I think you're grossly underestimating the Grimoire's A5. Think of a scenario where you use the Grimoire skill first, then you immediately use your ult and for example West Wind's skill (ideally all of it after a Shadow Step). Both of those will get buffed by 50% and then you'll deal the extra 10% of that combined damage on top of it. So all in all, A5 Grimoire should be the best burst damage weapon in the game by a long shot (unless some weapon can beat that).
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
Not grossly underestimating it at all. I use it more than most other weapons. Just giving u guys the test results
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade Well I tried to explain why Skadi's A5 can't possibly beat Grimoire's A5. Not the weapon as a whole, just that advancement.
@Valentair5 ай бұрын
@@Sukenus While I agree with your point, the scenario that you stated is pretty hard to execute for the majority of players of the game. Many players of the game are not hardcore games. They are average players that won't be able to use the grimoire to its full potential, let alone pull it to A5. Case in point: the buff in Cha; why would they buff an already broken unit? Because they got the data from the majority of people and they are struggling with content even with Cha. Skadi of course also has the luck component of pulling it. But Skadi itself seems to be easier to use and would be so for a majority of the people. As such, while the grimoire may be in certain cases superior, our guy Payne is creating content for a majority of the people. Of course his data talks, but he should also be presenting things that are realistic and not idealistic to the average Joe, which is exactly what he did.
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
@@Valentair Your point is fair, but since we're talking about A5 from the start, it can't apply to the majority anyway. And I believe our boy Payne is making content for any player, be it casual, hardcore, f2p or whale.
@godxvbtff19035 ай бұрын
Payne amazing video by the way🤘🏻🎉
@funlife43715 ай бұрын
Another video from the GOAT 🐐
@luiseduardomestreangelone80405 ай бұрын
I love this game for the fact that you have to build dif teams and strategies including weapons, skills, hunters etc. Either if pure dmg of breaker needed As time keeps going in the game more "broken" stuff will come out its normal Tbh i changed grimoire for plum sword and moonshadow combo Feels so good even tho only have plum sword A1
@ladyjeit13805 ай бұрын
that combo is so overrated, damage is low :/
@mrcringe82865 ай бұрын
@@ladyjeit1380it only works with moonshadow A1 without that that weapon isn’t that good but the plum sword is stable for the amount of grit damage that it provides you and at A3 it becomes a lot stronger
@AVS695 ай бұрын
Shadow step + grimore freeze+shadow monarch domain blessing + jinho ult you can cast all of the effect in just 2.5 sec and it destroys the anime if your poer is in white and you have elemental advantage.
@AVS695 ай бұрын
Enemy*😭
@Selene05135 ай бұрын
and it goes pew pew~ 😂
@MissxLariz5 ай бұрын
0:10 For repeat
@Starry-kun5 ай бұрын
@@MissxLariz😂
@sandythamtono20815 ай бұрын
The skadi deal 100% mod or 500%(A5) when it activate And it deals 50% mod dmg with a cooldown of 0.5 sec for 7 second. So if you attack inside the domain for every time cooldwon is up you will deal like 600% modifier attack. So it pretty much deal 700% more modifier to the enemy unless A5. Which is 1200% which is less if you dont spam rapid attack during it But its not like grimoire where it just straight buffs the attack by multiplying the modifier of the atack you do while dealing 10% of all of it during freeze So grimoire has a potential to do more damage when you do a lot of dmg during the freezing. With all the buffs on it which is 24% A1 and 20% A3 and the 20% from the A5 Just with one 2000% modifier hit during grimoire effect will certainly do more damage than skadi. Not to mention if you ult during it on top of it Also you dont have to bring a weapon you can bring SJW elemental skill
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
I did the testing with a buddies account and the a5 hit way hard with skadi due to high atk stat because it's based off jinwoos overall atk. The grimoires 50% more dmg didn't do more when using it and another weapon and that's most likely due to the fact that skadi also adds Def pen and atk up stacks. It may all make sense on paper but it translates different in game
@sandythamtono20815 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade but considering SJW might be able to do 2 ultimate during a big fight and how shadow can also be used twice during ult and break that might bridge the gap quite a bit using the 20% total dmg reflect with the book
@thelastchoi62175 ай бұрын
Skadioooooshhhh🎉
@Melly2times5 ай бұрын
I got lucky i received the skati on my second pull it was 20/80 draw when i got it lol
@hakaiLF5 ай бұрын
payne= the goat of content creation
@bobs15665 ай бұрын
YOH PAYNE DO A SHOWCASE WITH MOON N SKADI COMBO SEEMS GODLIKE
@ryanbeamer40225 ай бұрын
It is I have both and they work amazing together but the real combo is the skadi and the plum sword. The plum sword is so OP I have it at lvl 40 and it does almost the same damage as the skadi I have at lvl 60
@mrcringe82865 ай бұрын
@@ryanbeamer4022you seem new the weapon level doesn’t matter your attack stats is the most important so let’s say you have 10k attack then your skadi and plum will deal the seam damage ofc levelling both of them will increase attack which means more damage but you can use a low level weapon with a high level but both will deal the same damage
@CaptainMeow245 ай бұрын
I just got 2 copies of skadi and i looked at KZbin if it is good or not well i guess it's good so I'll be using it for now
@JiyuuNK5 ай бұрын
I personally prefer grimoire than skadi at A0 and or A1. And ofc, use both to rocking water BRRRTTTT
@Agent_Alpha_SLV5 ай бұрын
The elemental weakness is a bit weird. Same as the Weakness Detection blessing stone, i saw a really good speedrunner (TyPal) said that that rune works on every boss that has an elemental weakness, and you don't have to use that element to get the bonus dmg. You just get it automatically regardlesd of which weapon u use. So can u do some testing on this? Thanks!
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
I asked him and he said enemy has to have elemental weakness so he isn't sure why that info was misheard
@Abid_Al_Mahmud5 ай бұрын
As a f2p player, it's almost impossible to have A5 with any weopons, especially SSR. I think you should also do a separate video on Jinwoo's weopons with no dupes cause most f2p players ( including myself ) doesn't have dupes for Jinwoo's weapons. Btw love your videos❤
@ladyjeit13805 ай бұрын
use sr bow,orb and sniper if you have them, if enough advencements they destroy every ssr weapon with 0 and even 1 dupes
@Starry-kun5 ай бұрын
Yeah. I can only go to A1 so far. Scythe is A2 cuz of free copies
@Starry-kun5 ай бұрын
@@ladyjeit1380 west wind is not easy to get for me. Yes I have bow A5 and orb A4. I don't like bow weapons personally 🥲. So I go with huntsman A1😅
@ladyjeit13805 ай бұрын
@@Starry-kun well is not about liking them, its about how strong they are XD but if you jsut want to chill then use what you enjoy ofc
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
The weapon I showed was a0 comparing to an a5. It's not easy on my f2p since I don't have either weapon so I can't make showcases if I don't have them
@NoctisStrife885 ай бұрын
Yes the video I need
@Hawkinson885 ай бұрын
I'm over here A0, thinking I hit the jack pot just getting an SSR weapon every now and again.
@kedu36455 ай бұрын
hey can u make alicia build video, would love it :)!
@M4csdtn5 ай бұрын
Grimoires biggest problem is how slow it is to use the skill. On harder stages the bosses disrupt it so quickly unless you shadow step
@Starry-kun5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Also with the monkeys. They're throwing fruits every time you stand for a few seconds.
@Yoyo-eo3nw5 ай бұрын
Nah its not hard
@janedborcelis42995 ай бұрын
hello payne! any advice for now since hunter cha cant be obtained in rate up draw, should I use other ssr hunter with more advancement level or nah? F2P here
@ninadmesta36045 ай бұрын
Use other SSR hunters with advancement they are good for story clearing but near to endgame try to use strongest char that you own
@janedborcelis42995 ай бұрын
@@ninadmesta3604 only got 4 or 5 ssr and no ice or fire attri sad
@Ligma-B5 ай бұрын
Hey Payne I am still stuck can you help me what buff is that were arrows come from the characters and tell me how can I get it ????????????
@sK-jx1ky5 ай бұрын
What arrows??
@zer04675 ай бұрын
is there any need to keep sr weapons if i already have 2 ssr weapons of the same element? west wind and orb of avarice are exceptions but like for dark or water now.
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
I would because they constantly buff stuff
@Kaspur10875 ай бұрын
Been following for a short bit .. do your supporters get rewards/gifts for supporting you on the content creator program?
@Uchiha2015 ай бұрын
Netmarble shafted me on my rate up
@MissxLariz5 ай бұрын
With flower plum sword is scythe or skadi a better combination?
@PRIME__YT5 ай бұрын
Love from India ❤❤❤❤ keep going
@AlphaMaster12F5 ай бұрын
Great doing pane.. A Pakistani fan here 🇵🇰❤
@ninadmesta36045 ай бұрын
@PAYNEBLADE in the f2p bosses guide can you include the chp 17 and 18 final bosses Even if you have not cleared it on f2p account you can give tips and tricks through the p2w account one and I don't have black skill so any alternate for that will be helpful
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
hey bro chapter 18 boss i have a video on already (last 2 stages) i'll see if I can add it for the compilation when I get a chance to make it
@immortalgaming18995 ай бұрын
Bro make a guide on how to defeat igris in instance dungeon @@PayneBlade
@G3rmanhenry5 ай бұрын
@@immortalgaming1899he already made multiple videos how to defeat Igris including instance dungeons
@hlopar31383 ай бұрын
Do those 2 work rly well together ? The grimoar and skadi. Did someone test them on floor 50 ?
@ricardolouro95455 ай бұрын
@Payneblade i ve been meaning to ask. i tried a lot to find where to get that skin for the main character but i couldnt find where do we get it. Where was it and can we still get it?
@shieldayush5 ай бұрын
Get to level 55 beat igris in hard mode and reach 60k power for sung jinwoo and you'll get it
@Blackshadowknight5245 ай бұрын
"Actually I'm a sword and scythe main user not a rifle and gun main user since this game is an mmorpg i used swords rather than guns"............🙂🙂😊😊
@kevindmello13235 ай бұрын
Hey payne, i have a lot of gems i did not use, do you think it is good to invest them into draws? Or use them more to get keys for instance dungeons etc to get artifacts?
@G3rmanhenry5 ай бұрын
Stick to draws especially when there is an event happening like chae and alicia . You can exchange keys w mana crystals as well
@roronoamoji27945 ай бұрын
Those gem waves are so hard to
@johnpatricklariosaayson67925 ай бұрын
I got jinwoos dual dagger SSR but it's not in the draws
@Xylaax5 ай бұрын
is their like a way to farm weapon exp? I have a handful of decent weapons for jinwoo but can't level any of them cause im out of potions
@Yoyo-eo3nw5 ай бұрын
Nope..you need to keep playing everyday,do all the event/dailies and you probably able to max out a weapon in couple of weeks .. so choose wisely
@Baye19805 ай бұрын
So this is why you left FFEC in the dust lol. It’s all good I have other Ever Crisis content creators that I follow. You’re fully invested in this game so I get it. Have fun and I’ll see you if or when you come back!
@dreplummer51185 ай бұрын
Just keeping it a buck. The comparisons of the a5's didn't seem fair lol. 50% is crazy.... I think book still has strongest skill pistols better to basic attack and skill last.
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
Oh ya they are both amazing weapons. Put them together u get a crazy combo that synergizes perfectly. Book is still top tier
@Presi225 ай бұрын
Hey Guys, do you also feel that we get higher Points for the Dragon fight? Since yesterday, the new patch, the number increased for sure about 20% +-. Reached on Fire~190M yesterday and today 210M,. Way more. Water was my best fight and 2days ago i had around 160M. Maybe they nerfed Dragon and i did´t saw it on patch notes. Would like to hear your opinion. Also Payne did, as he said way more, and i doubt it´s from Vulcan buff^^
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
Well, they buffed all the SSR hunters. That's prolly your answer.
@werewolfyt62655 ай бұрын
is skadi better than plum flower? im new and i have both. should i use westwind + one of the 2 or both ssr?
@rahul_106105 ай бұрын
If you wanna pair up westwind. Go for plum
@werewolfyt62655 ай бұрын
@@rahul_10610 ohh ok thx! what other ssr should i be trying to get? im working on alicias rn
@mz19295 ай бұрын
wow i just pulled Alicia's weapon from the vending machine. i dont even want her.... is this weapon good on anyone else?
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
You can use it as a stat stick, but it's not really worth leveling if you're not gonna get Alicia.
@sdy.deathcall96085 ай бұрын
Lucky u. I main her, but no luck..
@carminuch60345 ай бұрын
Is it more worth to craft Cha’s hunter exclusive weapon to get it to a2 or to craft Seo’s weapon to unlock it?
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
Seo, and prolly the A1 for as well.
@abundanceanako17515 ай бұрын
They should buff huntsman fr
@JS-mt7cr5 ай бұрын
Grimore solo's and slaps 🔥🔥🔥
@sajanbaidhya97915 ай бұрын
Can you suggest me a team from. Cha ,sae , Lee bora, min , baek normal , choi , hang, .
@Girgirgurgur5 ай бұрын
Cha Seo/baek and min you're good
@Sukenus5 ай бұрын
Cha+Seo+Min is the best from those options for most content.
@bryandee29925 ай бұрын
@Payneblade do you know anything about this? is this bug or just has some formula for computing team total power. I reported this on netmarble because a lot of players are thinking that this is bug. can you please help us with the bug fix of team total power?. it seems there's a lot of mistakes regarding that matter where I usually have 300k TTP yet I ended up having less. pls fix this. It's not enjoyable to play games with bugs.
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
when using jinwoo, ur hunters give 66% of their total power and now add gems and armory to it. it's accurate
@bryandee29925 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade oh thats the calculations of it?. I will try
@juanix99485 ай бұрын
just because i wanna be a dumbass, i'm gonna call this weapon the skibidi pistol 💀
@TiggZ_5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@marcelfab75515 ай бұрын
Lets talk about the real issue! Cerb is balanced for Jinwho witch is why it's so hard to get that 85 sec kill even after overpowering it and over leveling.
@Yoyo-eo3nw5 ай бұрын
Useless issue
@liz48845 ай бұрын
skill issue indeed, I got that 85s achievement before Cha I think
@Crimsonvortexmax5 ай бұрын
damn third to comment new personal best
@saintswar19995 ай бұрын
Damn it man I got skadi at 65, instead of plum, bora, dongsoo, Fk u net marble
@law40425 ай бұрын
i also got moonshadow at around 70 when i didnt even put it on my rate up
@RishizzZZzz5 ай бұрын
Feel u bro I got jin chul, the wind SSR weapon and lim After all of this i finally got plum sword 😁
@ilyes55605 ай бұрын
HI
@juuyon22085 ай бұрын
is skadi can be paired w/ moonshadow
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
Yes
@xegon1015 ай бұрын
#GrimoireSupremacy
@SuhasDoesStuff5 ай бұрын
3 hours late pew pew :)
@mz19295 ай бұрын
Prydwn says its not as good as Book
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
prydwen are just players like myself lol. They can have their opinions as well
@j.hospedales5 ай бұрын
350 views in 11 minutes bro fell off
@tb-_-trell97375 ай бұрын
What😂😂😂
@xegon1015 ай бұрын
Bot comment
@Wakazavm5 ай бұрын
This comments is TOO funny
@ladyjeit13805 ай бұрын
I think if you want to do a real comparison you have to say everything Example, on "power of destruction" with grimoire you can attack both claws with the skill, and you have 3 hunters attacking with you so 10% of all that damage you gonna do on 4s is a huge amount that i highly doubt you gonna get with skadi
@PayneBlade5 ай бұрын
One game mode and how u use the weapon isn't going to dictate overall usage tbh. Overall skadi does more in all other content
@ladyjeit13805 ай бұрын
@@PayneBlade i said only one example, can talk about lot of things and i don't need to test(and i can't get the skadi becasue i have no money), you can test everything and give us the exact information, not doing it so well, just read the comments