SOLVED:Dillon 650 powder spill fix for 9mm

[@jimblackbird5678]

Great video, I have that same problem and I just drag my finger on the plate to keep it from snapping into place. Thank you!

[@FirearmTutorials]

I've since fixed that, but it did work fine that way. Thanks for watching.

[@danielswartz6818]

I replaced both the ball bearing and a softer spring, and it did help a lot, but did not alleviate the issue. I noticed that the case feader slams the empty case into the plate. It does show sharply this also causes powder spillage. Now, if it does not do so, then the empty case will not fit cleanly into the resizing die. To solve this issue what I have done and works 100% of the time is to grab a hold of the charged cartridge case as it rotates with a bullet between my thumb and my forefinger, ready to insert it into the case. I then, with the rest of my fingers, grab a hold of the charge case, and use the pressure from my left hand to slow down the rotation of the plate so that it does not stop abruptly, but eases into its station. Therefore, there is no sharp instantaneous stoppage of the rotating plate. What then happens is that your left hand and fingers becomes a break for slowing down the rotating disc acid comes to a stop. Doing this will keep the disc from a sudden stop if you use your left hand as the break. No problems. Just reload it 1000 9 mm and did not have one grain of powder spill. It does slow down production a little bit, but you still save time and having to disassemble the plate to clean up the spent powder.

[@LYLEWOLD]

I'm looking at getting into reloading (when I can find some powder), and I'm still trying to find the balance between precision and convenience. videos like this help a lot. thank you for taking the time to make this.

[@FirearmTutorials]

Thanks for watching. Yea, powder has been scarce for about 2 years now. The rifle powder is out there, pistol powder is still extinct.

[@mikewarren7855]

Lyle W Dillon square deal b is a nice one to start with.

[@markrichardson239]

Nice job on the demo Video! I am really pleased it worked as well for you as it did for me. My headaches are pretty much history. BUT... I do have some creature comforts in the works to go along with this. Coming to a mailbox near you soon. Thanks, Mark

[@michael84003]

After attempting several soutions, I just use my finger (while I place the bullet) to stop that snap--evaluation one step in the process is a little shortsited, unless you are going to just fill the cases with powder. There is a video out there showing the full technique. I did not but my spring.

[@lancmac]

Go to ACE Hardware and look through the spring assortment. Pick up a couple softer springs.. at 25 cents each it makes a cheep fix.

[@daleswanson1784]

Good work, just watch to insure the shell plate rotates enough and not too much as time goes along to prevent alignment issues. I had the same issue with both a Dillon SDB and the 650. The 550 of course is manual indexing giving you control. (A press that keeps the shell plate, shell holder stationary and rotates the die head/holder eliminates that problem.)

[@frankw7266]

I've been running a 650 for almost 25 years with the stock detent ball & spring, and have never have powder spill issues. To put it in driving terms, the loose nut is the one behind the wheel... if you're getting spilled powder, you're slamming the handle too hard on the upstroke, causing the cases to jar around. You can still go fast and be very smooth with this machine.

[@incoldblooderz]

have you the same problem with powder funnel sticky. Are you resolv this problem?

[@frankmolino5458]

How many coils did you end up cutting off the spring ? Can you measure the spring height with your calipers so we can get some idea of how much to remove. Great video and thanks for taking the time.

[@nMmMmNm]

replace the standard 9.5mm ball bearing with a 9mm ball bearing and you don't need to clip a spring. McMaster Carr has a two-pack on the 9mm.

[@moyashimon808]

nice video tip!! what size and where can i purchase that ball barring?

[@billsmith147]

I just ran a 1000 rounds of 9MM 115 FMJ with no appreciable powder issue and I have not cut the spring or used a plastic ball bearing. I use a low volume powder Hodgdon Tite Group. I love Unique and use it for larger cases 45ACP but the Tite Group is my powder of choice for 9MM

[@rogerolsson7303]

A bunch of guys at my club has the XL 650 and they say the issue is now resolved by Dillon. Havent assembled my machine yet but I hope they are right.

[@SM-cg2dc]

So won’t that cause problems with it indexing consistently?

[@G56AG]

When trying to cut a spring like that, or any hard wire, the closer the wire is to the hinge on the cutters the better and easier they will work, Cutting action is poor out towards the end of the jaws, as you experienced with your first cut, you have less leverage and more flex in the jaws of the cutter.

[@FirearmTutorials]

Thanks for the advice. That makes sense.

[@nicolebaker5193]

should it need to tide down from on the shaft?

[@Sagaris380]

Is this still an issue on the new presses? I JUST ordered one.

[@HuskyKMA]

Any wear issues on the plastic ball bearing?

[@FirearmTutorials]

A tiny bit, but I've loaded about 20,000 since and it's still doing well. No major wear.

[@HuskyKMA]

FirearmTutorials .com Have you tried it with just the stock detent and the cut spring?

[@scooterinvegas1]

The safety rod coming down from the powder drop is backward. If its working like that, guess you could leave it.

[@BrianMDPhD]

scooterinvegas1 Haha I knew I wasn't the only one to notice it!

[@Ouwkackemann]

It would be important to know, how much you did cut off.

[@FirearmTutorials]

Start with half a coil and test it.

[@Ouwkackemann]

Thanks man.

[@rpq1968]

works great.

[@arthurchan2115]

Will this also work a new super 1050 ?

[@FirearmTutorials]

+Tuur Thuurio Not sure. The 1050 is a lot different so you may not even need to do this.

[@Hallzyone]

Looks good except the shell plate is too loose. It should have close to zero wobble but still turn freely.

[@fredeicke8890]

Look how the shell plate wobbles. VERY FIRST ISSUE!

[@johnarcher8530]

For you people thinking about cutting those springs, make sure you are wearing a pair of safety glasses.

[@samp1394]

OR just point it toward your wife?

[@minervius]

I am stunned about how many ppl need advice or how many ppl feel that others may need advice about how to use scissors type tools.

[@markmeyer6137]

minervius They are called Dikes or Diagonal Cutters. Just saying.

[@mdhillbilly1]

love seeing it load 9mm

[@mikewarren7855]

why not just call dillon and tell them its not working?

[@samp1394]

I haven't loaded any 9mm yet but if I have trouble that is what I will do. This machine cost to much money for that kind of trouble.

[@DimaProk]

Well the problem is pretty universal not just with this machine but I am actually pretty excited that there is fix with Dillon now I have to find if there is solution for my Hornady, otherwise I'll be replacing with Dillon. P.S. Once you experience progressive you'll never go back to single stage loading.

[@markmeyer6137]

Dillon will tell you to cut the spring. I ordered a new spring, ball and bearing kit on eBay that solves this same problem.

[@markrichardson239]

Hey, Mark here. I have some more stuff for you to check out. Drop a line! Mark

[@alberthodge631]

why would dillion just ignore this.....?????

[@markrichardson239]

Thank you very much for the demo! I now stick and sell the perfect spring. It will take all the bad stuff away. No use crying over spilt powder. Amazon and fleabay. Thanks again, Mark

[@markrichardson239]

Stock and sell... Not much of a wizard on the keyboard...

[@markrichardson239]

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[@GusShootsGuns]

My Hornady AP lock and load does that with cases that are almost full, I just hold my finger on the case as it rotates into position, easy to do