when you lose bcs of 2 bad randoms (I think)

[@JeanOgre26]

the "good" randoms are probably those similar to your skill level or better. bad would be the counterpart.

[@nachtfaust713]

3:54 Judging From my experience playing PL since release until now where I barely play this is not what I experienced. I experienced that more than about 80% of my randoms do not understand the game and counters and get carried by either me or the enemies play so bad that we win. What also happened a lot power league randoms below mythic seem to love low skill brawlers, Jessie, Nita, bo, penny and the enemies playing so bad the feed supers very fast which is also a reason why I won. Recently this season I decided to play a little on my mini account and got diamond 3 with a win streak of 8 I got star player 6 out of 8 games. The biggest problem with power league is there are very few players who actually understand the game and a big playerbase allowed to play this gamemode(4500 Trophies+) and In my opinion it's not a 50/50 chance to get a good random.

[@ellagage1256]

I play Jessie in PL since I'm used to her and her turret can carry hard in Heist, but man do people not know what maps to pick her on. Whenever I see a teammate of mine use Shocky and Recoil Spring outside of hesit I just sigh

[@sohambanerjee8026]

@@ellagage1256 jessie isn't even viable in anything other than heist and certain gem grab maps as a B or C tier pick... but about the gadget and star power everyone isn't P2W and does not have all star powers and gadgets like for me with Bo I have just circling eagle and not the stun star power... now in cases like safe zone where bo is good, I pick him given the chance although I don't have the right star power to prevent my enemies or low level team mate from picking him... Better than nothing I guess...

[@ellagage1256]

@@sohambanerjee8026 She's also a pretty good counterpick to Pam and she's pretty strong atm

[@sohambanerjee8026]

@@ellagage1256 well you can have your opinions but I disagree because pam at close range destroys jessie if there was no turret placed with jessie and at long range pam has better area control and jessie won't stand a chance to even get near because pam would just dodge shots if the pam player is good at dodging and knows to hold lanes... She is strong at low or mid ladder but at high ladder or competitive other than those 2 or 3 maps as a C Tier or B Tier at best brawler and a few maps on gem grab she isn't viable enough, she is not trash but not that great to be considered "Strong".

[@hakrr8914]

Ya, also there are also people who intentionally let the enemy team win, or quit the game in the middle of the match (although there is a temporary ban system)

[@legendavid11111]

YES FINALLY THIS IS SO TRUE IM A 40k WHO WAS STUCK IN GOLD AND FINALLY MADE IT TO DIAMOND 3 (where they still suck) but made it out the gold prison

[@butchcassidy887]

I have other issues with this mode. In Season 9 I was able to climb from Diamond 2 to Mythic 1 with a 70%ish win rate. However, now I'm severely struggling to get Out of Diamond 1. I swear, every second game one of my randoms literally throws or goes afk instantly. This is not even an understatement, I simply can not win a 2v3.

[@AntonioMottaAtor]

I feel your pain, bro.

[@vegitogogita531]

yup true, moving from gold to diamond was the toughest, but later it was easy

[@reecejoyce5183]

I think a big problem is the fact that we assume this is a totally random factor which randoms you get on your team. But in most cases with most other games (haven't checked with brawl stars) a good player will get consistently matched with bad players in order to make the game even, it happens to me all too often I play with people who I literally beat 2/3 games ago. Games nowadays split the gap too much between pros and casual. You get penalised for being good but not pro enough to carry two people vs what will later on in higher ranks, become other good players. If I'm at mythic I cant carry 2 people who really shouldn't be here against two good mythics but have been given 'good'players to carry them

[@raika7236]

a primo in my team just teamed up with the opponent, and oviously we lost. Supercell bans player who dodge the matchmaking but what about those who willingly throw the game?

[@picanha694]

Just quit. Its pointless argueing with a giant company who only wants your money

[@Raveded]

​@@picanha694clearly you haven't heard about other companies

[@wunmik8026]

I was stuck in silver for awhile. Took metas and no skill brawlers to escape to around diamond to mythic where i belong

[@happygamer3342]

I think I got more info about the topic ‘Probability’ than power league 😂 You should be a teacher Z replays !

[@mmmlol-bb1be]

I think more factors could be taken into account: 1. Assuming that the good to bad random ratio is 1:1 is already a mistake as how competitive to casual ratio is always low so will the good to bad random ratio be. This is furthur aggravated by the fact that most of the good players avoid playing solo league and most of the bad ones avoid playing team. 2. If a person is good enough to carry a bad random then the random's progress is just as much as the good player. And if the bad random gets err... bad randoms then he loses just as much as them. Assuming that the enemy team and the blue team has the same competitive to casual ratio hence there's always at least one bad random on each team, it means that the random is stuck in place just like the one trying to push. So neither the random gets demoted to lower leagues and nor does the one trying to push progresses above. 3. The simple solution could be to just take personal stats into account. Like the amount of contribution to your team affects your progression forward or backwards. This would lead to a faster demotion to lower leagues of the random and faster promotion to higher league for the pusher. And both of the things will improve the current state of power league.

[@zreplaysguides]

I left a reply to a similar comment in the pinned.

[@kundu8750]

There is a problem with the last point. Brawl stars has several roles such as support, tanks ,damage dealers. Support are aslo damage based, heal based. So you can't take the personal stats on the basis of damage dealt in the match/damage taken, amount healed. Even if you do so, (for example, healing 1000 health gives 1 point in rank) since healing is much easier with Byron, so people will choose byron and it will be unfair. There is no way you can provide the points on personal stats.

[@mmmlol-bb1be]

@@kundu8750 I actually didn't mean it that way. I meant it like by using a specific measure of the contribution to a team, the most contributor has a positive +1 score, the middle one has 0 while the lower one -1. It only makes the ever slightest difference, but that can stack over time by playing many matches. Of course its difficult to measure such "contribution constant" for each type of brawler. But i think for that we could use the ratio of the competitive averages for each stat. The constant won't depend on a single stat but many of them at a whole. This would also encourage people to actually pay attention to drafts and choose the best brawler for its best map and mode. Like you could reduce the contribution value at heist by a healer and you could maximize that value in gem grab. The amount of boost you can get is inflexible so even if you heal 1000000 points of health more, you will only receive the boost of being the best contributor. I am sorry if i couldn't explain it right. I am still learning english.

[@kundu8750]

@@mmmlol-bb1be you explained it perfectly But the point is that's actually impossible in this type of games. You can't measure how good the player is on the basis of damage/healing, because there is something called pushing the lanes. Like you can push your lane with a buzz (people tends to go away from him in order to prevent him from charging his super). This way you are helping your teammates without dealing damage /healing. The value of contribution can't be measured. Like if you provide contribution points for scoring in brawl ball, that's unfair, because a bull is more capable of scoring than a tick.

[@mmmlol-bb1be]

@@kundu8750 Hmm. Didn't think about that. I guess it actually is impossible. Though you could use the average survival time as a substitute for the contribution in laning? And isn't scoring for a bull one of its perks of being a tank? Anyways if we go on this it would have no end. So let's end it here itself

[@Dalipoko]

1 year later and this is still unfortunately true. I’m 56k trophies and legendary 3 (team league). Safe to say I’m not incompetent. However, when you’re indefinitely stuck at diamond 1 carrying the absolute shit out of your team, you start to think differently. Then your realize supercell is doing this on purpose and abandon solo all together 😊

[@goodprince5327]

Bro I have been saying that for months. There is a "bug"where when you win 2+ power league matches in a row the algorithm will match you with weak teammates who lock first pick Bo, Edgar or Jessie. This happens on purpose I cant explain it otherwise. I know I will lose when I m the captain of my team. Usually the first 2 matches I ll have teammates that are higher rank than me and we play great against other high ranks. After that 2 games I will be the captain of the team. What am I suppose to do when my first teammate will lock Penny or Edgar and go against higher rank players with at least 40k trophies? The first 2 games you win is all in vein if you cant HARD carry ur randoms next. I told that to Frank on Twitter and he said "neither of these are a thing 😅". I think they are a thing on purpose cause they want people to spent more time playing the game

[@sekel_cz660]

While I have literally the same feeling, the Spen F2P or Cori nuzlocke series proves we are wrong. They can carry so hard, that Penny, Bo or Edgar seem to work. They can adapt to situation, play lane with mid brawler and mid with the lane brawler. They know when to push, when to retreat, and most importantly, how to not die. In pro players video it seems soo easy, but I would lose like 50% of those games.

[@svedzmusik236]

The thing which ur forgetting is you have 2 randoms and ur opponent has 3. So if ur good you will eventually rank up as you are more likely to have a better team than ur opponent

[@supersadra8689]

Me :trying to carry My randoms : no we don't do that here(throws)

[@Brawlingstar]

man resumed an entire math unit in under 2 mins

[@cosmicpekka1442]

Man thanks u really gave a good lecture on probability and i am not joking really thanks

[@Kai-Hiwatari]

This is the best video you’ve ever done

[@pain2751]

Very great analysis, im a code developer and you mention about carrying random in order to escape the prison. Well as a programmer point of view, we can also reduce the caryying by improving the match making systematically. Of course its easier said than done, just another point of view

[@picanha694]

Brawlstars algorithm is just shit. I got low rank teammates 9/10 times. Level 9 9 9 against 11 11 11 all day

[@picanha694]

Supercell's code developer needs to go to hell for ruining people's experience.

[@SeouLCity2]

The biggest issue is diamond rank is considered top 400 in Canada. Why do we lose more progress on a loss in gold and barely any on a win. It isn’t legendary rank

[@pratyushnath4212]

I agree on this carry potential. Power league has been out for quite a few seasons now and I realized a long time ago that I win more games when I am the player with the least elo. My other better teammates carry me sometimes but mostly I play decently well that I can match their level and not be a liability. But where I basically struggle the most is when I have the ban and I know my other teammates are most likely worse than I am. I don't have a record but I am pretty sure the data will support this. My win-rate is very low when I have the ban compared to when I am the first pick for my team. I know I cannot carry hard enough. I need mates better than me to make the game winnable. That's why I finished with only 2 wins this lantern challenge when I was try harding with Gale playing with randoms and I had to buy 2 attempts in the 1st April challenge to complete it with randoms. I am hovering around Diamond 1 and 2 for the past 3 seasons and I know it has to do with my carry potential which sucks. I used to blame it on not having flex brawlers which are easy to play and are good like Sandy, Crow or Spike (F2P pain) but it's truly honestly not being able to play aggressive and playing very scared and safe. One can't carry like that. This is true because I have tilted down to even gold 2 but my climb back was easier and quicker than I thought but I can't carry games in Diamond 2. I need someone better than me and I will hold my own but if I am the best player on my team, it's GG. Surprised how much I could relate. Never thought someone would think about this and make a video on it. Thanks! Eases my pain a little XD.

[@sleepyfella]

Exactly with me, and I think not only me but this is the case with most people, whenever I get ban we mostly lose because my teammates are trash and they dont take suggestions and go bo/prnny or any trash picks and play bad. But whenever there is higher elo player we win because I can hold my weight but can't carry 2 bots

[@sekel_cz660]

Hi guys, same here. The point is, that my carrying potential is limited to Gold I, Gold II rank. From Gold III rank, I need to get decent team mates, otherwise I lose. Diamond rank is my limit and I sweat a lot there. BTW: Randoms in challenges are story of its own, but surprisingly, for my 9k trophies F2P account is it more viable option than "looking for a team" option. Looking for a team feature pairs me with two 9k trophies players, which is like instant loss combo. With randoms, there is solid chance for at least one decent player. And thats winnable situation.

[@pratyushnath4212]

@@sekel_cz660 I used the look for a team feature in one of the challenges a few days ago on my main account and I had 2 great teammates. On my mini with 3k trophies, I do much better playing with randoms probably because people I face are new too and it's not that tough to carry. But opponents on my main are tougher and demand harder carrying.

[@jensvanmeerveld6068]

So true. Stuck at mythic ll at the moment

[@slipperssniper]

Ppl: ”BS is for kids” BS players:

[@_ash.ish_06_]

Ok,so here's my thoughts... I was once at diamond 1 at the start of solo PL like season 2 or season 3. As you all know, the next season it reset the rank. And then try this video is just what happened to me. I just couldn't climb up to diamond 1 after that. And the chance the you will get a bad random team is more than 50/50 and it becomes like 30/70 or 20/80[Good random /Bad random]. For this just go and check spen lc's f2p series where he crossed gold 3 to diamond 1...I am pretty sure he got bad randoms and carrying gets harder. And this shows that why I was able to push to Diamond 1 on the first few seasons. In fact on season 1 [the shortest season I believe] was the easiest season to push to Diamond 1 or even higher like mythic 1 even if the player is average.Reaching Masters was easier for competitive players but the season was too short for it.(even though some players grinded so hard and got it) Thanks for reading. Reply @Ze is this true?

[@Mirages0]

I literally just played solo with a crow and he took all the gems, then at LAST SECOND he RUSHED to the enemy and THREW the game and then BLAME IT ON ME AND THE OTHER GUY

[@Asim-oc3zd]

Now isn't just about bad randoms there is lv11 it make it so mush Complicated

[@thugpandabs3805]

If Z would be our maths teacher we would surely top our classes🤣

[@Razorrr_]

fr

[@Kasebett]

That's some interesting opinion. I actually really like it, it made me think from a different perspective. You totally deserve more support, keep it up!

[@FRIDGEYTHEGOAT]

Eventually you'll ascend to a higher level after enough power league games played. You are the bad random, and you've become what you always despised...

[@Brian_Le]

I think another factor you have to take in is that us, humans can learn and improve over time so the 50% win rate could go higher if you improve at the game.

[@AmlacSerdarikoGarbec6931]

power play>power league

[@VarunDoesMaths]

Woah……. Mind blown.. That’s amazing…

[@hakrr8914]

I totally agree with what u r saying. But I noticed another thing, that the enemy team is more likely to get a bad random (if yourself is not one) because there are 2 uncertain players on your team and 3 uncertain players on the enemy team. For every match, the enemy has 3 chances to get bad randoms and your team has 2 chances of getting bad randoms. So on the long term, if you are not a bad random, your win rate is higher because the enemy team would get more bad randoms. Just saying, the experimental probability will not always be equal to the theoretical probability because we need infinitely many tries to achieve the theoretical probability,

[@lightthief3470]

Great video except for one thing, you are playing no-hat Mortis :O

[@jowinng135]

I am on diamond 3 and my highest is mythic 1 :). To be fair, skill is essential but teamwork is what allows you to progress. For example, You are dominating your lane during the match while your 2 bad randoms lose their lanes. The control ratio is 2:1 against your favor. Therefore, I blame the randoms instead of my skill.

[@BM64MGVODa]

Me when you need to be better than your current rank in order to move to a higher rank

[@srivatsan43]

This is absolutely true. I have known this since second season of Power League and hence didn't even try to get out of Gold 3/Diamond 1. I'd just complete 60 wins (or whatever it was back in the days) and quit Power League for that season.

[@McPersun]

A BETTER way to think about this is You are good? Yes You have 2 random They have 3 random The chance that you get a shit random is less than them getting a shit random

[@zero_idk28]

Soo relatable I've been stuck for 3 season on gold

[@Indian-357]

I am also in gold 1 I also think there should be more changes

[@zeitgeist265]

if power league system had an mmr rating which is a hidden skill level that the matchmaking algorithm would calculate based on the more matches you play, and aim to match people of a similar mmr than that of the same PL rank, then things would seem a bit better. Speaking from POV of other competitive games

[@whyismyimageunavailable378]

Randoms are the reason. I always get teammates that pick an underleveled Edgar on a far ranges map 😐

[@dilqn808]

I have more than 40 hours played in Diamond II - Diamond III, earlier today I literally 1v3ed with Tick in knockout, I am carrying sometimes my randoms, but it won't match me with good teammates, I have been stuck at Diamond III for 7 months now, it's so... Bad

[@RitikKumar-dl9oq]

In first half of this video it's like a maths lecture 😂

[@GhostHunterDipperPines]

This makes me feel good about being in diamond 2

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

but if youre hardstuck diamond 2 its the same thing ust a different color

[@GhostHunterDipperPines]

@@3twibles4sweetrevenge well I like the color blue more than yellow so at least I have that going for me. Plus more star points.

[@tntop2905]

I literally play only solo power league and tilted from gold 2 to silver 3

[@lightthief3470]

Power league has gone the way of Power play for me... I don't play it anymore :l

[@sju6290]

9erfect video, hobestly. This also applies to every other team game. I’ve played a lot of other team games competetively and I can tell yall that only play this one thing: be happy there are only 2 teammates to carry not 3-5.

[@squidtoastman]

Love these videos! I recently quit clash royale because it’s too ptw and you make the best brawl vids by far 😄

[@soya.sauce.knight]

This actually makes sense

[@ervin9496]

For me I'm stuck in diamond 1-3, there are times where my randoms are actually decent and when I'm almost at Mythic it all falls apart

[@zpassive6401]

Potatoes are brown and yellow germany has 3 colours in its flag dogs bark can you talk more kindergarden Things like "to climb you need to be better" because thats really helpful

[@2nonly863]

I'm stucked in Silver The randoms are so bad

[@gajgfhdss287]

Power league is still not a mistake, it's a fun competitive gamemode, the bad randoms are the mistake not the mode

[@ezraduncan9242]

Bro I was on snakes prairie on takedown and this goofy ahh edgar died 5 times and got no kills and did the least damage

[@ezraduncan9242]

And I lost💀

[@sakardallakoti7039]

it should be that you get more elo in lower league in win lose less on a loss which would be a progress even it is a chance of 50/50. but on higher league current system is fine.

[@Ocean_Forever]

3:18 ok but listen to this. Yesterday I was playing gale in Ramadan challenge and I was constantly team wiping but u know what? Randumbs, My teammates missed seven baskets 😩

[@stb7479]

I think a part of it is correct. I was mythic 2 and I think I was quite a bit better then average players from m2. Then comes the luck, 50/50. I manage to carry my team and have a bit higher win rate then 50%. But I still don't push up in the rank, why? Of is because you lose more elo then you get from winning the game. This is maybe also a but of an unsolveable problem, I think, except supercel delete that part. Let me know what you think about is please. Sorry for my English. Good video though😀!

[@AntonioMottaAtor]

Exactly! I have to play impecable and in the end almost no elo. In the next match, a random will throw hard and I'll lose 2x that

[@nobill1217]

I rarely play power league matches.

[@DrippyGoku812]

I wish Z was my maths teacher.

[@TheSotexy2]

I’m 43k total and a decent player. I constantly get 16-20k total who don’t know how to play and I have a hard time getting out of diamond 1&2. Like that tic in the first video clip. Mortis had 9 gems and went for the 10th but the tic tried to get it. Just stupid

[@sohambanerjee8026]

excellently explained

[@ninninbane8044]

This is true but I wish the randoms will carry me instead of me carrying them I got to diamond and immediately went back down to gold because of randoms I can't carry hard enough in diamond because everyone there is good, the same as me but randoms make it either unbalanced or balanced depending on ur randoms skill

[@ethan461]

We also have to take into account the fact that the power league season resets every 70 days and people lose elo, so technically, is the average person’s elo going down considering that it’s win rate is 50%? Great video btw

[@notwojki5060]

new vid yay

[@carldablob324]

Something I just HAVE to point out: if a player cannot carry, then he won't progress in power league, as you said. But if a player can carry, he will indeed progress, and will go upthe ranks. This means that once you progress, you will find randoms that also carried in other ranks. If they carried, their in game skill would be higher, so they will be close to yours. As you progress in ranks, the skill differences between you and your randoms will get smaller, so you will need to carry less in order to progress. Or the other way, when you get the occasional, way less common then it used to be bad random, you probably won't be able to carry them in those higher leagues...

[@cariogenic]

This is true but you’re assuming theres an equal amount of bad randoms as good randoms.

[@amaury8463]

They should just make some kind of actual solo mode for power league (maybe showdown where kills give elo or duels) duels would also match the ban and pick phase we already have in power matches

[@KevinSmith-np1kz]

Very good video, the definition of carry league for pl is on point. (cocogoat lmao)

[@void_serenade]

I've been playing from 6 months and stuck at diamond 1

[@sunilmalik8317]

I'm just stating facts that , am i supposed to be this good that i have to carry a lvl 3 tick on hard rock mine ? I'm not a pro or smth i think imma average player who knows how to counter pick . This is the biggest problem with power league that 80-90% of ppl don't know how to pick brawlers

[@ronn6771]

It really hurts on gold because it's the beginning of the high ranks. It's either you get morons with power 9 brawlers or under leveled players. I've been stuck on Gold II since last season because I keep getting horrible comps on solo league and most of my enemies were power 11 already. Edit: After watching the video I've come to the fact that one of the massive flaws includes COINS. As an average player who's pushed about all my brawlers to a significant amount, power levels play a huge factor here too. Your skill alone is not enough to win as 3v3 modes require cooperation yet you can't complain either because the opposing side also runs on the luck system. Awareness is the primary skill to hone as it allows you to unconsciously cooperate with your randoms making your team more coordinated. One thing I noticed with PL is that most players above Gold are on the 20k mark, hence the conclusion that their brawlers are already in high levels and are fairly skilled. With this we can say that oir performance varies on selection and the available resource to each player to maximize the coordination of a makeshift team.

[@mxhin]

But how are bad randoms at *insert rank* that means they get 51> good randoms? 🤔

[@benjaminchua9866]

The only real issue here is you using no-hat Mortis

[@pokemonbg7674]

this coin thing is doesn't work with randoms

[@nclcam2]

ive had so many randoms throw games by losing 1 round smh or griefing and im diamond 2

[@kabirvohra2151]

As a a statistics student, I think this video is a fantastic representation of the use of statistics in game design and optimization. However, I think I have some improvements to to analytical process. Instead of looking at "skill" in a binary method as good or bad, use a metric system in between 0-1 and make it a probability, it should follow a normal distribution I think and maybe use it calculate. Also, take into account that you will often either have teammates in lesser ranks and team mates in higher ranks. This would impact the overall elo distribution. Also look at the new features added, called epic wins and close losses, they impact the rate at which elo is gained and can lead to premature high elo. Also, using experimental probability in the entirety of brawl stars solo power league is kinda sus as the number of events would make it reach the true average mean. This is from the central limit theorem.

[@zreplaysguides]

Interesting input. Um, about the binary good and bad teammates, I've left an explanation in the pinned comment.

[@clash-brawlstars6129]

I was at gold 3 and was touching diamond I had taken a screenshot but I had reached diamond 1 but it still showed gold 3 and now I’m stuck at gold 2-3 I just keep changing between them and then I get bored and stop playing power league

[@Razorrr_]

my bad random ratio is literally 100/0

[@fluffy2425]

I think there are other factors which may hinder your progression in your rank. Like the elo of your opponent and teammates. We all know that the amount of progress you get after each match is based on the rank of your opponents. There are many instances where the good randoms you find have much lower rank than you so you are in a lower rank lobby and let's say you win that match you get some elo but only a 'little'. Now let's say that the randoms you get are bad randoms and the opponent still have comparatively much lower rank than you so after you lost you will loss a 'lot' of elo. This creates the imbalance in solo power league sometimes even if you have more than 50% winrate you won't progress because there is no 'exact value' of how much you will win and how much you will lose after a game. I feel like there should be a fixed amount and not based on the rank of opponents because sometimes there are lowr ranks who are good and sometimes there are higher ranks that is bad.

[@gunnyisgoodboi4846]

I knew the amount of progress you got was wack.

[@eyallevin6302]

First of all there is not only "good" or "bad" it is a spectrum and also it is not necessarily 50/50 if they are "good" or "bad", the rate is different.

[@zreplaysguides]

refer pinned message.

[@suryatejag3821]

thank you i scored an A+in my maths exam

[@Hrishi1717]

Your videos are always osum 💕💕

[@jiazhenglim7188]

thing is im at diamond and i only get good randoms like once in 5 games, my teammates alwys pck franks with lv1, and the enemies get a super charger.

[@naracarinho]

I'm decently skilled in my book but I agree sometimes you get good and bad but sometimes you yourself are the the bad random this happens to me sometimes like my teammates aren't bad I am but I feel like the one that's trash about bad randoms the most common situation when you try to play with bad randoms is when they don't switch lanes this one isn't can be the reason you lose but maybe your teammates didn't notice with you or feed the enemy super like maybe an El primo in heist that just walks forward in hopes of punching that safe down

[@animeshpati5525]

Yea ive been trying to get into gold 1 but i have given up

[@monkeyconvoy3097]

I feel like games are not always 50/50 tho if you are a good enough player you can have a positive win rate, I just feel like you shouldn’t lose so much LP when you lose

[@geras4463]

Meh there are still a lot of factors to take into consideration