[Solo Leveling: Arise] - MANY players have been asking me this lately! P2W vs F2P TOPIC

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[@lionheart9797]

"My job as a content creator is to make content, my job as a human being is to look out for my fellow human being". What a protagonist quote ! Well said !

[@PayneBlade]

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[@kaijhe]

11:49 Its like Sung Jin Woo says, "the system uses me, I use the system

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[@racohyts3673]

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[@spy4307]

Huge respect for this video, you don't see content creators make videos like this often

[@rhaxx777]

Amazing vid thanks for looking out for us ❤️

[@lk-boi]

should i get cha hea A1 or alicia

[@chocodechips]

This is very helpful bro as a player who is planning to spend on this game. Love how you give us an idea on what we can achieve as f2p and p2w. More power to you man.

[@ImNothing746]

Thank you for thus content man I've d been planning to spent money in this game but i changed my mind thanks to you

[@samiurrahman.5459]

My opinion of you after this video is very high. You deserve all the good and achievements coming your way brother

[@epictetus4676]

This was really eye opening for me thanks ❤

[@Snacksssbaby]

Just subbed thanks for loving the community

[@PayneBlade]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Anurag-ct9zv]

but the question is, how does this affect lebron's legacy?

[@PayneBlade]

Lmao leave LeBron alone

[@vishnulachansin9023]

He wil NEVER EVER BE THE GOAT MJ FO LIFE 6-0

[@supersaiyanunbreaded6765]

LeBrons legacy is crying over everything and blowing China

[@Dom5S]

I seriously wasn't expecting this type of comment especially in this type of videos lol

[@miguelsorio999]

You in the wrong chat go to score app 😂

[@Acizzle76]

awesome video, as a new player to gacha games its great to have a creator like this spell it out

[@JOKER-xo1lg]

Well gotta admit your videos are fire 🔥 thx for the advice. I just subscribed 😊

[@Sincerity1993]

Love that you're talking about this very sensitive topic!

[@brancofreitas13]

I was just casualy watching you content but this video: RESPECT!

[@michaelh1565]

Hey Payne, thanks a lot for putting out this message. I had been burnt by gacha games before (spending a lot and finally burning out and looking back feeling like I've wasted a lot of money). So I could only imagine the value this message has for new players.

[@AlexRaxham]

Pure gold right here. Deserves a like from us players that you just saved. Both me and my boy just started playing SLA a few days ago and after seeing this video, we'll just spend a few bucks on it. I liked the monthly subscription of special summons for me and boyo as we are in no rush to anywhere 😅 Thanks, bud!

[@legacyclan8861]

Earned a sub just for ur personality mayne

[@saintfayde4438]

Biggest roadblock is gold. Everything is expensive for no damn reason other than trying to force you to buy packs and passes. It's no wonder they were so generous with the amount of pulls they give you. They WANT you to pull the units you want. Because if you have the unit you want, then you're definitely gonna want to build that unit, but CAN'T without spending. They blueball you by giving you what you want, but not being able to USE it.

[@GhostReporting888]

F2p = patience bro. You can upgrade everything in time. If you are in a rush, pay. Basic logic. No need to cry.

[@GladiarOfDestruction]

Honestly, I rather have that than a game being stingy AF with tickets. This is by far the most generous in how much tickets you can acquire for standard banner and even premium tickets gained from battle pass and packs

[@saintfayde4438]

@@GhostReporting888 I been playing gacha games completely F2P for the past 12+ years, I don't need you preaching to me how they work. I ain't rushed shit. Fact of the matter is this game has a serious resource and gating issue. An issue that for some reason is pretty common among Korean-made gacha games. They always make games that are nice to look at and fun to play, but muck it all up with the progression systems.

[@saintfayde4438]

@@GladiarOfDestruction I would argue that it balances itself out with how dogshit the rates are. Over 600 pulls and I only have 6 SSR. 1 SSR per 100+ pulls is pretty bad in modern gacha gaming. That's, at minimum, hitting hard pity every single time. I haven't seen pulls like this since Fate GO. The game is "generous", but is it really tho?

[@damemer9278]

@@saintfayde443880 is the pity dumbass

[@shanzarasif618]

I knew you were a good human being but dayum , god bless you fam , btw thanks again for the codes

[@manuelarango5692]

Thank you! I was thinking about spending some money, but I think I be getting the monthly pass good video🎉

[@TheNightBrocker]

u are a very good person

[@DarshithHegde]

you're an amazing guy Payne. Keep it up😄

[@thelastchoi6217]

Payne keepin it real as alwaysss

[@shobhrajmishra2615]

My respect for payne after this video 📈📈📈📈 now i gonna spam this in payne next live We should spam this to praise him😅😅

[@draven319]

@payne Your a great content creator. Your videos are always full of helpful advice. After watching this video though i have a huge amount of respect for you. Your care towards your fellow gamers regarding spending money on this ( or any other game ) is honest, empathetic and respectful. After Netmarbles handling of Marvel Future Revolution i wont spend any money on a Netmarble game. Ill play the games because they ARE good but i wont ever spend

[@tantran8518]

thanks Payne it's help a lot

[@tsunderetemari6472]

Tbh i just spend 17$ in this game just because i have fun, like the system who give 30% gold and xp just for chill in the early of the game like i want to do some error like : Up wrong item, overpush weapon ( thankfull i watch your vidéo for do not this error at the early game thanks for that Payne ! ) and just for skip a bit of xpcreep because i prefere to be powercreep and try try try and try to beat system with my skill i'm not god in the game but the challenge is so F fun to beat boss with under power ! Just thanks for everything you do for your community, protect and advice us vs the big big trap called gacha game its so important to repeat the game will not give you love, food and everything else when you spend a money on it, just maybe some hours and that all nothing else ! Love on you Mr.Payne

[@k_orcka]

what a great speech big respect to you for this reason i will follow you u deserve more

[@minamaher7440]

#Respect, thank you bro.

[@belalshaker3515]

Hey bro, love the content

[@kyle22686]

Not my first gatcha game but thank you for making this video for ppl who are new to them. Perspective is the key to having fun with these games.

[@danielkadiri2378]

I don’t play this game but great advice to your audience. That’s a sub in my book.

[@Hubert901]

Hey bro, i just wanted to give a quick heads up. There is a bug that lets you play side quest missions without the required chars. You go into the unit selection screen and from there open the manage teams window. Then you just take one hunter out and put him back in. Click confirm and you can play the stage with any Hunter you want. I just finished the hard mode side story "Another Raid" that way.

[@rasoser1249]

I'm not exactly a F2P, but also not a Whale. More like a Dolphin. I bought the bottom Row of the Pass and that one drop that gives daily stuff plus that box that can give you an SSR Weapon. I don't regret it, it's a Game I enjoy

[@azuzz09]

The thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lourdkevin]

I was about to spend some amount today... but you made me think about it twice. Big ups to you man. I guess I'll spend this money on food LMAO!

[@emmanuelliong6385]

thanks for this explanation, I'm f2p and stuck with igris haha.... But still enjoying it..

[@priyanshusingh6176]

man.. oh .. man you know how to say things-- full support buddy- like for real and here is one thing if I ever think of spending money in SLA I will make sure you will the one who I support appreciate you views and

[@MrTMan0071]

This is so refreshing to hear cos one side of me is to not spend and grind at it like how Sung Jin Woo would do, whilst the Beru in me is like, “My lord, a membership is within thy means. Enjoy yourself 😈 😂”. All in all, I’ll be patient and may get the membership in time. Thanks dude!

[@hansgroot4551]

Good advice

[@ErenYeager0607]

14 days in game and i got 7 SSR characters including A1 Cha And 4 Sung jin weapons including A2 Shadow , A2 Cha 's weapon and Jinchul's weapon If you are lucky like me you don't need to spend a single penny

[@kteashura4991]

Just the reroll really help a lot. Don't know it's luck or just a bugged reroll because it's really help when you pull later on

[@ErenYeager0607]

@@kteashura4991 my acc ain't reroll

[@DragonSlayer0p]

Bro I got 6 ssr hunters 3 ssr weapons(player),2 ssr hunter weapon in full f2p

[@sdy.deathcall9608]

Payne, do you have a guide on crafting weapons? Materials are hard to come by, who's weapon should we invest in?

[@oliculley7647]

i dont comment much but you might honestly be the nicest guy on youtube. appreciate the content bro. you earnt yourself a sub

[@PayneBlade]

I appreciate that! Thank you for the kind words!

[@chlove7145]

Yoo bro I'm new subscriber to you from India I been playing the game since the global release and I'm a mobile player and free 2 play ofcourse have to deal with many problems

[@chriscalderon9441]

I personally, as a f2p player, I like contributing to the game a it as long as I get something back. As a rule, I try to not spend more than I would on a regular game … either that or I do a monthly subscription (9 bucks tops ) if I really like it and that is about it.

[@AkiCloud]

I dont know why people want to rush the game😂 rn i pushed to chp 9 and stopped there to grind events and get waaay stronger so that when i start chp grind again it will be easy 🤷‍♀️

[@usamabinejaz4203]

@PayneBlade, Youre an amazing person. I loved this video. Youre.. just.. amazing. I loved what you said. And it will change my decisions.

[@DWposeidon24]

Wholesome content!

[@BrahimbtgrMonarch]

My first gacha and i'm having a lil bit of a hard time understanding stuff like dups and artifacts

[@GuilhermeAlves-px2mw]

for me the problem is the freakin gold ,everything needs gold . i wish lvl up some caracters for fun and test them by my self ... but its not possible .... them feel kind in stuck with only 3 characters(Seo,Emma and Cha).... i hope they change this

[@JerrySpringerl]

This. Gold is soooo bad right now and it's because they want to force you into buying the passes. It's honestly becoming a massive turn off for me

[@faeezy1750]

The problem is just the gold , and I hate it

[@Akash666999]

you can easily get upto 7+ fully maxed out as you keep playing.

[@contrivedmce]

idk how everyone is having issues with gold in this game i have easily spent a few hundred thousands of gold in this game just by upgrading everything and i get it back in just a couple of days

[@JerrySpringerl]

@@contrivedmce because it costs gold to upgrade EVERYTHING. I blew through 500k gold today in 5 minutes of upgrades.

[@hisham2k5]

Hey Payne, congrats on hitting 50k,but I have a question, I wanted a water type hunter so I saved up for Alicia around 16k essence stones and 15 draws, but today I just got seo jiwoo, should I invest in seo or wait for Alicia? I need the water type so I can fight derbeus.

[@victormgonzalez2677]

And that is why I like this channel he dont brag as a content creator as other do and his balance as it his job to he is thrust worthy, for p2w I just spend less than 200 dollars and I am happy with it don't have to spend so much to have fun

[@Johnithinuioian]

It's generally better to not spend.. Patience is worth cultivating..

[@guerakun]

You are a shining beacon by saying this by warning the peeps about the FOMO and how a Gacha game operate.

[@MFsicedaca]

I see you using Choi over Emma. Atm my Choi is lvl 1 and Emma is A1 lvl 51, should I invest in Choi? Is he more useful for me in the later fights?

[@ecilpsst0rmm804]

The main issue im currently having is the level. Im f2p but after chapter 15, i need 12 levels before i can push story again, or 2 before hard mode igris. Am i supposed to just grind daily my A.F. and Gates for like a month or am i missing ways for xp? Reverse mode only gives money, no xp too.

[@AngelHernandez-pl3hc]

FACTS!

[@samuelayemi323]

Its 4 a.m in the morning rn Still watching 😂

[@Yn.Geo239]

Im under 100$ in the game and honestly what you said is very true if u dont spend hella its kinda pointless im realizing

[@lk-boi]

should i get cha hea A1 or alicia

[@henrylam92]

@@lk-boi a1. the stacking is OP

[@overkilljames2010]

Got A5 Cha with around $80 spent. Not sure if that’s lucky or unlucky

[@PayneBlade]

Insanely lucky

[@overkilljames2010]

@@PayneBlade wow ok. Thought i spent too much for one unit 😭

[@user-catalystdragonic]

Bro i got grimoir and the scythe on my first ten draw so lucky

[@nameuser.2141]

Man the term “f2p” has changed so much from what it used to be and I think it was maybe around Genshin’s released when it happened. Before, “f2p” meant you get to play the game without your account FEELING SCUFFED if you don’t spend. You get a lot of in game and premium resources and you’re still pretty relative to average spenders, especially if the game was mainly pve. Even in pvp, while you obviously couldn’t compete with whales and rank in top %, you can rank decently and still get a pretty good amount of rewards. Nowadays f2p had been severely downgraded to mean simply being able to clear content with low tier units. That’s it. Is solo leveling f2p? Technically yes. But is it really? Let’s just say be prepared to be frustrated if you’re not at least willing to subscribe AND get the 2 monthly bundles. I have my main, which is p2w, and an f2p account and the difference is insane despite my f2p account being lucky in terms of pulls

[@Peter_ParkedCar]

I played genshin for like 2 days but after hearing all that they did it sounds like that game has had a huge negative impact on mobile games.

[@adriansiku1298]

I got all the top tier units in my account including seo a2, emma a1 and SM baek a1 plus cha with her weap being a3 so i can tell you're being extremely dramatic (im at 230k)

[@nameuser.2141]

@@adriansiku1298 ok then you're extremely lucky. You're acting like your account is average when it's clearly way above. My f2p account is nowhere near there and I've been playing since early access

[@ro7843]

the definition of F2P has been forced to change because most games make upgrading your account limitless to milk whales as much as possible letting them battle out for top spots with their wallets. In the past most games you could only be so strong and simply had to wait for new character releases or perfecting gear/artifacts.

[@Akash666999]

The Term has not changed . Being relative to p2progress is mostly just applicable for the PC MMOs. Whaling out a lot and being far ahead of f2p has always been the case for mobile gacha games, Its not genshin , genshin is just one that popularized these type of games. Mobile games always had plenty of mmo type games with extreme whaling gachas.

[@ragnarokmobile1226]

Haloo Payne, do we must kill all the stage boss in BoT (fr tier 1 to 5) to get BoT coin ?

[@christophsmaul5575]

Should i try to get cha to 3* or safe my crystals for the new Charakter?

[@healermobius]

True. Just be patient. Even for me, if I cannot finish chapters, I'll just farm gears, farm gates everyday and wait for better Artifacts to UP my power then finish the chapter then wait again 😅😂

[@Will.97464]

What should I buy on the game as a light spender

[@sanspapyrus1341]

Good night 😴

[@two3delta]

Right now I’m sitting around 4k essence stones with A1 cha on F2P and about to hit pity again but unsure if I should try and pull for another Cha or save for Alicia since I’m about to hit pity.

[@Cubxns]

I’m right around $100 and I have an A6 cha. I was lucky enough to have two double pulls of her

[@tigeraquino766]

This the realest shit I’ve ever seen on this game, you sure you not him?🔥

[@velation]

As someone for whom this is their first gacha (i came from the solo leveling manhwa) it blows my mind to hear that people have spent so much money on this and games like this. And also that you can spend so much and still be roadblocked! Knowing what kind of game this is I decided that I would never spend money on it. If I hit a roadblock I can't get past as f2p then I will simply quit. After all, isn't it better to quit as f2p than spend tens of thousands of dollars, run out of things to do, then quit the game anyway? Only this time you're down a house??

[@Xylaax]

im ftp, 28 days log in, currently level 59, 0 dupes in ssr hunters, 9 ssr hunters, (actually 10 cause of woo jinchul) but im ommitting him cause he is from logins, few ssr weapons, im enjoying all content so far except for battlefield of trials, power of destruction and reverse stage. Been playing this, 7ds grand cross and honkai star rail, yea it takes a little extra time to beat content, but to me it makes it more fun, I have a tendancy to rush games then I get bored, but this game so far, even though right now im just doing dailies and farming artifacts, I still find it really fun, I love the fast paced action combat, makes me think of dmc and I miss playing games like that

[@akari5141]

the only thing that i would request to SLA DEV is to put a reset button on the the character, so that i will get back the resource that i spend on the wrong character, well everyone make a mistake but the cost it to big in this game, expecially the GOLD, because it hard to get and it been used in everything.

[@WebJ-ts3rm]

If you do plan to buy, just buy the monthly packs, and grind it out. Ive purchased both, been playing for 6 days, and currently at level 38, pretty satisfied.

[@YenyenYumpi]

Sometimes it is not because one wants to spend money to expedite the progress rather may stem from collecting the hype/fav characters/equipment. And from a collector's mindset, the rates sure are frustratingly low.

[@baris9031]

im currently totally struggling against any blue spirit golem boss. even with me being 30k over the recommended power, i cant get past his shields. everytime i get his shields low, he replenishes it back and cant get to his hp. is there a gimmick i didnt see yet?

[@poletcarlos5142]

Where can we get more traces of shadow? Been blocked by this quest to promote a shadow whereas I only unlocked 3 so I chose Iron over this quest requirement.

[@lk-boi]

should i get cha hea A1 or alicia

[@kanekitg9396]

I have a question, is it possible to change server? Or is there any chance that this will be possible in the future (free or paid )? My friend and i downloaded the game in the same day, but we are on different servers and i really want to know if we can do something about it

[@kuronekonyan]

other streamers: PULL FOR THIS CHARACTER NOW! SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY AND MAX HER! #sponsored payne: im looking out for my boys I care about you guys dont waste your money on pixels, payne out respect. keeping it real as always.

[@blitzgasher9390]

I feel like they need to add a way to get more essence stones as a f2p. 4275 in a month from dailies and weekly just doesn’t feel like enough, I get there also the 5 from talking to people and all that. But once you done the story it feels like it slows down so much, guess that’s just the predatory gacha system tho isn’t.

[@s7r49]

They seem to have a lot of freebies which is great. I have no problem with gotchyas and pay content. I only wish 2 things. 1 luck did not affect things much. you mostly earn the strength you gain. . 2 pay content did not affect balance. there are so many creative ways to add pay content that people will want to buy that arent just duping your weapon stronger or pulling your character dupers stronger. it just messes with the balance kind of in the way you're implying. you want to collect everything. you either spend no money and struggle, you spend some money and wish you could be a completist, or you spend a bunch and you're bored. the money structure actually degrades from the game. that said i like the game. im trying to keep myself in the buying a couple things and earning the rest camp. i hope they keep it fun and i dont get too frustrated. its feen fun so far.

[@gurkantopdemir8852]

Hey Payne i cant open the game. Its always saying that close the 3rd part app but even i closed everything i cant enter the game. I have seen that some ppl also having this problem. Do you have any information about it?

[@praveenmurthy2668]

Guys I have a question, what is the berserk and how to inflict this in boss fights?

[@AkiCloud]

Im not getting much sr hunters and sr hunter weapons 😤 even after 320 pulls

[@JerrySpringerl]

Do multis?

[@iam.mystic]

They really should increase the keys in instance and encore dungeons. 3 or 4x at once would be great. These modes and the game just feels like a hassle now.

[@realest6644]

💯

[@Uchiha201]

How do you get black hole skill

[@marlonbarrett9986]

Chapter 14 last misson how do you win it

[@aldozzz7321]

I'm f2p but sometimes I bought cheap pack from the game I enjoy played. My purpose is to help the game itself even though only small amount.

[@erebor769]

Payne got any idea what's the best choice after the nerfs in wuthering?

[@PayneBlade]

Still verina for sure but I'm going to go for calcharo still

[@damemer9278]

Can someone please help me i cant claim the 3rd day reward for the 20 mil download thingy

[@alexchal7814]

i;ve spent around 250 euro and i stuck at 54 level cant progress much on normal because i have to hit 63 lvl and at hard and reverse because bosses are too strong to get them around 20-40%.also at hard we stuck at the same chapter

[@adityamittal843]

Man i just need 24 craft items for cha sword of light! As f2p i don't think i can get it . Any tips

[@mancrocker]

I think, in all gachas the difference between f2p and p2w should be like this: all players take all characters/weapons e.t.c. but p2w take a lot bigger. In SLA i still dont have 4 SSR characters (without SEO sad at cerber) and take in gacha 2 SSR weapons (plum sword and thetis book). P.S. all take today benefits for 20kk downloads? I have nothing!

[@Skarrrr_]

Hello Payne, I know that your voice is heard and your opinion on this game matters to the community and the devs. Could you please do a video about potential QoL changes we need ? I mostly think about the ability to sweep Encore and Instance missions for free when you already 3 star'd the stage (other games do that), this would save so much time from player because (imo) the artifact grind is very boring, especially when you don't have the x4 p2w option. If I buy keys daily from exchange shop I have to do Instance Dungeon 4 times and Encore Dungeon 4 times (DAILY), this is redundant and unnecessary

[@reececrossfield350]

Is the battle pass worth the price? Because thats the only thing that tempts me.

[@PayneBlade]

The battle pass is if you can afford it yes but u need to buy both versions

[@vishnulachansin9023]

The most ive spend in this game is 20$ hahaha im a small guppy compared to most of the animals in this sea

[@Lucifshin]

Can F2P players get A10 in the future

[@theespecificocean]

That thumbnail is more like F2P if your account had dev mode enabled lol